Norman Finkelstein debates Hebron spokesperson on voting rights of Palestinians in Israel

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During a debate on Piers Morgan Uncensored on Tuesday, American political scientist Norman Finkelstein pressed the spokesperson for Hebron’s Jewish settler community, Yishai Fleisher, on whether he would accept Palestinians voting in Israeli elections after Fleisher argued that Israel should take over the occupied West Bank and Gaza and turn its current residents into Israeli citizens.
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@anwaralisayed9767
@anwaralisayed9767 29 күн бұрын
"A settlers vision for the future of Israel" let that sink in.
@Totajee79
@Totajee79 29 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@stunns2003
@stunns2003 29 күн бұрын
Yes, I caught that sophistry as well. Might as well have called it a ‘Colonial’s Vision’ or an ‘Oppressor’s Vision’
@Libyan_anti_genocidele
@Libyan_anti_genocidele 29 күн бұрын
It's almost if they're making a parody or something
@Lance-Oakland
@Lance-Oakland 29 күн бұрын
They are arrogant criminals.
@jchan9761
@jchan9761 29 күн бұрын
If native americans can have US voting rights and citizenship, why cannot Palestinians have israeli voting rights and citizenship? Answer: Isreal is a racist project.
@ascase
@ascase 29 күн бұрын
So 5 options and none of them gives the Palestinians equal rights 🤔
@globalist1990
@globalist1990 29 күн бұрын
And when he finally admits he disagrees with one person, one vote, piers then asks him to stop talking. Damage control.
@jimbob3030
@jimbob3030 29 күн бұрын
Well of course, can't have a jewish state with a palestinian majority so they're obviously never going to allow that. So apartheid or EC or gee cide, maybe they will hold a vote as the only democracy in the middle east?
@djpaulcfunkeddub3951
@djpaulcfunkeddub3951 29 күн бұрын
@@globalist1990 LOL
@funtimefoxy6699
@funtimefoxy6699 29 күн бұрын
Palestinians are given the rights they deserve. Gaza was handed over to the PA on a silver platter - and they shit all over that platter.
@mohamedismail2485
@mohamedismail2485 29 күн бұрын
The "so called" Palestinians according to the zionist coward!
@FayesFood
@FayesFood 29 күн бұрын
"so-called Palestinians"...that guy is disgusting.
@emilymorton6510
@emilymorton6510 29 күн бұрын
It's so called Israel to be factually correct. It's existence is blasphemous and is opposed to Judaism.
@jamesthompson9003
@jamesthompson9003 29 күн бұрын
That's just a name that the Romans referred to the people of the Levant as - so there was literally no such thing as 'Palestinians' before ancient European colonizers called the region that. Also you can find no shortage of people in this comment section alone who would say that Israel is an illegitimate state and there are no such thing as 'Israelis'. These are all just arbitrary names of made-up nations (as all nations are) - nobody is denying the existence of ethnic-Arabs and ethnic-Jews
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 29 күн бұрын
Mind Begs the Question: - Dehumanizing a group of people as Rats is Fascist - Dehumanizing a group of people as Human Animals is Not Fascist?
@inctimber
@inctimber 29 күн бұрын
They say this because Israel is truly just recently a made up thing that has no legitimacy, so they try to project
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 29 күн бұрын
They also like to call palestinians living in Israel as Arab Israelis in order to remove their Palestinian heritage.
@Anigmama
@Anigmama 29 күн бұрын
Yishai Fleisher was born in Haifa to Soviet parents and grew up in the U.S. But denies the existence of Palestinians and feels he has more rights than Arabs who have lived in the region for generations?
@jimbohouston
@jimbohouston 29 күн бұрын
We call that 'chutzpah'
@yomismo6969
@yomismo6969 29 күн бұрын
So he was from another country far away from that land called israel and he can be a citizen of that land. But a palestinian that was born in that land and was expelled from it can't be a citizen of that land? Morgan really tried to do damage control.
@gnostic268
@gnostic268 29 күн бұрын
Settlers are always like that. Obnoxious and entitled as hell. B.S. machines
@Tabish29
@Tabish29 29 күн бұрын
​@@jimbohoustonlooks like "we" have zero shame
@michaelfisher1537
@michaelfisher1537 29 күн бұрын
we Jews go back 3700 years
@magdalenegoodwill5878
@magdalenegoodwill5878 29 күн бұрын
This guy is gaslighting people. Manipulation at its best. Well done again for showing his true colours. Norman is the best.
@jchan9761
@jchan9761 29 күн бұрын
He has a channel on YT and it is filled with his lies.
@shelbeg7228
@shelbeg7228 29 күн бұрын
I think all their spokespeople are trained in it. They all follow they same script.
@optimus2g
@optimus2g 29 күн бұрын
All they do is lie.
@michaelfisher1537
@michaelfisher1537 29 күн бұрын
self hating Jew - he disgusts me with his lies
@user-rd7ek9ve3r
@user-rd7ek9ve3r 29 күн бұрын
Conman, smiling and avoiding the question. Like most politicians. No integrity or humility. Normans honestly, clarity and lack of word salad stands out.
@Thearvdr
@Thearvdr 29 күн бұрын
That man has the audacity to tell that Palestinian home is Jordan.A bold face liar .
@michaelfisher1537
@michaelfisher1537 29 күн бұрын
Jordan is palestinian home
@Ntuthu-ZA
@Ntuthu-ZA 29 күн бұрын
@@michaelfisher1537 and Poland, Russia etc?
@lizbethartemis4886
@lizbethartemis4886 29 күн бұрын
great story tellers 😂😂
@JojoJoget
@JojoJoget 29 күн бұрын
@@lunarvvolf9606 you can say the same about Americans with dual citizenships, worse actually, Israelis could become politicians and run US politics, like how Blinken does
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He is right. Many came from Jordan and Egypt and Lebanon and Syria
@tachikoma7757
@tachikoma7757 29 күн бұрын
Dr. Norman saw through the twisted snakes ruse. Bravo!
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 29 күн бұрын
Mind Begs the Question: - If a Govt stage WMD Hoax - Govt can't stage Terrorist Attack - To manufacture justification,consent - For Ethnic Cleansing,Total Occupation?
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 29 күн бұрын
He was smirking at the end there when this Yishai guy can only say "I accept that that is something to be discussed". Can see through his bs.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Norman is a disgraceful liar
@akmal94ibrahim
@akmal94ibrahim 29 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler and what are the lies?
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
@@akmal94ibrahim he called Hamas resistance fighters and oppressed people who have a right to kill Israelis. He called Yishai a war criminal for living in his own land.
@user-do1ej9ub4n
@user-do1ej9ub4n 29 күн бұрын
imagine being proud of authoring an article titled "A settlers vision for the future of Israel". it doesnt get more evil
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He isn't evil
@feralmode
@feralmode 29 күн бұрын
and the new york times goes ahead and publishes it as if it's some cute taylor swift lyrics and not a genocidal manifesto.
@feralmode
@feralmode 29 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler yes he is. ok maybe he isn't evil but his actions are. maybe he's just insane.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
@@feralmode Yes Norman is evil. Called this man a war criminal for living in his own land. Shameful
@feralmode
@feralmode 29 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler wow. you guys are special. he called him a war criminal because he stole the land from other people. this is against international law, my friend. although i'm sure you'll try to claim some 2000 year old book says the land is his.
@TheGaz981
@TheGaz981 29 күн бұрын
Vote next door, but live subjugated by my occupier in my own home. Laughable.
@fredflinstone6601
@fredflinstone6601 29 күн бұрын
If Palestinians accept, in a few years they would be ethnically cleansed with the excuse that they’re citizens of Jordan. These “people “ are scom, and few are falling for their scheming/lying shite anymore. Israelie!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Israel isn't an occupier. It is their land
@fredflinstone6601
@fredflinstone6601 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler lol!
@czarkusa2018
@czarkusa2018 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler I'm on my way to "not occupy" your house :)
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 28 күн бұрын
@@czarkusa2018 nothing is being occupied
@mmm-mq3zr
@mmm-mq3zr 29 күн бұрын
One side is calm, cool and collected... The other side is boisterous, nervous and interrupting. Tell you all you need to know...
@kathycollett4318
@kathycollett4318 29 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@Cynthia_5479
@Cynthia_5479 29 күн бұрын
lol I would’ve called him “the other guest” too, I love Norman so much he wasn’t even trying to slam him but he absolutely did .
@spamfilter32
@spamfilter32 29 күн бұрын
Norman is known to throw shade like that actually. I give him props for it. Norm was subtly letting the audience know that the other guests ideas are as worthy of being remembered as his name is.
@taherabunama4559
@taherabunama4559 29 күн бұрын
💯
@joansbeef4035
@joansbeef4035 29 күн бұрын
Games played by ficklenormanston are quite insane, hopefully it's real games and not senile.
@beebeemo
@beebeemo 29 күн бұрын
@@joansbeef4035no, you’re either too brainwashed, too evil, too delusional, or too dumb to understand… or a combination of those things, which is more likely.
@spamfilter32
@spamfilter32 29 күн бұрын
@joansbeef4035 hello Nazi.
@user-ln2cj1ig5h
@user-ln2cj1ig5h 29 күн бұрын
Free Palestine 🇵🇸
@pacmanmcgavin7034
@pacmanmcgavin7034 29 күн бұрын
It was free...
@user-ln2cj1ig5h
@user-ln2cj1ig5h 29 күн бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 people turned a blind eye when the holocaust was happening.. knowing the truth.. pretending it wasn’t happening.. never again to anyone
@user-ln2cj1ig5h
@user-ln2cj1ig5h 29 күн бұрын
@@pacmanmcgavin7034 I suggest you watch Tantura it’s a Israeli documentary… denying the truth will get you nowhere. Eventually, truth comes out.
@geraltofrivia9424
@geraltofrivia9424 29 күн бұрын
​@@pacmanmcgavin7034And now it is not
@edosandzo
@edosandzo 29 күн бұрын
​@@pacmanmcgavin7034 And it will be free again God willing!
@NobuhikuObayashi
@NobuhikuObayashi 29 күн бұрын
lol I would’ve called him “the other guest” too, I love Norman so much he wasn’t even trying to slam him but he absolutely did 😂
@miriamschiro8585
@miriamschiro8585 29 күн бұрын
Exactly 😂 He did slam him in the manner of possessing the three C’s cool calm and collective 😁 The other quest was extremely defensive as all Zionist are with their disgusting idiocy
@ascase
@ascase 29 күн бұрын
It was either "the other guest" or "Mr. Fisherprice"
@spamfilter32
@spamfilter32 29 күн бұрын
No, Norm was throwing shade deliberately. He was letting the audience know that the "other gueats" ideas are as worthy of being remembered as his name is.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Norman is a liar
@spamfilter32
@spamfilter32 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler no, that's just you.
@PSP18128
@PSP18128 29 күн бұрын
Norman You nailed it again bravo!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Nope. He lied
@PSP18128
@PSP18128 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler ok hasbara bot who has no father-figure who is part of the sU!c!d3 squad
@Randomfoibles
@Randomfoibles 29 күн бұрын
Let them speak and they will show you who they are.
@fazilm1
@fazilm1 29 күн бұрын
What a crock of $h!t. Vote in Jordan but residents here? Here in Israel or Occupied Palestine? He actually referred to Jordan as Palestinian Jordan their country? Why not let them become citizens of Israel with equal voting rights as Norman said? This guy's line is not a serious argument. And he actually wrote this in the new York times and proud of it. What were the editors thinking of. But then again it is the New York Times...what do you expect?
@Mailrobot
@Mailrobot 29 күн бұрын
NYT is financed by the Israeli lobby
@joansbeef4035
@joansbeef4035 29 күн бұрын
Baby steps lads, small victory one thing at a time. For example, the immigrants first moved into Germany, lived there for years, reproduce and populate, build a stronghold, and now demand for shariah law and rights. It's all about the strat, we islam know da way. Free palestine, we will rule the world.
@BamBamGT1
@BamBamGT1 29 күн бұрын
Psst. Everyone in the West Bank had the Jordanian nationality untill 1988, well beyond 1967. It was only then that Jordan revoked their Jordanian nationality under pressure from the Arab League and handed over the authority to the PLO. That's when Jordanian citizens became the stateless Palestinians overnight.
@lizbethartemis4886
@lizbethartemis4886 29 күн бұрын
Yisrael took land from Jordan during 6 day war.
@fazilm1
@fazilm1 29 күн бұрын
@BamBamGT1 nonsense. The west bank and east Jerusalem were "administered" by Jordan and the Gaza strip by Egypt. They were not Jordanian citizens. Go back and read the Balfour declaration and the British mandate. Israel was given statehood in the UN but not the remaining territories in which the Arab Palestinians lived. But they were there long before Europe jews arrived.
@jonuzmiftari8112
@jonuzmiftari8112 29 күн бұрын
He said "the so called Palestinians”. In other words Palestinians dont exist for him
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
They don't. They are called arabs
@aliragh
@aliragh 28 күн бұрын
Israeli's are a 20th century made up identity. These people are in fact, Ukrainians, Polish, Americans, Australians, Canadians, English, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Moroccans, Iranians, Iraqi's, Saudi's, Indie's, Russians, Hungarians, Austrians, Italians, Greeks, Romanians, Mexicans, Brazilians, Nigerians, Ethiopians, Algerians, Libyans, Sudanese, Egyptians, Kenyans, South Africans and likely a whole lot bigger list of people from around the globe with a shared religious affinity. It is a fact that so called Israeli's are no more than migrants, settlers, invaders, colonizers, what ever name you wish to label them as, but anything but indigenous or native for the most part. Palestinian Israeli's ofc are native to the lands whether Jewish, Muslim or Christian. But all those that migrated to these lands during the 20th century have little to absolutely no historical connection to these lands. A religious connection sure, but not a genetic one. That belief is a farce, a joke, a ruse, a distraction all meant to politically gain support from fools or otherwise make people turn away from the actual truth of what Israel really is all about. Hint: Colonization, geopolitical power and political influence.
@eypu999
@eypu999 25 күн бұрын
Of course they don’t 😂 As most Zios believe
@Donttouchme22387
@Donttouchme22387 29 күн бұрын
I love how Norman calls their bs all the time
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Norman is lying as usual
@Donttouchme22387
@Donttouchme22387 27 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler u would know something about that clearly
@james123783
@james123783 29 күн бұрын
He outright says that he doesn't like the idea of everyone having a vote. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the only "democratic" country in the Middle East.
@DavidBrodie-gm2gh
@DavidBrodie-gm2gh 7 күн бұрын
You can’t let them vote if they will vote to kill the Israelis. Look at how many Jews were kicked out of Muslim countries in the past 100 years
@waqmanime
@waqmanime 29 күн бұрын
He doesnt accept there is only genocide. No that is the approach they are taking.
@globalist1990
@globalist1990 29 күн бұрын
@@tafferskithe ratio is one "military personnel" to 9 civilians. Btw, palestine has no army. They're civilian insurgents.
@tafferski
@tafferski 29 күн бұрын
@@globalist1990 No, it's 4:1, at worse. And now that it had been found that the number of dead is actually lower than we thought it is, the ratio is probably around 2:1.
@VDOless
@VDOless 29 күн бұрын
​@tafferski tell me, what really happens to you if you guys finally admit that it's a genocide?
@mariahewitt9787
@mariahewitt9787 29 күн бұрын
​@@tafferski Hasbara is Not Cutting it...
@tafferski
@tafferski 29 күн бұрын
​@@globalist1990 It's 4:1 at worse, and now that it had been found that the number of dead is actually lower than speculated, it's probably around 2:1.
@lovemamahouse
@lovemamahouse 29 күн бұрын
I like how Norman talks.
@Citizen052
@Citizen052 29 күн бұрын
you cannot bullshit him
@crunkalac
@crunkalac 29 күн бұрын
God forbid anyone takes time to think about what they're saying too. Such a faux pas.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He is a liar
@johnsmith1474
@johnsmith1474 29 күн бұрын
Yes a lovely voice, so easy to listen to, so smooth.
@redacted3740
@redacted3740 25 күн бұрын
​@@alizakessler Maybe you're just too stupid to understand what he's actually saying
@ahmmustafakamal696
@ahmmustafakamal696 29 күн бұрын
The other person who is debating Norman was so insignificant that he has to tell time and time that his name is …..
@SamuraiKage-iv3ow
@SamuraiKage-iv3ow 29 күн бұрын
Yushi? Yuki? Yoyos? 😅😂
@riverside471
@riverside471 29 күн бұрын
@@SamuraiKage-iv3ow Mr Morelli?
@johnnylabu765
@johnnylabu765 29 күн бұрын
is tat the dildo rabbi guy?
@LaicheeKang-rk7sy
@LaicheeKang-rk7sy 29 күн бұрын
You mean Mr Burnell
@riverside471
@riverside471 29 күн бұрын
@@LaicheeKang-rk7sy Mr Binnelli.
@timkbirchico8542
@timkbirchico8542 29 күн бұрын
Norman speaks the truth clearly and fearlessly. Well done Mr. Finkelstein.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He speaks lies
@timkbirchico8542
@timkbirchico8542 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler So, you are a Zionist?
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 28 күн бұрын
@@timkbirchico8542 proud zionist
@timkbirchico8542
@timkbirchico8542 27 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler Hi, we can all see the nature of zionism expressed by members of the Knesset, Netanyahu, the military and the Israeli media. And of course the ICJ Prima Facie case accusation of genocide in Gaza. It is time for you to re assess your proud zionism. The rest of the world is against zionism. Zionism sets itself aside from the goyim, therefore it is exclusive. That is racism defined. You probably have a good heart but have been misled into the wrong headedness of zionism. Peace to you Aliza
@shovanbijoy7136
@shovanbijoy7136 26 күн бұрын
​@@alizakesslerproud racist huh
@StHat20
@StHat20 29 күн бұрын
This Israeli guy spun what Norman was saying. Norman never said that genocide was the only option. I find whenever I listen to a pro Israeli they speak quickly, spin the other persons’ comments and don’t answer the other persons comments.
@MaryLou5239
@MaryLou5239 29 күн бұрын
I agree 💯
@HolocaustShmolocaust
@HolocaustShmolocaust 29 күн бұрын
Conmen and street criminals speak like that.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Norman is a sick liar
@dominozonda
@dominozonda 27 күн бұрын
They are really manipulative with no morals Just trying to manipulate the audience and silence the other guest by continuously interrupting them
@mohamedismail2485
@mohamedismail2485 29 күн бұрын
"so called" Palestinians??? WOW!!!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Yup. They were called Arabs before 1948
@aibdraco01
@aibdraco01 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler If I'm X, I won't want anyone to call me Y. Period!!!
@eypu999
@eypu999 25 күн бұрын
⁠​⁠@@alizakessler Ppl can have 2 identities 😮 one is ethnicity one is a nation identity. The Palestinian Citizenship Order 1925 was a law of Mandatory Palestine that created a Palestinian citizenship for residents of the territory of Palestine Mandate.
@beretta0222
@beretta0222 29 күн бұрын
"A settlers vision for the future of Israel" Is this guy serious??
@alexandermurray1680
@alexandermurray1680 29 күн бұрын
I am afraid he is. And a nut.
@zainvvallee3966
@zainvvallee3966 29 күн бұрын
These settlers don't believe in Equal rights.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He isn't a settler. It is his land.
@zainvvallee3966
@zainvvallee3966 28 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler He says he is a Settler
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 28 күн бұрын
@@zainvvallee3966 he is not a settler in his own land
@zainvvallee3966
@zainvvallee3966 26 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler how most of the came from Europe
@erifkind
@erifkind 29 күн бұрын
Debating a Zionist is pointless. It’s like trying to teach a cat to play chess.
@Truthorfib
@Truthorfib 29 күн бұрын
Dude doesnt even live there (Parents are from the Soviet Union and Grew up in the states) and is basically doing what the Europeans did to the natives of America, Australia, and Canada.
@Tabish29
@Tabish29 29 күн бұрын
A cat will one day play chess. A zio will go on till their last days lying and being victims.
@jimmybones4708
@jimmybones4708 29 күн бұрын
​@@Tabish29Most Americans I think like 87% don't even know what a Zionist is. There still trying to name the VP.
@4everVone
@4everVone 29 күн бұрын
Exactly!!! They are all narcists and are always shouting thruw their debates...
@ibrahimkhalilrazu9653
@ibrahimkhalilrazu9653 29 күн бұрын
So true! You can’t teach math to a dinkey
@alabiabdulwasiu6156
@alabiabdulwasiu6156 29 күн бұрын
Just for those who might not get the question asked by Norman or it's implications and why Yisai avoided it like a plague is that if he agreed - which of course he and other Israelis will never agree to - then Israel will become the minority while Palestinians will become the majority hence becoming the ruler/government since the deal in the question is that "one man, one vote". Check how Norman smile almost at the end of the video. Cos if the Israeli society will really want such, then their won't be a need for committing genocide in the first place. Always love Norman for being a thousand steps ahead of those Zionist.😂😂😂😂
@SeanCrosser
@SeanCrosser 29 күн бұрын
They need to maintain and uphold demographic majority so that they can keep Israel as an ethnostate.
@edwickford2377
@edwickford2377 29 күн бұрын
I don't get it ; why should Israel allow people who wish to rid the world of Jews become a majority in their country ?
@entahlah88
@entahlah88 28 күн бұрын
He knows Norman asking the right question, and he's losing the argument , trying his best to make Norman look like a fool by his fake positive acting.. but Norman already checkmate him up, hahaha
@edwickford2377
@edwickford2377 28 күн бұрын
I see what you are saying, so effectively Hamas will become the new government and will then carry on with their aim of riding the world of Jews , including Norman. No wonder, he was asking that !
@alabiabdulwasiu6156
@alabiabdulwasiu6156 28 күн бұрын
@@edwickford2377 A quick one, please define "world of Jews"?
@retrofedora7061
@retrofedora7061 29 күн бұрын
"A settler vision for the future i3roel ". Well atleast he realizes they are "settler" & not the indigenous. The way "the other guest" tried to gaslight, twisting Norman's word & running from the question is so repugnant.
@peacekeeper9496
@peacekeeper9496 29 күн бұрын
Did he just say...be a citizen of Israel but vote in Jordan? 🤣 Is this guy out of his mind????
@msaadah1223
@msaadah1223 29 күн бұрын
Living in Israel as "residents" and only given voting rights for a completely different country. What the actual fuck
@alwayzurboy
@alwayzurboy 29 күн бұрын
He set a trap and let him tell on himself. Masterful.
@VTFWTF
@VTFWTF 29 күн бұрын
The guests who isn't Norman admitted that he does not want the palestinians to have the right to vote.
@user-ti2kb8ho4z
@user-ti2kb8ho4z 29 күн бұрын
Yes, my dear brothers, my beloved Palestine is the cradle of Christianity and Judaism, and it contains Al-Aqsa, the third holiest place for us Muslims in Palestine. Bethlehem, the cradle of Christ, is a blessed land, and it is the holy land, and it has been our land for tens of thousands of years, and it is the land of the Canaanite Arabs, the original Palestinian people, and they have lived in it since the Islamic conquest in the era. The Umayyad, Abbasid and Ottoman Arabs, Muslims, Christians and Jews are like brothers and neighbors under Palestinian rule to the owners of the land, but the Zionists came and the British occupation brought them to our land as compensation to the Jews for what they did to them Hitler. The question here is that who did the Holocaust, the Germans, why do I, the Palestinian Arab, pay the price? Why not Germany? Why do I, the Muslim, pay the price for crimes? Committed by the Germans and Nazi Europe, fascism is the root of all evil in the world. Our problem is the occupation💚❤️💚🇵🇸☝️
@robertoaguadogarcia3600
@robertoaguadogarcia3600 29 күн бұрын
Careful. When you go that back in history you play their game. They will tell you they had Hebron 3500 years ago, and so they can expand Jewish neighbourhoods where Palestinians end up being forced out one way or another. Same with the villages. But current international law is not about that. History does not give anyone the right to expel someone from a house that has inherited from their parents. And this goes both ways -- with many settlements you should make "tabula rasa", in line with what Olmert proposed, even if those settlements were illegal two decades ago. The thing is that this madness must stop, even though both the majority of Israelis and the majority of Palestinians disagree. Recognize current settlements, OK, but stop at once, make IDF disengage from the West Bank, strictly forbid future settlements, and recognize the Palestinian State as well!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
There is no Palestine and that mosque is built on the ruins of 2 Temples
@Ryka_Mac
@Ryka_Mac 29 күн бұрын
Yishai, what a weirdo, like a gaslighting salesman.
@bliss448
@bliss448 29 күн бұрын
A genocide by any other name is still a genocide.
@ahmeda.3198
@ahmeda.3198 29 күн бұрын
By the way, on the B’Tselem channel is a video of ‘settlers’ from Hebron who look like cavemen, and one of them is literally clubbing a group of women for daring to hike on the hills of Hebron, which is outside of Israel’s official borders.
@Seanomarachain
@Seanomarachain 29 күн бұрын
So funny, vote in Canada...
@calicocat8213
@calicocat8213 29 күн бұрын
Very fitting comparison .
@stunns2003
@stunns2003 29 күн бұрын
The Zionists and Settlers have clearly lost the argument. “A Settler’s Vision”……..? They’re not even concealing it anymore.
@BamBamGT1
@BamBamGT1 29 күн бұрын
@@calicocat8213 It would help if you knew history. Jordan was actually a part of the mandate for Palestine untill 1946. The people in the West Bank had the Jordanian nationality untill 1988, 2 decades beyond 1967. The state of Palestine and "Palestinian people" are fairly recent developments in history.
@caspar_gomez
@caspar_gomez 29 күн бұрын
​@@BamBamGT1doesnt matter if the palestinians don't live in jordan why would they benefit from voting there
@lycan3868
@lycan3868 25 күн бұрын
@@BamBamGT1 well actualy the jewish people who came from europe before the 1948 had a palestinian passport and identity, so you saying the "Palestinian people are fairly recent developments in history" is just a lie to make the people who have no idea about the conflict believe that there was no country in that region before the establishement of the israeli state just like the phrase that the zionists used "A land without a people for a people without a land" to justify the colonization in the mid 19's which is not true. palestine have been there before the creation of israel, the balfour declaration itself that was the cause of the creation of israel literally stated the establishement of jewish state in palestine and here is the quote: "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine". so you better get educated before commenting such things cuz you are just embarassing yourself, that's assuming that you don't know the truth and you weren't just lying on purpose. PS: you can check the internet for every information i stated in this comment ^^
@amylolxox
@amylolxox 29 күн бұрын
0:45 dont be fooled they are treated as second class citizens its been debuked by people who live there sharing their stories and by second class I mean really and this is putting it in easy words
@caspar_gomez
@caspar_gomez 29 күн бұрын
Yes, it really gets tiring having to listen to tjem spin it, like trying to claim black people had no need for a civil rights movement after slavery
@amylolxox
@amylolxox 25 күн бұрын
@@caspar_gomez thats the point!!!! these rights were not given but it was with protests like this and george flloyd 2020!!!! There are protests now in Congo and other african countries against French and British and US imperialism. So did they leave????? NO these protests are now and not 200 years after slavery ended or when segregation ended this is going on right now. 2024. It ties directly to this. the army bases are still there and they wont leave. If protestors make them leave they will be labelled as criminals. Same with palestinne the people were still in cages before october they were not free and the occupation was still going on everyday for 78 years. Alot of children just ended up born inside the prison walls. They were innocent and inside why? the UN said years ago there was not enough food. To keep them weak food was limited. WTF the same thing happened in South Africa.
@amylolxox
@amylolxox 22 күн бұрын
Ikr 😠
@kenzieworld197
@kenzieworld197 29 күн бұрын
Notice he never answered the question just rambled on and on
@wolfiesown
@wolfiesown 29 күн бұрын
‘We can discuss it”. Apparently civil rights & equality are negotiable
@arthurfrost9004
@arthurfrost9004 29 күн бұрын
A settlers vision for the future of Israel? is this a joke, because it wasn't funny.
@alexandermurray1680
@alexandermurray1680 29 күн бұрын
I am afraid he was serious
29 күн бұрын
All tespect for the brilliant and courageous Professor Finkelstein. 💞
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
More like a liar
@tens0r884
@tens0r884 29 күн бұрын
Imagine not being able to answer "Yes" to "one person one vote" while simultaneously calling yourself "the only democracy in the middle east". its baffling
@wesselbindt
@wesselbindt 29 күн бұрын
Norman Finkelstein is a force of nature. Good god I'm so happy he's on the right side of history
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He is on the wrong side of history.
@paulflute
@paulflute 29 күн бұрын
so finally he spoke his truth.. "I DON'T LIKE THAT PROPOSAL" .. of all people of a given area being able to vote.. so that's clear.. and we have a name for that already.. it's called Apartheid..
@mohamedismail2485
@mohamedismail2485 29 күн бұрын
The term "settlers" was being thrown around to give the impression that those East European invaders were merely innocent migrants trying to "settle" on an empty land!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Jews are not settlers in their ownland
@MehmetUzman
@MehmetUzman 29 күн бұрын
Norman Finkelstein has a place in million's hearts
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
A liar
@newonevery740
@newonevery740 29 күн бұрын
He clearly refused Norman's solution
@jimbohouston
@jimbohouston 29 күн бұрын
It's actually not a reasonable solution. The majority of Israeli citizens are committed zionists and they want a jewish state. The only option is to cut off all aid to Israel and let them duke it out into perpetuity. Or, more likely, that the state of Israel will simply rupture and collapse and will get replaced by a Palestinian Government.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Because Norman is a liar
@newonevery740
@newonevery740 26 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler naaaah he is a G
@davidpate3859
@davidpate3859 29 күн бұрын
“God is not a real estate agency and never promised land for Nazis who have cowardly killed thousands of Palestinian children and women for over 75 years of occupation” ~ A wise man
@robertkraljii5048
@robertkraljii5048 29 күн бұрын
This Fleisher fellow is full of bright ideas. It’s like if I suggested that Israelis only have the right to vote…in Eurovision.
@beatingusoon
@beatingusoon 29 күн бұрын
Imagine America being invaded.. The invaders settle there and then force Americans to apply for citizenship 🤣🤣🤣
@ashwaganda
@ashwaganda 29 күн бұрын
And vote in Canada...
@emmanuelenyinwa1443
@emmanuelenyinwa1443 25 күн бұрын
Isn't this what happened?
@golamrabbaniedi3596
@golamrabbaniedi3596 29 күн бұрын
When you see Dr. Norman is smiling, that means he caught you red-handed.
@tshawtshi3040
@tshawtshi3040 29 күн бұрын
He fell into Norman's trap brilliantly. By excluding the one state solution Norman tempted him to ask about it which when articulated by Norman he showed his true colors by saying I don't agree with it. Soooo there you go a guy that is presenting himself as reasonable does not accept the only none genocidal solution. Ergo what Norman said before was accurate. Genius
@rose-maries7131
@rose-maries7131 29 күн бұрын
I love how Normans silent smirk feels like a whole lecture...
@taniakol
@taniakol 29 күн бұрын
I'm so glad Norman Finkelstein is becoming well-known, taking on these entitled racists who are so off-putting.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
He is a sick liar. It's a shame anyone would believehis lies
@bandits99
@bandits99 29 күн бұрын
He noticed Norm Finkelstein smiling to himself and that's when he realised he'd f***ed up 😆😆😆
@k_sstar5645
@k_sstar5645 29 күн бұрын
He is just saying palastineas may vote but under isrealis supremacy!!! What a democratic country.
@jayr6637
@jayr6637 29 күн бұрын
When your argument is bad... just interrupt & talk over the other person is a vain attempt to make yourself look better!
@jemps4437
@jemps4437 29 күн бұрын
The vision of an Israeli settler: Palestinians to be given "permanent residency" in their own but Israeli-occupied land and so can not participate in Israeli elections since they're just residents, not citizens. BUT as a show of generosity and respect, for democratic processes; they (Palestinians) will be allowed by Israel to participate in Jordanian elections. 🤭
@paulmatters2641
@paulmatters2641 29 күн бұрын
Presumably these non-citizens would pay taxes to the State of Israel. Taxation without representation. Seemed to have heard that somewhere before? Jefferson, Franklin, Adams. Ring a bell. That other person not Norman is a clown show
@harialti9846
@harialti9846 29 күн бұрын
Man legit said “so called Palestinians” and he thinks he has a solution 🙄
@samuelgutierrez6609
@samuelgutierrez6609 29 күн бұрын
Notice that the other guest talks about "democracy in the Middle east" but then has no options for equal rights for the Palestinians, and then when presented with the option for equal Palestinian rights, he doesn't like it. Wow what a DEMOCRACY where half the population wouldn't have equal rights and couldn't vote. Why the hell is my tax dollars going to this joke of a country when Americans in the US need help?
@rifaatrafiq9994
@rifaatrafiq9994 29 күн бұрын
He was willing to look at other options other than genocide but then not willing to consider one person one vote!! Only option he is offering for palestinans is to live under settlers in state of Israel. Says it all!!
@leedavis6000
@leedavis6000 29 күн бұрын
What I find funny about Israeli spokes people. They try all the bluster but when you have someone like Norman who knows lot bout the issue of Israel and Palestine . They can’t use that bluster.
@Aslan_Reza
@Aslan_Reza 29 күн бұрын
You have settlers come from Europe, America and Australia squatting illegally on occupied territories and referring to indigenous people as “so called Palestinian” ….how dare he!?
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Jews are not settlers in their own land. And yes they are indigenous people of the land. The so called Palestinians are arabs
@Aslan_Reza
@Aslan_Reza 29 күн бұрын
@@alizakessler European settlers/so called Jews carry German-Polish-Russian-Ukrainian-Estonian DNA, that’s why DNA testing is banned in apartheid Israel!!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 28 күн бұрын
@@Aslan_Reza Majority of jews are not European jews and the are not settlers in their own land. DNA testing isn't banned
@Adrien323
@Adrien323 29 күн бұрын
The veil of zionism is consistently crushed by asking incredibly difficult questions like "Do you believe Palestinians should have equal rights," "Does that include the right to self-determination," and "Do you believe they are human beings?"
@santichatterjee7284
@santichatterjee7284 29 күн бұрын
Total gaslighting. These chaps are past masters. Great to hear Finkelstein❤
@cormacporter4990
@cormacporter4990 28 күн бұрын
Norman: "One person, one vote" Genocide Apologist: "I dont like that option"
@The_Voice_of_Reason748
@The_Voice_of_Reason748 28 күн бұрын
"If I don't steal it then someone else will" - Fat Yakob the settler from NY
@marcusnelson7026
@marcusnelson7026 29 күн бұрын
NEVER GET YOUR OPPONENTS NAME RIGHT. Norm did a great job.
@tothelighthouse9843
@tothelighthouse9843 29 күн бұрын
Lmao Norman Finkelstein is such a brilliant & cagey debater without being rude, derisive or needing to raise his voice! He got Mr Fleisher to show his hand: Mr Fleisher doesn't actually believe in a democracy with free Palestinians. We can **propose** that as a starting point, but he doesn't like it & the proposal won't stay on the table very long.
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Nope. He is a sick liar.
@Q8Caffeinated
@Q8Caffeinated 29 күн бұрын
The dude is as obnoxious as a cars salesman on a mission to rip you off. He saw the question Mr. Finkelstein was in the process of throwing his way and he tried, with all his phony salesmanship, to dodge only to swallow his pride in the end and without giving an answer in return. Well played Mr. Finkelstein, well played 👏
@ghana312
@ghana312 27 күн бұрын
My thoughts exactly. It was Professor Norman v. a used car salesman. Surprised that Piers made him put a sock in it so that the Professor could finish a sentence.
@owena3896
@owena3896 29 күн бұрын
How do these supposedly high standard news papers let and idiotic proposal such that laid by the "other guest" namely, let Palestinians vote in Jordan. He is so proud that he got to publish this stupendous option in the news papers. No wonder people stopped reading news papers
@afterhourscinema782
@afterhourscinema782 29 күн бұрын
Just LOOK at images of Hebron. People are LITERALLY separated by fences and barb wire while Palestinians are forced to live on the bottom. Even South Africa was less obvious about their apartheid.
@441A444
@441A444 29 күн бұрын
The other guest's lighthearted tone is the banality of evil.
@66hats
@66hats 29 күн бұрын
Checkmate to Norman
@Irishrover11
@Irishrover11 29 күн бұрын
Norm smokes another one!
@globalist1990
@globalist1990 29 күн бұрын
See how piers asks him to stop when he says he doesn't like the option of one person, one vote. Piers always on damage control....
@nadirrabah6756
@nadirrabah6756 29 күн бұрын
"Isn't that nice?" Sarcastic prks aren't they?!!!!!!!!
@samray3461
@samray3461 29 күн бұрын
In short: Settler says quote "I don't like that proposal" in regards to Democracy.
@Blindmonkey69
@Blindmonkey69 29 күн бұрын
Hahahaha how can he just slip in at the end "I don't like proposal" whilst pretending to be caring about working out a fair resolution!!??! 😂😂😂
@tdavani
@tdavani 27 күн бұрын
Norman, you are a gift to humanity and most rational human being. Grateful for your existence and intelligence
@AnalyseThat
@AnalyseThat 29 күн бұрын
He's prepared to give Palestinians a vote, but in the next country. A criminal mind can only bring out twisted logic!
@bertionoone
@bertionoone 29 күн бұрын
Vote in Jordan.... "Voting in their country". I'm not sure this guy is hearing himself.
@addyhadmelike655
@addyhadmelike655 29 күн бұрын
This was "How to prove your debate opponent's argument" by 'Piers's Other Guest'
@shaikhkamruzzaman1177
@shaikhkamruzzaman1177 29 күн бұрын
Mr. Norman is boss of humanity.
@bestman7776
@bestman7776 29 күн бұрын
Settler = land thief Let’s not sugar coat it
@djpaulcfunkeddub3951
@djpaulcfunkeddub3951 29 күн бұрын
The arrogant always interrupt
@MarkG-gb6nq
@MarkG-gb6nq 29 күн бұрын
Israel a democracy 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@KateBates22zabu
@KateBates22zabu 29 күн бұрын
The problem is is Ray lees are proud of their criminal acts from targeted assassination to the crime of crimes. Bragging about a NYTimes editorial after NYTimes printed the dishonest "screams without words" is no plus for the colonizers imo
@precisereview
@precisereview 29 күн бұрын
Norman spoke politely and didn't INTERRUPT and is a true gentleman!
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
A true liar
@gitwindoixphog613
@gitwindoixphog613 29 күн бұрын
This gentleman is a clown, and not fit to debate a scholar like Norman
@waynevanrensburg8037
@waynevanrensburg8037 29 күн бұрын
Another Norm serve, love it
@AtakanAltay
@AtakanAltay 29 күн бұрын
Thank you, Norman
@lailasultan5533
@lailasultan5533 28 күн бұрын
"So called Palestinians" did I hear him right? Arrogance of the Israelis at its finest
@user-zi8qe6tf9f
@user-zi8qe6tf9f 29 күн бұрын
I am your sister from Yemen, and by Allah I only spoke out of hunger and distress. My mother, my brothers, and I lessons and tears. We are in a situation that only God knows about. God is sufficient for us, and He is the best disposer of affairs for those who brought us to this situation. By Allah Almighty, I did not write this appeal out of distress and distress. Poverty, O world, they have felt it So, I hope for you. By Allah Almighty, Lord of the Great Throne, he ate what I had in the house. By Allah, my brothers, he is my brothers by sitting in the house. Who has no food? By God, we are in a very difficult situation. We have 4 people entering the house, and my father has died, and there is no one who can depend on us and who lives in it.We live in a rented house because we cannot pay the rent we owe. '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' ''''''''''''' My brother, my first words are: I swear to God that I will not lie to you or deceive you. I am a Yemeni girl displaced from the war. My family and I live in a rented house in Al-Shahrab 20,000 Yemenis amongs, and now we owe 60,000 for 3 months. The owner of the house is one of the people who does not have mercy, by God, my brother. He comes every day, insulting us, talking about us, and moving from the house to the street because we were unable to pay him the rent. The neighbors saw us crying and came back.They came back to talk to the neighbors and we were given the weekend. So we made him swear by God. He will take us out into the street. Have mercy on him and us. Our country is due to this war and we do not find food for our day, and my brothers and I live in a difficult life. Our father died, may God have mercy on him, and we have no one in this world who was with us in these harsh circumstances. My younger brothers went out into the street and saw...The neighbors eat and stand at their door in order to give them bread even if they break it. By God, to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, they closed the door and expelled them and came back crying. They are dying of hunger. No one has mercy on them and a holiday is returned. I have made a living, and now if us helps us with a kilo of flour, I swear to God, I am dying of hunger. My brother, I am an alien to God. Then, I ask you to help me for the sake of God. I ask you, by God, to love goodness and to help me, even if you can, by messaging me on WhatsApp.On this number +967717354582 and ask for the name of my card and send it and do not be late and may God reward you with all the best, my brothers Sagar, see how they are and help us and save us before they throw us out in the street, you will be lost or we will die of hunger. My family and I ask you, by God, if you are able to help us, do not be late and may God reward you well..`/--~«««~~♡~♡~♡~~•~•~♡~♡~~♡~♡~♡~♡♡♡~~~~: ~:~¡~¡~¡~;I.i.i.i.i.i. i.I.|-ː}-|>}-|>}-|>}-|>}-|>}-|>💔💔😭😭☪️🕋.........😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
@s.bk.655
@s.bk.655 29 күн бұрын
Assalamu Alaikum dearest sister I pray to Allah that he provides you with halal RIZK for your whole family and may He grant Jannah to your father who died and may Allah comfort your hearts minds and souls Ameen
@amylolxox
@amylolxox 29 күн бұрын
This man is my hero ❤
@geirs4117
@geirs4117 29 күн бұрын
Which one?
@alizakessler
@alizakessler 29 күн бұрын
Yes Yishai is
@harrysalci3981
@harrysalci3981 29 күн бұрын
Mr Finkelstein is on another level 👏👏👏
@humblecharlie4383
@humblecharlie4383 29 күн бұрын
fisheye's statement "we can talk about it" means nothing will be resolved and we'll never agree to one person one vote. and i love his settler's american accent, which proves he is from the middle east.
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