Ive been trying. I do drillss of the c major scale and f# pentatonic scale and i think its working a bit (I think this is called true pitch tho)

i feel like the color analogy could be enhanced by saying that you would know the exact hex code of that color, even mixes of color. And the same for pitch perfection, you can hear the distinction even in mixes of notes

I honestly don’t know for those who have not recieved any kind of musical training and/or exposure. For me, I had been exposed to classical music before I had even left my mom’s womb and on top of that, I went to a preschool where the classrooms had the names of Mozart and Beethoven and we were all exposed to certain musical instruments. Where my perfect pitch came out was when I took piano lessons wherein I became familiar with the concept of notes and simple chords like C Major or G Minor. I guess my prior exposure helped the perfect pitch to come out, and my discovery of TwosetViolin lit up the boiler that would fuel my love for classical music. Idrk how others can gain perfect pitch, but I guess if there was enough exposure, then I gues you’d be able to train your ear.

You should see sam leak's video on perfect pitch, maybe we will have more information about his research on it soon 😉

As a voice teacher and piano teacher, and the parent of a son with perfect pitch, my answer is the same as yours -- no. You cannot learn perfect pitch. However, my wife has a skill that can be learned -- she is a vocalist and voice teacher and she has what I call "perfect pitch recall" -- she can hear a song and remember the key that it should be in perfectly. That pitch recall can be trained and works just like you demonstrated. I can see how matching pitch recall with music theory allows you to name notes by hearing them with no context. Essentially, you create the context from your memory.

This makes me question if it is akin to having more rods and cones as CC says, or just having more sensitive or developed ears. It could be similar to language fluency where it may be possible to learn as an adult but would take an exponential amount more of effort comparitively.

​@@Ryan-mw1ry This has nothing to do with rods and cones nor hearing sensitivity. The colour example is kinda meh. It's better to think of perfect pitch of having an exact frequency table and the brain has connections allowing direct translation of sound to a medium that can be compared to the table. Non-perfect pitch people don't have this 'connection' and if such a table exists, there's no mechanism to interpret sound in that fashion. @Richard I highly doubt Phychologist's work. It's likely a zero percent success rate and he just thinks what he did worked when it didn't. It's also possible his patients already had perfect pitch and they just didn't know it (tonal-languages contain a higher rate of people with perfect pitch). Most classical musicians/keyboardists likely had perfect pitch. Not really anything new. Mozart literally transcribed a Bach keyboard work note for note and put his own name on it. Probably by accident without realizing it. "Adults could get good at identifying notes but never fully developed perfect pitch" This sentence implies that perfect pitch can be developed but it cannot. Either you have it by five months old-ish. Or you don't, or didn't know you had it. The fascination with perfect pitch is silly. It's more bad than it is good. A couple years of practice can get a person very sufficient with aural skills. Then you don't get upset when people play out of tune (Well, not as much at least). And without perfect pitch, you don't begin losing it at around fifty. It's more of a curse than a gift.

@@asliceofjackie91 pp can only be found in those that contain the genetic marker. This isn't proper science. "We have no clue how our variables are linked but if we do x, y, and z then result happens but we can't explain why or how it's not circumstancial." Plus I can't read the article when you didn't mention the profs name or multiple since you claim this study is done everywhere. I swear, if these articles consist of some dude pressing A and saying A then find the same to a bunch of notes I'm never going to pay attention to this is unacademic crazy nonsense again. Plus this sort of study is not ethical by nature. Forcing children to rewire their brain for a feature that is more curse than benefit.

​@@asliceofjackie91 Deutsch's research is almost certainly outdated at this point. I question whether you even read the article as what it argues is completely different from what you're arguing. That aside, there's multiple issues with the research that don't account for outside variables. They mention Brady in a wishy washy manner. Either he had PP as a child or even today he still doesn't have it. They claim he scored 65% on a test. With practice, I could score much higher with some room for guess work. They showed a shortened PP test example that any trained musician could get 100% on with some margin for luck, depending on whether the examiner is paying attention to if the person hums their first note to receive a reference. The one that really gets me, is listening to tonal-languages and concluding they must have perfect pitch without accounting for natural speech patterns. The vocal cords have natural positions. But again, they weren't really proving that seven or five year olds have perfect pitch. They were attempting to prove that tonal languages use some form of perfect pitch which they achieved with blatant errors in their methodology. Another egregious assumption is that when someone says "I have perfect pitch" they believe them. How can you believe someone that knows nothing about what they're talking about, when you yourself don't even understand what perfect pitch is. It's a foundational error which means any further research based on that will collapse along with it. Students in Asian countries are more likely to lie about possessing PP as their cultural system is all about reputation. Deutsch also mentions that people who learn a second language after they are an adult can't pronounce the language right. This is due to people not comprehending how the mouth alters syllables/vowels. It has nothing to do with age. If no one tells you that the German (iirc) T/D sound is farther back in the mouth instead of directly under the teeth like English speakers do, how the f is anyone supposed to figure that out on their own? Especially when most Germans themselves wouldn't realize the difference. I'm a terrible mono-linguist. But with practice I could speak German and sound like a native speaker once I learn proper speech patterns. And even that is a silly claim in the sense that there really is no standard to speaking German. A poorly written article using 'murica's archaic spelling system. It discusses topics all over the place with a misapplied methodology when it is on-topic. The article is only good for what it is actually arguing; relation between tonal-language and PP. The notion that the article was ever arguing that seven year olds 'aquired' (not the correct use of that word either) perfect pitch is just wrong. And it's not supported by evidence in the article. There's a reason in university they teach you to quote evidence and then write a convincing argument regarding what the evidence means. If you blindly believe an article you aren't really reading the article. New Musicology beginning in the 90s switched from "I tell you what to believe (see "Baroque" by Palisca in The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians as an example) to we provide the evidence and clear argument of why you should believe my argument.

@@asliceofjackie91 Rick Beato says that PP only developed in the beginning months of being born and only in people with the right genetics, he even told you *which* genetic trait. He's completely opposite to your (and the article in question) loosy goosy arguments that anyone can learn pp as long as they're below the age of seven-ish. All of which is not supported by actual evidence. Again, facts, evidence, and convincing argument over odd idealisms.

But I still can't help but feel having a perfect pitch is such a major help to any musician. As a beginner musician without perfect pitch myself, I felt disappointed that I don't have perfect pitch since it's so hard for me to distinguish notes without any reference point. I feel like if I were to have a perfect pitch, it'll be way much easier for me to learn music rather than not having one.

@@asyaryraihan not true at all. having absolute pitch, does indeed help you in the long run of your musical journey but it doesn’t help you learn music better, or be better at music (whatever it means). the only true skill that matters is relative pitch, work hard on your ears and when ur relative pitch gets to a point where you can easily identify chord progressions and various intervals, all you really need is to know the key of the tune to match the famous perfect pitch. it’s way to overrated

@@asyaryraihan Hey, I think that's understandable especially when the ear is still developing, but once you DO have a reference point eventually it gets super easy to hear the next notes or chords in relation to that reference. Like, if you hit a note "G" out of the blue, yes someone with perfect pitch can tell you what that note is, but if you then hit another note "C" afterwards, immediately the playing field is levelled, since with just a bit of ear training you can hear the relation of "oh that second pitch is a perfect 4th away (or 5th depending on direction)" and know that it's a C based on the first note. That same principle continues into hearing chord qualities, progressions, etc. People with good trained ears, good trained relative pitch, and usually a good base of theory, can figure out things just as quickly and still play by ear and all that good stuff, whether it's brass quintets getting their chords perfectly in tune with adjusting partials to lock in or cocktail pianists recognizing common pop or jazz progressions and assembling an arrangement on the fly. I have perfect pitch, and about half of my family has it, but there's still tons and tons of transcribers and players out there that can write out or play back lines of what they hear faster than I can.

Having relative pitch is imho more useful. I met people with perfect pitch who just couldn't play a transposed (electric) piano because their brain couldn't compute the discrepancy. There is very little advantage in having perfect pitch when compared to having good relative pitch. Music is all about relative pitches and relations anyway. There is nothing absolute about the way we tune our instruments. Edit: just keep training that ear and you'll notice how much you can do!

@@blumenmusic another thing to consider, which you sort of touched on, is the fact that a lot of music is not “absolute”. I am a classically trained violist, and while we don’t typically stray into microtonality and our music is written diatonically, perfect pitch is not helpful in the necessary bending of pitches to achieve more convincing and, frankly, “in tune” scales to our ears, including things like leading tones and perfect intervals. Since notes have multiple ‘correct’ places, absolute pitch can in fact hinder the ability to place these notes in the correct place.

Yeah i also hated singing in choir for that reason :)

I’m the exact same way. The resonance in the chest through passaggio through to head voice, the feeling it makes in my body could help me recognize a note.

This is a very very real problem for us perfect pitchers.

Also that perfect pitch starts to shift downwards in your 50s, Rick Beato has a very interesting video about this.

@@Christopher-md7tf or upwards in rare cases

It’s so annoying because it also shifts (at least for me) depending on what temperament you do music in - if I’m doing a lot of music in baroque pitch (A=415 or down roughly a semitone) then my pitch will get lower and I will find sight-singing in A=440 harder and vice versa for when I sing in A=415 after singing at A=440 most of the time

This is nonsense. There is a range of A. Every single A you hear is slightly different. Tuning is not perfect. Yes you can develop sensitivity to pitch but you don’t have a “pitch center”. Every person has different levels of hearing ability.

@@disinformationworld9378 A has been standardised to 440. People use different As for different purposes, sure. But A's default pitch is 440. Nothing about this comment is nonsensical

There is always this chinese guy in your class which...

I've heard this being thrown around a lot of times... about how speakers of tonal languages are more likely to have perfect pitch. I know that there is research to back this, but almost everyone seems to just accept this as something obvious or natural... like "oh yeah their language uses pitch, music uses pitch, so the correlation makes sense". The issue is, every tonal language out there makes meaningful tonal pitch distinctions based on the RELATIVE pitches of syllables or a pitch contour within a syllable, or a combination of both. There is no language where, say, A4 corresponds to tone 1, and Bb4 corresponds to tone 2, or something along those lines. Rather, what speakers of tonal languages actually listen for is stuff like: "is the current syllable higher or lower than the previous, and by how much?", "is the pitch rising or falling?" In other words, if anything, these factors would suggest that speakers of tonal languages ought to be more perceptive towards RELATIVE pitch differences with REFERENCE to the pitch of surrounding syllables (within the context of a single sentence spoken by a single person), rather than being able to map every perceived pitch with a musical note without any reference, which is what absolute pitch is about. So WHY exactly would speakers of tonal languages be more likely to have perfect pitch, as compared to, say, good relative pitch (which seems to have a much stronger correlation with how tones actually work in languages)? Am I missing some perspective on this? In fact, having perfect pitch (those who recognise pitches in the same way as recognising colours) might even pose a hindrance for people trying to learn tonal languages. Using the example of Cantonese, a syllable said with the pitch of A4 could be a high level tone, a mid level tone, or a low level tone, depending on the relative pitches of the surrounding syllables. I imagine it would be confusing to learn that a single "colour" is associated with 3 different tones, and that a single tone could come in many "colours" depending on the context.

@@hengsikai2862 I believe that perfect pitch is often predicated by a strong auditory working memory. If you speak a language that strngthens this skill, you are more likely to have a 'good' ear and develop a 'great' one during your early nuero-plastic years.

so that means my neural conntection for understanding notes and music colors have not fully died out😅because i listened to very different music as a child, like i remember listening to classic hip-hop, rock, pop, ballads of the 2000's(im 2002 year of birth), and i found myself harmonizing with songs, if its lower pitch, i harmonize by singing higher notes with no clashing of notes, if its a higher pitch, i do a lower harmony, can it be connected to that?

Same with me also ,it’s harder to tell with certain shades.

I also thought that color blindness most usually meant complete lack of cones of a particular type, but looking it up it turns out most cases actually have anomalous cones and rather mild symptoms.

Right, that's a great example of relative pitch, rather than perfect pitch.

I've had a very similar experience. I have perfect pitch and sang in my college's glee club. When we sang Ave Maria, our opening soloist always went around a quarter to semitone sharp of the reference pitch, and there were some parts that I just couldn't sing when it was out of key. I'm sure it would have been much easier if I had developed any sort of relative pitch, but being that music is just a hobby for me, I never got around to it.

As someone with perfect pitch I can confirm, baroque tuning as well as really any transposition of any song feels so incredibly wrong. Using the color analogy, it's like a hue shift. Imagine if apples were all of a sudden orange (or really any other color than red for that matter)

There's also a terrible hidden downside to perfect pitch that I found about recently - it often starts to go wrong on you in late middle-age. You hit 60 and your perfect pitch drifts by a semitone to a tone, and the thing you've relied upon your entire life is suddenly steering you in the wrong direction.

I can totally relate. during my final high school year music aural exam (back in the day where cassette tapes were used), , the speed of the cassete player was a little 'slow', so for the first time in my life (not an ideal time as this was during an exam!), the notes which I heard were not the notes written on the exam paper and I had to transpose every thing I heard "Up" in order to finish those melodies. Frustrating experience! I did bring this matter up to the examiner after. Then years later, I learnt a Chinese string instrument when anumber notation was used. 1=tonic, 2=super tonic etc. For some reason, I was associating 1 for C pitch........I lost the perfect pitch! Still lost to this day many decades later. 😢. now, it's relative-pitch. would be lovely to know how I can get this natural ability back. I'm not desperate for it to happen. it's more curiousity to see when/how/if it will happen. I went back to piano playing 1 year ago after 37 years when I got a calling. Best decision ever!! so grateful I picked up piano again💖. nameste everyone

​​@@Martin-xd4jl oh I didn't know this. sorry to hear you've lost it. I lost my perfect pitch too (which I explained in my comment above). What you wrote just gave me a realization. I have tinnitus where I hear a constant fix pitch noise in my ears. I should go to my piano and find out what this pitch is. So it will be like my internal 'pitch app' running in the background. 😂, a reference point to identifying pitch whenever I need it. haha.😉😆

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@@zachc3 yeah i don’t like calling bs but you no piano experience ever? how did you read the sheet music 😭

@@zachc3 Untrue, in HS I had 0 piano experience and I still can't read music lmao. But I could play songs after just hearing them. For my final I played Fur elise with an empty paper in front of me because I couldn't read it anyway and I had to fake to make it LMAO.

you literally just described relative pitch. You do not have perfect pitch

Associating songs with pitches is pitch memorization, not perfect pitch. If you had perfect pitch you wouldn't even have to think about what the note is. Still very impressive though, and it's not like perfect pitch is needed.

Thats how you think for a second to find a note out. I assume this thinking time would be very short for these notes if you heard them.

Yes, you taught yourself it sounds like. There are many baffling myths about AP that simply won’t die. The worst one is that you only have it if you can ID 12 notes at once kind of opinion. There is a range of ability of hearing and everyone has their own unique hearing level. The ability to ID pitches with AP exists on a spectrum. And it is normal to be good at some notes first before mastering others. This was my experience. Relative pitch depends on an ability to classify what you are hearing which is a mental description. An “intellectual” understanding of the sound. AP is a bit different. Like seeing a color. You can see it or if the lights are off you can’t.

This. If it's now so fast that it's essentially second nature so that you know the pitch right the moment it is played, without thinking about it, I would call it perfect pitch.

Right now i have picked up a song/tune for every note EXCEPT C#. If you know one for C# pls tell me

It’s theorized that to develop perfect pitch, you have to be taught it as a child before a certain point in your brain’s development. So, it is possible that you DID, in fact, teach yourself perfect pitch.

@@the_moist the opening trumpet solo of Mahler's 5th Symphony! 😁

I am from Hong Kong and quite a few friends born and bred here have perfect pitch. Maybe there is some correlation with mother tongues!

Studies have shown that among those who speak tonal languages and begin musical training young perfect pitch is normal, for instance one study which concluded that 60% of Mandarin speakers who began musical training between the ages of 4 and 5 have it.

I've heard this being thrown around a lot of times... about how speakers of tonal languages are more likely to have perfect pitch. I know that there is research to back this, but almost everyone seems to just accept this as something obvious or natural... like "oh yeah their language uses pitch, music uses pitch, so the correlation makes sense". The issue is, every tonal language out there makes meaningful tonal pitch distinctions based on the RELATIVE pitches of syllables or a pitch contour within a syllable, or a combination of both. There is no language where, say, A4 corresponds to tone 1, and Bb4 corresponds to tone 2, or something along those lines. Rather, what speakers of tonal languages actually listen for is stuff like: "is the current syllable higher or lower than the previous, and by how much?", "is the pitch rising or falling?" In other words, if anything, these factors would suggest that speakers of tonal languages ought to be more perceptive towards RELATIVE pitch differences with REFERENCE to the pitch of surrounding syllables (within the context of a single sentence spoken by a single person), rather than being able to map every perceived pitch with a musical note without any reference, which is what absolute pitch is about. So WHY exactly would speakers of tonal languages be more likely to have perfect pitch, as compared to, say, good relative pitch (which seems to have a much stronger correlation with how tones actually work in languages)? Am I missing some perspective on this? In fact, having perfect pitch (those who recognise pitches in the same way as recognising colours) might even pose a hindrance for people trying to learn tonal languages. Using the example of Cantonese, a syllable said with the pitch of A4 could be a high level tone, a mid level tone, or a low level tone, depending on the relative pitches of the surrounding syllables. I imagine it would be confusing to learn that a single "colour" is associated with 3 different tones, and that a single tone could come in many "colours" depending on the context.

Yeah it makes sense seeing as you have to identify tones to speak the language. But from what I learned the tones are not set to notes they are just relative tones so it makes me wonder how relevant it is.

German with vietnamese roots here, had a very similar experience

Looking at examples like Jacob Collier, Mozart, Beethoven, or Hendrix, I don't think that's true and it honestly just sounds like copium.

I’m a learning opera singer with perfect pitch (voice hasn’t fully developed yet haha) and the fact that you know you’re about to sing some high note and *exactly what it is* brings in tension which brings in a heap of problems with my technique

It's not so much chord structures as it is about the 12TET mindset. If you developed PP in a society based on 12TET, you develop a 12TET based PP and so you can't help but hear everything in a 12TET framework. I feel like this does make it harder to internalise the music of different cultures simply because your brain keeps trying to interpret everything it hears as a variation of 12TET.

@@Christopher-md7tf i mean i feel like true copium would be like using the excuse of "hey i will never be good at music because i dont have perfect pitch lol not my fault" Also another thing, those are musicians who have definitely put massive effort into learning music and arent just random people who just happened to have perfect pitch so i dont think it is exactly the most fair comparison

@@Christopher-md7tf The statement “Relative Pitch is better than Perfect pitch” is definitely copium. BUT, the statement “Relative Pitch gets you further than perfect pitch” isn’t. Let’s take your first example, Jacob Collier. He definitely is an amazing musician, no doubt. And his inhuman recognition of microtones he is popular for is definitely something to note. But one misconception I see about him is that the reason he can differentiate Microtones and sing in Just Intonation is solely because of his perfect pitch. That is not true at all. His perfect pitch, like others’ is tuned to 12-TET, A=440hz. That means that solely with his perfect pitch, he likely cannot recognize the difference between “a note in between E and Eb” and “E but approximately 45 cents flat.” So how does he? Well, he has trained and put hours into his relative pitch as well to be able to compare these microtones to the 12 reference notes in his head. So, can you recognize them too? Short answer, yes. Long answer: another misconception I see about Jacob is that no one else can recognize microtones to the level he does. This isn’t true at all as well. All us Humans, including Jacob can recognize a maximum difference of ~5 cents. It may take some ear training to be able to, but this level of relative pitch is definitely acquirable. So, with good relative pitch ear training to match it (and substitute for Jacob’s AP) Ones without perfect pitch can be shown a C as a reference; then recognize an Ab, 65 cents sharp shortly after. Perfect Pitch gives you a head start, relative pitch gets you further.

Does she hate Seth Everman's Moonlight Sonata / Still D.R.E. meme? Moonlight Sonata is in C# minor, but Seth transposes it to A minor so the transition to Still D.R.E. is in tune.

Noticing a song in a different key. I can do this too but I don't have perfect pitch :(. I just have good recollection of the original songs key.

@@Wontoe I’ll have to check…

@@rook4830 Of course it’s possible to learn how to recognize keys, etc. just by listening, But the point is not that she recognizes a different key, but that those keys sound qualitatively different. Since I can’t experience it the same way she does, I can’t really explain it better than when she hears something that’s different, she knows it instantaneously. It’s just an example. It’s not something she learned.

Although I will say that covers are often different because of the arrangements, performance, tonal qualities, etc. She’ll still recognize that the key has changed, but it may sound good. In other words, it’s not just the key/notes that matter but the sound (context)itself in terms of whether she likes the way a piece of music sounds in a given key. And she doesn’t like every piece of music in C# minor, but we have found that she definitely has a preference for it.

Why do you say that colors are wildly different but not sound? The visible light frequency is 400 THz to 700 THz. That's a ratio of only 1.75 between the lowest color we can see and the highest one, yet anyone easily identify at least 7 or 8 different colors. With sound, the ratio between a note and the note an octave higher is 2, and there are 12 notes in between. So it's actually pretty similar to color. Your example with 8 slightly different shades of blue would be like someone able to identify microtonal intervals of less than a eighth of a tone, and even people with perfect pitch probably can't do that.

I’ve been banned from uTube postings for speaking about this, but my findings are here on uTube on my Acoustic Rabbit Hole channel. And, yes, I so see the notes as colors, and as an exact rainbow spectrum.

@@Acoustic-Rabbit-Hole Do you "sort" the notes chromatically or according to the circle of fifths? For instance do you consider the closest note to C is G or B?

@@thomapple OMG (Oh my Goddess.) You are the first person to respond after many days of silence. I'm assuming the uTube suspension has been lifted. THANK YOU. // Ok, to answer your question, it's actually even more literal than that, as far a sorting out the notes. I literally have C as red, D as orange, E as yellow, etc. And the "middle" notes are "in-between colors". In other words, C# is red-orange. And E-flat is Orange-yellow. Therefore, I see it as entirely spectral. Even following how the warm colors (C to F) are one one side, the cool colors (F to B) are on the other. Ending with the end of the rainbow, magenta (the B-note), which blends into red to continue the octave cycle. I'll try to send you link to my youTube channel (The Acoustic Rabbit Hole) so that you can see how i DO arrange it as per 5ths and thirds, as you were mentioning at first. I call it my Musicolor Matrix. Here is an example of the visual color-shape layout of the key of B. I pray that the link works, or that you get my response at all. (Would you believe it was actually Rick Beato or is followers who had me blocked my "reporting" me me like a mob of hayenas because I was disagreeing with them about tuning to A-432, which they kept saying was "conspiracy theory" and "misinformation." (It was a video where Rick Beato was openinly making fun of musical healing, and people who tune to A-432). Anyway, here my B major Matrix. Part of my Micro-matrix's which I started making for each individual key. And, let me assure you, i'm not crazy. The is the second time i've been banned. The first time was by the Adam Neely minions! Over the subject of perfect pitch! - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNB2gMti0J-qeKs.html

Color theory is stupid, colorblind people have a physical, solid reason to why they cant see those colors, they lack the cones, its a physicsl limit you cant change that by learning While perfect pitch is all in the brain, mozart didnt have a special organ in his ear that gave him perfect pitch

That sounds like Synesthesia to me, another extremely rare condition where sensory perceptions overlap in unusual ways.

@@Beefnhammer yes I’ve heard of this, although I don’t really see those colors or taste those flavors, it’s more of an intellectual association

@@armenghazarian3515 If you can "see" those colors and numbers in your mind's eye (you're not ACTUALLY seeing color), it has been known as synesthesia, more specifically chromesthesia.

Fascinating observations! My brain does something slightly similar, where I subconsciously associate certain chords with corresponding colors...

@@InventorZahran I've heard Scriabin actually saw the colors in the corner of his eye. Imagine how cool that would be, or maybe it would get old idk

It is very interesting. I don't have a perfect pitch but a good relative one and I also need to think of a left vs right. Wonder if those two things are connected..

I get the gist of ur comment in regards to pitch, but your analogy with left vs right is so confusing to me. I wasn't aware there were adults that needed to think about left vs right. I don't understand...so when they are driving and someone tells them to take a left or a right turn it's not immediately obvious which direction they mean? I don't get it...I feel like I never had any concept of "front or back" of my body or its parts but I could identify them without thinking...and I thought everyone else was the same. In the middle of writing this it just occurred to me that perhaps it's some pathology and the first thing that came to mind was something like dyslexia. After googling, some people have directional dyslexia so they do have difficulty with differentiating left from right...but the cause isn't from a lack of education, rather I think they were born that way....which incidentally is a good analogy to perfect pitch.

@@cwjalexx I have ADHD and couldn't learn left vs right, it's like my brain moves the information around and could see it either way. Funnily I also struggled with the tunes at 8:00 because they were all clearly Bohemian Rhapsody to me and my gut didn't say "this one is clearly more Bohemian Rhapsody than the others".

Indeed you can memorize A and other notes. And when you get fast you just instantly tell the pitch. There is no magic here. Our brains have equal developable potentials. Training training and training. After thousands of hours learning perfect pitch, everyone can get it.people give up before they even start, just admit that you are not gifted. Wimps a bunch…

I dont have perfect pitch and i can tune my guitar without a tuner. But only because i remember it.

Same here - I can start from A as a reference (or F#, since my middle school orchestra would often miss those and our teacher would have us sing it often) and get most notes pretty quickly, so when he did that little run early in that video (C-G-B-F#-D-A or something) I could pick out all the notes without looking because of the intervals. with chords though (especially 3rds and 4ths) it's definitely more difficult

I am one of two people at my school in Honor’s Theory without perfect pitch. It is interesting to see how difficult sight transposition is for them (cause obviously without perfect pitch you can reasonably convince yourself that any note you want is what you want it to be) Although sometimes we’re asked to sight transpose on fixed-do solfège, plus I’m a classical trumpet major so I have to do genuine transposition then too Not quite so easy then

I went to Yamaha music school when I was 5 years old. Same, I have perfect pitch, but definitely not at Charlie's Puth level. Anyway I remember other children joining my class who developed perfect pitch thanks to that methodology. Today, without anymore practicing any instrument, 25 years later I can still distinguish immediately notes played on guitar, piano, strings, but definitely I cannot tell all the notes of a weird chord played randomly on an instrument (apart from the leading one)

Same here!

It's not too late to learn chord names and solfege, in fact you'll probably find it a lot easier to learn with yo ur perfect pitch.

@@paradox9551 My solfege is fine! Chord names are what I struggle with mostly, but I'm slowly getting there already. Perfect pitch doesn't really make it any easier though; being able to tell whether (for example) a minor 7th chord is Cm7 or Gm7 doesn't really make a difference!

@@jrlepage2a03 I would recommend Michael New on youtube, he really builds up from scratch *why* those chords are named the way they are

Yes, same! I use to be really bad at transposition, since I used to always rely on my perfect pitch.😅

Can sensing what interval there is when two notes are played be learned?

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Now *that* is a good tune to refer to! BAA BAAAAAA BA BABAAAA!

That is COOL!

never call A# Bb again.

@@Hamstray never call an "h" a "b" again. Or just let people call stuff how they want to. Maybe the better choice ;)

Sounds like you may play the piano, and if that's correct, can I ask you at what age you started playing the piano? And also, when you recognize, e.g. F#, if you really think about what happens inside your head, can you tell me whether that feeling is also accompanied by the feeling/look/sense of that specific key on the piano?

@@LetoDK I actually play the recorder! But interestingly in terms of what you were saying about associations - if I'm holding a recorder whilst listening to a song, I can basically bypass the "okay, that's an E - three fingers on the left and two on the right" thing, I just hear the note and my fingers sort of float towards the right holes if that makes any sense. I've been playing for as long as I remember, and I was always played a wide range of music as a kid, which I've heard helps with AP as well.

As someone with perfect pitch, I discovered that my "superpower" is identifying people by voice alone, even people I haven't seen for more than a decade. I would love to learn if this is something all people with perfect pitch can do.

@@carl13579 I honestly don’t know if I have perfect pitch or how I’d tell (accuracy tuning or whistling or singing?) but I’m really good at recognising voice actors, and I can also recall timbral or other textural qualities in audio that others say they can’t. If that helps.

"...reference tones that we hear in our head." This, exactly. When someone says a note, I hear it clearly in my head. Conversely, when I hear a tone, I see it in my mind as the particular note written on a staff.

Interesting, I’ve only heard absolute pitch used as a synonyms for perfect pitch

I agree. I think it's about what our brains are doing with the information internally and some people's brain's ability to process it in a more precise manner perhaps

I am in fact completely blind so can't tell how it really feels to learn about colors, but so far your comment and comparison of both color and pitch makes the most sense to me among all the ones I've read (or should I say, I've heard, as I'm using speech synthesis software to navigate the Internet). And I've read/heard a lot. In fact, at this point, I can't be totally sure that I have perfect pitch. Sure, I was good at recognizing pitch since I was a kid, and I also became quite good at identifying the 4% acceleration of films for PAL format, which got me fed up with cinema for a while. Yet, ask me about notes from a song's melody and though I will find them, I will have to think for a few seconds. Never did I have big troubletransposing music, though perhaps this was due to the fact that I only learnt about reading music in Braille very recently. Plus though my main reference is A=440, it does feel jarring to here baroque music tuned that way. So my perfect pitch, if I do have it, is in good part in contradiction with what is often said, including by people who do have it.

@@thepulseman7154 Hi, thanks for your comment. It does give more evidence that perfect pitch can be learned later in life. I saw another article that said anyone can learn perfect pitch, if they we exposed to a lot of music from conception to about the age of 2. Apparently, the young brain will automatically group the notes from any instrument, into the 12 standard notes. So if you know anyone having a baby ask them to expose them to all kinds of music when they are young. And not just simple music. Include Jazz, classic, everything.

then i could have perfect pitch in jail

@@delcim that would be a useful skill there. Being able to differentiate knife entering skin sounds.

@@HM-ut6eg yes, and the soap falling on the floor as well

You’re basically saying the same thing. Just with a different analogy lol.

@@moltenbutter6958 its close, but the difference is that color blind people dont have all the receptors to see all tje colors, but we all see length, we see/ hear all the same sounds, but some can come up with a concrete value of what they experience

I had the exact same thought while watching the video. His analogy seems a bit off to me because, unlike with color-blindness, everyone can _hear_ every pitch, they just can't usually describe pitches in absolute terms. I think there's a valid analogy to be made with colors, but the one presented here isn't quite right

Agree - even with your choice of keys!

What does harmonizing anything have to do with perfect pitch? If you are in the keys you easely find the pitches and If you do it by ear with your voice you just don't need to care about the labels of the notes.

@@7riXter Agreed. I don't see how perfect pitch plays into harmonizing with a playing track. I don't have perfect pitch, but I can easily write vocal harmonies without much thought.

@@JordonBeal Bro just wanted to flex

Yeah, U-2 engines were not nice to me, but it's still there, if maybe a little more challenging in the upper registers.

I have synesthesia but I do not have perfect pitch, individual notes sounds somewhat to me like very basic colors. Timbre has a much bigger effect on what color different notes are to me ex: guitars make a lot of warm colors to me with a few greens. But the colors come more from the composition and not from the notes themselves so I guess that’s more relative pitch than perfect pitch

Congrats! Haha ur comment got me to relive that feeling alittle again

@@markop.1994 Thanks mate :)

I also thought it was number 2. The first one sounded a little weird so the second one seemed correct but then came the third and I was so confused because I already decided 2 was right but 3 also sounded quite right. But I would have checked 2 and would have been wrong.

same, I thought it was 2.

I mean...there are only 12 notes in Western music...

The next note after that is C#. So it's a good reference for what a perfect fifth interval sounds like.

I've been trying to learn perfect pitch with the same method but can't seem to get melodies right. Individual notes are easy but melodies just go to fast, any tips ?

@@hipporu4279 I have the same problem. For you it’s because the spacing between the notes is too short so you can’t keep track of what one note sounded like while also trying to figure out what the note you’re listening to currently is. I don’t think our brains have a speed limit concerning how quickly we can work out those notes. If you have too many flooding your working memory at once, you’re not going to be able to make heads or tails of anything. Here’s what I suggest. Slow down the melody so you can listen to each individual note more easily. If you can, try to sing the melody and go note by note until you’ve deciphered each note in the melody.

idk obviously I don't know you so I don't know how fast you can recognize these, but I like you also have a "reference" for each pitch but for me over time it's become such an instant thing that I really don't feel bad saying I have perfect pitch. Like if you compare me with someone who has "true" perfect pitch you will be able to notice they are slightly faster (and if I want to I can stop thinking about pitch and "turn it off" which I don't think they could) but to most people in most cases it's going to be the same. So personally I would say you have perfect pitch. I believe it is something you can develop.

Specifically, it's because you have a reference for every pitch that I think it's valid. I know plenty of people with 1-4 or so and that I consider relative pitch. But if you can quickly and reliably recognize and reproduce a note I see no reason to distinguish that.

Yeah the way he described the color analogy may not be the best. I think it would be better to say that people with perfect pitch can remember the *specific* shade of every color exactly in their head and anytime they "hear" that color they know that exact shade. They don't have to have a reference point. We all know red but without any help if we were shown one of a thousand shades of red could we instantly know which it was? They hear any sound and their brains know the "frequency" of the sound. If they hear an A they know that tone immediately, but not because they see all colors in a way that is different to us. Rather because their brain distinguishes what tone is what with basically "perfect" precision.

We also started our children extremely young with music, and although I have perfect pitch, none of our children do.