NORMAN LEAR Made Good Times BAD By Letting JJ Do His Own Thing - Florida & James Couldn't Take It

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3 жыл бұрын

Norman Lear is arguably the most successful TV sitcom producer of all time. He stunned America by bringing Good Times into our homes and it was a hit. But did letting the break away star, Jimmie JJ Walker, run wild ruin the show for Esther Rolle (Florida Evans), John Amos (James Evans), and eventually the rest of the cast?
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@TisHotMessHistory 3 жыл бұрын
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@J.Evans_Official
@J.Evans_Official 3 жыл бұрын
Norman didn't just kill good times when he removed James but he killed Thelma's whole story of being smart and in college. She went from college to just staying at home to just marrying a football player they killed her whole story and watered her down. She had nothing going for her but the focus of her husband which was not what she was supposed to be. Norman is not black and did not understand what they were fighting for with the story lines
@kuronroland4211
@kuronroland4211 3 жыл бұрын
Good times wasn't the same after john amos was let go
@Roxanne_71
@Roxanne_71 3 жыл бұрын
Adding a Father is what made it a hit!
@timmy841212
@timmy841212 3 жыл бұрын
Good Times was a great show up until the fourth season. Much respect to John Amos and Esther Rolle.
@lyn1.6
@lyn1.6 2 жыл бұрын
I recently watched Ester Rolle on Maude. Florida and Henry were happier and more financially secure on Maude. They joked, danced and seemed more at ease. Henry (James) was a firefighter. They owned their own home and they made enough money that Henry didn't want Florida to be a house keeper anymore. It would have been interesting to see the spinoff follow that path.
@chesterjackson8682
@chesterjackson8682 2 жыл бұрын
That "Damn! Damn! Damn!" scene, although we make jokes about it today, really shook me. It still does to this day.
@lindaeasley5606
@lindaeasley5606 2 жыл бұрын
They turned it into the JJ show just like Happy Days went away from the Cunninghams and made it all about Fonzi.
@williethomas5116
@williethomas5116 2 жыл бұрын
The same thing can be said about Jean Stapleton. She left All in the family just because she felt sick having Edith been walked over and disrespected by Archie. She was screamed at and belittled until she could not take it anymore.
@DeSharaCDoub
@DeSharaCDoub 3 жыл бұрын
This was SOOOOO good! Ester Rolle most definitely deserves more credit than she is given. I had the chance to meet Bernadette Stanis a few years ago, such a nice woman (and still gorgeous)!! Kuddos to Ti!
@tamekawarren4198
@tamekawarren4198 2 жыл бұрын
This is very good information, we were always told that James and Flo was jealous of JJ and quit. Did not know these upstanding characters were taking a stand for black families. My applause
@dolomitefan1767
@dolomitefan1767 3 жыл бұрын
So from All in the Family, the Jeffersons were the Bunkers’ neighbors, that became a show. Maude was Edith Bunker’s cousin and that became a show and Florida was Maude’s housekeeper and became a show. That’s some genius show writing.
@DwayneIsKing
@DwayneIsKing 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Ester for fighting to have a husband on the show. She knew how important it was to have that representation at that time in America. A new era was just blossoming and it is wonderful to see that Good Times had a profound effect on African American culture. Kudos Florida 🙏🏿
@zoradaughter
@zoradaughter 3 жыл бұрын
Ester Rolle & John Amos had such a HEAVY burden to carry on Good Times. I adore them for fighting so hard to have a positive image of Black family on TV. Norman Lear was ignorant and greedy & didn’t care. All he cared about was rating. He took advantage of his power & made everyone suffer for it. That’s not right.
@leegal1001
@leegal1001 2 жыл бұрын
Good Times was never the same once James Amos was written off. My favorite episodes were the ones that he was in. He played a strong, respectable character, who really made an impression. I really liked the characters in those early years. Thanks for sharing. I never knew Esther's roll in making sure her character was married. She was something else!
@candacequalls6286
@candacequalls6286 3 жыл бұрын
I loved their love on the show. Hate they killed him off !
@r.msphonics7201
@r.msphonics7201 2 жыл бұрын
thank you ester rolle for making a stand and including a dad to head the family!!!!
@debiluv4704
@debiluv4704 3 жыл бұрын
He needed to give proper credit to Eric Monte for writing credits. Btw who is black!
@djenkins39
@djenkins39 3 жыл бұрын
Ester Rolle and John Amos was all of it!!!! Now that's Dynamite....thanks Ti!!
@angelapowell8313
@angelapowell8313 3 жыл бұрын
I was disappointed when James character was killed off
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