Aaaahh yess💖💖 we need to see more of their story too✨

Me too

i would love to see her past paralleled with the present as she falls in love with Lord Anderson and being able to remarry after Edmund's death

@@Monalisa-oi7bn love your idea!

@@Monalisa-oi7bnthat’s such a wonderful idea

She is a Dame for a reason

She can still be the voice, as Pen’s future voice looking back on her youth.

They need to keep Julie as lady whistle down Do not kill off Julie Andrew’s voice or the queen…. They both add too much to the show…

Me suddenly thinking Julie Andrew’s passed away. 🤦🏽‍♀️ I think she will continue to be used.

She is a true treasure.

Read the book, it fills in a lot of details. Pen was afraid her entire life. She didn't even have a voice in her own household. She had to debut one year early to find a husband against her will. She published her column to fight back. The book explains the Queen did care and she wanted to know she could have an alliance with Pen going forward. Basically, allegiance to the Crown. The Queen was pleased because Pen promised to be more responsible with her articles (i.e. the power of the pen - no pun intended). Pen was relieved because she didn't have to hide her identity anymore and no one could blackmail her. Pen could live her happily ever after with Colin and the babies.

In the book the queen isn't the one who puts out the reward, it's lady Danbury. Also, the one who reveals pen's identity is Colin, announcing he's very proud of her. That happens because Cressida is still lurking. That way, the entire ton already knows. And the bridgertons are delighted with pen being lady w. Contrary to the series, Eloise is the LAST one who finds out 😂

@@theninjacat7200 the show is a standalone piece, we don't have to read the book to better understand the show

Non si cosa hai visto ma ti confondi con il libro.

Yeah idk if the queen would have let herself be bested in such away or at least in her eyes.

From a storytelling POV for tv it does give a sort of slow burn effect on his character growth which in his arc would as they say in scriptwriting climax in his own romance story and then finish his character arc.😅

*rake

In the book Benedict did have a mistress!!! Tilly infact!!!!! Nway I love the way he is a free spirit in the series and is mmmh and aaahh answer/ sentences is kinda funny 😂😂

@@emmanyakweba4072 he had a mistress but she is not his passion.

😂😂😂 lmao I love this

THIS 👆 all of this agreed 🙌

I second that👆👆

I agree! I couldn’t even finish season 3. I don’t want to continue watching the stories I loved ruined by forcing current issues into them.

Agreed. They did Polin so dirty in season 3. Penelope and Colin romance felt like a side note in their own season. I don't trust them to do right by the characters. And why is it taking two years to film 8 episodes!?

i loved erverything so far, but negelacting Francescas Story so fast and turning the Story, with is mainly about her desire to become a mother, to a queer one, is just forced on her. She is feeling strange in all of her Siblings present because she has an introverted character. Not because she is gay.

Totally agree. It just feels that in the name of being inclusive they are destroying the essence of these amazing stories

I just started reading book 5 which is Francesca’s book but I have to agree they need to stick with the book and not take liberties with the ideas for the sake of ratings, views, and popular opinion. I hate that they brought a Michaela into it and thrust Benedict into a three way relationship with a widow and another man.😊

I liked Michael in the book. I can't like a Michaela. I'm not gonna watch again.

Agreed.

If you’re honest with yourself, you would admit that most of the changes have been an improvement.

They totally went out to make Penelope look horrible in the first two seasons. People might have missed her wearing a plain bronze dress in season one near the end. That look was very close to glowed up Penelope.

@@SofiiGolding I didn’t notice the bronze dress. I suppose she “bloomed” in the books though didn’t she so they followed that part of the story line. Those yellow dresses were horrendous and unflattering. She look so much better in Green.

@@cottoncandyflaps4347 yeah, when Sir Featherington died, all three girls wore beautiful but plain dresses. It was a blink and miss. I rewatched season one and thought wow, Penelope looks great in bronze for five seconds, if that. Why the hell do they pan over the wonderful parts so quickly. I haaate that so much. It wasn’t as bad in the first two seasons but the writer or editor developed ADD in season three. Ugh.

she's a lot of things, but stunning is not one of them.

@@alc4080 I don’t think women walked around with their hair down after they’re out. They would wear bonnets which the show said they got rid of. I’m fond of bedroom hair but not that century and women without sun protection would age so fast. The star is actually 37, which is great.

Colin and Penelope’s story has played out over the last 3 seasons, it’s not like viewers have missed out on it.

Realistically, as each season takes about 2 years to get to screen, they have to start making each season about more than one Bridgerton sibling.

What show were you watching? Yes he was included but it wasn’t “only” about it 🥴

@@lucying I agree! And it's aggravating when people say that their romance happened too fast; we didn't need to start from zero because we already knew so much about them, plus how much Pen loved him. All he needed to do was wake up to his own feelings, and it was beautiful and romantic!

He was pretty well featured. That's because we saw Anthony and Kate like just 3 times and there was no Daphne at all. He got pretty fair screen time but not more than Colin and Pen.

Aah agreed!!😍

Yes Portia!!! That would be great.

I prefer Violet’s back story.

Have grown to love Portia. She’s more complex than I thought.

I feel we can get an awesome story showing Charlotte as a young mother (flashing forward to the regency again dealing with her ne'er do well kids) while showing Violet and Edmund....and more of Lady D..I still have a suspicion that she and Vi's Dad had a kid. And yes! Portia's back story!!!

I totally agree the writers of the tv series should have kept Michael as a male not a female like in the book because I loved Francesca's story in the book also I was disappointed that there was nothing to do with Eloise running off and about to marry Sir Phillip Crane like it was in the book "To Sir Phillip with Love" since Eloise ran off to meet Sir Phillip Crane during the end of the book "Romancing Mister Bridgerton"

100% agree. It changes the whole core of her character and messes up the story with the overinclusion that at this point seems almost a cliché in storytelling by piggybacking on an already established world which to me seems like lazy writing

Totally agree! It’s one of the few stories that makes NO SENSE to change

It's entirely possible she's be pregnant (like in the book) when John dies, but the baby may be kept in the story. As for Michael, after reading the book, I'm glad they are changing it. That was the worst book of the series and the character deserves so much better than the book version of Michael.

Bought and paid for. They can do as they wish

Please, if they made Bridgerton like the books, all the male characters would be hated because they were all toxic and abusive in the books.

I haven't read the book, but I love the show. I just hate that every movie these days always have to add a gay scene. I have no issue with the gay population. I just dont care to see it. I guess I'll just go back to the old 40's and 50 movies. Oh well, to each it's own.

DC comics tried to do the very same thing with Gay Superboy and Bi Robin no. 3. They lost millions on that decision and people even lost their jobs.

Eu tem não gostei dessa ênfase dada a gays e lésbicas. Queria ver mais o amor de Colin e Penelope.

I was really looking forward to seeing Michael. Now my hopes have been completely tossed to the 💨 💨😭😭

Afff, se não mecherem nessa mudança repentina vai cagar tudo, vão ser cancelados

I did not mind the changes from book to tv rhat much😅 because the story was still the same just told diffrently with a twistBut. The core of each couple was STILL there from beginning to end in my opinion

Ask Shonda, Colin was supposed to be a virgin but she said NO for toxic masculinity

I guess the bridgertons really like sex

Good source material 😂 the books are hardly the height of literary prowess. They're trashy novels akin to mills and boon

Remember Designated Survivor? 🤦🏼‍♀️

Have you read the books to call them trashy. What you are getting on tv is only a bit of what the books are. And just because they are romance novels doesn't make them trashy. I don't like certain genres of books, but I don't go around throwing shade on them just because I don't particularly care for them. I have read a lot of romance, mystery, thrillers, and historical novels. And by far wouldn't call these trashy books, but to reach its own.

@@emmapowick If they were trash then you won't be able to see the bridgerton show😒😒they were so good that they adopted that and made season 1 and when it got success they changed the whole story even main character satisfy their modern & LGBTQ fans 😡😡and ruin the regency era novel and show.

The books are blahhh actually. If you want to read an interesting historical romance, read Julie Anne Long....her writing is far better

Y’all are so ridiculous, if they make all 8 seasons it’s reallly just fine if one or two are adapted to be queer, literally the whole point of the screen adaptation is to portray a version of 19th century London that’s much more inclusive of modern day values so why do you draw the line here? They’ve been honest about it from the beginning

@@lyle9793 nah, we all can’t be ridiculous if that’s how so many people feel. Doesn’t matter. I don’t think I can stomach this series anymore.

Exactly the same thing I told one of my best friends when she told me how outraged she felt by this gender swapping of Michael 😂😂

Precisely💖 It can become a dream🥹

But there'd be a lot of gossip generated by George IV and his marital situation.

Michael is my favorite character. I felt exactly the same as you. I am done with this now. I have a whole list of things I could have let pass. Just because someone is an introvert doesn’t make them homosexual. This killed it for me.

Are you saying Fran’s husband is a woman? I didnt catch that

@@teresalevingston6390 if you have read the book you'd know that the main romance is between francesca and michael (who was pining over her since the day he met her on wedding with his cousin john) but in the series they changed michael to Michaela i.e a woman the scene when john introduced her to francesca , and francesca was falling in first sight with Michaela which is wrong as Michael ( hero in book) was the one who was pining for her Netflix changed or I can say ruined the whole plot .

That’s what I thought too!

Good point. No need.

I was thinking the same n I wud have preferred pens identity remain a secret like forever except from her few loved ones . That wud have kept the excitement. But just my thought

Yeah, I don’t know how they’re gonna rescue that nonsense

Justice For Michael!😭

And Benedict is so adorable! Luke Thompson is a wonderful actor, and I can't wait to see him take center stage. Can't wait!

We’ll be waiting 2 YEARS!!! Couldn’t Netflix figure this out?

Completely agree! I am a fan of a capital R rake completely turn a new page and be completely infatuated and in love with that one special woman aka Sophie Beckett ❤😭

I’m not gonna expect much. That way I won’t be disappointed. I just skip scenes I dislike anyway.😁

That’s the genre tho. It’s just the way regency romance novels go.

True. Love Bridgerton but it the Season turns into Francesca and Michaela as a couple - not interested. Love the focus on Pen/Colin, the Mondriches, Violet and Lady Danbury's brother and the Queen. Benedict is funny too - especially when he's living his best life and being a big brother to Eloise giving advice.

I agree all over the place

The books were absolutely no _Harry Potter,_ not even _50 Shades of Grey,_ these stories are dear to very few of the people watching the show. And the author cosigns the changes and it's her work to do with as she pleases. Do you even know the logistical nightmare keeping them exactly to book accurate would be? And they won't be interesting translated to show if that happened. It's an *adaptation* for a reason

@@availanilahow would it be a logistical nightmare to keep it book accurate?

@@uvongcukana5440 the cost of keeping all those actors, navigating their other engagements, having the growing casts as the families grow, extra filming of all the flashbacks and the sheer amount of coordinating and managing filming so many actresses from behind the scene stuff to setting a quality stage for so many people. Then stories like Eloise's with all letter writing and an abus3r will be hard to adapt to screen, Daphne's rap3y parts just wrong, Colin's physical violence deplorable, not enough drama for Kate & Anthony for the screen, Sophie's staying on schedule across years with nothing to do, etc. And then let's not forget all the stories are pretty much the exact same story with different setting and people. Those books aren't of the right quality for faithful adaptations. Heck, even Anne of Green Gables had to change a lot to be screenworthy across a whole century.

By book accurate I think they meant keeping characters the same sex and the same proclivity. The sexual deviance makes no sense after establishing that it's still illegal. They've written in more problems than they need with trying to be inclusive in that way--and people are sick and tired of having the gay agenda in every single piece of media. Also the books were not the ensemble piece that the show has become and every season has proven how adept they are at finding highlights for smaller characters--so having Violet move out and hire Sophie to help take care of her and Hyacinth and Eloise is not would not be difficult--or have you forgotten how important the roles of maids and housekeepers were in season one? I havent. It would be really nice to get involved with the working class again. Also people seem to forget that in order for Eloise to have her happy ever after, Marina has to die...and like, soon. These writers have lost sight of the big picture and in their rush to include historically illegal activity to cater to a modern notion of romance and sexuality they have created problems for their audiences that no one wants to be invested in...which they knew would happen. Which is why they threw everything into season 3 when Netflix is famous for canceling shows after 3 seasons.

@@trimunal sexual deviance?? Gay agenda?? Modern sensibilities?? 👀 _Girl...!_ We are the same people that have always existed just with more human rights and more technology! All those hangings in the ISIL controlled areas in the Middle East back in 2010s, the current existence of the Bacha Posh and historical figures (even just in the literary world) like Daphne Dumaurier, Willa Cather and Oscar Wilde show that repression doesn't matter when humans have to be human out and out gender non conforming and gay laws be damned.

It was obvious for some especially book readers because of 1) the name and 2) the way she stumbled is similar to the effect of true love that Violet described. Add her mixed reaction to the kiss with John and voilà

Something new on the horizon was probably foreshadowing B’s love interest Sophie which he meets at the Masquerade ball they were speaking about in the hallway

She looked a bit disappointed after their (presumably first) kiss at their wedding and stumbled over her name in the exact way Violet described meeting their father...she is definitely gay for Michaela lol

It is I'm sure.

I agreed, to me, Franchesca seemed confused by meeting some family and not expecting it to happend that night and getting use to her new last name, also she is kind of akward and introvert… the fact that she had to introduce himself would be dissapointing to any new bride 🔥🔥🔥

Book Michael tries to get Francesca pregnant to force her to marry him, I’m glad they change the books because the book characters are far from great

i literally skipped all the scenes with that. it felt like boring filler.

Yeees agree that Benedict's sexscenes were soooo boring. And felt random in-between like interesting conflict between Pen's family and so

It's actually not their fault you don't see Simon anymore. The actor declined after the first season, being afraid to be type cast in the future.

@@roden70 I know Rege didn’t want to stay in the role. They should have recast it so the family continuity could have been preserved and we could enjoy more bits of their storyline. It really screws things up when shows have major role players just disappear, never to be seen or heard of. I am sure none of the actors would want to stick around or return for a few scenes in a season, but I wish they could. Now Francesca is married off and moved to Scotland. So apparently she didn’t get her own season, as we thought there would be. She was minimized from the start because of actor availability, and recast for season 3. Daphne is off ignoring her family. Anthony and Kate are in India. The Bridgerton world grows smaller each season. Season 4? Whatever. I have no speculation and am not excited as we will be waiting and waiting, and waiting some more. 😕

I heard she will NOT pass away

Queen doesn’t die till 1818. So I think she will still be there. Are we gonna replace her with Prinny? Gag me.

Compared to past seasons, Polin had very little romance in Season 3. All the other stories detracted from their storyline. I thought Season 3 was a total mess. Maybe I'm the only one that has this opinion, but I think Luke/Nicola have more chemistry in real life than as Polin on screen.

Sorry to disagree with you but I don't think we were watching the same series...Penelope's gowns in this Season 3 were GORGEOUS! The gowns in Season 1 and Season 2 were hideous. Too loud, too many colors and adorned with too many sparkles. They reflected the characters, I know but the dresses were eyesores. I love the elegance of this season's wardrobe. Every gown, suit was breathtaking. Also, I don't believe the ending was sad at all. The ending was as expected: Pen found her own voice and she wasn't afraid to speak up for herself. Perhaps you may want to read the books, it will fill in some details and show you the evolution of the characters. I read the books and Pen's evolution is right on target.

Me neither.

I didn’t like the lgbtq thing which seems so forced

Very disappointed making the show woke. The throuple wasn’t needed nor the McKayla storyline. You want to add LGBTQ then do it in the background not with the major characters. Shonda is trying to be woke instead of leaving the story the way it was written.

I don't mind Michael/a being a woman...I DO however mind that they set it up like she was making Francesca's heart skip a beat. That is a COMPLETELY different vibe that what the original love story was supposed to be. I was looking forward to Francesca and John being happy and then tragedy happening and finally the love between her and Michael/a blooming. Was it really so hard to give us that love story?

​@@EnolaElorieYeah I was so happy with Francescas marriage it didnt even occur to me that she and the cousin were gonna be a thing.

So is hoe

I love the fact you had a woman (Lady Danbury) who made it clear she would not tolerate any rakes in her family...and she would disown him completely if he hurt one of her friends.

I’m lost what is “Rake”?

Micheala is most likely meant to be Fran’s love interest (Micheal in the books changed to a woman in the show). But a les Eloise would make a lot of sense

​@@Kya0565yes I though Fran and Kilmartin were happy together so I assumed the cousin would be an interest for Eloise. I dont read the books though

@@sophiabreidfischer6242 they are happy together but shit goes down I’m not gonna spoil. Interested in how the shows going to play next season especially for Eloise

@tiga7592🤮

I agree! I thought that immediately! I've never read the books, so I didn't even know about a Francesca / Michael(a) romance. I think it should be Eloise and Michaela!

While I mainly agree with this, I also disagree partially. The thing is, when you only have 8 episodes to develop a story, having multiple storylines means you have to thread carefully, having a balance in what to show and what to hold and when to show and when to let go. This season, for example. Polin could have had more screen time, where we see the characters actually falling in love (ok, more Colin than Pen), instead of being apart most of the time, and heatedly arguing when together. I loved them, but I felt it was really cut short because of how many things were going on. Instead of having 5 or 6 stories, you might want to focus on 3, and how those branch out, affecting all the characters. Slowly foreshadow the upcoming stories, but don't try to get as many screen time for them.

@@blusky87 yes u explained this PERFECTLY!!

Benedie?

Benophie perhaps

Sophidic

Benephie

I want a lot of Polin scenes in Benedict's season like how they gave us so much Benedict in Polin's season. 😏

I canceled my Netflix too. I really only have it for Bridgerton. And I’m all done after this season. They ruined Polin by writing them so poorly and giving them so little screen time. They completely disrespected Benedict’s character development with such a thin, sex-obsessed story arc, and they blew up Fran’s infertility and grief storyline by having her disrespect her love with John so blatantly. I’m over it. Seriously.

And it’ll do just fine without you :) The show is still wildly popular, much more popular than it would have been if it stayed faithful to that poorly written dross. Shonda’s twisted writing made a silk purse out of sows ears 😂

😂

I cancelled mine as well, and no regrets to be found - between canceling shadow & bone, and this god awful season of a show i loved so mich, and JB being a brainless idiot, i'm done with their sh*t.

In the books it’s Lady Danvury’s grandson Gareth St. Claire.

I had a feeling that’ll happen because they were all playing together

Yes gareth is dead

That would be cute

probably. bc i think itd be more satisfying than introducing another whole new part of lady danbury's family

But I really like garret and hyacinth

This is the same type of men you meet on tinder lol. Bridgerton men are community dickks 😂

This is the same type of men you meet on tinder lol 😂

@@paracoco1761 omg but can they atleast yearn for me, have restless nights, be jealous AND for gds sake be good with words like: I burn for you. I can't sleep at night for wanting you. Even when I didn't like you, I lusted for you. It's the most maddening, beguiling, damnable thing, but there it is. I'm blushing writing this...

@@perriperri4142 girlie 😂

​@@perriperri4142 After doing all that, they're gonna give you syphilis.. 🫢

I disagree because in the books polin get married at 28 and 32 so I think Benedict is next also because they had wayyy too much Benedict scenes in season 3 to set him up for season 4

Maybe she'll meet Philip in season 4 but it won't be her season until 5

I still want Eloise with Theo since they had that great chemistry.

Yup

@@bestofluckareeba4305 boooooo

That's been clear since Season 1 Episode 1. XOXO

@@JamesBrown-ij1px I never watched Bridgerton can't afford Nexflix at the moment but If I did I'd watch it I love Period Historical television

@@JamesBrown-ij1px sorry my BAD I don't have Netflix but if I did have it I would be watching it o love Period Historical television the last thing I watched that was a period show was the White Queen

Nah nothing to do with the writers strike. JB all but came out and admitted that she's projecting her life into the characters. Should have written her own books to adapt

This is soo sad😢😢 ,so disappointed about all this , the only good show on Netflix and this happens

@@gisellegrell there’s an article where JB talks about this and her self-inserting herself as Francesca in her story. Like GTFO, it legit is the most absurd and the most insulting thing I’ve ever read. maybe she needs to consider another career, if she can’t separate herself from her art. I can’t believe Netflix allowed these agendas on this show. she literally took Francesca being introvert and being different from her siblings as “gay” honestly she has no brain cells , literally the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Because being introvert translates to being queer apparently- it’s infuriating!

True, it was mentioned in the books that Sophie was her father's out of wedlock child

I am getting a tad bit tired of Mondrich. Sophie is an illegitimate daughter of an Earl of Penwood. Are we woke enough to accept an English Eurasian actress like Jessie Mei Li? I wouldn’t mind. Lady Tilly looks way too much like Cressida. Pass.

What do you mean nothing happened? The Mondrich's son became the Baron of Kent. That's why they're now mingling in ton and even hosted their own ball.

@@user-xv5dn9vt7n What you're talking about started the Mondrich arch yes. But in the one of the last two episodes a figure, the lawyer asked to talk to them during an event. The scene cuts away and they never come back to that sequence.

I assume they will no longer inherit all the wealth and go down in society again in terms of class. I think it’ll be interesting to see it play out, and how they would handle it

@@Kya0565 I hope that will not be the case since he sold his gentlemen’s club. But it is a fear of mine. Bridgerton tends to go more with happily ever after so I’m hoping for happiness.

How about the really bad writing and direction of this season? Also, it can hardly be called inclusivity when right off the bat Bridgeton let us know this is a hyper realised version of the world and that era

It's not just you, trust me

Nope not just you.

It’s not just you. It definitely is ruining it!!!

yes. the books are so good. Why change everything.... Michaela is unnecessary

Do you it can take a whole entire day to shoot a scene that you’ll probably see on tv for less than a minute.

I’ve wondered the same thing. My assumption is it’s mainly the costume production

@@lucying Well, I wish they paid the same amount of care and detail to Polin's romance as they did the costumes and set designs.

@@GooniesGirlHuh? I don’t get your point, they got 3 seasons to develop their love story…

@@GooniesGirl Although I do get that it was a bit of a weird story in the end, like how they kissed in the street at night and it seemed like they’d made up and then all of a sudden they were back to being not ok.

I honestly hate the Cinderella story, because it would mean yet another woman is saved by a white privileged man. I also heard that book Benedict did horrible things to Sophie, and I definitely do not want to see any male-to-female abuse in Bridgerton. Really hoping they would change Benedict's storyline for the next season

​@@maiaklimenko6614in the book, Benedict is abusive and manipulative... Even blackmails her

Well, Julia quinn focused on writing something realistic. Sophie was an illegitimate child from a rich man. She had an abuser stepmother and led her to be poor. Benedict helped her in many situations and was terrible, but it was the reality he was from the upper class.

@@luisinapividori1359I agree 👍🏻

@@luisinapividori1359 calling a Cinderella Story realistic is something else. they are Bodice Rippers, not Historically accurate Period Pieces. And the Bridgerton Show is pure Escapist Fantasy, which makes it even worse that the Men in these books behave so terrible. but not because it is realistic, but because the Author apperantly thinks that is indearing.

As someone that didn’t read the books I thought this season was better than season 2

Season 2 and Kanthony are the Best