what’d they change that made it no longer viable

@@z69b Zacian being banned from Ubers.

@@z69b moved Zacian to AG, Quagsire was basically the only reliable counter

@@z69b It's litterally in the main comment

@@raegatan2110 oh

Also Ariados in Gen IV Ubers.

@@ArbitraryOutcome Not as much a niche, as it is hoping you don't know the MU. Can't even learn X-Scissor in this game, it can't OHKO Darkrai

@@grunkleg.3110 it makes it into a matchup guess. If its put into swarm range with an attack it can ohko, if it uses a sleep and its against insomnia then it wastes a turn and ariados can win. Still bad, but it doesnt auto lose to darkrai

*angry kyogre noises*

@@grunkleg.3110 Ariados is mainly trying to stop Deoxys Speed. Darkrai having to worry about whether it has Swarm or Insomnia. Swarm will make Bug bite an OHKO I believe (or at least Bug bite into Shadow sneak), while Insomnia will make Dark void a waste of a turn, allowing Bug bite twice.

So Garchomp was a unintentional warning of Mega Rayquaza in gen 4 Ubers

And speeddd

as of writing this the likes are the same as garchomp's speed stat.

@@gregorymirabella1423 lol

@@gregorymirabella1423102

Aegislqsh can't have shit nowadays. I played xy, so I don't know if I should feel bad or not.

crunch zacian :>

@@thefoodyscarecrow7391 Zacian isn't allowed in Ubers

@@niar1726 it was at the time of aigeslash

@@thefoodyscarecrow7391 Crunch zacian was rare it usually run either of It's stab moves, close combat,swords dance,and assurance

gamstrodon

It's awesome how the addiction of stuff like Stealth Rocks, Light Clay, Focus Sash and Life Orb turned Deoxys Speed from being the worst Gen 3 Uber to a great Gen 4 Uber.

Ariados: You called?

*Sad Wooper nickednamed redditor noises*

I wish temp6t didn't exist. Dude makes the fakest vids ever

Lmao

temp6t fans when they find out his strategies don't work past 1100 ELO

At least he says sometimes when these things are skits

Auto play sent me here from a temp6t video

Back in X/Y it was one of the main stays of the tier as one of the few reliable answers to Xerneas

Who asked

setup fodder for dark types

@@joelarmando9187 the only dark types in Uber are Yveltal, Weavile Urshifu and Tyranitar, and they're not exactly setting up on Klefki (plus Urshifu is 4X time to Fairy and Klefki tends to run Play Rough in Uber from memory so it doesn't relish switching in since it's a bad prediction away from taking way way too much)

@@sephikong8323 still gets walled by magic bounce users(although seldom used) and psychic terrain users like fightinium z/scarf lele excadrill is immune to twave and has rapid spin in natdex, arceus forms can use defog and refresh to counter twave and hazards. arceus ground is also common, usually having a super-effective stab against it, and immune to twave. as op said, klefki is usually seen in natdex ag(although i dont see it at 1650) klefki is also overshadowed by hazard setters like shuckle, and screen setters like grimmsnarl leftovers bisharp with no bulk isnt even 3hkoed by play rough and immune to prankster. taunt also cripples klefki, and taunt can be used by a lot of common threats in ubers tier. not to mention electric types, like koko, which can run heavy duty boots and wall klefki. if it can have "a spot in ubers" just because it has priority + utility moves, then why shouldn't triage comfey be in ubers?

Shedinja IMO is a handle with care mom that should run a focus sash most of the time. I did that on an AG team with the point of being a scapegoat pick that could potentially get picks and not die while using it as the scapegoat it was on my team to be.

@@cyanideytcuriousseadoggo this aged poorly didn't it

@@TheFlameJoltTerra ruined it by making it immune to direct attacks

I think the reason why people don't like ubers is because "muh legendary spammers don't have any skill!!!1!" Also bw ubers my beloved

I know it's Legendary, but Regieleki deserves a special mention too, as due to how rare Ground Types are in Ubers bar Groudon, and Zygarde, who will not even be on every team due to a Electric Immunity not being required on every team like it is in OU, it's actually FAR more effective at enabling offense teams with its mix of offensive presence, and utility than it is in OU, and even in the worst case Scenario where your opponent DOES have a ground type, Regieleki's Role Compression still means that at the very least you still have a spinner that's extremely annoying to spinblock, speed control, and a method to force heavy damage with Explosion depending on if you opt for it. It's only C Rank for a reason, and its Power is a bit underwhelming due to how bulky everything is in Ubers, but there is still something to be said about its niche, and how it's a surprisingly usable pick for Offensive teams.

I'm really happy for Ferro since I love Grass types.

I'm glad that Magnezone gets body press to compensate for the removal of hidden power

Ayyy, fellow Magnezone lover. Great taste my friend.

Actually, Quagsire was the one in Gens 3 & 4 that had that niche of walling Kyogre. Gastrodon needed the Storm Drain rework/buff in Gen 5 to wall Kyogre.

@@darianclark3980 Guess you can always count on Quagsire in dealing with absurdly broken stuff like Orge or Zacian

@@theimpersonator7086 yep

@@theimpersonator7086 Unfortunately quagsire needs unaware to check zacian, but without water absorb would get completely destroyed by kyogre, so he can't check both of them at once

live slug reaction

Rampardos literally only has a good attack. But I agree and also want the reverse of that with the best example being ferrothorn with less than 490 bst

Haxorus and chandelure?

@@vyktorehon5995 chandelure is good in lower tiers and haxorus is banned from RU

@@razorgliscor940 it's not good enough to be in UU unlike previous gens

@@vyktorehon5995 their still solidly strong though

I think your first idea would create alot of chaos, although the second idea seems really cool. Maybe split take all the ubers below c tier and put them into a tier

UU Ubers sounds like a good idea

Ubers was originally just a banlist, but nowadays, it's pretty much a regular tier composed of banned Pokemon. You could make a tier composed of underused Ubers by usage

Might be interesting. I definitely like the idea to turn any large chunks of unusable pokémon (be they borderlined between certain tiers, or be a list of pokémon outclassed in PU that are more numerous than the ones that are effective in PU) into a tier of its own instead of letting a big portion of the pokédex fall to the wayside completely.

@@Qvartz_Lite a friend of mine made a tier called OUBL which has all the unbanked ubers

I feel like that would be boring compared to this tbh, as OU's power level is usually where the best non-legendary Pokemon are best at. This video is more the exception to the rule.

@@SeriousStriker I got the point. MY point was that OU is similar in that it's full of legendaries.

This honestly doesn't feel interesting as Non-Legendaries in Uber. Most Legendaries in Ubers are the Box Art Legendaries with significantly higher BSTs than the rest, Kyogre, Ho-Oh, Eternatus, etc. Lando-T, Heatran and the others only have BSTs of 600 at best while some even have them lower such as the Ultra Beasts and the Tapus only having 570 while the Zapdos has 580. The Non-Legendary Pokemon are certainly still on-par against most Legendaries despite such stat discrepancy. This, however, shows just how harsh Power Creep has gone.

I really hope gen 9 OU will have way less legendaries. Preferably non.

@@littleDainolf Koraidon and Miraidon are already confirmd. Also, other than like gen 1 games and their remakes, every box art was a legendary. it wouldn't make sense, there's supposed to be a conflict with a powerful being on your journey to get the 8 gym badges.

Dracovish is huge lol

@@kefkapalazzo1 In the Ubers mindset, anything that's not native to the tier is tiny and insignificant :P

Ive never seen anyone abuse the gen 6 crit mechanics besides Focus Energy Kingdra which is pretty niche as it sounds (and Sirfetch'd I guess)

And it’s not stab….

Power creep. 🥲

*sad Mewtwo noises*

It's also really stupid how they nerfed Aegislash and then proceeded to release the most insane Legendaries we've seen so far.

Ever since gen 7 gamefreak has been creating pokemon solely for competitive, and it's so trash. The best thing is when players create unique strategies and decide what's good or not, not when the fucking creators make a pokemon with 10 SpA and 180 attack/speed with an OP ability.

@@enoyna1001 poor Mewtwo right..

bruh

Also it has a really bad typing Dark/Rock 😖

@@J_Chuks And depsite that, it was OU for 7 (6?) gens straight

@@tangerinepaint3643 goes to show how good the sudos were hell I still think it's in Gen 8 OU to this day

@@J_Chuks yep, dropped to UU once, went back to OU, then it never dropped again

@@tangerinepaint3643 Gen 7 and Gen 8 UU was a really weird time, you had top mons like Gengar and Scizor crumble and drop there, only to crush everything in sight and get banned.

Update: Now it’s unusable because Nat Dex AG was removed. They might have to add an Electric Shedinja Terastalization Clause

Yeah I was wondering why it wasnt on the list but alas. Maybe calyrex shadow got too good

He made that video

@@yeet8036 thanls! just managed to find it. gonna watch it immediately

You should try out ubers! It's really fun to get a foot into competitive pokemon :) OU is way too complicated for beginners imo

Zacian can learn solar blade

@@Pikachufan-hz4xb 2 turn move, switch out

Imagine someone steals that with Me First

But most necrozmas dm are defensive and cant afford to run heat wave on their set just to deal with magnezone and for pretty much nothing else

@@julianokohlerdasilva3629 you definitely could, the main moves you run on the bulky set are knock off, moonlight and iron head, and again, the 4th slot is kinda up for grabs. And considering magnezone is a popular counter and is a guaranteed ko if they have one, and this one move counters that counter, that makes your bulky set have even fewer weaknesses. Plus the type coverage if needed is not bad, in case its your last pokemon.