Thinking about "do not try to buy miniatures from other players" I was playing another Tau Player - and fell in love with his Crisis suit squad - which was even painted in my colour sheme (The white tau one) - not fitting into his - the old one. He told me he wanted to try the "new" white sheme but did not like it. I offered to buy it - for the price of a new set + his time spent in hours *14€ (which was 2 hours) - he was pretty happy. I think the problem is not trying to buy models - but to not respect the effort of the other person.

When your local game shop has a notice on the door that reads "Please do not enter if you have not bathed in the last 24hrs. Gamer funk is a thing, and some of you are FOUL."

9:55 What sort of 40k nerd forgets the hivemind exists? Glad that girl called him out on his bs...

That guy should have been banned, too many instances. Guy has had more than 3 strikes. As a customer if he was being so rude to call a girl a bitch after telling her how to play her army would have been enough to get that guy bounced by customers.

I'll never get over the mindset of a parent considering a hobby store a creche. Especially some of the non-GW FLGS ones and board game cafés. Have they not seen some of the sketchy dudes that hang out in these places? Maybe if they're 14 but not 9 and 10 year olds...

That's one of my pet peeves: someone with a disability--whether it be physical or other--using it to get away with abhorrent behavior. I am totally blind--yes yes, I know, a totally blind table-top wargamer, I know, I'm a novelty--and my life is difficult enough as is. When another blind person does something awful and hides behind their disability, it makes the rest of our lives that much more difficult. The same holds true with any other form of disability. We can be accommodated to without setting expectations for what is considered good behavior lower than the rest of society. To put it differently North, your approach is is a good one and I wish that more people would adopt it.

“Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.” - Mike Tyson.

As a autistic man who has alot of self confidence issues especially in gaming spaces IRL, I appreciate any honesty if i did something stupid. Even if it emotional hurts and I never return; I wouldnt want to hurt others because I didn't understand what I was doing at the time. I may do stupid shit, but I need to be held up to social standerds like everyone else.

As a 40 yr old metal head/biker the chain maid sense in 2002. Limp biskit intensifies...

As a person with Autism I totally get what you're saying. The guy you're talking about is a terrible person. He should have never called the little girl the B word and I hope that guy gets arrested.

As a person with autism I was ashamed most of my life and I tried not to let anyone know and would just come up with things like oh I'm just weird sorry. It warms my heart to hear some one say that letting people use it as a crutch or treating them with kid hands makes coping with it so much harder and so much worse to overcome

The guy was literally a sexual predator towards children, and what strikes you as EVIL is telling people that it's cheaper to buy somewhere else. I dunno but that kinda sounds like some messed up priorities there.

I have autistic children (well some of them are growing up to older teens now and your 100% correct, I treat them like everyone else. I play a lot of different table tops game, and to be honest I am not a big wargamer, but I usually go into Games workshop and buy paints and stuff like that for whatever game I may be painting at the time. I used to go to the Thurrock lakeside to do painting classes, which were really good and taught me a lot. Shame Lakeside shop closed down as the Romford one is quite far away from me, in terms of just popping in, the Romford manager looks like hes on the ball as well and wont put up with any nonsense, he knows I am not in there to buy the games (I do own space hulk and my son and I bought a copy each Legion imperialis though) When I go in there he always go well out of his way to help me with paints, top man. Unfortunately there are Patrick's of this world, and for those that have to deal with them, have my sympathies. The worst person I had to face in a games workshop was one guy who for some reason proceeded to explain his WH40K ultramarine army bit by bit blow by blow, to me, it went on for so long I started to zone out and my eye balls started to shrink into the back of my head.

That moment where you are so mad you need to stop for a spot of tee

As a teacher, I am really pleased to hear your approach to safeguarding children and that on this GW are top.

I fucking HATE when people say yiure playing X game incorrectly. Especially when it comes to 40k. There is no RIGHT way to play. Slme play wysiwyg, some do narractive, some do competitive, lots of different options amd yheyre all fine

I love when autistic people come in to the antique store I work at and we can share special interests, one nice man in his 40s once spent thirty minutes telling me the story of every single ring he had it was lovely

Now to be clear my friends and I complain about the prices of models in our local GW to the manager. That's because we're on friendly terms with them, and we only discuss such things and alternatives when no one else is in the store. If someone asks after something that's not there in a hurry, we might suggest some other local stores that give 10% off, because we know the manager does the same and is fine with such things, because the way they see it all the money circles back to GW in the end in some way or another.

As a professional mental health worker, counsellor and life coach, I totally understand that dealing with individuals, on the spectrum can be challenging when you are not trained, mental health disorders are often hidden by individuals and masked so that they can fit in, communicating and understanding responses is also hard work for some. The idea of the chain wallet was basically so if your wallet fell out you didn’t totally lose it, Harley also did it as when riding its was a lot easier at that angle for you to have your wallet fall out. Some people use it for keys or wallets. It’s basically became a goth fashion statement at one point. I used to get people at one point asking me if I had a Harley as I had the chain and the tshirts, and were horrified I actually did. I have a few of my portfolio that attend GW as part of the Battle Honours programme and also play DnD as part of a community group social support initiative. My GW shop always has at least two people on site and if they have a specific group in they have a social worker or support worker attending. All participants have an agreement on behaviour that they sign with their parents or caregivers as well as support staff on appropriate social behaviour and boundaries they have to sign it.

That's good to hear. Regardless of their money grabbing aspects it's good they have kids safety dialed in.

The Tyranid lass sounds like she's playing Nids right.

I was recently diagnosed with some level of autism, and I would feel worse never being able to tell why people were proper miffed at me than being clearly told and being able to do something to improve it

I just imagine this Patrick picking up your phone and the caller saying, 'Is this Gamesworkshop?' And Patrick screaming, 'No, this is Patrick!' Before slamming the receiver down. Sorry, I just thought that every time you said that asshat's name, lol.

I absolutely love how 16:33 - 16:47 sounded so personal and how you said "ARE YOU HIGH RIGHT NOW" was priceless XD

I wonder how many regulars at game stores are on Sex-offender registries? Kinda makes me want to search the local registries to see if I recognize anyone.

"He's got his Ultramarines..." I winced.

Good job North. Nonces should never be welcome anywhere, except six feet under. Glad to hear GW HQ are hot on this.

How to be lore accurate: be from Yorkshire, play Orks, literally just be your best Yorkshire self

"I can accept you attacking my customers, berating them and calling them names. But if you pull a slight against MEEEE, in MYYYY store!!? That's it, you're out, mate!"

Oi, I still wear a chain on my 'pant's Actually, I wear 2 :D One goes from front to back and stops me getting my wallet robbed The other goes from back to front and stops me loosing my keys They both work together to get me stuck to random benches and other public furniture

16:19 i had this bad with D&D and MTG players. The rpg people were worse cause they came in. Break spines of books. Read rules and go away or tell others to buy on amazon because it's cheap. Or if we priced match amazon. In the end, they would only buy a set of dice, cll themself dice gobins and leave. Or maybe show up oly for rpg night. Mtg players would constantly complain about singles' price, try to use cards as money, or they guy beside them will sell them the same card they were looking for for an undercut amount.

Things are usually on a spectrum, but I wonder if there are two types: the more common type knows they lack interpersonal skills, so they try to be cautious to stay well clear if the boundaries. Maybe the other type knows it too but their "strategy" is to always push the boundaries until someone pushes back. Then they assume) they are told exactly where the boundary is so they maximize getting what they want. But they fail to account for how pissed off people get having to constantly stand up for their boundaries.

I used to play Yu Gi Oh weekly at a local game store in high school, people would do side transactions with cards and stuff especially when opening booster packs, the dude who ran the store was aware and was OK with it. The only time I ever saw it be a problem was after an event when a guy had won a couple of packs, opened them, sorted through what he wanted then took the rest to the store owner and started seeing what he’d buy them for, the owner made him an offer and some random guy next to the counter was like “Oh well I’ll give you this amount.” Owner looked at him and immediately just told him to get out and if he ever thought about interfering with his business again he better stay out.

These stories show why i could never be a manager / employee. Calling another customer a bitch would have had him banned. Touching children would have had him thrown out, 1980s nightclub bouncer style. This is why i don't work in a custome-facing role! 😅

Lol! The story of Patrick getting owned by the girl playing Tyranids is awesome!

It doesn't matter where on earth you live, your local hobby store will always have their own version of Patrick.....

As someone who has spent the vast majority of his working life working in and running pretty rough pubs, Patrick is the sort of person who gets two warnings max before he never comes back again.

I was on a six hour flight and this kid kept kicking the back of my seat the entire flight. I didn't say anything, just tried to ignore it. We land, I stand up, look back at the mom. She looks up, "Sorry if he kicked your seat, he's autistic, hard to keep him under control." I replied, "I'm autistic as well, luckily I didn't get the seat kicking feature." I didn't get diagnosed with autism until just over 1 year ago (I'm in my late 30s), and I don't use it as an excuse for poor behavior, more as me understanding that I need to try harder when I'm around other people to be as respectful as I can. However, it does explain alot of things from the past 30+ years though.

Calling someone a bitch should be the first and only strike before being banned. Wtf.

5:30 i wear a chain like that for the sole purpose of attaching it to my girls choker when she is drunk so she doesnt get lost at venues lol

I help run a family owned LGS, and nothing pisses me off more than some random dickhead coming in and saying "you should go to XYZ place because it's cheaper" I've gotten to a point where I'm heavily considering telling those people to leave. Unfortunately I'm not a manager, so my power to make those calls is limited, but I do run the store by myself regularly, and it's definitely impacted the business.

I work with vulnerable adults, and I have to wear chains on my wallet and keys because some of my clients in the past have had a history of picking pockets and going on joy rides with staff vehicles.

Don't usually comment on videos, but just wanted to add my two cents. While I agree that 'Patrick' was acting as you said as an ashat. His calling a young girl a bit%* and the other things he has done is way worse then talking about the prices of gw models in a gw store. Don't get me wrong, its still idiotic on his part. But a lot of things can cause all of us to lose our jobs, that's not evil its capitalism (which is kinda evil but hey, it's the world we live in).

"But it's not an excuse to be a c#&t!" THANK YOU!!! I was a red-shirt and later ran a flgs for years and yes...100% that...totally fine with working around....eccentricities....shall we say. But...yeah...I had a "one strike" policy for flat-out c#&ty behavior. Great channel mate! Cheers

GW is still a horrible place to visit and shop at 30 years later 😂😂

I swear north has said this story before... someone could probably find it.

A five minute tale told in 30 minutes

I am always so suprised, how different the whole gaming culture is in UK. Both in what is considered good and the worse. Also the idea being able to afford GW games is mind blowing too. Our problems are of the military and police dudes get drunk and start to fight, having a store where members from two different hooligan clans could come in to contact.this bideo was very Informative and interesting to watch.

So true mate as an autistic person Being autistic is not an excuse for being a knobhead

Why do you call him a customer when he never bought anything? Or did I miss that part?

I have so many nightmares to share but i am not a writer. I have tried and tried to type a letter but it just turns into a long rambling mess that goes on for 40 pages or more. 30 years in the hobby is a lot to document. Ive tried to break it up but there is so much cross referencing and call backs to different stories that it's near impossible. I dont want to change elements and facts just to make a more cohesive narrative. A lot of the humor comes from repeat offenders and running jokes. If i just trim down to the basics they turn into lame three sentence anecdotes.

Not very fair to make people play their army lore accurate when you play Ultramarines. One of the most objective focused chapters out there. So you are allowed to play the game the way it's meant to be played cause your faction identity supports that, but everyone else has to just play like it's just a kill game without points? Man I like my lore accuracy too, but the point of the game is to win(And have fun of course). Reminds me of some bad gamers who get genuinely angry when you beat them and insult you for using a good strategy or move(As long as it's not an entirely broken strat or glitched thing). I recently played a really funny and surprisingly effective Guard army that was entirely infantry with three scout walkers and was sort of designed to kill power armour factions. Rekted my ass cause I am also ultramarines. It was fun just to see an odd ball idea. And besides, if you are claiming you want lore accurate fights then you better know your lore. How do you forget that the tyranids have a hivemind that is intelligent. Yes they use horde tactics, but it's usually suplimented by intelligent ideas. Artillery behind the massive waves, larger boiforms finding weaknesses in the lines to exploit. Lictors sneaking around to asssinate commanders. Attacking and disrupting key structures when it can. Or filling the air with spores to clog up aircrafts engines. Everything has a purpose. Just sounds like someone being sore that they are being beaten and use lore as an excuse. Or he genuinely wants lore accuracy cause he wants to be in the fantasy. If that's true then you need to communicate and prepare for lore accurate games. My store has a discord you can plan ahead on the game night to find a match instead of walking in and hoping for a game. But there's no excuse for being so mad at players just playing the game with an interesting build or idea or what just works well. And especially no reason to call her a bitch when she makes a point that proves the tyranids can be smart. The more I listen the more I am leaning to the side that he was just a sore loser. Oh.... and he's probably a piece of sh*t. Ya, he's got to go.

Sounds like he was using a chain wallet. You'd run a chain from the wallet in your back pocket to an attachment to a front belt loop. It was a hot topic thing I saw in NE USA in the 90's.

Been a hell of a long day, looking forward to one of my favorite ranters

I have been sort of dormant in the hobby for about 10 years. Have about 100k points (5th ed points values) in various chaos armies but work and life have kept my Traitor guard, demons chaos marines and titans in the display cabinet. I have not been in a GW affiliated store in at least 12 years. But I still love the hobby. Got to say though, listening to you describe the goings on in your store(deviates excluded) really makes me miss it. I will have to go and have a visit. Would love to visit your store, but I am on the other side of the world.

This confuses me because all the dedicated games workshop stores are all just small shops. The actual games stores that do everything are the ones people play games at. I also worked at a game store once. I was suprised that I didn't need a blue card to work there when there were kids there every avo.

Big fan here north, inspired me to start my channel and hopefully one day ill write in my happy hobby story as i dont have a nightmare haha

These types are common in the IT industry and it gets to a point where it becomes a problem...

Oh thank God... Until I heard the name "Patrick" I was worried that this video would be about me! (I'm fortunately a lot more stable now than I once was, and have had the best part of 20 years to reflect on just how much of an asshole I was when I played 40k back in the day.) Also, wow, nice job Patrick. Only a moron would say "GW is overpriced, go to eBay!" in an actual GW store! Even if you're an evil bastard with no conscience and don't care if someone gets kicked onto the street because you've ruined their business, you should still have enough intelligence to know not to shit where you eat.

I have family members (cousin, siblings kids)and a few friends with Autism, and you are 100% correct. We have been "instructed" to treat them just like any other person. Not to grant them special treatment or to single them out. They all are diagnosed as high funtional. I treated them and judge them just like i would any one. They sometimes tries to use their diagnosis as a "get out of jail" free card, but they never do.

I used to attach my keys and wallet to my chain. I think most people did. No other reason to wear it other than trying to look "metal" I guess. I remember the staff from when I used to play (25 years ago now). I was one of the odd social ducks with lets say a quirky sense of humour. I had a few 10-15 minute time-outs for things i said. But even I would have expected to be perma-banned for calling anyone a bitch. That's just not how it worked. Yeah they all knew me. I was called "The Frog" in the store and they knew I was odd, but odd doesn't equate to getting off with that kind of behaviour.

The only predators around here should be the tyranid players.

If you are out in public try and follow this old adage. If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.

The chains are connected to one's wallet. Ideal is to prevent theft, but more of style.

It kinda surprises me you don't have some basic training in safe guarding kids though, i mean that still is a major audience of Warhammer, and just by length alone of games i bet a lot of parents think it's a good time to go out shopping and leave the kid there for collection later.

New to the channel and love your content. If anything you gave that guy more chances than I would have, trying to undercut your business would of had me seen red, the other stuff he did is just plain weird. I know some people have social impairments due to disabilities but where do you draw the line… You generally seem like a very patient person, more patient than me anyway!

I usually don’t go out to game stores very often because I’m worried about running into people that are scummy because I won’t lie it seems far more common in geek spaces. Hopefully I can find the good ones however.

Reminds me of that guy in the Onion Movie games night sketch.

He sounds like he's on at LEAST one spectrum, and far enough into it, that he doesn't understand normal social behaviour.

Of course the dude that's out here, playing the Greek larp squad, is the one that's a little too friendly with the smaller lads. Fucking shameful.

Patrick had the Inquisition turn up and is now a sewage servitor

I personally don’t like shopping at GW. I wanna get the best price I can but if someone prefers to shop at the store that’s on them. It’s not my responsibility to tell someone where to shop

The Middlesbrough store doesn't have tables to play anymore, just to paint :(

Now this, this is gonna be good!

What you are talking about is defamation.. you were well in your right to sue!.. But heres a little tip for you that I learnt being an entrepreneur. People dont buy products, because someone is always selling it cheaper.. people buy people, they buy connections, they buy community. That shop could be selling them 10% cheaper, but those people in your store are there because of the parts that 10% cheaper doesn't fill.

as someone who gave up on GW ages ago but is still very much in the hobby, and as someone who just discovered this channel.. isn't it fucking crazy how the shitty company is bad enough .. but on top of that we have to deal with fellow shitty nerds who are basically just shitty humans?

i thought GW stopped doing the instore gaming groups ages ago in like 2010? so i was like oh this story is probably from them days in the 00s till you mentioned vulkan model

Every time I watch one of this guys story videos I can't help but wonder if the person he's talking about sees it. Gotta be at least one of them sat there knowing full well they a min 30 story on youtube 😅

What game is this footage of?

"Men get Arrested. Beasts get put down." - Good work there Northern for taking care of the kids who visit your store! Got your head in the right place.

im brand new to warhammer, whats the game in your video?

This is why I left playing 40k. Mostly of all my interactions were awesome with very nice people, having a laugh, sharing painting tips but some of the other people I have met were the most unbearable, toxic people I have never met.

18.02, if that is pure evil, you've lived a very privileged life dude 😅

Iv only ever won 1 game. I think iv played like 5 before ? Iv always had fun, the one I lost by a dice roll was one of my favorite games because we had a extra player and I was so close, that was 4th edition I think or 6th.

He should have been banned when he cussed out his opponent

'I think she was non-binary. Lovely girl!' 🤣

I'm assuming that random chain was many be used as a wallet chain and he just use as an accessory instead? Very weeby that?

I’m new here, first vid & your story was interesting to me so cheers for sharing it, made my night. As for your understanding of autism, ya spot on, having had it all my life. We do silly things, (Never this bad though) and we are a bit quirky, but hell had a lot of laughs because of it over the years so thanks for pointing that out, mate. Now I must go, green skins are invading Bretonnia, again.

Def should of banned that guy right there the first time. People like that are cancer for stores like that. They contribute anything positive to your store monetarily or to the community. That guy will end up costing you money by scaring other customers off.

There was a vile woman at my friend's Game Store who had so many head lice you could see them crawl down her face. I gave her a gift of Rid shampoo.

What's the game in background?

24:20 In that instance I quite disagree. That is worthy of a s-offender-report. Especially since you know how he's behaved around the young boys in the store. Do you have any idea what the longterm psychological damages are that such people cause? It doesn't even need to come to the big event, but a permanent exposure to such a pest and the helpnessness towards that pest because nobody who could does anything undermines the ability to feel any safety and trust at all. That's the kind of looking away that destroys victims in cults as well. The psychological harm is often worse than that of the physical act. It is hard to grasp we humans have trouble understanding harm that does not leave visible bruises or broken bones, but all cases analzed and the research into it shows the same: psychological abuse is worse than physical. The brain doesn't distinguish between the wo, and what causes the deep wounds is the lack of safety and helplessness, the uncaring nature of the environment when left to the worst. What hit the topic home for me, and also allowed me to accept and process the crap in my own backstory as for what it is and thereby allow for thehealing process to even have a chance to start, was the long and arduozos court trial against a well known child-abuse cult in Australia where for once they had the children speak out. The channel Theramin Trees had a good 2part summary on that years ago. "Oh, he's just touching the kids weirdly and inappropriately and they all hate it, that's none of my business" is the attitude that enables all of these pests. What's GW supposed to do about that? "Oh, he's out of this place, it's somebody else#s problem now - some other kids' problem." Wiothout enablers, abusers would have no chance to even try. The one topic that throughout history and cultures the overwhelming majority agrees about is evil. (Evil regimes that practice this stuff are only the exception that prove the rule, for those were usually not held in high regard) I will also add that Markus Aurelius's constant repetition about retreating into his own head is equivalent to how trauma-victims of narcissistic and s-abuse dissociate, he was still on the good side of that part of it, for he did not engage completely in magical escapism, but half his books are suffused with lines of nihilism and apathy, with a denial of malice and flickers of its acknowledgment. . Especially the earlier the book, the more negative lines they contain. A repulsion for the flesh, a disdain for existence, a projection, desperate need for meaning in the universe, for what was done to him - he even phrases it directly as such. His meditations (in German: "Self-reflections) are not wholly a therapeutic manual or healthy philsophy. They are that in part, while the other half is self-destructive in its constant yearning for the end in this mortal coil and dimishing of value and importance of the fleeting life in an infinite universe and time. All of that is coping., We cannot fault for Markus not having a good therapist with the knowledge and capabilities of today (at least if you're lucky enough to find a good one)- and Rome was certainly not known for being kind to children in all the relevant ways.. A product of its time. For someone battling alone he did a decent job, but also consider that his rule was the last good one, and the next heir was a failure - a lack of planning for the future, because it was dismissed so much as - he was almost obsessed with retreaing into the moment, the here and now. Planning is impeded by the constant stress, the hypervigilance, the mental assault of persistant trauma, the haunting memories and flashbacks of emotional recordings. Markus is a man who figured out how to survive, but sadly not how to heal. Denial and dismissal lkeep you locked in that state. Self-blame, deserving everything happening to him, any bad deed, any malicious one, is excused and justified in his texts. How he can speak of virtue and justice seems almost like double-think, but those are the sane lines inbetween the coping mechanisms. Those negative aspects are even the very things abusers today are known for instilling in their targets so that they will not complain, report, and just take it. In PTSD, the prefrontal cortex is impeded, any high-stress-situation does that, because those higher brainfunctions are distracting the brain what it deems important in the very most now: Survival. It's late and I could have probably written this better, and that was the plan in the long run, but after hearing this story, this needs out - especially since you advertise Markus's writings (and they are not entirely bad and are recommended for a good reason first and foremost), but here they show their negative impact, their very fatal flaws.

Tell Patrick youll get James Workshop if he acts up again.

Holy shit. I was not expecting that! I was just expecting another run of the mill guys caught cheating etc

My little brother is autistic and I'm pretty sure I am...just haven't gone and done the testing but yeah treat everyone as equal especially them. Totally agree with what you said there. As for the dude, how you didn't punch him is beyond me, you're a better man then I haha

This is why i just don't ever play at the game store tbh because of people like that. I just stay at home and play with my gf lol

When you work in a store with nerds. You my friend are the uber nerd dont forget that :) ( cartoon guy Simpsons is a very good xample )

The chains are for your wallet.

I dont understand, whats wrong with disrupting the business of a GW store? The store managers are rolling in cash anyway. :3

I miss going to the Warhammer store.