Gotta love the Grinch photo insert. Ha! Good stuff. This was such a fun discussion. What a week to be a Beatles fan. Thanks to everyone on this great panel and especially Royce for hosting. I urge everybody to check out the full discussion. Lots of ground was covered. Great job recapping this, Michael (and editing around the initial technical difficulties).

"Now and Then" deserves an A+, Debuting Number 1 in England, on Spotify and KZfaq the most viewed shows this. Time will prove this. The video was masterful, befitting the last Beatles classic. They go out the way they came in.

Absolutely loved the song, the video, the cadence, nostalgia, emotion, effects, everything!!! Oh, and the Beatles upstage the Stones yet again in 2023. Some things never change! I don’t find anything cheesy about the portrayed antics. This was the most heartfelt tribute to their lifelong FRIENDSHIP, and the playful days of their movies A Hard Days Night and Help. Maybe you have to be 70+ to get this, I don’t know, but no way this was over the top.

This video brought back to life, for the first time since the breakup of The Beatles, The Beatles! Now, a whole new generation can experience that crazy, wacky, freshness that we experienced along with the magic of the music! Long live The Beatles!

I’m pretty sure that Yesterday didn’t feature all the Beatles, and we don’t call that a Paul solo song. It is true Beatles song and will be rightfully added to the ‘1’ album at some point soon. I love it

“Paul is the custodian of the Beatles” one of you said. So true! In my opinion, Paul is the spirit of the Beatles, John was the soul, George was the wisdom of the Beatles, and Ringo, of course is the heart (beat.)

Great reaction, just a comment, for me it's a masterpiece, the opening of the song is brutal, with those chords in low tones, the elegance of the piano and that accompaniment of the beautiful bass line that Paul drew, and if you add it like Ringo starts to enter the song banging on the drums to enter in a masterful way with his powerful drums, It's epic. also when he makes the bridge to enter the choir is beautiful and the solo of George and Paul, together with the beautiful string arrangement, there is no way that this is not a masterpiece. And the icing on the cake, it's like a 39-year-old John with a clear voice, he ties in with the voice of an 81-year-old Paul, that's crazy. The Beatles the greatest rock band ever!!!! Thank you, John, Paul, George, Ringo, Yoko, Peter, Giles, Ben and and all the people involved in this for making it possible.

I think you’re all over analyzing the song and the video. At 73, I was there at the very beginning…saw them live on Sept. 7 1964 literally the day before I started high school. Hearing Now And Then for the first time made me tear up and think about that entire year of ‘63 waiting to actually hear a Beatles song. The first Beatles song I ever heard was Del Shannon’s Version of From Me To You in June 1963. As a Canadian I recall She Loves You hit the charts in Oct. ‘63 and then the world became technicolour. It was a very emotional time for all of us budding musicians and music lovers.I love all your commentary but really guys…It’s just an emotional, nostalgic, memorial to Yoko or May Pang, or even Paul. The video serves it well. You either like it or not and all the chatter about Peter Jackson’s shadow etc. just lessens the stunning effect of listening to the first “new” Beatles song for us seasoned Beatles fans and for many fans who were yet to be born when John passed. .

I think it was a great surprise man, I really didn't think there would ever be another beatles song so I'm pretty stoked with it

CLARITY!!! Loved this discussion fellas!! You were all on point and expressed great insights. I may not agree with everyone’s thoughts, but I respect the discourse! Cheers 🍻 Matt

My biggest criticism is the removal of the bridge. I kinda understand why it was removed but I was very attached to it from listening to the fan mix and demo for years. A fan named “mcmusic” restored this part in a mix I found on Vimeo. I’m very grateful for this.

Good show everyone. I love the Now And Then video and song. The Beatles were famous for their clowning around. Jacksons video is a love message to Beatles fans.

In twenty years, we will still get new Beatles material. They will all be joining forces again... wherever they may be. ✌

Great conversation. Your passion for the Beatles and for music more generally comes through loud and clear. I agree with everything you said. Although i cried at the end of the N&T video, I wasn't too keen on it initially. Like some others have said, the upbeat tone of the video didn't match the music. But your comments about the video make perfect sense. Thanks for your keen insight in this video and for making such wonderful content throughout your channel.

😎🎶👍🏻- I am a musician and boy do I have a lot of stuff in cassettes that I wish I can clean up like this song you already know that Paul is the brains for the Beatles thank God that we did not throw this song away like George wanted to thank you Paul for bringing this out to us and Rego. Of course John did his little part and Paul took it to the next level. That’s what you guys should be talking about forget about the timing that song was written in the 70s. -🥁😉

Finally, this release Of years of joy & tensions gone by As in, the breathing in and in and in And holding it for so too very long Then, if only for this collective brief moment The satisfying exhaling of it all ~

Elliot Roberts, a reviewer on another channel, noted how Now and Then and Rubber Soul’s Wait have the same ending. Check it out. Paul and John absolutely brought the best out of each other! And yes, I’m a buyer that this song could be about May Pang.

I don't know about all this discussion. I really think they did a great job with this and we just need to enjoy it. There are so many people tearing this apart instead of just absorbing and enjoying having a new Beatles Song. I didn't know that TL called them Living Avatars, that's kinda cool..

Did Paul McCartney save the last Beatles song? That's an affirmative! If jeff Lynne had been brought back as the producer, it would have failed. Once again, McCartney has shown us all just how special his talent is, and one again has shown us why, the combination of Lennon, McCartney, Harrison and Starr was so special. Beatles forever!!!

Is absolutely a A+

Excellent analysis guys!! Me too. I'm a successful songwriter and musician.. and I grew up with the Beatles. Loved the video..loved the 88 bpm..love leaving out the pre chorus..

I’m so glad Paul persevered and stuck with it I keep trying not to cry but every time I do watching others that watch it for the first time they cry too the video makes the song boom A Plus for me it’s a phenomenon it’s already #1 in UK yeah the vid brought the song alive and it will do what music vids were suppose to do like in the past

I think it felt like brotherly love It was perfect

This was a fun show Sunday night Michael and I appreciate you cohosting along with Nick, Bruce and David. We covered a lot of ground and had a lot of laughs in the 1:46 minutes. I always enjoy the recap videos you make, thank you!

Great video you guys are awesome!

It crossed my mind too that it could have been for May Pang, on the other hand, the last thing John said to Paul was "Think of me now and then my old friend" I don't think there was enough George in it. All in all, I love it and cry when I watch the vid

Paul? Damn straight,We know it😻 Ring❤ too.i don't watch video/promo. Just melody/ lyrics. I love the swinging London guitar as well. The violins are magnificent,Hey Grinch!☮️ It's Xmas!! And it's fitting the Stones release is here now too if you think about it. Always good to see a Michael talk.

I've never been a fan of The Beatles but readily admit their place in the pantheon of rock 'n ' roll is deserved they simply have not touched my musical soul. I have not heard any material that i would want to re-listen to however if someone was to play the band's music in my presence there would be no objection. And then this single comes out...at the age of 64 i think this is the most beautiful melody I've ever heard. So emotive and compelling and stunning. Yes Lennon's voice is 'tweaked' and some have suggested A.I. involvement but if this is the result then kudos to those involved in the production. Seems like i will have to commence my Beatles journey at this late stage and with more 'mature ears'...better late than never i guess.

The last thing John said to Paul was " think about me now and then old friend " I'm thinking it's about Paul

Compare the end to "Wait" the end . ... we'll forget the tears we cried...

I listened to this song 3 times. I didn't care for it the first time I listened to it and cared for it less the third time. I'll probably never listen to this song again. I've listened to the comments on your video and it did nothing to change my mind. .

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For me Now And Then has a strong similarity and same feel to Let There Be Love by Oasis and Let Me Take You Home Tonight, Diana Krall’s McCartney song cover that didn’t make on to the Kisses On The Bottom Album. Plenty of songs featured different mixes of Beatles. So Now And Then is really no different, except for it’s questionable vocal mixes of Paul & Ringo of today, with the majestic harmonies of Because. George, John & Ringo were the only participants of Revolution 9, Paul, George & Ringo only with Here Comes The Sun, Back In The USSR - with Paul, George and John. She Said She Said- John, George & Ringo, Yesterday with Paul, Julia - with just John to name but a few. Years ahead Now And Then will no doubt be an established part of The Beatles catalogue, despite its flaws, it is a good song so this analysis from all of us today although defiantly important now won’t make a big difference to a new fan who turns on to The Beatles for the first time in 10 years time say, listening to the catalogue over time in any form or direction.

Hey Michael.....Heard you say Cow Palace...I was there BOTH nights!!! Are you from the Bay Area?.........Greatest show I have ever seen and..I've been to approximately 1,200 shows.

One man's opinion: it was a good song, and the video was very touching. Is it an "A" song, like Hey Jude, or Strawberry Fields, or Let It Be? No. It's a solid B song from me. Take away all the background "stuff" and it's a solid minor track on any Beatles album....a song you grow to love but not an iconic masterpiece. I like it. It's a nice piece, and a great gift after all this time. Best wishes, Ernie.

Michael, why are people fussing over the nostalgic excess in "Now and Then". It was meant to give a magical feel as opposed to the Rolling Stone's use of nostalgia in Angry video. Both were a "blast to the past". It is a marketing strategy by these Legacy Bands. Remember, it connects generations. Gen Zers (and to a certain extent Millenials) have no idea what it felt like to have lived the Stones and Beatles at the apex. Who they were, their dynamics as a group, their Pop Culture iconagraphy, etc. Was the song apt for it? Considering that most likely there will never be an opportunity do do it again, it was an opportunity to not be wasted and Paul and Ringo made the right call. Glad GenZ and Milenials could see who these guys were and all about and interacted. No manipulation by Jackson. It was a Farewell song if you come to think about it. No cringe at all like your guest erroneously asserted.

I can hear elements from the deleted pre-chorus in the instrumental break and outro.

I'll tell what they should have done. The way the song was done is great for the A side. For the B side they shoulda done it with just George's rhythm guitar, a new Paul guitar and bass a livelier Ringo drum. A side modern, B side Cavern Club Beatles. That would have been fun. I think I'll make my own rock ballad version.

Clearly one of The Beatles greatest songs - I would easily put it up there with Wild Honey Pie, You Know My Name and Flying. All the haters are just people who have got good taste - my advice to them is just get over it.

I liked the lighter side of John in the video but using the same film of him dancing in the gold suit was overkill. Surely there were other cuts that could have been used for variety even if John was goofing around.

To the dude who thought the clowning around wasn't cool, uh, did you watch Get Back? Lennon was constantly clowning around. He was a goofball and a genius. And the Beatles were constantly goofing on their own songs, taking the piss out of em. So in the contest of the Beatles, totally right on.

I don't want to lose you no,no,no,no should never have been left out ! Sabotage by Mc Carney

I don’t think it was about Yoko at all. It was about Paul, to Paul, and for Paul. As always Paul rose to the challenge and finished his creative partner’s song.

The fan versions of now and then are great.

I'm not putting down anyone who likes this song, I'm just surprised. I didn't think there was much here. I thought the other two THREE-tles songs (as some call them) were better. However, I would say that a direct comparison from what they did here to the original demo tape makes their work sound more impressive. I liked the quality of John's voice on this song especially when compared with the other two. I think they should use the same technology to clean up John's voice on those songs. I think my biggest problem with the song is that Paul waited TOO LONG to complete it, and someone beat him to the finish. The fan production of this song is absolutely STELLAR! In my opinion, it's better than what was done by Paul and Ringo. After I heard that version, I wondered what Paul could do to this song which was any better. Sorry, but after hearing it, I was disappointed. It's okay but not remarkable. Another thing.....I don't know why Paul and Ringo would say this is the "last Beatles song" when there are other songs out there they could finish. There's a song they were performing in the studio back in the days of the "Get Back" sessions called "Watching Rainbows" which was much better. If they would have released that song as "the last Beatles song", I think people would have been awed. It's pretty good, and there's a version of it done with AI that's as good if not BETTER than any "real" Beatles song. People should check them out.

Dang a handful of old and not-so-old dudes slicing and dicing a Beatles song and video! Am I having a flashback?? Loved the casual format and repartee. I'm not at all bothered by the video presentation. No one has to watch it, after all. Was it clever by half? Of course, but so were the Fab!

Stephen King was gushing too much about the song 😊

Gilles Martin wrote the part of orchestra.

This song sets such a strong mood. From the very first chords. Is it a top 10 Beatles song? No, but it grabbed my attention and my emotions and did not let go for 4 minutes straight. It also treads new ground for the band by being sooo heavy on minor chords. Not typical of them. It's not perfect, but I think it's more evocative and stronger than several Beatles songs from the 60s. I like it better than Lovely Rita, Piggies, Sexy Sadie, Bungalow Bill, Wait, Blue Jay Way, Maxwell's Silver Hammer, etc. And I'm so glad we have it.

how would you rank it with Free as a Bird and Real Love...??

Paul only said 1 -2. On the Demo, John said 1-2-3-4. in most cases for like television 3 & 4 are silent. So it was faded out of the mix seemingly.

All 4 Beatles are on it so it's a Beatle song. Like all Beatle songs the lead singer gets the designation of It's Johns masterpiece !!

Clearly itwas meant to have a Joy Division feel,but Paul rearranged it,John often said be wished he didnt let Paul do that.Anyways the Paul version is ok but should of stayed with Johns mood of the song if only out of for respect for John

The song is fantastic, the video is kitschy.

Think they should’ve delayed the release a bit. I think it’s too close to the Rolling Stones new album. A little of trying to steal The Stones thunder? Great video btw 👍🏻

Jackson is great director, his movies are amazing. But this music video was too much added and visually it look way off. ..sound wise of course its going to be great..

Without John's permission, rather like a lot of makkas outrages comments about them.wanking together springs to mind.

"The Beatles New Record's a Gas"..."Ball Of Confusion"...The Temptations....

Participation of Ringo? It is nothing?

This is a mislabeled John Lennon solo song remix.

i thought the record over produced. would've been much better a bit more "sparse"

Well the good thing about this technology is we can erase yoko ono from all visuals an audio recordings..😄😄😁😁⚡️🎸🎼🎙

Old people are just grumpy lol. Young people seem to like the song and the video, which is interesting. 😂 iI think the older we get the more up our own ass we get.

Memory rane & John Oko. You can even get you're word rights. They always fooled around. They were the original fools on the hill.. lost interest after this one started to speark...

The group The Beatles split up in 1970 and died with the tragic death of John in 1980. This is not a Beatles record. It couldn't be. For McCartney to call it that is a travesty. There was no group interaction, no individual veto (!) and it's a mishmash of loose bits played at many different times on different projects. I hope this really is the final one of these Frankenstein tracks and to Paul I'd like to say: give it a rest now, mate. You've taken this as far as you could and further than you should have. And by the way: John would have vetoed this record and George actually did in 1995, as McCartney admits with a smile. He still created this 'Beatles track' anyway, in spite of that veto, so Paul himself proves it: The Beatles are well and truly....quite dead.

It's not a Beatles track. Everyone is hypnotized. It's a manufactured money grab. Just another example of the general acceptance of mediocrity. John's dead. George is dead. George hated the song and no matter how much McCartney spins it, George hated it. AI doesn't make it a Beatles track. AI sucks as much as lip synching and backing tracks at concerts. Everyone has been duped and it's just sad to see how many people have fallen for it. Rock and roll is dead.

when will Paul McCartney realise he can NO LONGER write a decent song? What made the Beatles special was the duo Lennon McCartney, at that time they were both at their creative peak. Without Lennon Paul has never really written anything that good and now the songs are awful. So please, stop writing rubbish. Keep the Beatles brand intact and not tainted by bad music. Ring too, has never written anything that good. Please guys, STOP

Please mr Noland remember a while back you did a couple of videos about groups that should retire? Well you should take your own advice, and take the other two dinosaurs and the Tim pool wannabe with you.

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