A steady 15 is a 4 minute mile and it gets you around in practical terms very well.

@@desmondstephen9942 yeah, I get around town just fine but often compare my times on Strava and am shocked how fast some people are. Seeing that riding in a group can push up your mph is nice to see. :)

If you can average 15mph by yourself, 20mph in a group is easy. That’s why group rides are so much fun.

Lmao. On my own I average about the same 15-18mph but with a group I average around over 20mph. Group rides is fun but also super tiring.

@@christianalboroto7574 I only ride with team once but I do feel much easier

Impossible you need a draft The best you can do on you own and being conservative is 20-22 if you are an amateur

Get a velomobile. 🙂

It's so they can look at each others arses.

Same. Even 170w is ~17.5mph

200w = 30 Kph, so 18.75 mph for me. Depending on the weather though, in winters it's slower (thick air) and perhaps on an ideal warm day, it would be 20 mph

@@JanBernhart I’m with you, if it’s a 200 watt day I’m just not breaking 19 mph

@@chriswitek9455 17.5mph for me is like 120W lol. 😉Last few P12 crits, we averaged 28mph and I was under 200W.

Yea I always have ridden solo, 25 years and obviously can’t appreciate drafting. I typically cannot average more than 18 mph average over a 20-30 mile ride.

Man gravel bikes are so nice haha love mine, can ride fast on the street and still go offroad :)

Two good questions to avoid living bad habits on autopilot.

Keep on doing what you can! I'm 67, no meds but some lung damage from covid. I usually maintain a 15 mph average on rolling terrain and 18 on flats. I don't get out much anymore and miss it!

Regular exercise will lower your blood pressure.

You’re only 68… you could easily live another 20.😊

@@arilehman9723 I wish regular exercise would lower my blood pressure. Started riding at 57 along with improving my diet. I turn 60 in 2 weeks. In the 3 years of riding, I lost weight, but my blood pressure and cholesterol have increased. I actually had to get on BP meds. I'm not on anything for cholesterol, yet.

you are the man Ed, don't let anyone tell you otherwise

Ryan Mussett you’re a Beast, that’s a crazy average speed for someone who started cycling in 2021. Kudos to you!

eric in the other reply is calling you a beast...how old are you? Ill bet your somewhere around 20 yrs old, give or take... Your numbers are good. You'll be fine in any group ride; just learn the etiquette of group riding. 190w to maintain 20mph is well above average, esp if that is Z2 for you. Again, sounds like youth to me... What will be foreign to you is that every 10 years of your life after 20 will result in a LOSS of about 10 HBPM (heart beats). An hour of riding with 10bpm LESS PER MINUTE, is 10x60= 600 heart beats LOST for a 30 yr old, that you still have available. 600 less beats of critical Oxygen and nutrients, etc is a LOT of extra blood flow. Thats the advantage you have with youth. A 40 yr old = 1,200 LESS heart beats. 50, 60, just do the numbers! Hence the other post by eric calling you a "beast." You will eventually not be able to maintain those numbers SO...get into biking NOW. Hit it hard and PUSH. Learn how fitness and nutrition works combined with various types of training methods. Get a smart watch that tracks your gps and heart and learn your numbers, and how to increase them. You can start with Strava but will have to dump the data off into a program designed to really provide numbers analysis. Man do i wish i were 20 yrs old! Good luck. RIDE SOME GRAVITY

Prayin 4 at least some sun this spring

relax

always better to apply more energy at fast parts, and NOT into headwind!

@@lunam7249This is literally the opposite of true in a TT and attempted breakaways are as close as you get to a TT in a mass start race.

@@kidsafe E = 1/2 mc^2..... delta(e) = velocity^1/2.....where im from west coast TT are solo

@@lunam7249 You want to exploit the inefficiencies in your competition. As a 178cm/63kg rider who gets very aero, I exploit my low CdA and am very hard to follow in a headwind section. If I try to attack in a tailwind section I lose my advantage and the people with higher absolute power can easily keep up. Understand?

@@kidsafe you have a good point.....what you describe is called "breakaway", which a specific technic......now mine; top speed medium downhill is 50mph 1/2 full effort, 1/2 full effort up a steep hill 5 mph....full effort at 50mph x 2^1/3 = 63.0 mph.......full effort uphill = 5mph x 2^1/3)= 6.30mph.....every second at top speed gain = 13.0mph ....every second up hill gain = 1.30 mph, so after 1 hour my style will pull you ahead 13.0 - 1.3 = 11.7 miles ahead.....try it....its the tour de france and F1 CAR style , concentrate on the fastest part of the course ONLY!!

ah so youre the guy who stole all my koms

TCR Advanced Pro has a 1-1/4” steerer while the TCR Advanced has a 1-1/8”. Other than that the frames are the same.

@@kidsafe thanks for the info, that’s pretty frustrating unfortunately :(

I wanted to ask the same question lol

I'm also curious about it

The area doesn’t have much traffic. Jeff talked about it a while back. They do sometimes have issues, but most of the time it’s fine

not many people up there, it's mostly a dead office park and open space. it's close to cisco, some new google offices, samsung, wastewater management building, churches, etc. so apart from peak commute hours it's quiet

So you say congrats and then insult him...

Pros can still average 40-45kph on terrain like that. I've done 2/3/4 road races climbing 2000m in 70 miles averaging 42kph.

your fast, get off the MB, start racing road ride

@@lunam7249 😁i honestly would love to get a road bike but cant affort one and my mountain bike gets me everywhere i want so i think ill be fine for now, thank you for replying

Hmm, has it been 3 months? No. Listen to your doc, no one else.

@@simonjleclair cheers mate. I agree. Was just wondering what Jeff’s personal experience was since he had one of his plates removed and also bikes.

@@iani4860 I gotcha. As someone with hardware in my left collarbone I understand the frustration of not riding as well, but as a former ortho RN trust me that you don't want to turn your collarbone into dust and risk non-union or other complications. I recommend taking up walking or some gentle hiking and focus on enjoying the summer, maybe finding a new hobby such as photography. Hang in there, 3 months is nothing in return for a better healed clavicle.

@@simonjleclair after the plate was inserted a year ago, I was out doing rides eight weeks after. Am I right to think that even tho it’s been over a year, the plate being removed means that my collar bone is potentially in a more fragile state then last year at the same time because the screw holes need to fill in ..?

Get your center of mass as low as possible in high-speed, high-g corners by getting your upper body as close to the TT as you can. Look where you want to go, not where you are currently going. Initiate a countersteer by firmly pushing your inside hand forward on the bars...forward, not down. If you want, you can slightly brace your forearms against the drops. Stand on your outside leg to stabilize your body through the corner. The main thing I always notice with riders unable to keep with me on descents is they don't know how far they can actually lean. It's always farther than you think it is... until it isn't.

Handling is 90% inborn, Ritchie Porte ( pro rider) can't ride no hands

Best bike fit tip is don't change your fit for crits. Race what you train on