Not all Synthetic Oils are the same. What to look for.

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7 жыл бұрын

Flatirons Tuning Tech Tip - Not all Synthetic Oils are the same. What to look for.
When it comes to picking an oil for your car, there are a ton of options now if you are looking for a synthetic oil. But what do you look for?
Synthetic oil has been changing over the last 10 years or so for a number of reasons, and we decided it would be helpful to put together a video that goes into detail about what the different types of synthetic oil are, what some of the popular additives in oils are to look for, and how some certifications, especially an API certification effects those.
Hopefully this video helps, and thanks for watching!

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@jameskoralewski1006
@jameskoralewski1006 3 жыл бұрын
So, the API and automakers are really worried about the zinc and phosphorus because of their pocketbooks. They are not concerned about the benefits that zinc and phosphorus give you added to motor oil. They are afraid that they might have to pay out for a warrantied catalytic convertor if a little zinc or phosphorus helps give it an early death. It all comes down to dollars.
@highrzr
@highrzr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for not calling Group III base stocks synthetic and for covering the API zinc requirements.
@andrewpaige9152
@andrewpaige9152 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so so much and merry Christmas to you and the team from Australia
@danielcrescenzo354
@danielcrescenzo354 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent info. Your bravery on approaching this subject is noted. I will be switching to the 8100 and have 2 mailers standing by for analysis when the time comes. Cheers!
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good Dan! Thanks for watching!
@fragu123
@fragu123 6 жыл бұрын
You guys are doing great stuff 👏👏👏
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
@G1itzik
@G1itzik 7 жыл бұрын
great professional info, thanks
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@00stevey
@00stevey Жыл бұрын
Best oil video I've seen on KZfaq.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Stay Tuned!
@billthompson9595
@billthompson9595 5 жыл бұрын
Great information video! Have you ever noticed when a oil lab tec takes a oil sample form a new bottle for testing he shakes it first? Why....most of the additives have settled to the bottom of the container, especially if on the shelf for any length of time. I always shake every container before pouring into any engine. Thanks
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen settling many times. Looks like fine brown paste at the bottom of the container. ZF of Germany says "shake well" on their transmission fluid. One of the few that still puts this on the label.
@200434ton
@200434ton 4 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful and great information. I was just watching some of Lake Speed Jr's videos too. 👍
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@crispycoleman77
@crispycoleman77 7 жыл бұрын
great video... I only run 8100 5w-40...
@emmanuelortiz2490
@emmanuelortiz2490 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh man love this topic all I tell people is whatever floats your boat buy whatever makes you happy. Ill just keep doin my regular oil changes at 3k regardless if it's synthetic or not trust it does wonders
@andrewp1998
@andrewp1998 5 жыл бұрын
waste of time and money and creates more waste and consumption doing changes at 3k..
@emmanuelortiz2490
@emmanuelortiz2490 5 жыл бұрын
@@andrewp1998 waste????? IDK where your getting that from but ... Like I said do what ever floats your boat
@andrewp1998
@andrewp1998 5 жыл бұрын
just save your time.. even conv oil goes 5 k to 7 k.. save money and oil too. just my adv ice. take care
@caseypinto268
@caseypinto268 5 жыл бұрын
I use redline on my sti and it feels so smooth and motul for gear oil👌🏽 Dont recommend any other. I tried others but they burn faster and have a stronger nasty smell when I gas it.
@jeffreyMagnum460
@jeffreyMagnum460 5 жыл бұрын
Hello 1980 is calling, 3000 mile change.
@DBravo29er
@DBravo29er Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would add that HTHS is likely the most important spec for any oil. Closely followed by Viscosity Index, KV100 And KV40, then TBN.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. Stay Tuned!
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
AGREED! Yet, Lake Speed Jr. NEVER even mentions HTHSV specs in ANY of his videos. I wonder WHY?!?
@dsteffler54
@dsteffler54 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation of a confusing issue... re the catalytic converter problem.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nhatquang1510
@nhatquang1510 5 жыл бұрын
ENEOS Sustina have group VI synthetic base. Their viscosity super stable, especially easy to know the different with Valvoline Synpower I used before in winter. My car operate like the engine already at operating temperature but temp gauge still at all the way down C.
@amazoidal
@amazoidal 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Group IV? There is no Group 6.
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 3 жыл бұрын
Eneos sustina at least the 5W40 C3, doesn´t have any special additive or base, is just a GTL base III+ (Like Shell Ultra) with a normal mid saps additive pack.
@davidcotter4556
@davidcotter4556 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@Mewzyc
@Mewzyc 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer using redline in spring/summer, and Motul in Winter, due to the flow and thickness. They r also easy to get in my area
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. Stay Tuned!
@Big1_
@Big1_ 3 жыл бұрын
When you see a car with a Gran turismo sticker on it, you know that you are in the righ place for a review.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@cuttingedgecool7235
@cuttingedgecool7235 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I knew something about synthetic oil before viewing this video…the knowledge of what different oil manufacturers are making as far as group III, IV and V base stocks and what really is the highest quality is explained succinctly in this video. My approach and what to really focus on when choosing an engine oil has been forever changed for the better. What do you think of the base stocks made from natural gas and how do they compare to PAO or Ester based stocks?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Ester based stocks (group V) are the best, and tolerate heat the best, but they are way more expensive. Since they are inherently thinner, you are also more prone to issues with consumption. For new cars or race cars, Ester oils are a good option. For most other cars, the PAO group 4 stocks are a solid option. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 3 жыл бұрын
Having used redline, on a long run 7-8k miles, oil will come out great looking after the 3rd change. 1st it looks like it took all the accumulated shite, 2nd looks a lot better, 3rd it comes out clean and after that is the same over and over again.
@mikeschlup5279
@mikeschlup5279 Жыл бұрын
Polyol ester is highly detergent by its nature...which is why the engine oil was dirty..and got cleaner ...
@user-nf3oq2ge3g
@user-nf3oq2ge3g 4 ай бұрын
Rotella 5w40 t6 from Walmart has 1500ppm zinc and phosphorus and boron as well and reasonably priced. Harley Davidson 20w50, honestly some of the best oil IV ever seen expensive but my dad had a case and I did an oil change in my Subaru. Instant difference and after 5k miles looked brand new. Drained it out of the SUbie and dumped it straight into the tractor. And doing research has the highest content of zink, phosphorus and boron. Best 50 weight oil on the market.
@tzero6
@tzero6 6 жыл бұрын
Great info I needed to see this.
@JB-vu8wy
@JB-vu8wy 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should check out the BG 5/30 full synthetic. I use that and their MOA110 and don't experience nearly as much oil consumption or blow by as I did with other oils in my MY8-14 sti. (mild build, track days every other month or so)
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks JB. We'll have to check that out.
@twinforce_fusion6560
@twinforce_fusion6560 4 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right, for me, AMSOIL Signature Series
@victorgirouard1543
@victorgirouard1543 4 жыл бұрын
I agree amsoil is all I run in all my engines atvs car trucks worked them all hard and all preformed flawlessly never a engine failure.
@Johnny-jw1iz
@Johnny-jw1iz 3 жыл бұрын
The best oil in my opinion
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 3 жыл бұрын
Motul 8100 line are almost all HC group 3 and somes examples have a bit of PAO... Not a bad oil but nothing superb too, if you want a true synthetic RedLine and Amsoil (not euro version) they have more than 50% of PAO or Ester. The 300v is a ester oil but nothing compare to RL.
@barrythomas6429
@barrythomas6429 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting..in my neck of the woods zinc was removed from all engine oils with the exception of Diesel oil. So if you need zinc for whatever reason, you just bought diesel oil. Now after a bit of lobbying from owners of vintage and veteran cars we now have Synthetic engine oil that is labelled "Full Zinc anti-wear additive package" .Although there is nowhere on the bottle or on their web site that tell you what percentage of zinc = full zinc.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment Barry. It is definitely getting harder to find oils with a higher zinc content these days. I'd recommend looking for Virgin Oil Analysis of any oil your a considering, or you can buy a quart and send a sample off yourself if you are curious. Once you have that information, and if you can compare the same information to an older oil that you had good luck with, you can see how close it is for zinc concentration. Hope that helps, and thanks for watching!
@mevio4665
@mevio4665 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning how about Triax 5w-50? High zinc and phosphorous
@jameschristian8161
@jameschristian8161 3 жыл бұрын
Schaeffer now offers mid and full saps oil. Its in their 8000 series oils. Fyi
@saltpepper1894
@saltpepper1894 2 жыл бұрын
whats the diff between red line euro & full synth red line? I have a vintage 2.5 Turbo dodge with flat tappet engine. rebuilt with 6K mi on it. getting a lil more oil dilution than im comfy with.... (nothing obviously wrong with engine bw). have been using Mobil 1 but as you say API influence may not work for my situation (no cat here too). maybe time to switch to higher level zinc oil...
@saladim56
@saladim56 4 жыл бұрын
What about carrier oils and additives? Are these pure,100% synthetic oils with no petroleum whatsoever?
@akrammosbah21
@akrammosbah21 3 жыл бұрын
Motul 8100 x cess full saps 5w40 are group 3 or 4 ???
@MrRGiller
@MrRGiller 5 жыл бұрын
Amsoil, Redline and Motul are just about the best oils available but are pricey.
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 5 жыл бұрын
Roy Giller just based on price and understanding of product line, amsoil stands apart from the other 2. Have heard of bad reports from Redline and Motul (8100) , but never with Amsoil
@ricky55626
@ricky55626 5 жыл бұрын
@@LoveLikeaHurricane amsoil is inferior to redline and motul
@jjmccloud
@jjmccloud 5 жыл бұрын
@@ricky55626 RedLine FTW!!!!
@JimBic72
@JimBic72 4 жыл бұрын
You’re absolutely correct. If I personally were to rate them: 1. Motul 2. Redline 3. Amsoil . Don’t get me wrong they’re all good and would be my three top choices.
@RayJays
@RayJays 4 жыл бұрын
ricky55626 can you reference independent proof how Amsoil is inferior? Very curious. Thanks.
@shith00k
@shith00k 5 жыл бұрын
I noticed that Amsoil wasn't included along with these top shelf oils. Maybe because it is inferior to the brands featured in this video?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
We don't deal with Amsoil, and so we don't have any first hand experience with it. I know that they have been around for a long time, and make a good product. We just don't have experience tracking it, etc.. Because we couldn't give good information either way, we just didn't include it for this discussion. Hope that helps and thanks for watching!
@amazoidal
@amazoidal 3 жыл бұрын
True Racing Oils have little or no detergents because it doesn't see lots of miles or time. Instead, replace the detergents with more oil.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
Also, because there is much less chance for aeration/windage with little to no detergents/dispersants in the oil, especially at the high revs racing engines see constantly.
@ytdweller23
@ytdweller23 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jon for every effort you make. What oil do you suggest for longer duration and maximum protection for our VA STIs?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. We really like the Motul 8100 5w40 X-Cess because it has the full SAPS additive package. I would also recommend Redline 5W40 as well. Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@ytdweller23
@ytdweller23 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning What do you think of Amsoil Signature 5W40 Fully Synthetic oil?
@cameronbeyer7687
@cameronbeyer7687 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I was looking at the Motul stuff and was wonder what the main difference is between the Eco and the X-cess was. I have a 19 STI and it burns the oem oil like mad, but doesn’t burn better oils I’ve tried (royal purple, ams oil) I change every 3000 so oil life isn’t my concern
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. For the 8100, Motul has a different name for each weight and formulation. In the case of the Eco-Nergy and the X-Cess, it is simply a difference between the weights (5w-30 and 5w-40). Some of the other 8100's do have different formulations, and there you would want to look at the SAPS they contain. Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@kevin-jm3qb
@kevin-jm3qb Жыл бұрын
What about oils with low calcium to avoid low speed pre-ignition.
@amounifnd
@amounifnd 4 ай бұрын
If you don't have a car like the one behind him, then using a Group 3,4,5 Synthetic over the other wont matter much. All because the phosphourous component of zinc is being reduced, doesn't mean its not being substituted with Moly or Boron. Like if you have a Group 5 Ester base oil, there is no point in having loads of Calcium detergent in it as they both clean. Esters are being surpassed by Alkylated Napthalene as it is a true Synthetic Group 5+ and does not compete with the anti wear additives. PAO is great but ends up getting loaded with mineral oil anyway just to mix the additives and detergents as it is a poor cleaner on its own.
@MD-pz3cn
@MD-pz3cn 6 жыл бұрын
This was a solid video. Really gets some new information out there on KZfaq. Since the FA20DIT has naturally occurring carbon build up on it's intake valves from its EGR system, would a low SAPS or high SAPS oil be the preferred choice? I've been using Eneos 5w30 for the time being, and am unsure if I should switch to an 8100 or say with Eneos.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question! That is a tricky one. The first thing that I'd recommend is to do both a new (VOA) and used analysis on the oil that you are using. See how it is effected in your change interval, and see if you can get a measure of the volatility of the oil. And if you want to switch to a new oil, do the same with the new sample. See how the analysis compare, and make your decision on which to stick with once you have that information. Best of luck!
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 4 жыл бұрын
I suggest using a top cylinder oil/ cleaner that keeps the valves clean and lubricates the top piston ring. Lucas Engine Treatment works very good and so does Redline Fuel Treatment. There are many other good ones. Also, install an oil condensator or catch can in the PCV line.. This may eliminate the build up, if the oil from the crankcase is coming through the PCV system and on to the valves.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
A very low volatility percentage oil will also help a bunch with that problem.
@righteousredneck777
@righteousredneck777 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to know that if there are oils that are better why are they not readily available in stores
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
I'd say that they are available, just not as widely available as the brands that first come to mind when you think of oil. And in part, I'd say that this is because many people just don't put much thought into what oil they put in their car, and therefor a more expensive option just doesn't move like the less expensive oil. Thanks for watching!
@danielduarte1574
@danielduarte1574 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning do you recomend redline oil on a 5.7 hemi
@johnauletta7685
@johnauletta7685 7 жыл бұрын
Good info. Oil groups are new to me. What are your thought. on Liqui Moly 5-40 and MOS2 additive for pro-tuned subaru motors?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question John. I'm familiar with Liquimoly, but we haven't stocked it in a while. If you are curious about it, I'd recommend you send a sample out and see how it compares to a few other oils. Thanks for watching!
@FEGTTTSDH
@FEGTTTSDH 3 жыл бұрын
In LM only the Synthoil line are truly PAO oils. The Mos2 additive you can find in some oils in organic form is not a big deal, but the Ceratec is much much better.
@simpleman8264
@simpleman8264 4 жыл бұрын
My Hemi loves redline
@jstardhami9958
@jstardhami9958 4 жыл бұрын
Bet it would love amsoil even better
@danielduarte1574
@danielduarte1574 3 жыл бұрын
Does your hemi have the hemi tick
@danielduarte1574
@danielduarte1574 3 жыл бұрын
And what oil weight do you use ??
@harisb7862
@harisb7862 3 жыл бұрын
what are your thoughts on running motul 300v 5w-40 or 5w30 on a stock block ej205 that sees hard use occasionaly? what change intervals would you suggest for it? used to run motul 8100 with change intervals of 3.5k miles
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. The 300V is definitely designed to stand up to high heat and abuse, but it is not designed to last thousands of miles. With 300V you would want to change the oil every couple of months, or at most at 3,000 miles. Ideally sooner than that. If you are going for longer duration than that, I'd say stick with the 8100, or look at Motul Sport which has an Esther base but is designed to run longer than the 300V (at most 5,000 miles). Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@harisb7862
@harisb7862 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning it really helped me! thank you! i will give 300v a try as i am ok with 2,5k-3k oil change intervals. I think it will help maintain a better health of all bottom end bearings than lets say motul 8100. thanks again!
@konstadinostsaprounis7533
@konstadinostsaprounis7533 2 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning Ive been using motul 300v in my toyota avensis 1.6 2001 model for 12 years. From 100000klm to 234000klm. When i change it to liqui moly synthoil high teck at 234000, the color of the oil get total black at 2500klm and lost 1 liter at the dip stick. It has a lot of built up the engine from 300v had using. The 300v change it every 10000klm, to long interval for this oil. Thank you very much for the video fl tuning, i really enjoyed watching it!!
@onesikm3
@onesikm3 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Motul 300V Competition 5w-40 in my 95 e36 m3 for over two years now. That includes track days and daily driving!!! and I’ve been changing it regularly at about 5k mile intervals . Im about to send in my first oil sample to blackstone labs to see what analysis report we get back on the condition of the oil. They can’t tell me anything about my engine that I’m not already aware of lol but I’m still curious if I was running the ester oil for too many miles? or If it was loosing any wear protection properties? However, now it has come time for another oil change but that stuff is so expensive and money is tight so I’ve decided to switch to a more affordable product line such as, the 8100xcess or 8100 xmaxx or different brand entirely. My options are amsoil/Motul since they are in the same price bracket or going with stuff that can be found off the shelf at most stores and Walmarts. I was looking at the castrol European and the valveoline euro or the mobil 1 euro last night at my local Walmart. I didn’t even know valvoline had made a European formula
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching. Stay Tuned!
@onesikm3
@onesikm3 Жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning KZfaq really needs to start allowing attachments to be also uploaded in the comments section so I could put up my oil sample test for the 300v for someone else to reference in the future 🤷🏼‍♂️
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
The Mobil 1 0W-40 Euro uses a group 4/5 base stock, and a decent additive package, but I did not know that it is on the shelves at Wally World?!?
@orestwolfgang556
@orestwolfgang556 4 жыл бұрын
Is it safe to run 300v in a daily, and for how many miles. I assume it doesn't have as much additives for longevity of oil as normal oils have. I ask because sometimes I like to push it and want the best for my engine. Thank you and great video
@specpribor1784
@specpribor1784 4 жыл бұрын
The strength of the oil wedge at 300V is 80% hydrocracking 2000 kg.cm2. For Redline oil 5W30 - 98% polyolester - 22 000 kg.sm2! But they won’t tell you that.
@orestwolfgang556
@orestwolfgang556 4 жыл бұрын
@@specpribor1784 Sorry, what does that mean in english? thanks
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
From Motul, they say that it is not formulated for long change duration, but I don't know how far you could run it safely. I'll see if I can get any specifics from them about it. They have come out with a new "Sport" oil that is Esther based as well that may be better suited for a 3,000 - 5,000 change interval. For now, I can tell you that Redline will go 5,000 miles no problem, and it is partially Esther based. Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@LoveLikeaHurricane
@LoveLikeaHurricane 3 жыл бұрын
All the money you used in buying the 300V, and switch it out every 5000-7500 miles (assuming you are daily driving with a couple track days a year) only to have to rebuild the engine or transplant eventually....could of bought you perhaps x2 engines.
@orestwolfgang556
@orestwolfgang556 3 жыл бұрын
@@LoveLikeaHurricane What are you smoking???
@jameskoralewski1006
@jameskoralewski1006 3 жыл бұрын
What is the cost of the Motul 300V per quart?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. It comes in 2 Liter tin's, so it is about $16.00 per quart. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@4RT0119
@4RT0119 4 жыл бұрын
Idemitsu or Motul for a turbo charged Subaru?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
We really like the Motul 8100 and Schaeffers for the Subaru engine. Hope that helps, and Stay Tuned!
@latino914
@latino914 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid! I currently use Motul 8100 X-Clean + 5w30 on my G37. So far so good, but what's difference bw that and the Xcess and Eco that also come in 5w30?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. The difference is the additive packages in those oils. For instance, the X-Clean has low SAPS, so low zinc, where the Eco-Nergy has high SAPS, so high zinc. It is just a variance in the blend. Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@mikemounlio87
@mikemounlio87 Жыл бұрын
@FlatironsTuning I use xclean now. U say it has low saps do I need to run high saps? I run a audi ttrs at around 700hp. 3-5k oil changes
@RXAR1234
@RXAR1234 3 жыл бұрын
I get Walmart/Costco 100% Synthetic Motor Oil for less than $15.00 on 5 USA quarts, do you have any similar price???
@lonniebeal6032
@lonniebeal6032 2 жыл бұрын
I really doubt it, it's more likely group III oil for that price. Cheapest group IV has been Triax by the gallon $31, or 5 qt jug $34
@AliAli-ky1tw
@AliAli-ky1tw 2 жыл бұрын
Can you testing TRiAX oil???
@mevio4665
@mevio4665 2 жыл бұрын
That would be really interesting
@adoreslaurel
@adoreslaurel 6 жыл бұрын
I live down under, where is the Shell, Castrol, Valvoline,Nulon etc in all of this, never heard of any of the brands shown here?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 6 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you haven't heard of any of these, but hopefully some of them at least are available. Motul for one is a big international brand. Thanks for watching!
@mayk3lll
@mayk3lll 5 жыл бұрын
Motul is definitely available down under
@andrewpaige9152
@andrewpaige9152 4 жыл бұрын
@@mayk3lll where? Super cheap? Auto barn? Bursons? Repco? Really we are so limited in the car scene to get our stock unless you know someone I'm a car enthusiast with about 4 cars and still can't a group to even hang with so I mostly just work on my cars and keep them looking great sounding great running great etc
@mayk3lll
@mayk3lll 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewpaige9152 nah man none of the main stream shops.. Do a search here.. heaps in Sydney.. www.motul.com/au/en/resellers Where you from Andrew?
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 4 жыл бұрын
You have to get out of Pep Boys and Auto-zone to know these brands.
@robertomorffi6856
@robertomorffi6856 4 ай бұрын
The question that im having the most trouble answering is which viscocity. 5w30 or 5w40? Many people use and recommend 5w40 however the vehicle was designed according to subaru for 5w30. Are people just throwing a 40wt in there to account for the higher hths due to all of these resource conserving oils out there? Does subaru just care aboit meeting epa and 40wt truly is better? To my knowledge it all depends on the tolerances etc.. too thick an oil cant properly lubricate an engine.. so far ive decided to stick with 5w30 oils that also have the higher hths ratings and increased zddp like redline. Currently using rp hps 5w30 which has the higher hths and zddp content while maintaining the viscocity in the manual. I tried motul xcess 5w40 and my vehicle DID NOT like it. It pulled timing and dropped my DAM immediately which had my tuner puzzled because thsts the oil they use and recommend the most lol.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
The white bottle Red Line 5W-30 is actually slightly MORE viscous in HTHSV rating than some of the lower end of the API viscosity range, labeled as 5W-40s out there!
@jd646
@jd646 2 ай бұрын
How do you know which oils are more viscous than others? Other than the weight given? How do can I find out which 5w30 is more viscous than another 5w30 for example?​@@LS1conehead
@NickeryNelson
@NickeryNelson Жыл бұрын
Enjoy watching your videos. What do you think about Triax oils, such as the 0w40 or 5w30? I would love to see you do a video on these also.
@derrickgarcia303
@derrickgarcia303 4 жыл бұрын
What would you recommend for Subaru turbo cars? Thanks!
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question. We have run all of these oils at one time or another with good results. As long as it is a high zinc oil, you should be good. Thanks for your question, and Stay Tuned!
@duckyxiong8
@duckyxiong8 4 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning even for a stock turbo charged subaru?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
@@duckyxiong8 I would definitely recommend an oil with high zinc content even for a stock Turbo Subaru. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@groovyapex7910
@groovyapex7910 11 ай бұрын
Motul 300v don't use more than 15% of ester. Red Line around 60% of ester.
@fatal3sgte
@fatal3sgte 5 жыл бұрын
I've been using shell Rotella T6 for the engine and shell spirax S6 for the drivetrain with no issues so far, holds up quite well for smell and sight test between change intervals. I've seen Rotella T6 all over the forums but didn't hear any mention of it in the video. Any personal thoughts on it for long time use?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. Since it is a diesel oil, we didn't want to go down that road since there is a whole separate discussion of running diesel oil in a gasoline car. That being said, we have done it, and know a lot of people around here that do. But T6 does fall into the same category of oils that have changed formulation. the zinc content has dropped in the last few years, though I don't think quite as much in the gasoline oils. Hope that helps, and thanks for watching!
@fatal3sgte
@fatal3sgte 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning thanks for making informative content without the typical dubstep/vaping boy racer intro. Gained another subscriber. 👍
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 4 жыл бұрын
Rotella now makes a version for gasoline powered trucks. It's called Rotella Gas Truck.
@stephenmaurer7008
@stephenmaurer7008 4 жыл бұрын
@@tarquineous Currently using Shell Rotella Gas Truck 0w-20 in my 2017 Toyota Tacoma 3.5l V-6. So far my truck runs great on this oil.
@papaal7014
@papaal7014 5 жыл бұрын
Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is synthesised from natural gas/methane. What group is that.
@pattreu834
@pattreu834 5 жыл бұрын
group 3
@amazoidal
@amazoidal 5 жыл бұрын
Group 3 and priced like a Group 4. Overpriced. Same with Castrol Edge. You are buying the Marketing.
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
Group 3+
@tomasnokechtesledger1786
@tomasnokechtesledger1786 3 жыл бұрын
Driven is PAO, not Ester.
@rutwikkarekar4666
@rutwikkarekar4666 3 жыл бұрын
I am using 5w40 MOTUL 8100xCase 💯% Synthetic On 2009 Honda City ivtec From INDIA This Oil Is Best Or Not ???
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question. That is definitely a good oil to be using. I don't think that I could say that there is a single best oil really. As long as you are getting good results with that oil, I'd definitely stay with it. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@rutwikkarekar4666
@rutwikkarekar4666 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning Please Make Detail Video On 💯% Synthetic Engine Oil Vs Fully Synthetic Engine Oil
@pattreu834
@pattreu834 5 жыл бұрын
redline oil is all I use
@marcok6959
@marcok6959 4 жыл бұрын
Me too. 0w20 redline
@danielduarte1574
@danielduarte1574 3 жыл бұрын
Could i use redline on a 5.7 hemi with the hemi tick
@roscomcfarland204
@roscomcfarland204 4 жыл бұрын
What is your name man?
@mfuji02
@mfuji02 4 жыл бұрын
guess AMS OIL wasn't good enough to be included :/
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. We don't have any first-hand experience with Amsoil, so we did not include it in our discussion. Hopefully it was still helpful for you. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@flaviomartinho1753
@flaviomartinho1753 3 жыл бұрын
I use the amsoil euro 0w40 full saps Wondering about the group they are in ? My guess will be 4 since it says 100% and equals to the same motul ll01 that its there.
@YeiDCalle
@YeiDCalle 2 жыл бұрын
Add now Ravenol from Germany and Extreme GTI VR2 from Rusia. Check and ull see what im talking about 👍
@user-nf3oq2ge3g
@user-nf3oq2ge3g 4 ай бұрын
There is no such thing as a synthetic oil. It’s a sales pitch. It is better because the synthetic oil that’s just mineral oil, is filtered so all the oil particles are the same size. This allows for way better lubrication. Regular oil has many different particle sizes and makes it not as consistent for oiling. It’s like riding on a sheet of plywood on golf balls for synthetic oil. And regular oil is like throwing some base balls in their and expecting to roll over them smoothly. All base oil is the same comes from the same place. It’s the small differences in additives that change the brand. Most good oils have boron in it and that helps zink and ohesphorusbwork better
@jamesmacklin9735
@jamesmacklin9735 4 жыл бұрын
schaeffer all around, best oil out there
@extremedrivr
@extremedrivr 3 жыл бұрын
False!! Amsoil Signature Series is better by a length as great as the pacific ocean.
@NorthlanderMN
@NorthlanderMN 3 жыл бұрын
How about when its -30F?
@extremedrivr
@extremedrivr 3 жыл бұрын
@@NorthlanderMN Amsoil SS Oil has a pour point of about -60F.
@cutdepiefails6596
@cutdepiefails6596 3 жыл бұрын
Did heard about it, but it's hard when any car that has some excessive wear always & eventually run redline and excessive wear is no more...
@TheDarkstarsk8allday
@TheDarkstarsk8allday 3 жыл бұрын
Redline 5w-50 is the best oil period
@paul1der
@paul1der Жыл бұрын
Dont sleep on amsoil. 100% synthetic base and additives
@papaal7014
@papaal7014 5 жыл бұрын
9:35 An oil analysis every 1000 miles? Spend a dollar to save a dime. Helpful advise.
@redfirefox3568
@redfirefox3568 5 жыл бұрын
Schaeffer's Racing Oil FTW!!!!!
@MoDeeRUN
@MoDeeRUN 5 жыл бұрын
When running e85 what oil would be the best to use?
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
That is a difficult question to answer. Many people around her are using Schaeffer's with good results. I'd think that the Motul 8100 and Redline would tolerate the E85 well also. The best advice would be to have your oil tested at your change interval so that you know how it holds up. If the oil you are using is showing signs of contamination or breaking down, then try something else. Hope that helps, and thanks for watching!
@MoDeeRUN
@MoDeeRUN 5 жыл бұрын
@@FlatironsTuning thanks for the advice. It is greatly appreciated. Through your videos I've done alot to the car learning through ya'll, even down to switching my 5 speed trans on my 08 WRX hatch to a 6 speed.
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 5 жыл бұрын
@@MoDeeRUN that is great to hear. Always feel free to reach out if you have any questions, or if you need any parts! Glad that we could help!
@scottcroce5277
@scottcroce5277 4 жыл бұрын
ERICMD82 when we were running alcohol back in the day we ran caster oil also called bean oil. Just saying
@richardvacanti4265
@richardvacanti4265 3 жыл бұрын
Is 8100 x - cess 100% synthetic like amsoil
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your question. Yes, the Motul 8100 line of oils are all 100% synthetic. Hope that helps and Stay Tuned!
@marcok6959
@marcok6959 3 жыл бұрын
Redline oil!!!!!
@gregkeller80
@gregkeller80 6 ай бұрын
MPT 30K all the way
@LS1conehead
@LS1conehead 2 ай бұрын
They're still in business??
@denniss1211
@denniss1211 4 жыл бұрын
Live in US and never heard of any of the brands shown here.... talk about 100% syn sold everywhere in US. .... sorry ... I do know about Red Line..
@tarquineous
@tarquineous 4 жыл бұрын
Redline has been around a long time. Mostly in speed shops and high performance shops. Motul is from France. A big operation there! Their catalog has pages and pages of different products. The most I have ever seen. They are known for having the "Spec" on the bottle for Ford, Renault, Porche, GM, etc.
@bamaboysmith2723
@bamaboysmith2723 4 жыл бұрын
AMSOIL
@jstardhami9958
@jstardhami9958 4 жыл бұрын
Best oil
@thatguy1919
@thatguy1919 3 жыл бұрын
Jstar Dhami no motul is, they use esters which have been proven to be the best lubricant for engines due to its polarity which causes it to stick to every piece of metal it comes in contact with
@Johnny-jw1iz
@Johnny-jw1iz 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatguy1919 according to engineers amsoil signature series is the best.
@thatguy1919
@thatguy1919 3 жыл бұрын
Johnny can you site this information?
@tubetime39
@tubetime39 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatguy1919 I been searching ( just starting my search) and seeing different opinions. I've been seeing talk about Motul lately. Sounds like it's worth looking into. Where can I find some information on their formula and/or testing ? I will search for it but since I was here I thought I'd ask and maybe save some time. So many oils and opinions, I figured it would be best to look at the data myself. Thanks for any input you can provide for me. Greatly appreciated !
@hunhun9047
@hunhun9047 Жыл бұрын
Compare the german highest quality, the USA mineral oil Group 3 (HC), they're call Synthetic but you can not say in Germany. If you using Top fuel , they 're pure additive. not the using real world on the road. The USA maker avoid using Ester cause they can not competitive prices and cost so they add the zinc additive for get low cost, high margin but bad evironment, they don't care.👎🏻
@FlatironsTuning
@FlatironsTuning Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Yes, the standards for what you can call Synthetic Oil is more strict in Europe. That is one of the reasons that folks here in the US prefer European synthetic oil. Thanks for watching and Stay Tuned!
@charlespetersonii6989
@charlespetersonii6989 5 жыл бұрын
Schaeffer oil is the best in the world!
@jameskoralewski1006
@jameskoralewski1006 3 жыл бұрын
Why should I have to pay a lab to tell me what is in the oil that I am purchasing.? Just like all the ingredients are in the food that we buy to eat, all oil that we purchase should also have all the ingredients that are in that oil we buy to use in our engine, including the base stock it is made from!
@user-nf3oq2ge3g
@user-nf3oq2ge3g 4 ай бұрын
Royal purple is a scam. Purple water.
@AtalixZero
@AtalixZero 2 сағат бұрын
Your opinion is interesting to me because I've seen Royal purple be tested on numerous non-biased KZfaq channels and it consistently ranks in the top three usually after Amsoil and Schafer's. When I had my engine rebuilt, after break-in, I was using a high quality oil but I was unhappy with the level of engine noise that I could hear. I bit the bullet and paid the money for Royal purple HPS since I don't run a cat, and literally upon startup all of the engine noise was gone immediately. I became a firm believer at that point and I've been using Royal Purple since. It strikes the right balance for me between cost and effectiveness.
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