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@randallstewart1753 жыл бұрын
There is really no reason why someone would find themselves in this "shortage" situation, except by careless error, and for that this a valuable video. Either the volume requirement is printed on the tank, or lack such, you start by measuring the amount required to fill the tank before you load the film. However, the issue of "how much" seems to repeat in Comments endlessly. Many seem concerned that they use the minimum volume of developer as a cost measure. When you consider the cost of time and money to shoot your photos, then the cost of film itself, the cost of chemistry per roll is almost negligible. The cost of using 50 or 100 ml more of D-76 1:1, Rodinal 50:1, or whatever you prefer is what, maybe a dime? So as a rule, use more than the minimum just be be safe. If you use highly diluted developer working solutions, you must also be sure that there is enough stock developer in your working solution to put enough developing agent in the tank. That is a more subtle problem.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Its a problem that I see continuously happen to new users, so wanted to share the reason more than the solution, but a two in one could make a better video. I always add 50ml just in case.
@danielslater14762 ай бұрын
Thank you! I suspected this was what was wrong with my last results, but now I know for certain.
@NicosPhotographyShow2 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@sollykhan2385Ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this great video, i'm def in the 'Picture' regarding developing. 🙂
@AdamGeorge-pb3fm11 ай бұрын
I like your talking style. My monitor is now perfectly cleaned from the inside.
@Antnie3 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for more of these videos!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Excited to share more soon.
@abelsilvan3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! Looking forward for the next video in this series.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Abel, more to come soon.
@Max-nv4fb3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you also get this error of to little liquid when you use third party reels. I use the patterson system and i bhought some kaiser reels recently. Appartly the reel moves up the column during aggitation thus creating the same error. Using a rubber band so it doenst move up is a solution that also works!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Yup, it can also happen like that, its a way less common issue but one should keep the same reels as the tank and center core manufacturer or use a rubber band ;)
@williamorford69663 жыл бұрын
Excellent Nicos .
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@ahmedal-saeed93743 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nicos that explain what happened to me too .
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Its a common mistake, but it's thankfully a step one takes and learns!
@Mistik20023 жыл бұрын
I have had similar issues using 120 Film in a Paterson Tank but not as bad as these, only really noticeable in the bright area on the edge of the film. I chatted with the Boss of Paterson at a show in the UK and he said to use the little twiddling stick that comes with the Paterson Tank to agitate when developing 120 Roll Film which is what I now do. I also recommend making sure the film reel is all the way to the bottom of the Centre Column when putting the reel in the tank, I have cut a little spacer which fits over the centre column, now the reel cannot move upwards. I also use 600 Ml of Chemistry when developing film in a Paterson Tank.. Hope this might be of use to someone.
@hermantoothrotpersonal3 жыл бұрын
Congrats for the skillshare sponsorship Nico!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Herman!
@juanmcmahon77653 жыл бұрын
Hi Nico. First of all, thanks for all your videos. Second: I develop all my TMax with TMax Dev and always use the rotating tank technique. BUT, I don't use the same times, nor the same dilution!!! If I try to develop a film roll with the same dilution and the same times I use in normal under normal developing, I get an overdeveloped negative. In fact, it happened to me once ... I understand that JOBO gives you special instructions for rotation development ... Gracias y saludos!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Hi Juan, interesting, I have never had issues with rotation, but its always done in a Jobo (except for this video). But as usual its all about what works for each one of us. ;) Saludos!
@randallstewart1753 жыл бұрын
When you use a rotation agitation, such as a roller drum, that is "continuous agitation". If you have a good working time/temp for intermittent agitation, one rule of thumb is to reduce the process time by 15% for the same film/developer using continuous agitation. You can fine tune the time form there. I would not vary the dilution while doing this, as you never want to be experimenting with more than one variable at a time...
@scoobysnaks943 жыл бұрын
awesome series idea!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@vicman19973 жыл бұрын
Great video Nico!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@HBDVM3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Please do more👍🏻
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
We have 12 in the works for season 1, so its coming soon!
@mikethomas10733 жыл бұрын
Good to know, thank you.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike! Hope it helps.
@ImperiousImages3 жыл бұрын
Great content
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Hope to slowly show more common issues and mistakes to help film users identify problems and improve.
@majki31443 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@Uwe_Ludolf3 жыл бұрын
I have had the same issue recently, when I used Ilfosol 3 instead of ID-11. I found it weird it happened when I changed developer, but also tried more developer. 540mL instead of 500mL, but then still had the issue. New hypothesis is, that it is due to my new/very fast stopbath, without agitation. I already did this with using ID-11, but the time for FP4+ is 7:30 (Ilfosol 3 1+14) vs 20:00 (ID-11 1+3). Because ID-11 works much slower, I haven't noticed the insufficient stopping there. I developed another roll tonight, now with a longer stop. I'll scan it tomorrow and see if it's fixed.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, it might also happen for other reason sometimes. I just knew this happens when you use less developer. But never heard of fast stopbath, or not agitating, what chemical is that?
@Uwe_Ludolf3 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow nothing special, just a very short (in time) stopbath. It always took me like a minuteto stop, pouring it in, closed it, agitate, pouring it out. Then I read that a stopbath should be 10-30 seconds, so I ended up with pouring the stop in and then poured it back right after. So maybe, the upper part of the film isn't stopped properly this way, although I use ~600mL of stopbath. On first sight, I don't see it on the negatives now. I'll let you know if I see it when I scanned them.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Let me know
@Uwe_Ludolf3 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow this roll was not completely without it, it has those kind of marks on only one or two frames.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
That seems to be strange with chemical issues, maybe its a light leak. Thats the next video...
@filippkashirtsev71703 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the rest of the series! I'm having an issue where I get black dots on my paper after development. It's not the film because the dots are not in the same place for multiple prints from the same negative.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Is it with new paper? Also are you using new chemistry?
@filippkashirtsev71703 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow The paper is old. I got it for free from someone's basement, however the package was sealed. The fixer was about 2 or 3 weeks old. All other chemistry was fresh
@trueblack67603 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice tip. Strange strip appears several time in my past.. Anyway, she looks cute!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its a bummer and has happened to me only one time before.
@ZisisKardianos3 жыл бұрын
Coincidentally I had this issue for the first time yesterday when I developed a roll of XP2 in my Paterson tank. I had a working solution of Tetenal C-41 of 500ml instead of the usual 1L. After the first development I lost some chemical by spilling out of the tank. It must have been around 490ml but that was enough for the dreadful stain to appear on the side. I don't agitate too much because both my Jobo and Paterson tanks don't hold well. So rolling the tank is probably not the best option for me. My question is, can I add 20ml of plain water in the mix and perhaps compensate the process by adding another 15"? From 3:15" to 3:30".
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
That is a question I cant answer, color chemistry is not as simple as black and white. I would suggest if you leak some chemicals to do what I did and rotate. Better that than add water and ballpark a time.
@randallstewart1753 жыл бұрын
Short Answer: Yes, you certainly can. I doubt you would see any difference if you did not extend the development time as noted. We are talking about a 4% dilution here. A lot of folks exceed that margin of error by sloppy mixing of new chemistry or excess exhaustion of reused chemistry. If your tanks leak enough to deter you from adequate agitation, you need to toss them out now and buy a better quality of tank. Paterson is the pits, but based only on price and reputation, I'm surprised you are having trouble with a Jobo (although I do not use them myself). If you want to use a roller system for developing, one blast from the past would be the Unicolor Filmdrum or standard developing tank. Since Unicolor was a leading exponent of using a powered drum roller base, it designed its tanks with gaskets which when properly used make them absolutely leak-proof. Unhappily, you'd have to haunt Ebay to find them these days.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
I dont have leaks on my Jobo but then Im using rotation and less chemicals so they probably don't reach the lid. The Unicolor option is not bad alternative.
@speedsnoop3 жыл бұрын
thaks. happen one time :)
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome! Its happened to most of us at some point.
@Crsmo3223 жыл бұрын
This happened to me the first time I developed two rolls of 35mm in one tank. Couldn’t figure out what had happened to the top roll. 😓
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Now you know! Its all to learn and grow. Hope next time it will work out well.
@loading123420003 жыл бұрын
Hello Nico, when is recommended to push the cap on the Jobo lid: before or after attaching? I have developed tons of reels in the the Jobo processor but I see this pushing cap technique for the first time in this video. Cheers
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure honestly. I think it helps prevent the loss of water or chemicals, but not 100% sure.
@ashley1scott3 жыл бұрын
Are you sure this works with Paterson tanks? As the drainage holes on the Paterson is around the edge of the lid
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Once the lid is on it should work fine, you do invert the tank with Paterson and it holds, right? So rotating should work just fine.
@ashley1scott3 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShow, I normally use the twiddle stick. Yes I guess as you invert it normally rolling it would work fine, just that I have only ever seen rolling marked on jobo tanks
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Lots of people use Paterson to rotate and even more inversion. But they do leak a bit.
@MegaMcdevitt3 жыл бұрын
Great video! could you do one on developing prints in the jobo drum tank? I keep getting issues when making 8X10 prints with my jobo cpe2. similar to this video, undeveloped marks on the top and middle of the prints and I'm finding it hard to get advice on how to fix
@FranciscoRodriguez-ug8gc3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I would love to see videos on what happens if you leave leave the film in the developer too long, or too short. Thanks!!!
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Will see if I can make it happen so we can all learn from it.
@stillben3 жыл бұрын
Would be helpful if you had different types of badly developed film and be able to identify what went wrong. C41 especially. Very hard to pinpoint.
@NicosPhotographyShow3 жыл бұрын
Will try my best, like you said so many variables with c41 it might be a series itself.
@stillben3 жыл бұрын
@@NicosPhotographyShowagreed I have wasted 50 rolls of c41 trying to find a reliable home set up. Gave up and now use burgeoning hipster developer firms in UK. Would like to do my own again one day though.