* For the 45 minutes: In 1911, the prussians decided, that 1 hour is too long for children to concentrate without pause. Since then, a school hour is 45 minutes (different types of school as driving school etc. followed). * For the appointments, I think they just calculate like 12 minutes (or 14 minutes or whatever) per client, so that gives you random times. * For the prices, that's standard everywhere, I think. Psychologywise, 9,99 € is cheaper than 10 €. * The Oktoberfest was advanced to September 1872 to take the opportunity of better weather * About nationality, I think new-zealand is the exception. For your kids, don't worry : They are germans if they want to. * Mesut Özil is a good example: I won't deny that in germany, there are racist people who never accepted him as a german due to the fact that he is muslim and has a turkish name. But in recent years, he made some big mistakes: You don't advertise for an autocratic turkish president if you want to be seen as a german.

If someone is a third-generation Turk, it doesn't mean that he considers himself a German. He may even be offended if you call him so. Especially people from muslim countries often keep their culture over generations, talk to their children in their traditional language and don't want that their daughters have a german boyfriend.

If you have German citizenship and you feel German, you're German. So you're daughter is German. Most 2nd and 3rd generation Turks I know personally don't feel German. They have both a German and a Turkish passport, but they feel Turkish. They marry and live within their community and to my experience they are more interested in what's going on in Turkey than in Germany.

I think the main thing about "are you German" is about traditions and culture. If you are immersed in German traditions and culture, you are generally considered German. But if you keep your traditions and culture (like most Turks do in my experience), you remain of that nationality. Many immigrants of neighboring countries isolate themselves or stick with people of their nationality, which is totally fine, if that is their choice, but that also means, that they aren't "absorbed" into German culture.

Most of the Turks consider themselves as Turks, Deutschtürken and only a very small minority of them Germans. Many of them would it even consider as offensive if you call them Germans and not Turks!

New Zealand and Germany don't compare in that sense. Germany arose out of a centuries spanning tradition of being the "lands of the German people" whereas New Zealand was simply a colony of the British Empire. There was no notion of being tied to any ethnicity.

The 45 min "educational hour" is very old and dates back to the Middle Ages. At the universities in the Middle Ages, the lecture started 15 min after the full clock, the so called "academical quarter hour". The time was necessary to allow the students to get into the building and their classroom after they heard the university clock tower ring the full hour. Until today, at German universities, lecture times are given "c.t." (cum tempore, with time), that means that the doors to the lecture hall open at the given time, but the actual lecture starts 15 min later. In the 19th century, this was introduced into the first German secondary schools, and in 1911, it became standard in Prussia, from where it spread into all other German countries. In Austria, the "educational hour" is 50 minutes long by the way.

45min Schulstunde - Untersuchungen belegten dass der 60-Minuten-Takt die Kinder müde macht und sie sich nicht mehr gut konzentrieren können. Forschende empfahlen daher kürzere Schulstunden so dass die Schulstunde nur noch 45 Minuten dauert Oktoberfest - weil im September das Wetter besser ist 😂

Oktoberfest originally started in October. On October 12th 1810, Prince Ludwig of Bavaria married Princess Therese of Saxe-Hildburghausen, and for that occasion, Oktoberfest was introduced, and it originally ended on October 12th. In later years, it was moved one week prior into September because of the better weather.

Since the nineteen sixties so called "Gastarbeiter" came from many countries to Germany. Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, Greeks and people from other countries like Yugoslavia (Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia) integrated so well that only their surnames reveal a foreign Abstammung. They became Germans. Polish people only startet to come here after the fall of the Berlin Wall - wich is a shorter period of time. Give them more time and they will integrate as the other groups! Turkish people are very often different. I think it has a lot to do with their religion and culture that goes with it. (They are no christians but muslims.) Many of them live here in their communities here, supervised by the other members and by the religious leaders they are very often not free to chose their clothing, friends, jobs or spouses. Especially women are often not - they can be dominated even by their brothers. (Unthinkable for native Germans!) These very traditional Turkish communities separate them from rhe rest of the German society - wich I find is a pity! As for their fluency in German language: The more they speak Turkish at home the more you hear a slight little accent. This way if speaking German is often called "Türkendeutsch" and can be heard in schools partly even by pupils with no Turkish family. Wich seperates those speakers from the majority of Germans. This is of course only an attempt to explain what you asked for. Of course it does not apply to all Turks, Germans, Polish or people from the other countries.

Growing up in the US my school hours were 43 minutes. It fit into the schedule so that the same busses could be used for high school kids, then elementary. Oktoberfest….because you are celebrating into and ending in October. A few years ago, when my son was in roughly grade 8, the subject came up of who is German. They discussed in ( lead by the students)the class who is only German? Out of 28 kids, two said they were fully German. Even though they were 90% born in Germany and more than half spoke a second language at home they realized that being German means nothing really. I happened to go to the Ausländeramt today to pick up my new Niederlassungserlaubnis , and walked out not feeling like an Ausländer. I could easily express myself, ask questions and understand the responses even making jokes. Then someone asked me for help with little German. They were nervous. I tried to help and hope I did and thought, I remember being in that situation. We are all just people.

Most of Turkish people would identify themselves as Turks even they are third generation in Germany. They still vote for the president in Turkey and so on....

Hm, that nationality question is complicated. I mean if I as a blond German would get a, let's say, Japanese citizenship - that wouldn't make me a "real" Japanese, would it? Of course I'd be a Japanese citizen then, but an ethnic Japanese? I don't think so.

Regarding Turks, Poles, etc.: TBH, that's a seriously complex matter. I agree that referring to someone as a Pole or as a Turk can be a hint to a xenophobic attitude. However, it can be a sign of respect for the cultural heritage of a person too. It really depends on the tone with which it is said. Please mind that Germans do the same thing with German regions. I've often been referred to as a / the Swabian in Badenia. It can be just friendly banter. It can also be real aversion sadly. The same thing is going on between Bavarians and Franconians. I think that this is actually a quite typically European thing because there are so many different peoples, languages and cultures so close together on our small continent. Some of the stereotypes can probably be traced back to ancient roman times I guess.

3rd generation Turks consider themselves Turks most of the time, not Germans. they hold German passports because it is an advantage - their loyalty, however ist with Turkey and Erdogan.

Regarding Mesut Özil: He acquired German citizenship in 2007, relinquishing his Turkish citizenship in the process. So of course an online encyclopedia will call him German, because by law he is. There are doubts however how German he actually feels given his apparent closeness with Turkish president Erdogan and the Turkish far-right militant organization "Grey Wolves".

I love videos like this because they make they make me see random things about my daily life that I've never thought of before.

I regard the issue about being German or not being German as something rather strange as well. I'm of German nationality because I was born in Germany, in Bavaria to be exact. But my parents are WWII fugitives from Bohemia and Selesia. I've got church records, births, marriages, deaths, etc, that date back to 1600. My ancestors were all mixed as I could tell by their surnames, some were German, others Czech or Polish. My family had nothing in common with Bavarian culture, neither have I until this day, I can't even understand some of the strong Bavarian dialects except for the Swabian spoken in the town and region where I live. At home we spoke "Schriftdeutsch", my mum could also speak Czech and Polish, but didn't pass these languages on to us children. Especially the food culture in my family derives from the countries of my parents' origin. We do not have that "Bayern Gen" as Bavaria's Head of State called it, especially not culturally or in respects to Bavarian traditions, which seem ever so strange to me. I don't think there is anything like "pure ethnicity" of any kind, maybe only in some rare remote places with no contact to the world outside. Not too long ago my 2 kids and I had a gene test done out of curiosity and it turned out that we were mainly Northwestern European and Eastern European with smaller percentages of Scandinavian and Baltic. And culturally I was also influenced by British culture as I grew up in Australia. But I am regarded as German although I've got a Czech surname. So I understand perfectly what you mean. Eventually it's the place of birth and the socialisation in that country that should count more than the ancestry from whatever place.

Ich lebe in einer Stadt mit vielen "Gastarbeiter-Familien" Diese Familien leben bereits in der dritten Generation in Deutschland, bezeichnen sich aber selbst als Türken, Russen, Polen, Italiener usw. Viele davon haben auch weiterhin ihren anderen Pass. Das liegt also nicht nur an den Deutschen, die diese Familien nicht als "deutsch" bezeichnen 🤷🏻‍♀️

Die Schulstunde ist in Deutschland deshalb nur 45 Minuten lang, weil es dazu schon früh wissenschaftliche Untersuchungen gab, wir lange sich Kinder konzentrieren können: Das Lernergebnis war nach 45 Minuten genauso groß, wie nach 60 Minuten. Ein Aufmerksamkeits-spannungs- bogen beträgt bei Kindern ca 15-20 Minuten. Man kann also 2-3 Unterrichtsinhalte pro Schulstunde vermitteln (inklusive der Übungszeiten). Die 45 Minuten Stunde ist also eine effizienzbasierte Erfindung.

On the occasion of the wedding of Crown Prince Ludwig of Bavaria and Princess Therese on October 12, 1810, numerous private and public celebrations took place in Munich, including a horse race on October 17. This is where Oktoberfest goes back to. Towards the end of the 19th century, Oktoberfest increasingly developed into the popular festival known all over the world. It was extended and brought forward to the last days of September, which were usually beautiful and warm due to the Indian summer. Since then, only the last weekend of the Oktoberfest falls in October.

At one point I had quite a lot of colleagues with Polish family names, descendants of Poles who had moved to the industrial areas of western Prussia (the "Ruhrgebiet") in the 19th century. Nobody considered them to be Poles ... because they had completely integrated and could not even speak Polish. Unlike many of the Turkish people living in Germany today, who are often not really integrated and often prefer speaking Turkish to speaking German. If they also practice the Muslim religion, that really sets them apart as well. Despite claims by a former German president, many Germans feel that Islam does *not* belong in Germany and dislike the religion. Just like the vast majority of Poles, Czechs, Slovaks and Hungarians (I've had work colleagues from there too, not descendants of former immigrants, but people living there now, and they all really disliked Islam and Muslims). One can understand why by taking a look at the current news and seeing the crimes committed in the name of that religion.

Oktoberfest has been starting in September from 1872 to take advantage of the warm late summer weather 🤗

There is simply a reason why school lessons last 45 minutes: studies showed as early as 1911 that a 60-minute cycle makes students more tired. And shorter hours were recommended. The Prussian Minister of Education implemented it. Side effect: The unpopular lessons in the afternoon could be eliminated because all lessons could take place in the morning. Oktoberfest: another big folk festival is actually in October. The free market in Bremen. It starts on Friday October 13th and runs until Sunday October 29th. After all, there are also over 1.5 million visitors. Ischaa Freimaak! Turks/Germans etc.: It can be even crazier. My uncle says that because I lived in Leipzig and Bautzen for 9 years, that I am no longer a real Farger. I asked him back for the names of his neighbors. He didn't know these. But even if I do, I'm a real Bremen on my mother's side. Two generations were born in Bremen before me. More specifically my mother and her mother. My mother's father came from East Prussia and also had some Polish ancestors. My father came from Hesse. And his father from Alsace. My identity as a Bremer is actually more important to me than my nationality.

Eine Minute umsonst zu warten bedeutet für Arzt und sein Personal ein enormer Verlust von Zeit, Geld und gute Laune - und deshalb legen wir Deutsche viel Wert auf pünktliches Erscheinen, nach dem allseits bekannt Motto "5 Minuten vor der Zeit - ist des Schülers Pünktlichkeit!" - Also wer auf die Minuten abgehetzt zu einem Termin kommt, der ist genau genommen schon 5 Minuten zu spät dran, denn der Respekt vor des Anderen Lebenszeit ist die erste Grundlage aller Höflichkeit!

The Oktoberfest originally *was* in October (because the first one was held to celebrate a royal wedding in October 1810), but they moved it to the middle of September in the late 19th century because the wetter is usually nicer at that time. That's all there is to it.

Hi Antoinette, thanks for the video. I'm fascinated by that question about a persons identity. Why? I'm a little bit affected by that too. My mother and her mother were born in Austria - hence I have Austrian ancestors. Or do I ? Due to the twists and turns of history my Swabian grandfather went to Austria for his professional education. However, at that time Austria was a part of Germany called Ostmark (and, yes, that annoyingly loud guy with the weird moustache was the leader of that Germany). So officially my mother was born in Germany - however in the part called Ostmark. Which illustrates that being German can mean a lot of things. After WWII, the western part of Austria, particularly Vorarlberg, was occupied by France. Just like the south-west of Germany. My mother and grandmother were living in Vorarlberg, my grandfather in Upper Swabia. So all were living in zones occupied by France. However, since the state of Austria had been restored by the allied forces, nobody of my family was allowed to cross the restored border between Germany and Austria for many months. After the restrictions were lifted the family reunited as much as circumstances were allowing. My grandfather had to complete his professional education in Germany. My grandmother was lucky to have a job in Liechtenstein. As a result I was growing up with a second home in Austria. I'm fully aware that it's a different country but I'm also so much used to it that on a personal level it's just as much home to me as the place in Germany where I grew up and went to school. For me personally I don't see a necessity to make a decision about my identity. It's just one with several facettes - actually there are more than a German and an Austrian one. If someone tries to pin me down to exactly one identity ... I think the best that I could provide is European. Not narrower than that.

On the reasons for the 45 minutes school lessons: Up until 1911 Germany hat 60 minutes school lessons. Then there was a study performed in Prussia (Zentralblatt für die gesamte Unterrichtsverwaltung in Preußen. Bd. 53, Nr. 10, 1911, ZDB-ID 201152-9, S. 528-529) that found out the 45 minutes are better than 60 minutes. I think, that it would be better to have even shorter lessons for the younger children. The older you get, the more likely it is that you have Doppelstunden (=90 minutes). This is especially useful for physical exercises. Also, why is 11:44 more random than 11:45? I don't get it.

It would be interesting to ask Turkish children if they think they are German.

The thrid generation turks germans call "türken" dont speak accent free german. They speak "deutschtürkisch" because they are not integrated. They live in their own comkunities and bash germans for being to "allman". They dont want to be indentified with germany and dont share the same values. Funnily though they are also considered germans in turkey. Those "gastarbeiter" established their own community and are proud of their ancestors nationality. Same goes for my wife. She was born and raised in germany but cant stand the rule abiding behaviors of germans and calls her self italian.

Oktoberfest was in October and got extended to the front. It still ends in October.

In France and the US there is so much patriotism towards the nation or republic that EVERYBODY who is a citizen identifies with the nation or republic. In Germany we have no patriotism at all towards our republic. So, if there is NOTHING you can identify with, people stick to their ethnicity. This is my explanation. American and french patriotism unites all ethnicities.... how could immigrants in Germany develop a sense of pride of Germany if even we Germans are not supposed to have one... Of course, your kids are German, and of course your new hairstyle is breathtaking.

All lessons in Germany are 45 min. The idea is 15 min break. Even at university the lessons where 45 min or double time 1.5h. Again: the idea is 30 min break. Sometime you'll need that break to reach one building from the other building. In reality breaks are shorter. For instance at my primary school (class 1-8) the schedule was - funny I still remember: 7:30 - 7:15 8:20 - 9:05 (only 5 min break to reach the next room) 9:15 - 10:00 10:15 - 11:00 (longer break for breakfast) 11:10 - 11:55 12:30 - 13:15 (lunch break) ... In university it was the same. In theorie each lesson starts at 7:00, 9:00, 11:00, 13:00 etc. But in practice the first starts at 7:30 and then the next starts at 9:05 if all students agreed.

hint for next year : 21.09.2024 - 06.10.2024 :-) The origin is a royal wedding on 12.10.1810, and thus it is the *_"Oktoberfest"_* which later was shifted a little to mostly be in september because of better weather.

Sometimes the beginning and end times are scheduled so the kids can get the city bus as schools in Germany do not have dedicated school buses...Atleast this is the way it is at the school where I work in Germany...We start at 7:20 am!! a crazy time but when the bus comes at 7:15 maybe that is the reason

I was in Germany for 2 years and learned my first year that Oktoberfest was in September because the weather is better in October.

When I was in secondary school in England our lessons were fifty minutes allowing ten minutes to get to the next lesson. My husband’s school though had lessons that were only thirty or thirty five minutes so that they could do more subjects in a day. To this day it varies a lot depending on what the school leaders want. Primary school sessions between breaks tend to be anywhere between forty five minutes and an hour and a half,but the teacher can split that session up how they want into several shorter lessons or use the whole session for projects and group activities.

With the shortened learning units, all subjects could be moved to the morning in 1911, and the children had the afternoon off. The 45-minute school hour has not changed to this day - 112 years later.

I know a lot of people with foreign background. Most of them are proud of it. They don‘t like to be called german because it would negotiate their ancestry. Others have german ancestors which moved to Kasachstan f.i. 200 or 300 years ago. They were called „Germans“ in Kasachstan and now they came back to Germany and are called Russian or Kasach. It‘s the feeling inside yourself what makes you become German. Have you ever met a German who is proud to be German?

Germans will call foreigners Germans if they look, speak und behave like Germans. For example: I'm half Turkish and half German and I look more German than Turkish. So for the Germans I'm German, too. If I would look more Turkish, they would call me a Turk. So simple. 🙂Most countries does it like this. You are one of them if you look like them.

Für mich ist ein Deutscher jemand, der sich als Deutscher fühlt (wie deine Tochter) und sich wie ein Deutscher verhält, also unsere Regeln und Werte achtet. Woher er oder seine Eltern ursprünglich kamen ist mir völlig egal. (Und NEIN, ich genter nicht. Das ist mir mit meinen 64 Jahren zu blöd.)

Having a lighter complexion and blue eyes helps a lot to be considered german. -.- I'm only half german and the other side is such a wild mixture (from Sweden to Turkey, from the near east to Spain, with a hint of Morocco), and yet I pass as german all the time. People feel safe to try to say stupid things in front of me, thats how german I am perceived. In my eyes my mother (whos the wild mix) acts more german than me. Sooo,.... I don't know. Its a difficult and strange topic because certain historical events that lead to how boundaries are presented today were never discussed in a way that could have helped to reset the poison that was spilled into the heads of so many people. There are books on this topic (like from Klemperer L.T.I.), but it seems impossible to implement what we could learn from them into our lifes.

The point with pure German is quite interesting. Because from ~ 17th century till end ~after WWII sometimes more, sometimes less parts of eastern Europe were part of predecessor state to what we call Germany today. There was even a time (before WWII) when Austria and a bit more was part of a so called "Deutscher Bund". From this standpoint I find it quite hard to define what is a real German or not. Quite interesting: My ancestors flew from Pommern to western Germany before the end of WWII and there is no Question about my German Heritage and no one even conciders me Polish.

Auch als deutscher wird man lange als Fremder angesehen, wenn man die Region wechselt. Lebe z.b. seit fast 40 Jahren in Berlin, für die meisten "echten" Berliner bin ich ein Bayer, weil ich in Franken geboren bin. Schöne Grüße übrigens.

Because of regional culture people here will quickly emphasize every little aspect of the respective family history. Sometimes it works in reverse too when non-German ethnic backgrounds like Polab, Sorb, Pomeranian or Prussian are referred to as German for irredentist purposes. Being German to me means to speak and behave the part, of course that becomes a bit more tricky when you add two or three additional identities on top that you also try to juggle at the same time.

Hi Antoinette, I always enjoy your channel, and your questions (and the answers of the people) are very interesting. With some answers I do agree, with others I don´t. About the "Oktoberfest": I read, that originally it was in October and they changed the period of time (because of the weather?) but people did stick to the name "Oktoberfest". About the nationalities: As you said, you come from a melting pot and it is difficult to compare New Zealand with Germany. If you compare Germany with other European countries, I think you´ll find out, that there is not such a difference between the countries. Liebe Grüße von der Schwäbischen Alb und Alles Gute! Wir lernen viel von Dir!🙂👋

I'm an Australian German and went to university here. What had me baffled ,at first, was the academic 15 minutes. So if a lecturer was scheduled for 11am it didn't start until 11.15. .

There used to be no dual citizenship so people had to give up their Turkish passport if they wanted to have a German one.

The Oktoberfest is a celebration INTO October. So it begins in early September and is celebrated until early October.

Das Oktoberfest war ursprünglich im Oktober. Aber aufgrund des besseren Wetters wurde es irgendwann in den September gelegt. Irgendwann im 19. Jahrhundert

Ein Beispiel zum Thema "Deutsch sein" : während meiner 2. Berufsausbildung hatte ich 3 türkischstämmige Mitschüler. Einer war so türkisch verwurzelt, dass er nach der Ausbildung wieder in die Türkei auswanderte. Seine Eltern blieben hier. Ein Anderer sah sich selbst der türkischen Kultur mehr verpflichtet, als der deutschen Kultur. Der Dritte sah sich als Deutscher, lebte die die deutsche Kultur, behielt aber seinen Glauben. Nur den Dritten, sah ich als Deutschen, obwohl ich mit den Dreien befreundet war.

45 Minuten sind für Kinder besser, weil sie sich noch nicht so lange konzentrieren können. In den höheren Klassen gibt es dann mehr Doppelstunden (90 Minuten). Ich habe noch nie in meinem Leben gehört, dass man um 11:44 einen Termin bekommt 😅 Das Oktoberfest fand ursprünglich tatsächlich im Oktober statt, wurde aber in den September verschoben, weil es im Oktober zu kalt ist. Preise sind oft so angegeben, damit das Produkt günstiger erscheint, z.B. 2,99 € da denkt man schnell, dass es nur 2 € kostet, obwohl es 3 € sind. Das ist in vielen Ländern so, nur bekommt man nicht überall das passende Wechselgeld zurück, weil auch in ein paar Ländern der EU keine 1 Cent oder 2 Cent Münzen mehr verbreitet sind. Die Frage der Ethnizität ist sehr schwierig und komplex. Ich glaube nicht, dass es eine deutsche Ethnizität überhaupt gibt. Dazu haben sich die Grenzen in Europa zu oft verschoben. Eine Nationalität gibt es natürlich, die steht im Ausweis. ❤

1. Never understood either... 2. "Wer den Pfennig nicht ehrt ist des Talers nicht wert!" (Who doesn't value the penny isn't worth the dollar.) 3. Because Oktoberfest ends in october (initially it was in october but was eventually preponed) 4. Because these people don't want to be called germans themselves (just ask them who their president is...) Sorry for generalizing... also this vary from people to people (i know dark skinned people being more german than some blonde blue eyed ones...) difficult topic...

there is an academic 15 minutes. basically every lesson at universities started 15 minutes after the full hour gong of the church clock. when hearing the clock people start walking to the class room and sometimes later thet start their lecture until the nexr full hour and the church gong. up to the next lecture which starts up to 15 minutes later. I think this tradition spread to the higher classes of gymnasium schools from university and established the 45 minute school hour.

If you go back a few decades the school started at 7:55, not 8:00. So you experience the "improved" version :D

The usual school hour is 45 minutes. The pauses are different. There are longer and shorter ones. So a cycle is nearly an hour but not equal. In university usually a lesson is 90 minutes. This is like two school hours.

Ich habe kürzlich zum ersten Mal einen solchen krummen Termin wie 11.43h bekommen, was ich auch seltsam fand. Es war eine Facharztpraxis in der sehr viele standardisierte Untersuchungen im engen Zeittakt vorgenommen wurden. Ich denke, die Termine werden von einem Computerprogramm vergeben. Die Deutschen tun viele merkwürdige Dinge, aber in diesem Falle ist das eher einer Automatisierung anzulasten. 😁😃

When I was at school in the UK our lessons lasted 35 minutes.

@andreaseufinger4422 has perfectly explained it! Just to add: most Turkish people (even if 2nd or 3rd generation actually identify as Turkish and many even hold a Turkish passport. I haven't seen many who actually identify as German. If they do, they are German in my eyes. @Antoinette Emily: I think you are wrong anout the fact that you need to be a "pure blood German" to be considered a German. My parents/grandparents and many before them, going back to the 16th century were not born in Germany, my ancestors di, however, leave Germany in the 16th century. But that is something I know, everybody else around me only knows that my parents/grandparents were not born in Germany, however, I am German to everybody. Then again my parents deliberately did NOT teach their children any other language than German, they only ever spoke German at home with us, because they did not want us to stick out. So that might have contributed a lot for us to feel German, and never having am identity crisis, or be anything but German to the people around us. It would have come in very handy - nowadays - to speak the four languages my parents were able to speak, but in the end my sister and I ended up still speaking 4 languages, but different ones than our parents - while my sister and I at least have 3 languages in common, but with our parents just 1. Maybe Franconians are a bit more narrow-minded than the part of Germany where I grew up, I don't know, but I cannot share your experience.

So true. Our Grundschule ends at 13:05 how random is that?? 😂

I was born and raised in Germany but my grandmother on my mothers side was born in Poland and my grandfather was born in Russia but both of them flew from their hometowns as kids because they lost their parents and somehow ended up in Germany at around 1940 , my grandfather lost his dialect completely but my grandmother didn’t so she always was asked where she’s from when we were out and she used to answer I’m from Germany but the second question would always be no no where are you really from ?

About Oktoberfest:Feli from Germany made a video about it or talked about the reason in a video😀

There are some regions in Germany where you have to live in 10. generation to be one of them. But mostly you are German when you got the citicenship + speek german + be integrated in german culture + like to be german. I knew a young man who was born and raised in Germany had a german passport and feel as an Palestinian. He did not want to be a German. Some Turks of the 3rd generation don't want to be German. Some want and be Germans.

I think it's the same with ethnic identity as with gender identity: when you feel yourself as a german, you are german. But it's happening too, that people have a german passport, but don't feel german. Perhaps we should accept all of this, because it's a very personal thing.

ich habe selber einen polnischen nachnamen , es hat nie einer pole zu mir gfun factesagt. kann das also nicht nachvollziehen evtl. kommt es auch drauf an wo man in deutschland lebt. fun fuct ich bin polnisch/niederländischer abstammung und wurde immer als deutscher angesehen.

Most 3rd generation Turks in Germany DON'T speak "accent free" German.

The same thing happened when people were fleeing during the war and looked down uppn

Of course your children are Germans! With the additional advantage of taking part in other cultures as well, that’s a great thing!☀️ Germany should be happy about cultural diversity, I think.

11:44 😂😂😂 that is hilarious I think it was a spelling mistake

It is not 100% clear why lesson time is 45 minutes, but it very definitely is one of those illogical ancients vestiges that has stuck in the German school system from its inception 200 years ago. One of the most common explanations is that it is modelled after monastic life (which used to be the main educational life for the longest time) and that the 45 minutes come from the monks and nund having to pray for 10 minutes every hour and needing 5 minutes to get to the chapel and back. Supposedly in france they wree allowed to pray on the spot, which is why a lesson is 50 minutes there. Many secondary schools counter the fact that these lessons tend to be quite short by always blocking two of them into 90 minute lessons. Phasing out the small coins can only be done when most transactions don't happen in cash. Otherwise it would basically mean taking away the freedom to have pricing that isn't in 10ct multiples. Some of the ways in which Germans see people with international history in their family is certainly problematic, but Germany isn't a country where everyone historically sees themselves as ultimately a person with international history. Of course, even that is a simplistic view on German history and migration in Europe (most peoples' families in Germany don't go back to where they live more than a few generations at best and Germany in the modern imagination wasn't even a unified country before 1870). Still, most US citizens and New Zealanders can't in any way reasonably tell themselves their family history goes back more than a few generations in the tradition and culture of where they live. So that awareness of kind of being an immigrant contributes to why in those countries people will find it easier to accept people who were born in the country as already a member of the culture and society. If you look at the world overall, it is actually the norm that people who have a more easily traceable migration history - particularly when this means not looking a certain stereotypical way or don't conform to the predominant culture- will be considered as not 100% belonging to the place by the majority. If Germany sticks out here, then it's because that issue is spoken about and discussed more than in many of those other places.

Medical appointments nowadays are negotiated by something which gets paid a banana per hour I guess: it is mostly starring at its smarter-than-its-owner-phone and is not able to plan time beforehand according to the peoples issues. When I grew up you hurried to not miss your appointment otherwise you could make a new appointment and the doctors were not amused. But nowadays you are lucky if you have your appointment at 9 o' clock in the morning, waiting since then and get called for the treatment 1 hour later in the best case. Hence I suggest to carry a bottle of water and a complete meal with you just in case... My personal experience rant to this topic.

Ich muss zugeben, ich werde im November 35, bin in Bayern geboren, war aber noch kein einziges Mal auf dem Oktoberfest 😳Ist das jetzt eine Bildungslücke? 🤭

Oktoberfest endet im Oktober, wie die Weihnachtszeit mit dem Weihnachtsfest endet.

lesson hours: I also find it very short, when booking or buying "one hour" for any lesson, and it is only 45 or 50 minutes (it is mostly called "Einheit" then, but ...). Schools don´t even always have the same time of begining and time for one Einheit. Cent coins: Because when they will be terminated everything will get more expensive again. That´s what it will be about. The prices will NOT go down, leaving the cent coins. They will again go up. So we do not support again mischievous inflation, as it was after starting the Euro (Teuro). Besides: I always have 1 cent coin in my wallet, as it is always asked for. Thats true. Oktoberfest: Maybe it was in Oktober some time ago and the weather was always bad and now it is on September? Ok, and now: Turks: the first thing a turk will throw in your face is, that he is a turk. they do not call themselves "Turkdeutsche" but "Deutschtürken". Do you sense the difference, which is absolutely on purpose. Yes, they are not seen as unproblematic from their behaviour. And insinuating that germans want "true blood lines" is - in my opinion - even mean and does not show good intentions. I had to watch several episodes of your channel before knowing that you are of lebanese descent. Which does not care for anyone and will not change my view of your channel. Why should it. But when turkish nationalism is the first thing yelled in my face, I feel free to find this good or not. (And as this video was recorded after the 7th of October 2023 everyone does witness how problematic the situation in Europe is and how dangerous for the Central Europeans and our freedom.)

First german born generation of a polish family here. I myself refered to me as pole for most of my life. The problem with this was that people made a difference. It was either my family not only saying that Im polish but also the others beeing the germans or germans making their pole jokes towards me (That I steal and whatever)… Today I consider myself a german and sometimes say otherwise, depending on the context. I think turks have the same problem + they have more people telling them that they dont belong here than what was the case when I was young. Both poles and turks once came in large numbers and therefore allowed for an us-them-environment. It takes time. Even east and west germans are not quite there yet. Today I think you are german if you say so and if you are willing to show a minimum of respect for how things are done here. Maybe learn the language also.

This is hard because you want your children to know about being polish and being from New Zealand . Culture and believes and other cultures want the same thing. But they are in Germany with that culture. So they learn most from where they grow up.

It's a German thing I guess. Although I was born in Berlin I am not allowed to call me a "waschechter Berliner" because man father was born in another city (Kiel). You need both parents to be born in Berlin to call yourself "waschecht".😂

Yes do not get Octoberfest in sept instead of oct

From what I heard it was hard for the first generation of immigrants from Turkey to integrate because people wanted them to be here to basically do the work they didn't want to do themselves but they didn't want to be friends with them. So those who came here were basically denied integration and their only social contact were people who also came from Turkey. That's basically where things developed from when it comes to the offsprings of immigrants from Turkey. I don't know why it is like that with other nationalities as well. If you ask me it's basically about bridges that should have been built ages ago but never were.

Its called "Oktoberfest" to celebrate the COMING October. And did you not mention in one of your vids that your husband has introduced himself to you as a Pole, which raised up in Germany?

I think your kids ate German. You try to integrate into German culture and you husband problably also does. And after all, Polish and English Empire culture is closer to the German one than Turkish with all the Islamic rules intergrated. Knew a girl with a polish grandmother. She is German, she was no difference to ther German girls. But look at Aishe, Fatma, Dilara and how they all are called. Hijab, bad German language skills, no German traits. Kemal Atatürk tried to modernise Turkey and seperate state and religion. But when you look at Turkey today, it failed. One reason why Turks and other Muslims fail to integrate they think they are on a culturell war when living in other countries.

I would say that your children are a bit of everything, German, Polish and New Zealand. Maybe Germany is the biggest influence as they grow up mostly with German children. Plus the cultural differences between the three countries aren´t that obvious, it is all more or less western culture. They should learn to value that they are a bit of everything, that their traditions are a bit more colourful and diverse. You don´t have to commit to one nationality, we all have different influences in our lives. It makes life much more interesting to adopt pieces of other cultures!

When I was in Germany as a tourist a decade and a half ago, most people did not bother to learn my name. I was just referred to as "the Icelander".

Wetter ist besser im September.

About nationality.. I don't want to defend this but maybe it is an explanation for you. You see this from a Kiwi's point of view. New Zealand is a very young nation, only about 200 years old. People often know where their ancestors came from and so on. In Germany most people's families have been here for hundreds or even thousands of years. Or at least for so long that they can't trace back their ancestry far enough to even know if they came from somewhere else. Compare this to 2 or 3 generations and you can see why immigrants and their descendants are still not called "Germans". Thats not neccessarily racism though I won't deny that there are some people like this.

I feel the ethnicity vs nationality thing is the same in the US. People proudly refer to themselves as "Italian" or "Irish" despite being many generations removed from that heritage. Then when they visit their supposed homelands they're naturally called "Americans". It is what it is... people like to put each other in boxes.

Well, the word "Volk" comes from tve (german) word "to follow", going back to the early times when tve Roman Empire went down. Everybody sho joined into the wandering group was a 'follower' and thus a part of the 'Volk'. That is something that does not at all fit into the ideology of certain people

Türkisch man has a Äther Habit.

Enjoyed this video

Immigrants to New Zealand are probably still strangers. How many speak Te Reo Māori? How many have adopted and maintain the culture of the people who lived there before 1642?

Neither "blood" nor the place of birth (or the passport) matter for being German or not. The very "German idea" is the idea of the connection between people with a common language and cultural roots. If your parents were Klaus and Lisa Müller from Hamburg and you were born in Germany but moved to the US at age 1 and grew up there, I would not consider you German. The other way around, moving to Germany and growing up there (assuming you got immersed in the culture and did not live completely in a foreign community with foreign schools etc.), I likely would consider you German. People who do not grew up in Germany are not that likely to adapt culture wise enough in their later life for me to consider them German. But, and I cannot stress that point enough, that is nothing more than a factual observation. It carries absolutely no valuation with it. It does not mean that I think they are lesser of a citizen of my country. They are just not part of my cultural group. There is nothing wrong with that. I don't even think they should strive for that. I myself as a German live in a different country. I will never be "one of them". I still will be distinctively German all my life. Nothing wrong with that, either.

Turks often don't call themselves Turks. If they still use Turkish first names for third and fourth generation children instead of German names why should we think they're German? You are not German because you have a German passport. You are German because you identify with Germany. As long as you cling to your ancestors home country and culture, you're not. Yes, if you have relatives in another country, it is perfectly o.k. to speak also (!) their language. But, you should speak German at home if you claim to be German...We, the Germans, are the indigenous people of Germany. If you don't adopt our language *and* culture you're not German -- despite your passport.

Until the late 1990ies, to be a German, you had to be born German (lex sangui). Getting German citizenship without being born to at least one German parent was quite complicated. Only in 1998, it was introduced that being born in Germany might entitle you to German citizenship. This was just 25 years ago, and many people older than 25 years have grown up with the notion that to be German, you had to be born to German parents. PS: I remember the Bavarian Ministerpräsident at the time opposing the law that gave citizenship to children born on German soil with the argument, that they are born to guest workers and are still guests, and then, he said the sentence "An integration must not happen."

Me as german have the same questions 😂

These 1-5 cents annoy me too!

Oktoberfest is a Bavarian thing. Bavarian ... that's the clue here ... don't even try to find any logic here.

Hello Antoinette, the question concerning "What and who is German" is a rather delicate issue in Germany. You have to look back into our (sometimes very dark) history to understand that what you have observed. According to our laws, you are a German Citizen when your PARENTS are German. Or at least ONE parent. This is in contadiction to 99% ol all other countries of the world, in most cases you are a citizen of a country if you were BORN there. This is the case in the USA and, as far as I know, in your home country New Zealand, too. This law leads to rather strange situations. If a German mother or father lives in New Zealand, Australia or enywhere else in the world, the kids have automatically German citizenship although they were born abroad. But on the other hand, if a Turkish or Arabic couple living in Germany, their kids DO NOT HAVE German citizenhip, they are Turkish - althought they were born here. This is a very strange understanding and this is reflected in these observations you had. So beeing "German" is purely a result of your DECENT, meaning of the nationality of your parents and of your "blood". This in my eyes rather weird and old-fashioned understanding can be traced back to the dark ages of National Socialism where the "blood an honour" concept was dominant in politics. Traces still can be found in our modern laws and in the attitude of the society. The laws of citizenship have been modernized in the recent years, but the basic principle is still the same. You cannot become a German only by birth, you have to be of German decent. Or of couse, you can get the citizenship by application if you want after 8 years of stay. The whole concept of "Pure German Blood" is total nonsense in my eyes of course because in reality, there is nothing like that. There are several DNA tests to clarify your decent, e.g. MYHERITAGE DNA oder ANCESTRY. I took such a test some years ago and it was most stunning. Although my family is "100% German" for more than 200 years, in my DNA I they found out that I have 29% English forefathers, 40% Scandinavian and the rest is mostly from the Middle East (Lebanon). I recommend such a test, it will open your eyes. The idea of a "pure race" is absolute nonsense and a weird idea of racist regimes of the past ... In today´s time it is normal that people live in other countries (as you do), thousands of Germans live in the USA, Australia and NZ. The question of decent should play no role any more. So I think there is absolutely no reason the regard ourselves as "superior", these are thoughts from dark ages. All people are equal ! Regards Rainer

Full hours would be not complicated enough.😊

Did you know that the term !german - germani! is actully thought to be a kind of insult of gaul - celtic term that they told the romans when they where asked who this other to the north and east are ? bad - not understanble speakers - like the word barbar. The latin speakers might have understood ger men . speer men. The slavic thougt the same. Ask you hb ;-). the term deutsch - teutsch aso. is refered to be : we-all-folks or we-all-same language . Ask a german in german what he is and you rarely hear germany - most will react based on your local german accent. They are/belong to a region or city or a language group. I am (Bavarian, Frisian aso.) .. I am from .. (Münster, Wespfalen - Dresden, Saxon ).

Who cares what other people think. Just live your life