NONBLUE cEDH feat. Shivam Bhatt | Etali VS Winota VS Heliod VS Minsc

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@cptnnpkn21 15 күн бұрын

Shivam wouldn't have been able to cast March of Otherworldly Light to remove Academy Rector because of Phyrexian Censor as he cast Mother of Runes on the same turn.

@getchucked7401 15 күн бұрын

Wouldn't matter unless Jerry had interaction since could have been done on Jerry's upkeep.

@SaltyBrolaf 15 күн бұрын

In fact he couldnt do it in his endstep since there was no etb trigger which would have passed priority

@getchucked7401 15 күн бұрын

@@SaltyBrolaf 117.3b The active player receives priority after a spell or ability (other than a mana ability) resolves.

@brycemattson4913 15 күн бұрын

⁠@@SaltyBrolaf fairly new to magic, so I could be understanding this wrong, but doesn’t priority pass at the resolution of an effect? So the resolution of chord of calling (which put Academy Rector on the board) should pass priority around right?

@Natedogg2 15 күн бұрын

@@brycemattson4913 SaltyBrolaf is incorrect. After the Chord is done resolving, everyone gets priority again before we move to the cleanup step. There's no requirement that something must trigger for players to get priority again. So ignoring the misplay with the Censor, Shivam would get priority again during his end step, after the Chord resolves, and would get a chance to cast the March during his end step.

@Zenith118 15 күн бұрын

Is that world renowned cEDH professional blue player Shivam from the CAG?

@brainbenderNo1 15 күн бұрын

Loving Jerry's commitment to the bit and just staring down the camera

@jeffwren7815 15 күн бұрын

Jim not casting twinflame on Etali and letting it stay exiled hurt my soul deeply.

@Natedogg2 15 күн бұрын

There was a Thalia and a Vryn Wingmare in play, with only one untapped land in play. He couldn't cast it even if he wanted to.

@dimitriosdoulgeris4659 15 күн бұрын

@@Natedogg2 I see, I also wondered, now I am enlightened. Thanks.

@Welverin 15 күн бұрын

Wow, Noted spike Shivam Bhatt really likes popping off on turn one.

@casualmagicwithshivambhatt 15 күн бұрын

why wait?

@KingUmaPBK 15 күн бұрын

the rector being exiled from March couldnt happen when it did due to phyrexian censor, Shivam had already cast a non-phyrexian spell that turn being Mother of Runes since all this was happening at his end step

@joshtaylor8832 15 күн бұрын

Since Jerry isn't playing blue, I can't imagine the game changing if March is considered cast in Jerry's upkeep instead. It was exiled not destroyed afterall. I'm curious though, are there answers Jerry could have had?

@anxez 15 күн бұрын

@@joshtaylor8832 I had a reply typed out, but Minsc's ability is sorcery speed only, so there is no winning interaction stack for Jerry there. The game was not changed.

@jojobetzler3732 15 күн бұрын

@@joshtaylor8832 Couldn´t Jerry just kill the Rector with Minsc at instant speed to find the Saffi Gerrard Twinshot combo? Nevermind Minsc is only in sorcery speed.

@SamErvin 15 күн бұрын

Sweet game! I love seeing Winota in cEDH. Neither of these things were huge, but a couple things I was curious about: - Should the Phyrexian Walker have attacked Jim at 16:40? You'd get an extra Winota trigger in your second combat. - Why not cast Twinflame at 20:14? You can make another token copy of Etali and cast more spells (though Imperial Recruiter already tutors for Squee).

@lokumo13 15 күн бұрын

There were two Ranger Captains out. Sure while one free Twinflame is free, the noncreature spells could have been stuck in exile under a Ranger Captain activation. In the instance a Food Chain was amongst the exile under a Ranger Captain effect, it would have sucked. Alternatively, Food Chain may be in hand who know.

@lokumo13 15 күн бұрын

Continued watching the video-FC was in hand.

@nathanielveldman9373 15 күн бұрын

The double thalia tax still has to be paid on 'free' spells and Jim did not have 2 mana

@SamErvin 15 күн бұрын

I didn't catch that Twinflame is a noncreature and would have needed the tax paid, good call. And yeah, accidentally exiling a combo piece like Food Chain would have been bad (Jim had it in hand this time, but it's not really a misplay IMO even if the free spells were actually free, just to avoid further shenanigans).

@morgancarlton4544 15 күн бұрын

At 21:55, Jan could have sacrificed mog fanatic in response to the Mom activation to kill Mom, right? Not necessarily a better play than killing the cathar commando, but opportunities to kill Mom are somewhat rare.

@HeirophantCarneus 15 күн бұрын

Definitely. And Jim tutored for Squee which means food chain is incoming and the commando could have saved the day. Jerry's llanowar elf was probably the best target. It happens!

@connorl0204 12 күн бұрын

I really like the light green “spike feeders” color of sleeves that i have seen on other videos of yalls. Where would i find them, because i tried the two bigger LGSs in my area and even did a little looking online but was unable to find them.

@TheSpikeFeeders 12 күн бұрын

They're Gamegenic Matte Prime sleeves in the Lime colour. I just buy them at my LGS!

@MrGrovak 14 күн бұрын

I noticed Shivam said after Jan's Magus came down his lands 'wouldn't hurt him this turn', but as long as he didn't need both colorless from the Ancient Tomb to cast something he could tap it for green using the Yavimaya under Jims control. Inconsequential overall but just something I thought is noteworthy if he were to venture back in to some more cEDH. Great game overall though.

@veganpork7601 15 күн бұрын

13:49 Shivam just became my favorite guest

@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy 15 күн бұрын

I swear, Jim has to do these captions during the deck intros. There is nobody else that embodies the phrase "Mono-White No Fun was my high school nickname" more than him, both in terms of humor and just the sort of general vibe they put out.

@TheSpikeFeeders 14 күн бұрын

Alex writes the intro cards, glad you enjoy them!

@The1AndOnlyGoldenboy 14 күн бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeedersYeah, that tracks too. Alex is pretty dang funny also. Thanks for the reply!

@BobbyBev95 15 күн бұрын

Two thoughts -Jan blowing up Cathar Commando with the Mogg Fanatic didn’t make much sense knowing that Jim just searched for Squee, and a food chain was on the way. If he wanted to take something out, maybe a mana dork or the Mother of Runes. -With Etali running rampant and Underworld Breach still powerful, I feel like Aven Interrupter would be so good in this format. It’s good in counter wars, great to stop Etali’s free casts and food chain loops, and an evasive body for Tymna decks

@jasonandrews1770 15 күн бұрын

Im just here for Etali. Always support my son

@jaydenthie1011 11 күн бұрын

shouldnt that land tax have cost 3 at 22:44 because of the mare and thalia?

@LPchief 15 күн бұрын

18:23 why does the celebrant die from the phyrexian censor blocK? it has +2/+2 and first strike right?

@Natedogg2 14 күн бұрын

No. Rick is giving it +2/+2, lifelink, and vigilance, not first strike.

@thedevilcomes2011 16 күн бұрын

Woo Spikes + Shivam!!! :)

@nizo6673 15 күн бұрын

that rick commander sounds awesome and what it offers, might be my new commander

@lightfut 14 күн бұрын

Look at this, my favorite pod!

@magnusmagicus1977 8 күн бұрын

Wonderful game, wonderful people. And I know now again why I do not play cEDH but laid back casual :)

@serrademers6047 15 күн бұрын

Who writes the jokes at the bottom of the commander spotlights during the introductions? They are always gold! Now to the mistakes I noticed. Jerry casts Llanawar Elves but does not have it enter tapped, as it is a non-phyrexian spell (not game-impacting) 14:26 Shivam would not have been able to cast March of Otherworldy Light as he had already cast his one non-phyrexian spell for the turn, Mother of Runes.

@TheSpikeFeeders 15 күн бұрын

Alex writes them!

@Doug464 15 күн бұрын

Minsc sacs at sorcery speed so exiling during his upkeep would've also worked so the mistake in timing doesn't really matter too much no?

@WayneyMTG 14 күн бұрын

Enjoying Shivam at the table, great game

@thewebscholarzan1650 15 күн бұрын

Thats a pretty steep ward cost was glossed over and it shouldnt have been, brilliant

@ezraandersen7133 14 күн бұрын

Contrary to everyone yelling about the March misplay, I’d be interested in knowing if Jerry had interaction to use with untapped mana upon upkeep cast of March

@dylaneilertson2335 15 күн бұрын

The wrong Heliod is in the thumbnail 😢. Was looking forward to Vigilance typal cedh!

@ArmorBreaker88 15 күн бұрын

Yeah this one tripped me up. 😢

@alexjodlauk 15 күн бұрын

at around 15:00 I think Shivam could not have cast that march due to his own Phyrexian sensor since he just casted the mother of runes that turn. Or am I missing something? EDIT: I guess that didn't matter that much since he just could have casted it in Jerrys upkeep, But jerry could have had anything in his hand with the untapped mana he had at that point

@lunameyers7093 15 күн бұрын

Can we get a all blue cedh?

@zackerymorris8268 15 күн бұрын

Well now y'all have to play a mono blue game. For the sake of BaLaNcE! Great game always a joy for Shivam to join these

@noahpetrasko6777 15 күн бұрын

Surprised shivam swords'd the magus considering it wouldnt have hurt him all that much - he had mox diamond + plains in hand. Also surprised by Jim not casting twinflame. Super surprised Jan killed the cathar for no reason after Jim tutored for Squee. Feels like it isn't the biggest logical leap to assume Jim has food chain from that position haha.

@aenubiis 15 күн бұрын

You put the other heliod in the vid image

@6litz585 15 күн бұрын

Why not cast the heat shimmer and keep digging for something? 20:09

@6litz585 15 күн бұрын

twinflame*** my bad

@Natedogg2 15 күн бұрын

There was a Thalia and a Wingmare in play. It would have cost two mana to cast it, and he only had one mana available.

@connorl0204 12 күн бұрын

15:26 ignoring the fact that shivam already cast a non phyrexian spell, couldnt jerry have just activated minsc for zero targeting rector in response to the march to kill it and still get to tutor an enchantment?

@TheSpikeFeeders 12 күн бұрын

Minsc can only be activated at sorcery speed.

@connorl0204 12 күн бұрын

@@TheSpikeFeeders thanks, i actually just found someone else mentioning that in the comments as well!

@IamJoshEast 15 күн бұрын

Shivam ignored his own effect, he cast a MoM and a March in the same turn, both non-phyrexian.

@TunedToDoom 15 күн бұрын

I think that Land Tax should have costed 3 because of Thalia & Wynmare

@burningpapersun1 15 күн бұрын

Super spike Shivam is best shivam.

@EmoFinnoEmo 15 күн бұрын

at 18:25 combat celebrant shouldn't be attacking after exerting it it should be tapped and unable to attack

@Natedogg2 14 күн бұрын

The Celebrant has vigilance from Rick's ability, and exerting the creature doesn't cause it to become tapped. It prevents it from untapping during their next untap step, but exerting doesn't cause it to become tapped.

@MrMalorian 2 күн бұрын

Turn 1s in cedh are wild...

@rogerrabbit132 15 күн бұрын

Shivam had the God-hand in that opener! Edit :: Etali winning warms my heart.

@brydar9171 12 күн бұрын

Did Shiva discard to mox diamond?

@TheSpikeFeeders 12 күн бұрын

You can see the land in his graveyard - it was just off camera.

@zekelockman1477 15 күн бұрын

STILL need that All Will Be One hat. Does anyone have a link?

@alexmcgregor8658 15 күн бұрын

It was sold as merch at Magic Cons, not sure if it is available from wizards/other resellers

@TheGrifcannon22 15 күн бұрын

Just wanted to say, when Jerry played his BoP I was a little disappointed it wasn't followed by a Mmmm Bop. Great game nonetheless.

@pixielilla7369 15 күн бұрын

No blue is less surprising than no black imo

@thevaultwalrus 15 күн бұрын

There’s no Dimir AKA No 2/3s of Crim

@JohnDoe-mt2sy 13 күн бұрын

casting mox diamond without discarding a land?

@Natedogg2 12 күн бұрын

They didn't show it in the video, but he did discard a Plains (you can see it in the graveyard shortly after the Mox entered).

@minazuki4735 15 күн бұрын

Jim can cast Etali in turn 3

@ElDocBruh 15 күн бұрын

I'm no cedh enthusiast so I don't understand why Jim didn't cast the free Twinflame to get more Etali free stuff :v

@Natedogg2 15 күн бұрын

There was a Thalia and a Vryn Wingmare in play, and Jim only had access to one mana and couldn't pay the tax.

@ElDocBruh 15 күн бұрын

@@Natedogg2 Ohhh! ty, missed that

@connorl0204 12 күн бұрын

11:23 you said to watch for it. I watched for it and i seent’t it.

@thmsdrew 15 күн бұрын

If there's no blue why am I so sad

@lilwigese1 14 күн бұрын

Etali winning thru 3 white stax decks just goes to show you how stax is officially dead and the worst cedh strategy

@papaUrabrask 3 күн бұрын

That's a way of seeing it I suppose. I see it more as a testament of how absolutely broken food chain lines are. I mean the expression "food chain wins games" is rarely wrong haha.

@lilwigese1 3 күн бұрын

@papaUrabrask food chain is great but not the best combo in cedh. One drannith Magistrate and every food chain combo crumbles.

@kjart 15 күн бұрын

Fun guest + game, nice

@punos909 14 күн бұрын

Shouldn't Jim have been able to cast one of the exiled cards from his first Etali trigger on his next turn? The note at the end says they have to be cast immediately but why is that when Etali doesn't say "this turn"?

@Natedogg2 13 күн бұрын

Since there's no time frame given, like "until end of turn" or "for as long as it remains exiled", you cast them while Etali's trigger is resolving or not at all. Anything you don't cast when Etali's trigger is resolving can't be cast on a future turn.

@ianross9475 15 күн бұрын

Non-blue CEDH = basically a race. Might as well play casual. 😂

@tylercraig5633 13 күн бұрын

Any particular reason why you didn’t cast the Twinflame on Etali?

@matrixshaman6652 15 күн бұрын

Couldn't Jerry have targeted the Academy Rector with Minsc's ability where X is 0 to kill it?

@Natedogg2 15 күн бұрын

Minsc's ability can only be activated as a sorcery, so it can't be activated at the end of Shivam's turn.

@flyingtoastr 15 күн бұрын

How do you stop people from just using different flavors of Thoracle combo in every game? Ban Island. Take notes, RC. ;-)

@kevinwestermann1001 15 күн бұрын

Quite some Thoracle lists play one island at most due to Tainted Pact.

@DrCoolGuy88 14 күн бұрын

Maybe I'm being a bit of a sour sport, but I feel like I've noticed more gameplay errors lately (and thankfully, comments edited in addressing them!). I appreciate the effort it takes to make this content, but I expect a little more from The Spike Feeders playing a competitive format. Especially with at least one judge sitting at the table (I know Jan is a judge, do not know about any other players).

@hansolo8080 15 күн бұрын

We need better decks, that episode was too long.

@Arti_Shovelhead 13 күн бұрын

wouldn't it be great if youtube replaced the thumbs down with a heart...spread the idea and the love!

@B1gLupu 13 күн бұрын

Those attacks were very "non-cEDH". GO FOR THE KILL, swing the person with the least hp, not the one with the most. If you are going to play cEDH, you should aim to pilot competitively too.

@pickledtoast2263 15 күн бұрын

Mox diamond should have been sacrified without discarding the land card which he didn't play? Allowed swords, commander the next turn, unless I missed something. Oh well, nobody is perfect. Fun game!

@crimsonleg4237 15 күн бұрын

Looks like he discarded a plains, it's there under his graveyard when he uses the Mox Diamond. He just doesn't announce it.

@pickledtoast2263 15 күн бұрын

@@crimsonleg4237 thanks, didn't notice that

@casualmagicwithshivambhatt 15 күн бұрын

i discarded a plains. you can see it in my graveyard. i announced it, but it didn't make it into the final edit for some reason

@Sheer_Falacy 14 күн бұрын

He actually exiled a plains. It should have been in the graveyard rather than exile but it didn't really matter this game.