Victory Gundam in a nutshell

Bandai ask tomino to make another gundam show and tun a was actually good but a bit confusing And then tomino was taking acid when he came up with reco g because he was sure nothing go wrong after turn a success Joke aside I kinda like that idea The fact we had ww2 and the many other conflict in the cold war was because ww1 Even though tomino wanted gundam to be cancelled during the making of victory The quotes from wing made sense since as long there is man there will also be conflict

It's funnier, since almost all UC series ends with a bittersweet note, claiming that there is still hope for humanity despite the tragedy, and that the future may be more peaceful.

:Bandai: Tomino do you have any ideas for the characters? :Tomino: Kill em all!

How worse is the question: Ideon already blew up the entire universe. he'd have a hard time topping that reputation..

@@Feroce dude please do forgive him for he does not know hahahaua

@Mick Quarter where did that multiculturalism and diversity rant come from?

@Mick Quarter dude please realize those are just spooks. Western society was nothing more than that,a society. Made of people working with other people,not lads ranting about their ancestors having sharp noses. Your very language comes from people you would define freaks and they feared other people as something different from their kind,but it's probably the only similarity with your so called ethnic group. I'm begging you,don't loose anymore time reading bs on how you are part of the only civilized population and how diversity is bad. It's literally the final thought of any obsolete group that vanished from this planet ,fearing that other humans might do them any harm worse than what isolation does to human minds.

@Mick Quarter an, so yo are on a role with strange observations

I agree, sure the earth gets kind of fucked in the processes but most of the people live.

.... i don't know about that. e,e

I mean, in canon, he does. He ends up living happily with his family during an era of peace after Char's Counterattack. I can't speak to what happens in the Hathaway's Flash novels, but at least as of right now, that's not canon anyway.

Or his son.

@@ImDemonAlchemist Hathaway's Flash is potentially canon though, what with them not saying anything one way or another about the upcoming movies. The only UC anime they've declared non-canon as far as I can tell is Thunderbolt.

@@ImDemonAlchemist HA! Wait for when they finish adapting Hathaway's Flash that will go from canon to definitively canon.

" Haman just wanted to be a house wife lmao and yeah it sucks what happened to Nat.

then tries to nab a 17 year old in attempt to avoiding christmas cake status

dont let your daughter text the red comet

I wonder if a Noah slap could've fixed her.

Char was at that time, a psychological 52 car pile-up but he could recognize the tragedy of what COULD have been had he decided to sack up and take charge.

@@boxtank5288 i don't think he could

@@FredMaverik No he could...just as he recognized that no amount of regret was going to allow him to step back and ease off the pedal toward self destruction.

Char basically is what happens when the chosen one keeps running from his destiny. him and Haman are both tragic characters and sadly leave Mineva all alone in the world by the end of CCA. should have just listened to the ghost of Lalah. she could see future timelines and wanted Char to be happy.

Hahahahaha pretty much. Sad but still.

@Devilikg try telling that to Char my guy

Kamille got better at the end of ZZ.

​@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 but at that point char's Psyche was un-repairable

@@MinscFromBaldursGate92 crap I always forget that, I just think he died at the end of Zeta

*laughs in bolt pistol*

10K years of static warfare isn't as bad as UC. At least the Imperium is still there.

I mean the dude's avatar is quite literally "Kreiger Char" so

Nurgle: This is an absolute win!

@@HolyknightVader999 Isnt as bad? Most humans never get past 20-30. The average lifespam of an imperial guard is way less than a day..hours at most. Most of humanity live in subhuman conditions working from dawn to night till death. Often never ever gazing upon the sun. Only to have it all taken away because some orks landed on the planet and its now an endless warzone. "The imperium is still there" Thanks to sacrificing billions of lives into the furnances of war. Planets get utterly destroyed on a nearly weekly basis.

More like #BlameMagnus #HeDidLiterallyEverythingWrong

Sol Zen yes

Actually if you look back into the OYW its #BlameGhirenZabi moment.

@@barrybend7189 totally agree

@@MyJourneyConcludes MAGIC MAN WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP LAY OFF

sadly , it does get worst since there countless bloody wars that may have exceeded the 1 year war when put together

Didn't the federation let neo zeon colony drop some city in the desert

@@BOOFIRE191 I thought you reach that billions number only mixing the Gryps conflict with the Neo Zeon War

Damn, no wonder they have kids piloting mobile suits. With all these massacres happening so frequently, the average lifespan of a person in the UC universe must be like 5 years.

well considering C.C dark history happened to tied several gundam timeline. it get more worst. Specially since those mean the UC experience X gundam which is another disaster before pre turn A gundam which simply obliterate ALL space civilization leaving only moon lol.

They literally changed course of the falling colony from Operation Stardust just so it would crash on Earth. It if was just in order to save theirselves, they had the technology to drive it further away from Earth. However, the colony crash meant another war. All the Titans warmachine had already been discused with Bask supporters. How to say no to that huge amount of money? It's almost scary how UC Gundam can be so realistic sometimes.

Space lockheed martin loves stoking the flames, they even give Hathaway a gundam just to watch him fuck with the feddies post cca lol

Barry Bend Then he got shot in the head by his sister Kycilla, who later got a bazooka headshot by Char as she was retreating. LoL

Was the Hathaway novel direct Tomino? Huh.

I always felt Char's thing is how when he tried to be better, he wasn't prepared and people weren't letting it go. Which is why Z ends with him so disillusioned.

​@@DIEGhostfishif you read it you can really tell it's tomino lmao

Turn A blowing things up does not matter. We don't know exactly when Black History occurs. It can be 10 years after Victory, it can be 1000 years after G-Reco, or it can be some weird time-compressed universe where all Gundam universes coexist. No egomaniac like Full Frontal has a right to assert that humanity needs to end now instead of letting things unfold on their own.

@@manat31790 Off topic... but I'd love to see a series about stopping the turn a from resetting humanity

@@manat31790 G-Reco happens after Turn-A

For me, it was “... after landing the greatest headshot of all time.”

@@MetallicMutalisk Thank you for the info.

#KYOJIDIDNOTHINGWRONG

@@jrickducking6685 Well yeah, Kyoji was a victim.

Meanwhile in AD timeline: Shineburg chuckles in Psychohistory.

@Pro Token420 The Endless Waltz in action, eh?

I maintain that G Gundam is the objectively best series in the Gundam franchise.

Works for both one and two, but two is more applicable as the development of the mobile suit kind of mirrors the development of the aircraft carrier - a complete change in how war was waged occurred right in the middle of the conflict.

UC is probably WW2 and WW1 in a reversed position, with all the treaties in place before any war happened, leading to WW2, and then WW1 happened because someone decided he had to rape a girl.

Closer to ww2. Ms are deployed like tanks and fighter planes. Un (titans) are formed but the titans becomes corrupt earth elitists.

Funny thing is that one of things I learned in Modern History back in High school was that a large part of what set the stage for WWII was the the Treaty of Versailles was simultaneously harsh enough to create animosity in the Central Powers towards the Allies that they would want to go to war again, and too lenient that it allowed them to build themselves back up to start another war. Meanwhile, after the One Year War, Zeon basically got most of what it wanted in the treaty despite killing billions, and there were still enough shitheads who weren't happy with that to keep starting more bloody conflicts.

@@badbeardbill9956 Not really The first use of ms more closely resembles the use of tanks in ww1 than anything to do with aircraft carriers.

@DJ Prime - Truth.

@@ARCtrooperblueleader Even jerrid messa, bask ohm, jamitov, Sirrocco, etc?

@@RePhantomz I feel bad for Sirrocco, he made cool mobile suits :(

@@RePhantomz Jerrid is more 'Man who saw following Orders as part of righteousness and wishing to get power to make the GOOD decisions' kinda guy. He definitely got screwed, first by the fact that everyone and their grandmother were all gunning for leadership of the Titans, and second the existence of Kamile who kinda proceeded to (actually or otherwise, he likely attached Kamile's face as though he were the one doing it) kill EVERYONE Jerrid knows essentially. Quick Edit: Of course, a good bit of the No Good Terrible Year that Jerid had was the fault of Jerid himself because he couldn't let go of his hatred for Kamille, on top of that he also kept failing UPWARDS.

Exactly! This is just a play by play of a manga that adds a little flavor to the UC.

Also this manga use as canon movies, not TV series. In first chapter we see colonel M'Quvie. Alive!

@@ViTverd M'Quve crawled out of his grave to protect his vase collection. Jokes aside, if this was an in-depth analysis of Tomino's various novels, beliefs & mentality (by referencing his various interviews or other works) and interpreting his intended direction with Gundam in the 80s, I'd be impressed. Instead we got a summary of CDA. Lmao.

@@UnholyDarknessZ please no specially the branching path of UC. adding reconguista in G will be pain

I was hoping for something deeper too. I feel like the average UC nerd could produce something like this. Still, not bad.

I'd call it "Something Nobody Understands About UC Gundam"

It's intentional clickbait. He has less than 100k subs so he has to pull b.s. like this to get bigger on youtube. If KZfaq knew to recommend videos properly channels wouldn't need to resort to tactics like these.

I still need someone to explain Gundam to me...I can't watch it without characters talking about lots of other characters, and events I know nothing about. I need a video called "Why can't I understand Gundam?!" =(

@@BOOFIRE191 Yeah that the part I'm referring to about the wonkyness of CDA canonicity. Nevertheless its still a interesting manga. Also, Boofire, what other Gundam manga have you read? Would love to hear your thoughts on them.

@@BOOFIRE191 Gundam has a lot of what my friend likes to refer to as B canon, meaning it is canon as long as it doesn't contradict the canon that has been put to screen/animated that it is still considered canon. I remember them having put out a statement that only stuff that had been put to screen are 100% canon. Stories like Gaia Gear have canonicity issues since one of the shows directly contradicted stuff that took place in it. Which is why I pray Crossbone will get animated to seal its canonicity

Studio Nue: chuckles in Macross DYRL movie shitpost.

Gundam's canon, especially in UC, is practically a choose your own adventure thing. Hell people still debate whether the 0079 movie or series is canon, and the entirety of ZZ is non-canon to some.

Well, as far as cannon goes, I'm sure we can all agree that Mobile Suit Vs. Giant God of Legend: Gigantis' Counterattack is definite UC lore.

@Angel Alvarado KAMILLE IS A PERFECTLY GOOD NAME FOR A GUY, I'M A MAN AND I'LL PROVE IT!

Judau survives, Usso survives, Seabook lives, Bright lives. There are a lot of good people that survive.

@@zeniatus It's more like a curse than a blessing Bright get super mega PTSD deluxe after executing his own son without being told about it Usso is on the same boat after victory bitter "Victory" Judau basically ran away to another solar system with a colony full of newtype Seabook does get to be with his family but can't make contact with his sister and mom and not knowing what happened to tobi in seven steel

Juan Rodriguez Usso was fine after the conflict. He’s probably the most stable protagonist out of the lot. Bright and Judau were hit hard from the years of conflict they both witnessed however Judau didn’t runaway. More tried to set off to try and make a newtype paradise. Despite UC being filled with conflict a decent lot of people survive each show, even more counting mangas such as F90.

Well....banager is still alive ...

kai loves u He did everything for the pussy. So you can’t call him good exactly.

@Weston Meyer meh. C.E is just a remake/re-imagining of UC

@@viankatsu im not watching most of uc series yet but seeing seed,seed destiny and stargazer it much worse to me

@@suprisebuttsecksspy5958 destiny i agree because how rushed it is, but seed and stargazer? Nuh uh, not to me

@@viankatsu seed actually had decent plot and dont know what to talk about character, seed its rushed and doesnt make sense, while stargazer showed off a true potential of CE

Tell that to Loran Cehack.

Ideon

Space Runaway Ideon. Not sure if it's the Be Invoked OVA or just the TV series though. It's basically THE show that gave Tomino his "Kill'em all" nickname.

@@DarkButz it's from Be Invoked

@@DarkButz Tomino was a bit spiteful at the time since many complained about how the TV series ended so he decided to have one of the most puzzling "fuck you all "ending for OVA. Then 20 years later, same thing happened with Anno.

Erebus would bang a book. Fabius would just bang.

@@AAhmou Notice how similar their names are...

I mean he was traumatized enough he wasn;'t able to do that.

Really? Char seemed the least at fault to me, certainly in his initial choice not to take up his father's legacy. He, probably better than any other character in the entire Gundam series, understood the dangers of political radicalisation and putting power in the hands of a charismatic dictator. Besides, why should it be the responsibility of one man to push humanity towards a better future? Like Yang said in LoGH, it's the people who want an easy life, who don't want to solve their own problems by their own effort and wait around for some saint or superman to show up from somewhere and shoulder all their troubles by himself who deserve most of the blame. Which is literally every other major character in the series.

@@user-ef1xv2qi3k See I would agree with you if counter attack had not turned out the way it did. Char through Zeta was the reluctant hero being very much forced to take on the mantle of leadership as he fought the titans and tried to make Haman and Neo Zeon see reason. He even managed to push for reforms in the federation but all of that is thrown out the window when he returns as a genocidal mad man. He went in to hiding and watched the world go further to hell, than he came back gathered the broken weak spacnoids under him playing the part of their messiah just to finish a personal grudge. He used Quess and Guss and all of Zeon as tools just so he could have his big dumb fight with Amuro and go out with one last big bang riding a meteor in to the planet. He doesn’t even care about his father’s ideals by the end of it he just wants to die in a big dramatic way. He tries to use Quess against Amuro to hurt him and when Amuro turns it back on him revealing that Quess was looking for a father figure in his pain Char lashes out at Amuro in a childish way blaming him for Lalah’s death even though he had forgiven him back in OG gundam. Char is not the Yang of Gundam that is Amuro. Char is a weak version of Reinhard who could not see things through till the end. Don't get me wrong I feel bad for Char but at the end of the day he screwed every thing up, got Himself and Amuro killed and left Mineva and the people of Zeon alone in a dark world that hates them.

@@kinggundragon3728 Oh man, Char in CCA was a clusterfuck of a character. I'm not even going to try and rationalise who he became or what he did because honestly, it doesn't make any sense to me. His character was totally contrived for plot purposes, turning him from a pragmatic sociopath to a sentimental psychopath. But if we were to hypothesise about how he ended up at that point...I don't think that Char would have ever ended up in a position of political leadership (that gave him the power and resources to buy a literal asteroid) if it wasn't for others enabling him into that position. In Zeta, he was clearly happy with his freedom as Quattro Bajeena, and while he had aspirations for humanity they were, well, humanitarian. Not ideological and certainly not radical. Throughout CDA and Zeta, Char is in a sense groomed to take political power. Yes, I'm talking about 'you should be a human sacrifice' Amuro, 'you have no choice' Kamille and even 'you're the hope of all Spacenoids' Muharaja Karn. After Zeta, Char presumably takes all this to heart and decides he has to be the one to fill the galactic leadership vacuum and take the class struggle into his own hands (or at least that's the only way I can understand CCA Char's motivations). Not that it justifies his mystifying genocidal tendencies in any way, but my point is just that CCA-Char type dictators don't pop out of thin air. They are created through the inaction of others who, instead of stepping up to the plate themselves, shove all their hopes and expectations onto one dude with a convenient family background. And then they have the gall to take the moral high ground when everything goes wrong. I don't think Char is anything like Reinhard or Yang by the way. It was just a quote I thought was applicable. If anything, his pragmatic consequentialism is a very Oberstein kind of thing, though his mommy issues definitely remind me of Reuenthal.

@@user-ef1xv2qi3k I have always felt like Char is meant to be a tragic character but the execution of the events to get him there failed. I feel like he should have returned in ZZ and that should have had the final events to make him in to CCA Char. That artist guy in one of the Africa episodes should have just been Char trying to pull a obi wan kenobi hiding out after what happen to Kamille. He and Amuro should have both returned after Haman dropped the colony on Ireland with Char wanting to kill her and viewing her as his mistake much like he did in zeta. Char should have played the part of the mentor to Judau while Judau would be voice for all the people drug in to war trying to soften a jaded Char. By the end of it Judau should have convinced Char to try and reason with Haman once more. The final fights should have been Judau fighting Glemy while Char has a final confrontation with Haman and Amuro having to fight all of the Ple clones that were loyal to Glemy. During Char and Haman’s fight they should have been forced to share a link thus showing each other how they view the events up to this point and ending with Char talking Haman down and agreeing to take her and the remnants of Zeon away to the far reaches of space. This would have been Char’s highest moment having proven both his father and Lalah right that humans can change. That they can come to truly understand each other only to have it all come crashing down when the federation shows up and a random federation soldier kills Haman while she is still linked to Char. This trigging his PTSD brought on by Lalah’s death. Char would then have to watch as the federation slaughter what remains of Haman’s forces while Amuro holds him back. At the end of it all Judau would leave for Jupiter having been fed up with how things turned out but still hoping for a better world. He would try to get Char to come with him but Char would refuse promising that he wouldn't let this ever happen agaiChar n. Then we would enter CCA with a jaded Char trying to end the federation once and for all. One major difference is ied have Kamille and Sayla both confront Char and try to talk him out of his madness. Only to have him reply that he is doing every thing for them. Having Char view it as the federation would never forgive zeon. They would forever oppress and murder spacnoids and he being the only one who could stop it. The final bit would be him blaming Amuro for being unable to save any one and being the tool of the federation. With them only reaching understanding after he blames Amuro for Lalah’s death and they link and then it would end with them reaching understanding and stopping axis at the cost of their lives. Also I would have Amuro have a son it was really dumb that they took that out of CCA. Sorry for getting a bit long winded there but ive thought about this for many many years after how bad of a taste CCA left me feeling.

Ryde rides again

>he doesn’t know about the 76th Neo Zeon war.

IS what happened in Unicorn called the third Neo-Zeon war? I don't think it is. It was more of a skirmish or a few skirmishes but I don't think Sunrise has ever labeled it the Third Neo-Zeon War. Don't quote me on that but I'm pretty sure I'm right.

@@porkflaps4717 gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Third_Neo_Zeon_War

The Neo Zeon wars are like Battles on the Isonzo, they just don't stop

@@handles_are_a_bit_rubbish Another Rumble on the Isonzo: Franz Conrad _"The Punisher"_ von Hötzendorf *"A LEFT HOOK LIKE A SKODA HOWITZER!"* vs Luigi _"Generalissimo"_ Cadorna *"WHEN A SOLDIER LACKS THE SPIRIT AND WILL TO FIGHT, HE LACKS EVERYTHING!"*

Sim. Frischh Overworked Gelgoog looks absolutely amazing, tbh.

@@ev4n5eli0n01 Totally. I love how the MS are shown here, it´s almost a shame what Haman came to Earth later on. As if they suddenly forgot how to design good MS.

True the whole story starts at the end of the OYW and ends at the beginning events of Zeta where Char joins the AEUG and begins the MKII jacking operation.

I'll fight you. I'm in love with that woman!

Ok so you are into dominatrix Minky Momo. Ok.

@Barry Bend 😂

She is a great character and an excellent antagonist.

@@bravo0105 I know but I had to make the joke.

🦋

G-Saviour and Reconigusta in G: Amauteurs. The rest: What did you say, punk? Those two: Amateurs!! Ideon: Hi! (Meanwhile Battletech looms over behind all of them including Ideon)

Wait for real I read f90 and i was aware about mar zeon But mar zeon was still active after that I thought it was a bunch of old space boomers But a whole somewhat army

@@jrickducking6685 Yeah, Formula Report 0122 had the Oldsmobile Army invaded Earth.

I am very not familiar with anything you just said

Past unicorn and even other works that happen between the various uc shows im very unfamiliar

I really got to wonder how there keep being new wave of Zeon forces when every single time they have lost and had every single person fighting for them killed. They should be extinct a dozen times over. It would be like if we had major Nazi terrorist groups that somehow had comparable military force to the U.S. popping up every decade since World War II and losing every single time and having all of their stuff wrecked, yet a decade later another with again comparable military equipment just popped up again. It's almost like the creators of Gundam are so fixated on that one single plotline that they are utterly incapable of moving on and actually writing literally anything else. Also-- given the regularity of spacers declaring themselves new Zeon waves, why did no NeoTitans anti-spacer force never materialize again to actively work to prevent such a thing? Seems like as the Earth Federation wins every single conflict, but not without suffering great casualties, it would be much easier for an extremist anti-Spacer group to form than another Zeon wave.

Feds are good, Titans were rogue agents.

@@GonnaDieNever the Federation is horribly corrupt and at best rather callus

@@justinreijnders8992 And stills by the good guys.

@@GonnaDieNever I think you are conflating "the good guys work for us" with "we are the good guys"

Tancread of Galilee The escalation of the one year war is on both Zeon and the Federation.

Don't forget that Bask supporters pretty much wanted Stardust to succeed to create a schism into the Earth Federation for the Titans to be born. Even if Stardust never happened, any Zeon/Spacenoid revolt would have been fueled into something bigger as an excuse to divide Earthlings. It wasn't one sided, so it was bound to happen no matter what Axis decided.

Iron blooded orphans

Gundam Wing, IBO, X