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Love it! I mean when you’ve got several thousand pipes at your disposal, it seems a shame not to let it rip!

🤢 Now I know why Catholicism is shrinking in Western countries... it's because of the "French style" 😂

Oui 😁c'est ça :)

It can produce 110 dB at the floor. Loud enough

Exactly John !!!

The music is the result of Tourette syndrome.. 🤣

​@@michaelm5926and you are the result of ignorance at its maximum splendor.

@@Talehs___ now now there's no need for snobism here. He did leave a smiley face 😆

@@rotunda57 Joke after joke, the truth emerges.

Agreed. It also demonstrated the awesome power of this instrument. 🌴☀️🌴

Definitely worked for me. I’m an organist. Wish I could improvise like that.

The organist wants the people to leave at the end of the Mass :)

Where I played, the people stayed seated just to listen to the postlude. The only person I would want to leave is you.

Right... but Olivier Latry can play whatever he wants alone at home or with the few false intellectuals who pretend to like this contemporary noise. Contemporary art is mostly elitism, by which certain people try to pretend that they are better than everyone who has taste or, at least, two ears. Sure, this music is complex. It isn't good. I'd also argue that it isn't very intelligent music. Latry or whoever regretably tolerates that he mistreats the mass-goers in this way should understand his role not only as a liturgical organist, but also as someone who performs to a public who hasn't quite chosen to hear him. Latry shouldn't play with pride. That is exactly the contrary of what his job entails (Musicam Sacram art.62). If he wants to, he's free to do so in a private concert for the 10 or so musicologists who'd want to endure that. This sort of unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music is a sort of badge, that posey snoots show to distinguish themselves from the "uneducated" and their so-called ignorance, unaware that they're the ridiculous court people, clapping at the naked emperors fine clothes.

@@Rudolph1722 Contemporary art is just as elitist as traditional art. The world of music and art as a whole is somehow competitive. This doesn't necessarily implies that you are on a constant race, as those skills you acquire serve other purposes than surpassing your opponents. Those skills must be particularly special to meet the standards of the titularity in Notre Dame de Paris, wich happens to be the highest aspiration of any french or even european organist. Latry, or whoever is playing, isn't there for no reason, he wasn't chosen randomly. He met the criteria, a big achievement. Of course, the parishers didn't choose who they wan't to listen to, just like they can't choose which organ, but I can assure you that this "noise" doesn't bother any of them. Also, it seems like you are mistaking pride with passion, and there's nothing better than being passionate in your job. Notre Dame de Paris has a long history of what you would call "noisy" musicians and it happens that they were the best careers of their time too. Wonder why... The art. 62 in Musicam Sacram doesn't state instructions on how the organist should play (you aren't forbidden to enjoy the music you play), and not only that, but also encourages him to contribute to a "powerful elevation to the Divine and to the edification of the faithful", and the art.67 demands to "enrich the sacred celebration according to the true nature of each of its parts, and encourage the participation of the faithful": there's nothing better than Notre Dame de Paris and its musicians, then. I'm agnostic and I can tell that these masses and their music bring me closer to God than any other using a few set of flute-sounding pipes or a piano. This organ itself is intentionally "noisy" (powerful). Its wide range of extremely powerful reeds was made to impress, as requested by the cathedral back then; what's the point of it if you aren't using them? What's the point if you aren't drawing all the stops by pressing that tutti button at least once? Does it sounds noisy? Nah, it sounds powerful and inspiring. Don't get me wrong, I like soft organ music too, but if you are keeping the slow and monotonous liturgy forever, just remove every big organ, replace it with a single-registered portatile organ and stop wasting money, just like the early Middle Ages. After all, the pipe organ developed into what we know today to innovate and expand its capabilities and overcome that monotony, allowing to produce way more complex music. You can either like it or not, but saying his audience is wrong is plain blatant and rampantly ignorant by the fact that you are judging them purely by their musical taste; I like it the same as I like gregorian chants or romantic operas, and I'm not such a thing as "a fake intellectual who pretends to like his contemporary music". I might be mistaken, but you seem to be one of those who say that everything was better in the past, a repeating topic among all the artists of our history when a new artistic movement is born, and being repeatedly proven wrong. You started by insinuating that contemporary musicians and their followers were like that merely to be superior to the "uneducated and ignorant", yet calling them "false intellectuals" and their "unintelligent, insipid and atrocious music" taste exposes your hypocrisy. It is precisely that kind of people who have some kind of superiority complex. I'm not trying to convince you to like it, and I will repeat: you can either like it or not, but don't judge *people by their musical tastes*; keep it to yourself. I hate heavy metal and I'm not calling its followers braindead because of that PD: to put the video itself in context I would like to refer to the art.65, particularly here: "it may also be played solo at the beginning before the priest reaches the altar, at the offertory, at the communion, and at the end of mass". This "noisy" improvisations usually take place at the end of the mass, which is called "sortie" in France. They are common, and parishers love it

@@Rudolph1722 ​ who cares what Rudolph 1772 has to say? NOBODY. 🖕🏻😅

@@madberlin now, really, I'm in pain. A lot of pain. I ache horribly. I just can't believe this would happen to me. My life is over. The very famous madberlin, whose opinion is, in contrast to mine, so valued by the general public has declared my own opinion invalid. What am I to do? I must flee the world, for even in the forests and over the mountains, there will be no place where my words won't fall on deaf ears, now that the great madberlin has spoken. Oh woe! It is as though my mouth has been sewn shut!

May be someone here should open his/her ears and mind to life as it is in 2023. I live in Denmark and in our church we are incredibly lucky to have 2 very skilled organists. One of them is considered to be one of the best, if not the best improvisator in the country. He plays Bach etc. and every single masterpiece by the old French composers ( and former organists of the Notre Dame!) almost prima vista as well as he makes improvisations over the service of the day as a postlude. And we all love him for it Nobody leaves before has ended playing. He is an Asperger with very special skills that have brought him around the world, and you can always tell his mood when you hear him play. Smile - and very often you’ll get a smile in return😊 - And I forgot to mention what happens if you put him in front of a Hammond B3.

Its so musical to my ears! I love latry

@@chrisandhisdrums4215 I can't wait to hear this glorious instrument back in it's home & being played again!

Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-)... But it suits the Catholic Church: Highway to hell@@markcooke729

Yes. Its a lot a noise with absolutely no music.

@ulfnorberg You're not a fan of Latry then?

Yes, I'd say playing is the right word.

​@@jasons8479Do you have any idea of ​​the musical complexity behind this, each chord with each modification, for an absolute uneducated person like you to come and give an opinion on something so complex?

YES

Probably drove out all the non-evil ones too.

That`s it 😁! Like the medieval dragonheads above the entrances of the scandinavian and slavic stave-churches: A kind of double ensurance, added to the magic of the christian cross... assisted by the pagean gods from the viking past, to keep all evil spirits and Trolls out :)

Or bratty kids and their annoying tourist families.

Vraiment :)

No tierce-de-picardy indeed! It's overrated in my opinion. Minor chords are not necessarily sad; just darker.

Who wants to try to play like a "genius" with tourette syndrom

Karajan loved it to hand over his Maestro Stick to a critical mind: ''Show me, what you mean... ! '' (in german: ''...bitte schön... machen Sie es mir vor '') Years later, there was trouble with the orchestra about a Mahler Symphony, which Karajan in parts wanted to be performed faster than possible... Suddenly the First Cellist came around the orchestra to Karajans pult and said: ''Maestro, machen Sie es mir vor'' (Try Playing that:) It must have been an extremely silent moment, meanwhile not few of the Berliner Philharmonic Members faught like Lions with themselves, to supress a broad smile :) And we all know that situation: It gets worse, when we are not allowed to smile😶‍🌫🤥😏🤧🤣

It could have also been in relation to the text of the sermon or if it was a feast day in the church! French organs at full throttle have a very distinctive tone which suits improvisation such as this perfectly suiting to the Roman Catholic liturgy. Such a shame we didn't get to hear the whole thing!

Music's not describing anything

@@orgue2999 yes it does!!🎶🎶🎶

Rubbish

​@@darthlinathegreat7489how scary

It's Vincent Dubois, for sure.

@@milesedgeworth51 Why ?

@@xavier659 because of this style, with lot of accords like toccata, and the harmonic style, very modal, in a style which approach Florentz 😉

@@milesedgeworth51 Not confident whetiher this could be qualified as "modal" tgiven the chords I could (hardly) discern (A #, B, g, d, a), but you might be right. There is, anyway, a grandiose and impressive pathos which Latry did not get me used to. So that could be a second reason why you'd be righr ! ;)

Probably not. It was improvised on the spot. This is it.

@@dnwitteI do not want to imagine, how many improvisations of this value by Widor, Vierne, Messiaen & Co are lost: not written down ...and not even recorded like this one.

😁:)

It's sadder to me that they so loudly condemn something they don't understand.

@@dnwitte Yes indeed. On the co trasy most of them are used to primitive pop or rap genres which dont have too much in common with true music....

I am evangelisch... but i never underestimate a catholic Mass in roman language again :) When there was the orthodox movement in the times of Cardinal Lefèvre more than 25 years ago, some churches in Germany followed him and returned to a Latin Liturgy... Being young, curious and a Lutheran, I went there, to be prepaired for the many catholic Status-Quo discussions at that time, ...for to understand better, what they were talking about... Wow... what a journey: It made me understand, how the architectural styles of medieval european churches (especially the cathedrals !) were designed, ...were developed and optimized ''around'' the unique sound of the Latin Language :)

C' est fort :)

search "sortie." kinda French for improvisation.

Olivier latry is a genius

.....and I had the chance to see (and hear) Pierre Cocherau at Notre Dame on a sunday mass. Improvisation at its best !!! Old French tradition. Très bien fait, Maitre Latry !!!! But you should also hear Monsieur Latry accompanying (??) the Magnificat Royal.. So touching, so straight, so heart-warming. I listen to it almost every night. Wonderful !!!

Definitely not! Gigout was not nearly as dissonant as this improv

Broad smile: I wrote something similar here eleven months later :)

You are a stupid shit

@@elgar57 It's a term of expression, grow up kid.

Sorry, we don't need a "Messaein". Not even a mad "Messaein"🤣

Déjà, on écrit : "Messiaen". Cela nous démontre déjà bien votre niveau de connaissances musicales. Vous n'avez rien compris. Limitez-vous à ce que vous pouvez apprécier.@@michaelm5926

Notre Dame was on fire.. as we all know.. 😉

I heard from Britain, that in one church the amount of concert visitors must be counted before letting them in. If there are not enough people, the deepest 64` Bass Register of the Organ may not be used in the concert... because of resonnances rising like waves in a storm. Maybe someone reading this knows about the name of this chrurch ?

@@GermanGreetings I thought there only was two 64" ranks in the world, one being on the Midmer-Losh in Atlantic City. So yours must be the other.

We call it Trance :)

Virgil Fox said that he himself, had played for hours in a trance; [book: "Virgil Fox (The Dish)"]. And I also read of an observer who saw Virgil's eyes rolled back while playing; (a known sign of possession). And I have been “pounced” on myself; so I am not trying to be mean to anybody. (And GermanGreetings, I am going to try to work on a reply to your long comment).

@@jgreg9706Thank you for answering - and sorry about my `Trance`-joke: it`s a french word :) German normally is a rich language - but we lacked many words about kitchen, wellness e.g. Our cultures were quite different because of tzhe antique roman Limes-Wall. France was far more influenced by the toman culture, meanwhile german tribes had to be forced until the xear of ca. 1000 AD, to take over Christianity... we filled our vocabulry up with French first, it was Europes Court Language No1... English and Italian came later and became stronger then... the court Language became english, many german blue blooded families are related to english royals til today...as you know I suppose. It`s fascinating, what you tell about Virgils `Ekstase, Trance, Meditation, inner journey` I thought about the New Testament, were the devifels talked `in tongues` - Zungenrede in german. Medieval Ministrels are often painted with closed eyes... all that fits to Virgil, rolling his eyes `inside`.

"Comme d'habitude"... Pauvre ignorant! Olivier Latry est un musicien (un grand maître) qui est le digne successeur de Pierre Cocherau. Le traiter de fou est une très grave insulte mais qui révèle bien votre bêtise (musicale) et votre méchanceté. Passez votre chemin et laissez les personnes comme nous que cette musique touche, l'apprécier...

​@@Mirage5BR You must have misunderstood me, his improvisations are crazy. I couldn't improvise something like that. It reflects the French tradition started by Tournemire and followed by Cochereau... I'm more sympathetic to the branch started by César Frank and followed by Vierne, but that branch is dead, so... I don't know what offended you, maybe some translation problem between English and French, it can happen... but I'm not knocking Latry. So please forgive the "ignorant" and enjoy music.

@@xReMmiXX He did it to me too---totally flamed me out of misunderstanding my comment. The guy doesn't seem to understand English expression and goes straight to rage and insults.

Quel commentaire idiot !

Le problème est que personne ne connaît ce "Sietze"... 🤣 S'il était bien meilleur, ça se saurait !

These are the people who think the music of Marty Haugen and Bob Schutte represents the crest and pinnacle of Catholic musical expression.

Which is why French improvisations are so well structured.

Don`t slip through under the basic fences. That`s far too simple. Do you bash all the things, you do not understand in life ?

If you don't understand this, you can just say so.

Actually no it's not.

Allez, encore un commentaire d'ignorant empli de bêtise. "Il doit être puni"... mais quel con ! C'est lassant de lire ces commentaires "bas de gamme".

He is perhaps the most highly respected and distinguished organist in France, working at the absolute center of the French nation. But OK, he's unprofessional. SMH

Il n'est pas professionnel ? Il est professeur d'orgue au Conservatoire ! "Il doit être puni..." : quelle blague !@@dnwitte

@@Mirage5BR Je sais, d'où viennent ces gens ?

OK ! Alors, votre commentaire très insultant est encore plus idiot que ce que je ne pensais. Mr. Latry est quelqu'un de très brillant et quoi que vous en pensiez d'extrêmement professionnel. De plus d'une grande modestie.@@dnwitte

If you don't understand this in it's own context, and judge it from your own context, that's ok, but does not say anything helpful on the way the mass in the Notre Dame is completed (after the Ite missa est) by Dubois or Latry.

Virtually every great church in France begs to differ.

It is not a baby.. it is satan himself! Cacophonic bullshit! Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-) But this cacophonic bullshit suits the Catholic Church: Highway to hell

Such a rude little girl.

Many live in a neurotic "dreamscape" and block out all conflicting reality. But I think this (residing in the darkness) is a personal choice. The alternative is a constant battle against those who would "pull" you into to their "nether world"! But I say, don’t look down some rabbit hole! “look UP, and lift UP your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh” [Luke 21:28].

Dear Francois, your understanding of music sounds to me slightly reduced. Sorry to say that.......

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Thank God this satanic music is still silent in Notre Dame for a while ;-) @@dieter1457

Mais pauvre ignorant, vous ne lui arriverez jamais à la cheville ! Vos commentaires idiots ne font que confirmer votre ignorance.

Gênant ? Tout comme votre commentaire blessant. Passez votre chemin, pauvre ignorant...

Since it's called a 'sortie', maybe you should see yourself out.

You obviously try to defend something `pure`. Accept God being more, than we can imagine, something borderless... My wife is from Syria and I invited her to Cologne Cathedral. After we had enlighted a candle for her mother in Damaskus, leaving the cathedral hand in hand and total devotion... outside, begging a fresh coffee for ''help'' to survive this giant experiance, she silently said after a while: Christianity has so many more treasures by its music history over 1000 years... Islamic music was ''haram'' in all those centuries; and as we all know: for Taliban & Co even until today... Another example: When young people intend to study church music, the first introduction by University-Literature is very often about the very special chance and responsibility as a 'Cantor', to get people ''back'' to church by cultural fascination (singing, instruments, orchestras, a big event like Matthäus-Passion with church-choires and instrumentalists from neighbourhood-communities and so on)... The Cantor inspires people to get (or to go onm being) fascinated by a non verbal christian-inspired alchemy-process. For many active members in modern chruch communities this often is the only, maybe even the last or the true basic anchor, not to leave, but to stay `in` and act. `Many paths lead to Rome`, don`t they ? And didn`t Jesus invite the underdogs, the outsiders, the poor and ill ones, even whores, soldiers...the profanes - totally borderless... Sacred and Profanity are not rivals, they do not need to be seperated: it`s one world, being lit by one sun :) Let`s make a simple counterproof: stretch out your hand 10 cm above any table or cupboard close to you... Do you see the shadow of your hand on the surface ? If you found him: Where is the light ? And who depends on whom ? Who of both is stronger ? Who is a symbol for dark, which one for 'the' light ? My conclusion and advice: Don`t be scary about the dynamic of life, its diversity, its contrasts. I think Jesus wants us to go out by open heart to enjoy all that, sharing your joy with relatives, he wants us to be strong. If you don`t like Oliviers improvisation in this video: Ok, make your choice :) But Oiiviers music is not an attack on your `fortress` of belief. It`s easy: Say no and go further. We do not need to judge something as black or white... I did not like Wagners 'Tristan and Isolde'... Guess, what changed, when I became 50 years old :) Wow little German... you should have become priest after all... no, I chose another way and began to ask: Aren`t we all failing professionals, by being allowed to be incomplete... simply independant... free in the quality of a devote, divine sense ? I understand Latry on his level, when I listen to his music. He wants to be both: a modern profane Cantor, with a hot shining sencere inside him, walking through lonesome deserts and overwealming old fashioned borders in music like a fearless norse from Normandy... J' aime la France, cette Cathédrale, sa Grand Orgue, Latry and his visions, like they took place in the earliest Church, in the days of Paulus - and wasn`t especially Paulus himself a deeply transformed Character ? Thank you for your comment - I totally disagree to your fear. But as you see now, you made me `work this subject` far deeper than usual 🌱 Love from here, vive Notre Dame et sa Reine !

Eh bien, remettez vous en question et réécoutez, vous apprécierez. 😀

@@Mirage5BRThank you for your patience...

Thank you ! It's normal, I defend Mr. Latry because all these people criticize for no reason and are very aggressive. They don't even know him. Calling him unprofessional and demanding that he be punished is outrageous. Thank you for your support because Mr. Latry, who is the worthy successor of Pierre Cochereau does not deserve such criticism. (excuse me for my limited english 🙂)@@GermanGreetings

@@Mirage5BR Don`t worry...your english is not limited :) I was astonished about this aggression... but this night full of heartbeats, nightmares and much music, to balance that about one a clock, I switched to an Organ-Video from the Basilca in ''Kevalaer sur Rhein'' (comme francais, Vous comprenez ''sur'' )in N-W-Germany (It`s not as famous as Lourdes, but many people are going on a pilgramige to Kevelaer. Maybe you know it anyway). The Organ has power, 'she' is inspired by french organs as many old and new organs in W-Germany, freshly restaured ... and the Organist Elmar Lehnen there is fantastic... Mais zut alors: the same there as well... aggressive and stupid comments ! Thank you for answering ! We keep an eye on that :) I lnow a young american Lady, living in Paris since years now, we are `correspndance`-friends since many years now... we cried together `per Email` live at the screen, when Notre Dame burned down... my first thought that night... the Organ!!! I grew up with `her' majestic power, Apparition, Diex pami nous, Vierne` - and even I live close to Cologne, Altenberg in between wonderful organs: They all are `enfants de la Reine a Notre Dame`. Love to Paris, Mirage ! I take a break... There were so many tears last night, thoughts, I was shocked... because we are so rich and blessed, living in this beautiful world... and those strange guys are angry about everything... Je vais retourner `ici`... I am glad, there is a good old Mirage above Olivier Latry, to protect and defend him. Au revoir, que Dieu vous protège !

A huge thank you for this beautiful message as well as for the instruments you are talking about and which I will discover this weekend when I have free time. A little clarification about me: I speak French but I am of Belgian nationality (French-speaking part of our small country). Thank you again for everything and for your support which is very pleasing! Que Dieu vous protège également !@@GermanGreetings

widen you horizons :)

stay quiet my heretic friend

🤣👍 Best comment ever to this cacophonic noise!

@@michaelm5926 If you don't understand this in it's own broad context and feel teh need to judge it from your own, that's ok. But it does not do anything helpful or say anything meaningful on the way the mass has been completed by Dubois or Latry - without doubt 2 of the best organists in the world at this moment. Please try to keep an open mind to things that are new to you.

@marcopol217 the same answer to you.

What nonsense. Latry and Dubois are not free jazz pianists. And I'd say the highway to hell is paved by the likes of Marty Haugen and Bob Schutte.