Why US Navy and US Air Force Use Different Refueling Methods

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0:00 How long can a fighter jet fly for without aerial refueling?
2:33 Why was the flying boom developed?
3:44 KC-97 Stratofreighter's major flaw
4:51 Aerial refueling from a KC-135 Stratotanker
7:32 why aircraft have a refueling slipway
8:19 War Thunder (sponsor)
9:16 Refueling stealth aircraft in the air
10:29 What happens if aerial refueling boom or hose cannot be retracted
10:49 The downside of the KC-135 Stratotanker
11:04 The Boom Drogue Adapter (BDA)
12:05 The limitations of the Boom Drogue Adapter
Why the US Navy uses its most sophisticated fighter jets fuel other aircraft, how aerial refueling can help airplanes save on fuel and carry more payload, what made the F-4 Phantom notoriously difficult to mate with, and finally, how using a slower fuel transfer method can in fact speed up the refueling process, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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@NotWhatYouThink 2 ай бұрын

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@skoldmo762 2 ай бұрын

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@LordBobeus-to9yz 2 ай бұрын

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@VGACGAEGA 2 ай бұрын

Best segue ever

@dedwoodgaming6119 2 ай бұрын

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@PonyK98 2 ай бұрын

Kid: Dad. What are those two planes doing together? Dad: They are mating son

@debashis169 2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@cruisinguy6024 2 ай бұрын

I definitely read the dad in a Hank Hill voice

@lweberk 2 ай бұрын

That's how airplanes are made, son

@Michael_Brock 2 ай бұрын

Btw I did see 3 planes in serial formation drogue formation.

@seansingh4421 2 ай бұрын

@@Michael_Brocksometimes planes experiment with other planes son to keep the “fire” going

@OrionArmwrestling 2 ай бұрын

"A boomer, laying on their belly, passing gas." - Not What You Think

@bgold2007 Ай бұрын

Like the first gals smile

@unrealzman68 Ай бұрын

This line killed me 😂

@bigblue6917 Ай бұрын

If that's what they do then I think we could all qualify for that job. Just remember you're a confined space so nothing too spicy

@Richtshn06 Ай бұрын

This!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂

@therealdohos2607 2 ай бұрын

I Laughed out loud when u inserted the warthunder sponsor after the hourly price of the simulator

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

Either losing money to refuel those jet, of losing to the snail 😂

@z0phi3l 2 ай бұрын

Warthunder needs a mod to practice in air refueling !!!

@user-gu8qi4me8x 2 ай бұрын

I actually agree @@z0phi3l

@diadromes8000 Ай бұрын

@@z0phi3l vtol vr does... as the craft being refueled

@BBerkow Ай бұрын

I was about to comment the same thing lol great transition!

@abc-coleaks-info3180 2 ай бұрын

If the “birdie” is old, bent or slightly damaged the damn thing will often oscillate in a figure eight pattern requiring the Naval Pilot to split the difference and aim for where it will be when he gets there.

@trumanhw Ай бұрын

On booms, the camera should be near // on the control surfaces, significantly closer to the receptical, allowing far more precise control & viewing.

@bigblue6917 Ай бұрын

"If the “birdie” is old, bent or slightly damaged the damn thing will often oscillate in a figure eight pattern" Happens to the best of us.

@michaelmckeever2734 2 ай бұрын

I lost count of the number of ARs I've done. One time, over Maine on our way to a deployment, we disconnected from the KC-135 about 6-9 times because our orbit was over a thunderstorm and we couldn't maintain contact. Quite literally the most stressful AR ever.

@AugmentedGravity Ай бұрын

10:20 That is not a Navy F-35C, thats a USMC F-35B. It is however correct that both the B and C use the probe and drogue system, in contrast to the Air Force A version with the traditional Air Force boom type. Both systems have their advantages and disadvantages.

@anotherbacklog 2 ай бұрын

Now thanks to this video I can never look at aerial refueling the same way again

@fuzzybloodpc9291 2 ай бұрын

9:54 I thought that was a still image!!

@NotWhatYouThink 2 ай бұрын

Yeah I know!

@stalincat2457 Ай бұрын

It wasn't what you thought eh?

@skenzyme81 2 ай бұрын

That thumbnail reminds me of my first *"aerial refueling"* in middle school history. Thanks Miss Blom! You'll always be twenty-two in my dreams.

@opprox 2 ай бұрын

😋 22?????

@CapSora 2 ай бұрын

AYO??

@chugachuga9242 2 ай бұрын

Middle School?? 💀💀

@Snoopsthecat 2 ай бұрын

what

@taesssi 2 ай бұрын

lmao "Incase a tanker gets too excited and cannot retract the boom....." - NWYT

@WhiteCoastRS 2 ай бұрын

NWYT? more like NSFW

@SwordOfApollo Ай бұрын

"If your boom extension lasts longer than 4 hours, seek medical attention."

@WhiteCoastRS Ай бұрын

@@SwordOfApollo BRO WHATS THE TIMESTAMP HAHA

@ronparrish6666 Ай бұрын

Why is there a smile on her face when he makes contact

@airbusa-400m3 Ай бұрын

@@WhiteCoastRS10:30

@timbacchus Ай бұрын

This is the first time I have see a film of Airforce One air refueling. Thanks for that.

@davidemartorana4708 2 ай бұрын

Sex bots really like videos on military Aviation, Who would have thought

@Ilix42 2 ай бұрын

It's all the aerial mating. Really gets them going.

@anotherbacklog 2 ай бұрын

Extra kinky

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

😂

@SpaceMonkeyBoi Ай бұрын

@@Kenny-yl9pc it's a robot designed by the US government to combat the declining birthrate. It breaks into people's homes and abducts people's fathers to use them for reproduction. It's why so many kids these days grow up without a father.

@Yourlocalpacificislander Ай бұрын

get ready to see planes doing bad stuff one u try searching "arial refeul"

@curiousmindshubofficial 2 ай бұрын

Super informative video! It’s amazing to understand just how critical in-flight refueling is for maintaining the operational range and effectiveness of fighter jets. Your breakdown of the process and its importance was perfectly clear. Thanks for shedding light on such a pivotal aspect of modern air combat!

@carlsoll 2 ай бұрын

9:55 Woahh O.O *that* was a video :o

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for pointing it😂

@Tobinator7274 2 ай бұрын

was thinking the same thing lol

@iskandartaib 2 ай бұрын

Thanks, this was a great deal more informative than I thought it would be. Learned quite a bit.

@capitandelespacio 2 ай бұрын

I remember how hard was trying to refuel in-flight my F-14 Tomcat.... (in the NES version of Top Gun).

@cagin5 2 ай бұрын

Gasped at 19:14 seeing that NATO AWACS almost bump into the tanker!

@geopolitix7770 Ай бұрын

Yeah some new flight suits required after that one!!

@koryhardy9594 2 ай бұрын

30mins trying to stable 2 aircraft for refueling is just insane work 🤯

@unironicaluser1867 2 ай бұрын

yea i couldnt mate for 30 mins either

@johnsmithe4656 2 ай бұрын

@@unironicaluser1867 I can go for like an hour.

@user-gu8qi4me8x 2 ай бұрын

@@johnsmithe4656wtf

@ThorsonWiles 2 ай бұрын

From what I've heard about the KC-46, when the receiver is backlit, meaning the sun is close to being directly being the receiver, the digital camera's have an issue with even seeing the receiver aircraft, let alone where the boom needs to be flown into. (In my experience, in life, not anything related to this, the mark 1 usually has an advantage over tech. Meaning the eyeball in the rear vs. the camera provided image in the front.)

@robertheinkel6225 Ай бұрын

True to a point. Not totally blind, but limited visibility. The newer color three D system should fix it.

@geopolitix7770 Ай бұрын

@robertheinkel6225 mark 1 is handy but if you're near some naughty boys who might want to have a potshot at you at night, the option to refuel in the pitch dark with the night vision tech might be a welcome improvement?

@dknowles60 Ай бұрын

and the KC10 did not have any problems, the Air force for got the Idea of KISS keep it simple stupid

@petesheppard1709 2 күн бұрын

This has been the core of the problems getting the KC-46 into service.

@Ice_Karma 2 ай бұрын

Always great videos! BTW, in 'scarce' and 'scarcity', the first syllable sounds like 'scare', rather than 'scar'. ♥😻

@No1DiscoveryTV 2 ай бұрын

For the past 100 years air-to-air refuelling has been the exclusive preserve of military aviation to project power across the globe

@johnsmithe4656 2 ай бұрын

Yummy.

@gregparrott 2 ай бұрын

While inflight refueling saves gas, I very much doubt it saves money. An airline: -) Must buy and maintain a fleet of tankers, as well as train boom operators. -) The pilots of the passenger/freighter aircraft have to be trained/qualified for inflight docking -) Airports en route would have to be schedule for the possibility of an unscheduled landing because weather, malfunctions, etc, prevented the inflight refueling. -) Here's the kicker......LIABILITY...Imagine weather or operator error causing a collision, killing hundreds and the loss of two aircraft.

@DoubleMrE 6 күн бұрын

Excellent doco! I knew a lot about aerial refueling, but I learned a lot of stuff I didn’t know. Thanks! 😊👍👌

@ChookyChuck 2 ай бұрын

At 21:46 there is an omega aircraft refueling a drone. In the mid 1990's I designed the 707 fuel system modifications for the 1st Omega Tanker. Omega contracted AEL/Tracor to modify one of there 707 Aircraft to be a hose and drogue tanker. The fuel system modifications installed two large Aerial Refueling pumps in the wing belly tanks. These pumps were connected with 4 inch diameter fuel lines to 2 removable pallets. Each pallet contained an FR300 hydraulic hose reel systems. These pallets where part of the B-kit and were designed to be removed from the aircraft in about an hour. With a removable Air Refueling B-Kit the Aircraft could perform either civilien or aerial refueling missions. The Aircraft had two hose reels for redundancy so that ocean crossing could be performed safely with only one tanker. It could deliver over 500 gallons per minute which was the highest flow rate for a 2 5/8 inch Inner Diameter Hose and Drogue system at the time. I have not kept up with what improvements were made to the Omega system over the years. It would be interesting to see how they are using it today.

@44R0Ndin Ай бұрын

Who exactly outside the military needs aerial refueling services, NASA? NASA is only my first guess, my 2nd is the CIA or some other three letter agency that is "military adjacent" but "not officially part of the military" (huge wink).

@indyjons321 2 ай бұрын

Fantastic video! Answered all the questions I had about tankers.

@ilaril 2 ай бұрын

The KC-46's new system is anything but good. Maybe one day.

@dknowles60 Ай бұрын

they should have kept the KC10

@VincentGirod 2 ай бұрын

Always instructive and fun !

@lukevaxhacker7762 2 ай бұрын

Does beg the question: Why is the KC-10 *retiring* while the older design KC-135 *still flying*?!

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

I wondering too, why retired the best of the best among the best that proven the best already

@zsu-23-4shilka2 2 ай бұрын

The D/KC-10 has a rather poor safety history.

@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh 2 ай бұрын

Apparently, it's a numbers game. Retiring the 60 KC-10 is cheaper in the long run than splitting the number between the two airframes. Which kind of makes sense.

@xxxotiknightz 2 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with safety. I flew on the 10 as a boom for years. It’s a game of averages and numbers. The AF brass determined that the average offload was ~63k lbs. Which is well within the 135 and 46 capabilities. They decided more aircraft was better rather than more capabilities.

@jaquigreenlees 2 ай бұрын

the 135 is the only option to refuel helicopters, the jet powered options wind up at or barely above stall speed if they try to refuel a helicopter.

@welshpete12 Ай бұрын

Very informative , thank u for posting !

@jamiebray8532 2 ай бұрын

Man i love watching your videos. It seems like forever waiting for a new video to drop. I start going through dt convulsions and stuff. 😂😂😂😂

@bobgreene2892 2 ай бұрын

Well-organized and clearly presented We thought we already knew the "basics", until we saw this video.

@irrelEvant5352 2 ай бұрын

0:56 i bet that took you a couple tries to say with a straight voice 😂 Peak humor right there

@NotWhatYouThink 2 ай бұрын

Hehe you’re not wrong there 😅

@petesheppard1709 2 күн бұрын

The probe-and-drogue system was first developed by the British in the late '40s. The F-105 Thunderchief had both refueling systems built into each aircraft. A really interesting system to look into is the old Soviet wingtip system. I've seen photos, but don't know how it worked. This would be a great video!!

@crazestyle83 Ай бұрын

The whole whipped by the "hose" cutaway was slick

@u2mister17 Ай бұрын

That was an excellent report. Thank you.

@northropi2027 2 ай бұрын

hey, i've been to that KC-97. it's at March Field, they also have a YA-9 there.

@centralplains7608 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for a MOST comprehensive overview of the aerial refueling subject! As usual, your vids lead to a greater understanding of aviation and various systems. Plz keep up the GREAT WORK!!

@scribehades 2 ай бұрын

That BOOM ENGAGED indicator light would be awesome for a sound engineering board

@charlesdiggs5297 6 күн бұрын

Very informative

@dave.g.nowitzki4897 2 ай бұрын

great vid ! i would love to know what all those markings on the planes mean like the one in 7:04 for the slip

@jordibt1789 2 ай бұрын

Damn, NWYT has that Big Altima Energy

@BosonCollider 2 ай бұрын

8:15 Okay, that was the smoothest ad transition I have seen ever, you deserve every cent of ad money for that and this is not something I say often

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

Either Losing dollar to refueling or to those pesky snail😂

@adirondacker007 Ай бұрын

I was born in the early 70's and grew up about 20 miles from Plattsburgh AFB. From as early as I can remember, seeing KC-135's and FB-111'S flying over was quite routine.

@lowercasegamer 2 ай бұрын

Slight title mistake. I think it should be Standardized not Standardize ( If he changes title ignore comment)

@viewer-of-content 2 ай бұрын

He has an accent I think. In 2x it sounded correct

@Rotorhead1651 2 ай бұрын

You are correct. Grammatically, it should be "standardized".

@muhazreen 2 ай бұрын

Grammar MP

@user-gu8qi4me8x 2 ай бұрын

@@muhazreenl actually agree with you.

@fyrebatskymarshall1778 2 ай бұрын

that ad transistion was mint

@christiantroy3034 4 күн бұрын

That clip of the H53 cutting off its fuel nozzle happened in 29 Palms CA being Motor Transport/Fuels, we were tasked with towing it back to the airfield from it's landing point. the rotors were damaged and it took several weeks to get the parts and fix it the pilot was screwed though.

@flightmaster999 2 ай бұрын

Too bad the KC-46 can't do half of what it is designed for because Boeing used the wrong kind of (black and white) camera on them. Should have bought the MRTT instead, which is just better in every way, not to mention that is actually works.

@fidjeenjanrjsnsfh 2 ай бұрын

"It's a game changer" because the camera fogs up half the time.

@44R0Ndin Ай бұрын

But the MRTT "wasn't made here" and Boeing has more power where it counts (which isn't "making the thing work") so that's what we got. Incopmpetence floats to the top of the corporate ladder, and that's at least doubly true when the products of the company are supposed to fly.

@44R0Ndin Ай бұрын

Point is, they "engineered" the contract so it couldn't fail, instead of engineering the PRODUCT so that it meets requirements. Bean-counters at the top where there should be engineers, that's why Boeing isn't what it used to be.

@dknowles60 Ай бұрын

better yet they should have use the same system as used on the KC10 Kc135

@larrybremer4930 Ай бұрын

The hardest part of refueling (bombers in particular) is the tanker gets lighter while the receiving aircraft gets heavier so its a constant battle to stay in the box since the tanker will get faster and you get slower thus it's a constant battle to stay in the box with the thrust and alpha changes needed while taking on fuel. Also air force tankers can carry wing reels with probe and drogue so they can refuel either method (drogue or boom) in the same mission. One advantage of this configuration is being able to refuel two probe type aircraft at the same time.

@generybarczyk6993 2 ай бұрын

Good one. Flares!

@scribehades 2 ай бұрын

I'm now convinced the B-52 runs on diesel.

@toastecmo Күн бұрын

We used to call the KC-135 metal drogue the wrecking ball. Always a lot of fun tanking off of that (not) in an EA-6B especially at night.

@Bruno74823.. 2 ай бұрын

The bots kinda love military refueling i guess not gonna judge them i also enjoy whatching planes refuel

@NSJonesy94 2 ай бұрын

Hahaha, Crown Royal bag for the chin rest @5:11

@larrydugan1441 Ай бұрын

Really good video. On a trans oceanic flight with fighters the fighters always have to have sufficient fuel on board to proceed to an alternate should the refueling system fail. This can mean many top ups en route. It is not just a matter of waiting until your fighter is low on fuel. On a long flight with a lot of turbulence this can be quite a bit of work.

@LionPride11241968 24 күн бұрын

@NotWhatYouThink @GrowlerJams I served at RAF Mildenhall, U.K.('88-'97) Loved it when our KC-135s had the two MIPRS(Washington ANG 2003-2009) installed, which meant our flying boom could take care of our USAF jets, and MIRPS for the USNAVY and our Allies jets. However, for our mostly MIPRS-less KC-135s('88-'97), it was hang the drogue and put it on a stand, until tasked. Refueling those Navy/Allied jets were a slight pain, but happy to support! The only USAF jet that was a major pain refueling was the F-4 Phantom, which required us to lube the flying boom contact points everytime, and pray that the F-4 Phantoms didn't cause a 'Brute Force Disconnect', thus potentially damaging the entire boom assembly every mission. Not Fun! Still glad and honored to have served! I am also honored to support building the new replacement, and State-of-the-Art, Most Advanced Tanker in the World, the Boeing KC-46A. This 1980s technology jet gets some of the 🛩 787 avionics/cockpit 💺 advancements included, along with a brand new 3D Refueling Boom control deck 💺 for the Boom Operator. This is leaps & bounds above, laying on your belly and staring out the back boom window! Also, when I served we transition from the old water burning KC-135 A/Q (limited to 135K take-off fuel), over to the upgraded KC-135 R/T (limit increased to 180K take-off fuel), thanks to the new at the time, GE CFM-56 jet engines. ✈️

@stevengmarcus 2 ай бұрын

Crown royal bag for a chin pad is a nice touch

@ObiWanCannabi 2 ай бұрын

ever tried air to air refuelling on DCS world... it took me more than 45 minutes

@pathos48 2 ай бұрын

I have been wondering what that rotating hatch on B2 were. Finally I know!

@Michael_Brock 2 ай бұрын

Awesome video

@misanthropicphilanthropy Ай бұрын

I'm loving the "sex puns" and fart jokes 😂 (passing gas)😂

@jjfdkdjiwejnd092 2 ай бұрын

"it's okay if you can't get it up Mr plane, it happens to all of us as we get older"

@libertarian1637 2 ай бұрын

F-15EX can fly from US to UK without mid-air refueling. At 45 minutes the pilot must have been for an F-16. It’s quite standardized, US Air Force - Boom; Navy/USMC - drogue, ALL helicopters - drogue. The US military is represented by multiple branches with different needs; a one size fits all approach sometimes isn’t the best for all.

@DramaticBatu 2 ай бұрын

That name is not a mistake. F-1SEX

@LSmoney215 2 ай бұрын

I think they talking about combat conditions

@uss_liberty_incident 2 ай бұрын

Funny how War Thunder teaches how vital fuel management is in a modern, afterburning fighter. IE, the F-14 GUZZLES fuel at full A/B.

@counterfit5 2 ай бұрын

Everything guzzles fuel in full A/B

@piscessoedroen 2 ай бұрын

@@counterfit5 there's guzzling fuel, and then there's dumping the whole tank into the engine. F-14 is the latter

@notmenotme614 2 ай бұрын

Another thing with drogue refuelling is sometimes the drogue can shear off, leaving it attached to the receiver aircraft. Which made their landing interesting when it still had the basket and a few meters of pipe attached. We’ve also experienced the drogue wafting around in turbulence and hitting the pitot probes, causing the receiver aircraft to abort. Having said that, the drogue method has been used for decades on 1000s of sorties. I remember reading the book Flight Of The Intruder, which said A-6’s fitted with a buddy refuelling pod were crucial to helping those who struggled to land on an aircraft carrier. If they struggled to get down and did many bolters, they’d send up the standby refueller to save them before they ran out of fuel.

@user-ue6zx2do2f 2 ай бұрын

And airbus boom can refuel automatically

@mr_gaider6174 2 ай бұрын

I think that boom is better for bigger aircraft and probe and drogue for the smaller aircraft like a fighter.

@mrbharathkiran.1508 2 ай бұрын

Love your video quality and content

@Coolphone1984 25 күн бұрын

Placing of the add is perfect.

@geetargeek79 2 ай бұрын

VFA-115 here during the period mentioned. I can say that refueling missions weren't the favorite. They were very long missions just for the pilot to be a flying gas station. Unlike those big AF tankers, the Super Hornets aren't as comfortable either. It isn't like the pilot could stand up to take a leak. But don't get me wrong because they can, just not standing up. 😂

@michaelgeorge3092 15 күн бұрын

With the basket attached to the boom on the 135, I noticed it hanging down quite a bit. Will the basket not drag on the ground at rotation ( vr) ?

@ph11p3540 2 ай бұрын

It takes more fuel to carry more fuel. Law of tyranny of gravity.

@julianp2868 2 ай бұрын

Very interesting

@jamesvespucci5527 Ай бұрын

"You could get whipped by those hose" sent me when I heard it, and made me laugh hard enough to scare my cat when I looked at the screen

@stevenlauzon7031 2 ай бұрын

Digging the Crown Royal chin rest

@JS-ed2hg 19 күн бұрын

On the B2, the video shows you just how precise things are. No gaps or anything when the fuel door opened or closed it would be hard to guess it was there.

@gcewing Күн бұрын

19:44 Ouch, that must have hurt!

@tau93 2 ай бұрын

after seeing the notification I knew the original title and thumbnail were going to be changed quickly 😂😂

@flickingbollocks5542 2 ай бұрын

How do the dtogue actually hook onto the probes?

@TYZ-Foodie68 Ай бұрын

It’s a good one !!

@tweezerjam Ай бұрын

Very cool. What about how they match speeds?

@Kennyfornia Ай бұрын

@9:57; I seriously thought it was a photo until the boom started moving! 😂😂 How is the background not even moving?! Talk about having a uncanny valley moment!

@NotWhatYouThink Ай бұрын

Yeah that’s a tricky shot. It’s in slow mo, so that’s partly why.

@Dekhti-ankh 2 ай бұрын

Here we are, listening damn jokes from my boy

@nekomakhea9440 2 ай бұрын

Wouldn't the C-2's be better refueling planes for carriers than F-18's? They would have much larger fuel capacity, and could carry extra fuel bags in their cargo bay. Also, they're turboprops, so they could probably go slow enough to refuel any helicopters or tiltrotors in the carrier's fleet. And you wouldn't need to procure new fuel drones, just use what you already have in a different way.

@czaja995 2 ай бұрын

C-2 is propeller aircraft, it's too slow for refueling fighter jets.

@abc-coleaks-info3180 2 ай бұрын

The C2 is being phased out for the Osprey. They do have a setup for refueling from the Osprey but jet refueling is limited by minimum flight speed.

@SkyhawkSteve 2 ай бұрын

@@czaja995 if the KC-130 isn't too slow, then it's not clear why the C-2 would be too slow.

@counterfit5 2 ай бұрын

I will as hoping to see the Sea King chopping off its own probe, and there it is at 19:41

@michaelgeorge3092 14 күн бұрын

Stallion 🙂

@michaelm54877 2 ай бұрын

When a tanker loves a B-2 bomber very much... and that is how F-16's are born.

@busboy262 2 ай бұрын

I can't imagine what just the pivot on that adapter costs. I bet the cost of the adapter is high, but that knuckle probably accounts for more than half of that cost.

@stevewilley1029 Ай бұрын

the Air Force was short sighted when it did start equipping all KC 135 tankers with MPRS when they became available. I had to install many drogue adapters in my career as a crew chief.

@ethimself5064 2 ай бұрын

I thought I remembered your voice on the previous vid I just watched. 👍 - 👍

@bigblue6917 Ай бұрын

One of the capabilities of the de Havilland Sea Vixen used by the Royal Navy was to refuel other Sea Vixen's and that was back in the 60s

@bassetdad437 Ай бұрын

Supermarine Scimitar fighter/attack aircraft were used as in flight refuellers for Blackburn Buccaneer S1 strike aircraft which were underpowered and could not be catapulted off Royal Navy carriers with a full fuel load. they topped up with fuel from the Scimitars once airborne, the Scimitars had big beer tankards painted on their fins.

@flora_7719 2 ай бұрын

You've heard of two trucks... Now get ready for two planes

@Ariu_the_furry Ай бұрын

and that is how planes are made educational content (and excited planes)

@west8772 2 ай бұрын

Damn I kinda ignored this video but after the change in title and thumbnail it worked insanely well LMFAO

@EdwardSnowden125 2 ай бұрын

7:00 why don't they set up a system where after the boom is engaged both the aircraft get controlled by the pilot of the tanker(with difference in sensitivities ofc) would that not help?

@ronaldoc5637 2 ай бұрын

The Embraer KC-390 may fill that gap...

@XAirForce Ай бұрын

One thing you could think about doing is making the Drug no holes so that they actually are tethered drones and they adjust themselves to the aircraft also within limits. You put a drone before the nozzle directly into the aircraft or it has a cameras, so it can see the incoming aircraft and help them refuel quicker.

@XAirForce Ай бұрын

You could make an adapter and put it on the end.

@XAirForce Ай бұрын

You definitely know you’re gonna have to get rid of the boomers and put a camera on it to automated the system to do the mating. It could take over flight operations and adjust the aircraft and the boom automatically.. in reality the two aircraft should be talking together at that point and both pilots lose so the aircraft can mate each other a lot quicker than the humans

@XAirForce Ай бұрын

I hate to tell you, but the humans are out of business. You’re taking up weight and time and you’re the limiting factor in war. : )

@h8GW 2 ай бұрын

It's wild how the B-2 refueling door just disappears into the fuselage skin when closed.

@adversopodcast Ай бұрын

Awesome!!! 😃👍

@oceanmariner Ай бұрын

During the Vietnam War refueling booms were used to tow damaged aircraft returning from North Vietnam to their bases in the south.

@Roberto-oi7lm Ай бұрын

Never happened. True, with the Navy probe/drogue system there are small latches on the probe which engage and "lock" into the fitting on the drogue so that fuel can transfer without leaking. And the probe/receiver coupling used by the Air Force boom system is quite similar. But those latches in no way are strong enough to tow an aircraft. If they were, you could never disengage from the tanker. Sounds like bar talk between people who were never there.

@robertheinkel6225 Ай бұрын

@@Roberto-oi7lmincorrect! The boom was used to tow fighter aircraft, provided they could provide some power assist. The safeties are shut off, and once locked on, it would bring the fighter to a safe area. This happened several times during Vietnam, all fully documented. Towing cannot be done with the drogue, since it can’t handle the strain. Retired tanker crew chief.

@michaelm54877 2 ай бұрын

The hard part when fighting a near peer foe will be the protection of tankers. The new steathy drone tankers should help though.