Best explanation on how shocks work. Seeing the insides at work made all the difference. Good one🤟
@Coofy918 ай бұрын
I watched dozens of fork maintenance videos before taking mine apart, none of them mentioned that there is a type that has only springs in both sides.
@bbman856 жыл бұрын
Apart from the damper being upside down like everyone else pointed out, it's worth mentioning that the bottomless tokens are installed ABOVE the upper seal, not below. Like in the damper stanchion, the chamber above is connected to the main spring chamber by channels. That's why the tokens are only limiting the air volume without changing the actual travel of the fork.
@backcountryme3 жыл бұрын
You had your damper cylinder upside down. The compression adjustment is on the top. That is why that giant air bubble was mixing with the oil. That actually hurts damping performance. If the cylinder was the right way up, the air would have been above the compression piston, and the air would not mix with the oil.
@adslammer13593 жыл бұрын
Yea! Because it causes cavitation when that happens.
@pishi_man2 жыл бұрын
The way he held it you mean? Or you are talking about sth in its structure?
@backcountryme2 жыл бұрын
@@pishi_man He held it upside down. The rod that slides in and out should have been at the bottom.
@AFV854 ай бұрын
Yeah look at 12.08 aswell whare he's saying the volume tokens go! Half way down under the seal 😂 geez this video's most confusing ever needs to be remade
@eddulles15024 жыл бұрын
Best explanation I have seen so far on the fork mechanics and dynamics. Thanks!
@wallaceteixeira4294 жыл бұрын
hey, i'm brazilian and i really aprecciate this video, bcz here in youtube brazil, there isn't videos explaining how this type of suspensions works. Thank you boy, success to you!
@Justmyopinionlol4 жыл бұрын
love your channel man, always giving a deeper understanding of the mechanics behind our ride.
@Kollingl5 жыл бұрын
what the fork
@Sricky275 жыл бұрын
Really good explanation. It has been difficult for me to find that kind of video. And really clear even for a spanish talker like me. Now I can clearly understand how does the fork work.
@mustangnut3512 жыл бұрын
Hello there. Great video! Thank you for taking the time to make it. Where did you get the props?
@martindunioh75975 жыл бұрын
yo u totally nailed it...been looking for clarity on compression dampening for ages ...thanx
@franzkurnia4 жыл бұрын
your explanation answers all my questions, thank
@peterrabbitwarren5 жыл бұрын
Best explanation of suspension forks ever. On my shopping list.
@mattgraves37094 жыл бұрын
Excellent video 👍👌👏!! Thank you! Im returning to serious MTBing after 20 years away... hahaha the last suspension I saw the inside of was the 1998 base model Rock Shocks (was it a Judy? ...me thinks yes!) They were toys back then...plastic air springs both sides...this is completely different. This is easily as sophisticated as the Ohlins motocross suspension I used to use on my dirtbikes. Now I understand the cost, and see the value...even if other companies have different methods to achieve the same things those things are really being addressed (Hi/Low speed compression and rebound dampening) My hope was to see this level of sophistication and I am not disappointed. thanks again
@freektange53205 жыл бұрын
Grrrreat tutorial! Finally someone who took the job really seriously and got us, forknerds from oblivious bumping over trees to scientifically supported cruising through the woods :D Love the dummies!
@alamedajon14535 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dude, Now I understand. Made adjustments. Will do again on the trail.
@netac76676 жыл бұрын
Learned so much! Much easier to understand when you can see what's going on in your fork. Thank you for making the video and explaining🙏
@owenstauff185611 ай бұрын
Super helpful and really interesting, thanks for putting this out there!
@lucabernecole66343 жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation! Very interesting
@tan28127310 ай бұрын
Thank you for your explanation. It's so easy to understand!! Super helpful
@voltagefrogmatthias23754 жыл бұрын
Great video and lighting quality, audio quality, and English 👍 overall very helpful and professional
@JuanCarlosDominguezVilaza3 жыл бұрын
Amazing explanation. Just what I wanted to see. Thanks!
@MaquinasDePalomitas3 жыл бұрын
Just blown away, best suspension explanation I've ever seen
@WorldwideCyclery6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@kanavparashar16413 жыл бұрын
Excellent Explanation Bro
@terryfong91104 жыл бұрын
Great video! Clear explanation!
@jhoellopez42243 жыл бұрын
I think you had the rebound upside down
@rooms_emptv43973 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this lesson i don't really know whats inside or the operation of Lock out fork even to adjust..now i know !😁💪 thanks!
@balrajshahi58425 жыл бұрын
being an engineer, i always think how we take things for granted never thought how it actually works , good job #SickBiker
@mohitnautiyal26313 жыл бұрын
Brilliant explanation. Worth the time.
@schlooonginator12276 жыл бұрын
Also makes a good case for the latest damper designs from Fox and Rock Shox using bladders or sealed chambers separating the oil from the air and preventing the foaming or "cavitation" which may lead to unpredictable dampening characteristics.
@caturindrasukmana7673 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your explanation. It's so easy to understand!!
@mr.andmrs.oineza47024 жыл бұрын
great video! very informative, do you have a video about repairing hydraulic lockouts?
@mart65715 жыл бұрын
Greetings from the UK, and thank you for this superb explanation.
@ZARuslan Жыл бұрын
Good day! Is that demo cartridges? They are transparent and thats looks cool!
@user-gq6go7ln5z8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much I finally understood how forks and its functions work! 😁
@ivanm.35223 жыл бұрын
Hi, thank you for this well done and very informative video. I'm struggling with a strange problem with my hydraulic (manitou) fork. Lock out function suddenly stopped working, I disassembled it and I found that the plunger have some existing-through-holes in it (that cant be closed by the handle bar command), besides the locking valve that should do the trick. I don't understand how it could ever lock the fork while some holes are always open. Any clue about the principle of whole thing? Thanx
@reflexsamurai9585 жыл бұрын
This is a good video, many thanks
@teogm6 ай бұрын
Very good video. I'm wondering how forks and shocks can have different rebound and compression adjustments for high and low speed.
@FlorinAciobanitei4 жыл бұрын
Great video, perfect explanation! Thank you !
@SE7ENinc16 жыл бұрын
This video makes me want to take apart my SiD and clean everything.
@feroxgargol6 жыл бұрын
great :D will you make a Manitou video?
@charlezrznk6 жыл бұрын
Excellent content. Thanks m8 !
@user-uq2in4kn6i4 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video on Cannondale DL50 Headshok by any chance? such as 'How it's constructed, how the shock works and how to service it on a regular basis' and etc. Thanks!
@5137693 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! English is not my first language but I still understood everything.
@Djangoat682 жыл бұрын
Very well explained - thank you!
@shinjunkang744 жыл бұрын
So kind explanation!! Many thanks!!
@pinoyakousa13825 жыл бұрын
Can you make video on how to disassemble and rebuild step by step on manitou markhor fork.
@canjams15 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@tobias63276 жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@carlinesmtb4 жыл бұрын
Very useful anyway!! But...for exapmple. I have a problem on my Fox talas 2009 (that has open bath system) and suddenly it starts to compress till the end only with my weight (and spread oil from the damper side). The air pressure in the right side is constant, it doesn't lose air. I'm wondering where could it be the issue ... i still had a good quantity of oil on the damper side bath when i opened it (lockout anyway doesn't work at all). I don't think that changing the dust seals would make any difference about it (or am I wrong?).
@pdpcycling2483 жыл бұрын
Pretty straight forward analogy for explaining bike suspension from rider's perspective and good job for the demonstration of suspension parts! However, there are some points need corrections or better explanation to not misleading non-suspension enthusiast viewers. 6:16 That is the upper part where the compression or lock-out knob located (at your hand reach when you ride). 10:29 I think you wanted to refer to the dimple on the wall of air-spring cylinder tube which has main job is to balance the pressure between positive and negative chamber. Some forks will need a bit of cycling the fork to equalise the pressure, but some new forks nowadays may not need to. Some claim that having dimple at zero travel can affect small bump sensitivity... 11:03 The polymer spacer (Topout bumper) in the negative spring chamber is supposed to work as cushion when fork fully extended. (I'm not sure if this scenario is called 'off the top'?...please correct me if I'm wrong) For bottom-out cushioning, some forks has polymer spacer in lower leg to take the hit from stanchion, some cheap coil spring forks has polymer rod in the positive spring chamber to do that task.
@justusernst80533 жыл бұрын
Nice video! One Question can you exchange the fork damper oil without removing the lowers? Or will some oil remain at the bottom under the sliding seal so you don't know how much you need to put back in?
@kanavparashar16413 жыл бұрын
I’m an Indian boy. I liked your video too much. You did a great explanation about this topic. I truly liked your video. It’s very helpful to me
@antreascy69545 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! But i have a question, how does the Cannondale 1 fork bike works ? 😆
@deronkel46432 жыл бұрын
Das beste Erklär- Video zum Thema Gabel i've ever seen!!! 😅🤘🏻👍🏻👌🏻💪🏻
@darkmaster4503 жыл бұрын
Dang. A very good explanation
@javidambra6 жыл бұрын
As some folks has said, you explain the rebound side upside down, the compresion knob is the upper one, and the rebound knob is lower one, near the drops
@budsbularon27164 жыл бұрын
Nice explanation how suspension works
@DiegoVargasEnBici4 жыл бұрын
The best explanation i0ve found. Thanx :D I guess the rear suspension's are the same... Air & coil. it would be great to have thos models with transparent cases to view the inside of the forks and the rear shocks :D
@kindlyklaus94165 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the lesson You're genius🖤
@JamesDownes4 жыл бұрын
How does altering the travel of a shock effect things. I have a suntour raidon 32 lor-ds that I'm thinking of increasing from 120 - 130. My thinking, more air in the chamber softer compression for same amount of PSI, correct?
@endurotrailslife473 жыл бұрын
Hello! my RST first fork are a bit hard, Can you guide me how to adjust the rebund?
@yesmak73893 жыл бұрын
Your videos is informative sir.. gives me a lot of info..
@crownekwt7021 Жыл бұрын
Do you have any ideas about KASTLE HDB suspension fork? Please kindly reply me
@sunteyphotography5 жыл бұрын
Hey hey! Greate video! But unfortunatly you've got a mistake! You should turn up side down reboutdamper. It could be shown correct work of it.
@johnybrokeit9 ай бұрын
This was so amazing for me to watch and learn from! I had no idea that each of the front forks do different things! Engineering is so awesome! I live in india, i am 44 years old, im new to current MTB tech although ive been oggling all these youtube videos for years now. I used to cycle more than i walked during my schooling days. My bicycle was called the StreetCat RockNRoll ❤😂 The coolest bike available in the 90s in india 😅 Cool dad i have! I still havent ridden a 27.5. I stopped a stranger and rode his 29er recently, felt like i was riding a horse, so awkward!! 😂 I'm traveling to thailand and excitedly waiting to ride a cycle trail and hopefully pick up a frame and suspension and cranks to build a cycle cheaper than they sell in india. I ride agressive street, like climbing down stairs and wheelieing and well not stoppies anymore cuz im freakin 80kgs now (still very fit though). I guess my reason for rambling is im hoping to find hints and suggestions for minimum requirements for my dream cycle build. Okay, sorry for rambling! Thank u for this excellent video!
@mixagames54253 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, great video, simply explained and i understood everything! Great job you got a new subscriber! :)
@lxz7516 жыл бұрын
That is really useful for riders, thanks
@johnnybeep4 жыл бұрын
Nice one, mate!
@doncampbell19616 ай бұрын
Great video ! i watched 25 videos and just didnt click. I watched yours ....Boom ! it all made sense! lol. thank you
@rarebreed19843 жыл бұрын
Great explanation, thanks dude.
@albertocastillo45722 жыл бұрын
awesome vid, great props
@mesakhadhiatma24312 жыл бұрын
Hi Sickbiker, I got a problem with my RST Aerial hydraulic compression lockout. It can be locked out, but cannot be locked out perfectly. When it is locked, the suspension is still travelling for about 30 mm. Could you tell me what happened actually to my fork? and what shall I do? Thank you in advance 🙂
@matthewyaron58274 жыл бұрын
That was Awesome!!
@travisrandall65354 жыл бұрын
Hey I know this is an old video but do you know if you could stick a rebound cartridge like from a suntour XCR into a suntour XCM that only has rebound?
@weeg913 ай бұрын
What is more advanced / prone to breaking? Hydro or mech lockout?
@RickB91811 ай бұрын
Hi , I've recently bought extra oxy replacement existing older ones. I want to evacuate the air and recharge or refill with nitrogen as it has many beneficial effects. Do you know if this is something I should do myself or if I could take it to the shop I'm having any difficulty finding one near me in Concord, NH does that does that work. Unless there was someone you can recommend.
@richardnaba89524 жыл бұрын
Very nice. Well explained. Thank you Sir.
@yashladani79863 жыл бұрын
from where you bought this plastic tube ( your special tools in this video ) ?
@savoirfaire89794 жыл бұрын
Great video. No one seems to cover suspension oil weight, tho.
@lefterisgeorgiadis48485 жыл бұрын
where i can find dust seals and foam rings for rst forks?
@cycleventure16566 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Very clearly described.
@nvdesignz5 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanations. What I still don't understand is how the lockout works and I can't find anything on the net.
@lawlerskeetz5 жыл бұрын
It works in the same way as the compression adjustment. It just completely closes off the valve that allows the oil through to the other chamber, rather than having it still open slightly, thus no compression at all so the fork wont move. There was a video that had Jordi Cortes from Fox explaining how it works, but i cant seem to find it.
@nvdesignz5 жыл бұрын
@@lawlerskeetz Thanks man :)
@alamedajon14535 жыл бұрын
It closes the oil flow, as shown in the video.
@jacklynn21084 жыл бұрын
Great, i learned something from you sir. Thank you so much.
@backonthepushy34313 жыл бұрын
Very informative, great job 🤟
@johnfreeman71594 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Easy to understand, I get it now!
@CherryHenry-dv1sn2 жыл бұрын
THX for your good explained!!!
@woosddotcom5 жыл бұрын
great job!
@ludgecal15042 жыл бұрын
hello does the tokens not hit the piston when bottoming out?
@ostankovalex11763 жыл бұрын
Great video, but it does not mention an important part - explaining how negative and positive chambers work and what are they used for :) It's a very interesting topic, and I guess DualAir shocks are really great, allow you more adjustments and less sag
@cupucup966 жыл бұрын
Very good explaination
@claytonhorvat75985 жыл бұрын
Damn, wish I had compression adjustment on the damper side. My fork came with pneumatic travel adjust, which is just insane, didn't know what it came with, it was just a good deal online. I asked about replacing the damper with a R2C2, but apparently I can't. Yeah, the pneumatic travel adjust is just nutters, but the fork was half the price. I would love to work designing bicycle suspension, I feel there's tons of great ideas you could implement.
@qwertykevin15 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you
@rockynash41564 жыл бұрын
Good explanation And good english lesson for me
@LuisOrtiz-hn9wz3 жыл бұрын
Gracias por tu clara explicación! Necesitaba entender como funciona para poder reparar.
@allanarcilla29913 жыл бұрын
Wich is better to use air fork or coil?
@richardkaz23366 жыл бұрын
Springs that are made with a uniform thickness rod will have a linear characteristic. This tweaked to give a spring a progression characteristic changing the pitch of the coil wind and by heat treatment. The true progressive spring will be made by using a tapered rod, one where the rod is slightly thicker over the length of the rod coiled to make the spring too changing the pitch of the spring coil to a smaller pitch at the end where the ticker material is coiled will vary the spring compression progression depending where the pitch changes. If the pitch starts halfway through the spring and the pitch progressively decreases over the remaining length. The the spring will have a linear characteristic for the first half of the compression but will require greater force the more it is compresses beyond the halfway point.
@trinober99874 жыл бұрын
s it possible for a 27.5 aerial fork using 2.75x2.50 tires?
@rendrakw71033 жыл бұрын
This explanation answered my question why all fork's down-tube always connected