Recording Drums At The Tiny Desk (With Josh Rogosin)

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NPR Music

6 жыл бұрын

In honor of the fourth-ever Tiny Desk Contest, our intrepid Tiny Desk audio engineer Josh Rogosin goes deep on recording drums. The Contest closes at 11:59 p.m. ET on March 25, 2018, so get those last-minute submissions in to npr.org/tinydeskcontest!
Remember: You don't need to have fancy audio equipment to make a great entry - just be yourself, and let your music shine through. Good luck!

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@nprmusic
@nprmusic 5 жыл бұрын
Learn more Tiny Desk tech tips from Josh, including this story on microphones, here: www.npr.org/sections/allsongs/2019/04/02/705579879/tiny-tech-tips-microphones
@kamenwaticlients
@kamenwaticlients 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the great work. What type of mixer do you use?
@anilrai9049
@anilrai9049 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! great info but are the instruments and microphones connected to an interface and audio software. How do we connect the microphones and where do we connect? Is it connected to a mixture, interface and audio software. What audio software do you use? would be great if you could share with us the idea for recoding the full song. Are these all played live or first you record an audio and then later sync it with the video?
@gazicj
@gazicj 3 жыл бұрын
@@anilrai9049 great fukin questions! ty:)
@anilrai9049
@anilrai9049 3 жыл бұрын
@@gazicj Oh I want to learn about all these as I really don’t have any idea.
@jamosensei
@jamosensei 6 жыл бұрын
Josh, because of you, TDC artists sound better than on most of their studio albums...Thank you for providing us with the gift of your audio expertise.
@tomlibero3780
@tomlibero3780 6 жыл бұрын
jamosensei You have exactly Right - Lianne La Havas, Andwrson Paak, Tank &Bangas are definitelly better in NPR! So - Now I listen only NPR concerts on YT. Regards!
@antoniodurante
@antoniodurante 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomlibero3780 Dua Lipa too!
@dantemakoya
@dantemakoya 2 жыл бұрын
We appreciate you Josh!
@Afroninja10000
@Afroninja10000 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Phase cancellation (or destructive interference) is used on purpose for noise cancellation headphones. Noise-cancelling headphones actively listen to the noise around you and plays it back "real-time" 180 degrees out of phase which makes the high part of the waveform cancel with the low part of the waveform, so it zeros out. Not that anyone asked...someone might like this haha. I wouldn't have thought of it in this context and how it produces great sound. So cool.
@gitsurfer27
@gitsurfer27 3 жыл бұрын
Thats fascinating i remember seeing something like that on Mark Robers channel. Sound acts in a very bizarre but incredibly interesting way....have you seen cymatics? Where they put sand on a plate and pump certain frequencies through it, and the sand forms geometric patterns due the the "shape" of the sound?
@roarbeats1008
@roarbeats1008 3 жыл бұрын
i've always wondered how. thanks
@angelomartinez2318
@angelomartinez2318 3 жыл бұрын
Ur so cool
@ether5431
@ether5431 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't that greatly affect the sound signature of the can? Just curious, i havent got a noise cancelling headphones myself
@jacdenn8789
@jacdenn8789 3 жыл бұрын
@@ether5431 perfect phase cancellation will result in zero sound. So since we are bringing in the 180 degree phase shift of outside noise signal, it will result in zero sound( or volume) of the outside noises due to phase cancellation. Whereas we can hear the thing we played( music,etc) properly without any problem with the outside noises cancelled out. I hope that this is what you actually asked and you understood my point
@RougeEric
@RougeEric 3 жыл бұрын
So you're the reason Anderson Paak. sounds so much better at Tiny Desk than any other recording... Thanks!
@joshlawrence8091
@joshlawrence8091 3 жыл бұрын
That TDC is awesome! Worth a listen to those who haven't heard it.
@globalsoundconcerts
@globalsoundconcerts 3 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks 🙏
@nickthorpe7567
@nickthorpe7567 6 жыл бұрын
For comparison: 1 mic: 1:06 2 mic: 2:18 3 mic: 3:41
@catoleg
@catoleg 3 жыл бұрын
NPR should pin this comment
@gazicj
@gazicj 3 жыл бұрын
ty much
@brandobin
@brandobin 3 жыл бұрын
This is the most informative drum mic'ing video I've found and I've been watching A LOT
@MoneyAfterDeath
@MoneyAfterDeath 3 жыл бұрын
And it was only 5 min, crazy 💎🔥
@PvtMole
@PvtMole 3 жыл бұрын
What a lovely and precise educational video! Thank you!
@JcGrubbsFilms
@JcGrubbsFilms 6 жыл бұрын
I only put it halfway in the hole, and I can confirm it leads to isolation
@Alanoffer
@Alanoffer 6 жыл бұрын
JcGrubbsFilms As the bishop said to the actress
@smooooth_
@smooooth_ 6 жыл бұрын
im more mature than this i swear
@Gassyyetclassy
@Gassyyetclassy 6 жыл бұрын
The employee retention at NPR Music must be extremely high- these engineers and musicians are geniuses! We appreciate your informative videos. Thank you!
@gssong7111
@gssong7111 6 жыл бұрын
Could this guy be anymore NPR-y?
@sumeursault
@sumeursault 6 жыл бұрын
Ha, nope
@gssong7111
@gssong7111 6 жыл бұрын
mjchmara1 well then, maybe you are too young...kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLaglsl5xK6seGw.html
@sumeursault
@sumeursault 6 жыл бұрын
I'm agreeing with you, e.g. no, he could not be anymore NPR-y. I grew up on mid-90s SNL!
@worm75
@worm75 5 жыл бұрын
FIRST thing I said!
@p0llenp0ny
@p0llenp0ny Ай бұрын
Must be the copious amount of soy they consume.
@trenchf00t88
@trenchf00t88 6 жыл бұрын
I've always been impressed with the sound engineering in this series, and this is exactly the video I wanted to see! Thanks so much for making it! :)
@alifeinheadphones
@alifeinheadphones 3 жыл бұрын
Josh from one audio engineer to another. I love your work every band sound incredible. You do so much with so little. It's an inspiration
@ralphfonda4724
@ralphfonda4724 6 жыл бұрын
Tiny Desk sound is always primo! Clean, natural and organic. Thank you for that inside look!! Kudos!
@simonbarth110
@simonbarth110 6 жыл бұрын
Omg i love you guys, the recordings that you do often appeal to me more than the album of the artists. That you make this series now is the most awesome thimg ever ! Keep up the amazong work
@ATLS702
@ATLS702 3 жыл бұрын
Love the attitude in these videos! So charming, it’s obvious you folks love what you do.
@xaqary
@xaqary 6 жыл бұрын
Finally. A tutorial on how to get that NPR/ Tiny Desk drum sound everyone’s after. Sweet. So hyped. Super.
@chrisneyman
@chrisneyman 3 жыл бұрын
This was so incredibly informative. And short?!? Amazing! Thanks for this!
@AldenAcosta
@AldenAcosta 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Josh and thank you NPR for this very helpful video. I will definitely try these out.
@otegadamagic
@otegadamagic 3 жыл бұрын
Infamous Josh. We love what u do and can't wait for tiny desk to come back to the desk
@KyTaundry
@KyTaundry 5 ай бұрын
Not only was this helpful but your explanation of phase cancellation is probably the best I've ever heard!
@rebeccaryanthomsen6951
@rebeccaryanthomsen6951 9 ай бұрын
Love these educational videos from you guys at tiny desk. ❤
@jcims
@jcims 6 жыл бұрын
YESSSSS!! I've been begging for some engineering vids for a long time. Haven't even watched this one yet but couldn't contain myself lol. Thank you!
@j0s3ph20pte01
@j0s3ph20pte01 3 жыл бұрын
Estos videos son delos los mejores, gracias Josh y todos los que están detrás de Tiny desk:)
@johnbensinger4931
@johnbensinger4931 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much NPR. I need this
@asdf852asdf
@asdf852asdf 6 жыл бұрын
All this videos sound great, thanks for the amazing sound
@acopernic
@acopernic 5 жыл бұрын
Just perfect. Thank you and yes your sound rocks in the chest.
@kumkanimtengwana8981
@kumkanimtengwana8981 5 жыл бұрын
You guys are so generous. Let there be more from where you receive from
@JasonCastellanos
@JasonCastellanos 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a couple of videos of NPR... I am a drummer so always go first to the drum sound.. And .. OMG! this guy nailed in a way that make sing those drums for that kind of place!.. Excellent video!
@MBblink182
@MBblink182 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Josh you are fantastic! Keep these vids coming!
@StookyBill
@StookyBill 6 жыл бұрын
Great video :D would love more of these
@MtSound-ow7vk
@MtSound-ow7vk 3 жыл бұрын
this is like The Joy Of Painting for drum recording. Love it, thanks NPR!
@irmu4556
@irmu4556 6 жыл бұрын
Love it!! keep em coming!!!
@bradjonesband1818
@bradjonesband1818 4 жыл бұрын
You sir are the real hero of tiny desk!
@highwayTY
@highwayTY 6 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO. PLEASE, KEEP THEM COMING. I BEG YOU
@backtofitzgerald00
@backtofitzgerald00 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video!!! More like this please!
@seanporter3616
@seanporter3616 3 жыл бұрын
That's the most adorable (and informative) thing I've seen in ages :)
@enriquejose17
@enriquejose17 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!!! Informative as hell
@smpiggystudio
@smpiggystudio 3 жыл бұрын
The magic is, any mic can be the best mic to suit the recording, in the right man's hand. Hat off for Josh!
@chappahx
@chappahx 6 жыл бұрын
These guys are awesome!
@sgravon3
@sgravon3 6 жыл бұрын
I looked anywhere in the internet for josh’s tips on how he work on tiny desk! Keep these videos on! :D
@NaturalUnity
@NaturalUnity 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro!! I would love to see more of your mic techniques used in tiny desk!! Thanks!
@mr.orlando8093
@mr.orlando8093 3 жыл бұрын
this is really good thanks soooo much!
@Zoesstuff
@Zoesstuff 6 жыл бұрын
Bless you for this!
@ottmgh
@ottmgh 6 жыл бұрын
you guys are awesome.
@camilomateus
@camilomateus 5 жыл бұрын
Simply & it works. Thanks
@wellrod
@wellrod 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your tips!!!
@willmcdaniel8375
@willmcdaniel8375 5 жыл бұрын
This video was more helpful than a lot of other recording technique videos
@Themrfiddy
@Themrfiddy 6 жыл бұрын
So nice tiny, we are waiting for others instrument recordings
@jakealfrednunez6625
@jakealfrednunez6625 3 жыл бұрын
There is. Just try looking further
@rememberme1731
@rememberme1731 3 жыл бұрын
@@jakealfrednunez6625 sir... That comment was 3 years ago
@Stallagmite
@Stallagmite 6 жыл бұрын
I Love the simplicity
@Mictlan.x
@Mictlan.x 6 жыл бұрын
This was short but extremely educational :D I hope one day you make one for voice :3
@danielarco8566
@danielarco8566 3 жыл бұрын
Guys,you are great!Thanks
@jensine.ondrums
@jensine.ondrums 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video!
@chhendokrai4140
@chhendokrai4140 6 жыл бұрын
This video has been really helpful. Thanks.Can you please do a video on live mixing as well?
@GlobalPartyStarters
@GlobalPartyStarters 4 ай бұрын
This was such a great video, I know this was 6 years ago, so maybe time for a follow up video, where he can actually show the drum tracks in his DAW and how he goes about mixing a Tiny Drums session? Please 🙏
@ChrisDuquez
@ChrisDuquez 6 жыл бұрын
This is so awesome. I just recently downsized my interface from an 8 input to a 2 input audio interface, so this helps me work with what I got haha!
@nouslesdeux5j100
@nouslesdeux5j100 6 жыл бұрын
All the best i wish you.. Greats from Germany ☀️☀️😎
@bluesbuster2000
@bluesbuster2000 6 жыл бұрын
More!!!!! Thx.
@dtrio3996
@dtrio3996 3 жыл бұрын
So this is the guy behind the incredible mix of every tiny desk concert
@sujja150
@sujja150 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks you Josh.
@Yozi6414
@Yozi6414 2 жыл бұрын
Josh Sooo Talented ❤️
@BuddyCoopers
@BuddyCoopers 6 жыл бұрын
Josh does a fantastic job.
@97gile
@97gile 6 жыл бұрын
more of this please
@SFTbeats
@SFTbeats 6 жыл бұрын
This was great!
@fachas54
@fachas54 3 жыл бұрын
Nice tips. Congratulations!!!. Greetings from Mexico City
@BrandonLaukat
@BrandonLaukat 6 жыл бұрын
More please
@Fabelnegros
@Fabelnegros 6 жыл бұрын
i second that !
@anthonynunyabizness9989
@anthonynunyabizness9989 3 жыл бұрын
This was excellent advice.
@schiffdigital
@schiffdigital 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Josh- I used to work with Glyn a lot in the '80's & '90's and have a slight correction. The left mic just peeks over the floor tom, not above the cymbals.
@globalsoundconcerts
@globalsoundconcerts 6 жыл бұрын
Joe Schiff thanks so much joe! Amazing to hear a first hand account. Looking forward to listening to the difference.
@schiffdigital
@schiffdigital 6 жыл бұрын
Glad to help! You do great work. I love the TDCs.
@fullysickrockstar
@fullysickrockstar 5 жыл бұрын
This is fucking cool
@the-engneer
@the-engneer Ай бұрын
That is awesome! Thank you for the knowledge
@tbhv
@tbhv 4 жыл бұрын
this is actually amazing
@fattmusiek5452
@fattmusiek5452 10 ай бұрын
Love it
@mr.tutchi
@mr.tutchi Жыл бұрын
you are a genius my friend!
@jeanplayapex
@jeanplayapex 3 жыл бұрын
He’s a wonderful man
@RMuliaina
@RMuliaina 3 жыл бұрын
We need one of these videos from the videographer who filmed adele's tiny desk 👍
@matteotambussi
@matteotambussi 6 жыл бұрын
I Love you Josh, you're super. :)
@webstercat
@webstercat 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely & Fabulous tips darling.
@kylejamusic
@kylejamusic 6 жыл бұрын
thank you! really interesting
@bigwilly528
@bigwilly528 6 жыл бұрын
Hummingbirds are so nice 👍🏻
@flaviotelirio5538
@flaviotelirio5538 6 жыл бұрын
Thank NPR Music !
@ayoungethan
@ayoungethan 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a general walkthrough/overview of how he gets such consistently good sound in such a tight spot from so many different artists...what's his mindset? process?
@infinityx678
@infinityx678 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to hear a sample of the SM58 inside of the kick lol
@gregponce2921
@gregponce2921 3 жыл бұрын
I just tried this in my own recording and I can confirm, 58 on a kick sounds great
@gitsurfer27
@gitsurfer27 3 жыл бұрын
sm58 ftw, but take off the pop filter first for extra meatiness.
@TheEpicCookie324
@TheEpicCookie324 3 жыл бұрын
@@gitsurfer27 so just a sm57 haha
@EarleMonroe
@EarleMonroe 6 жыл бұрын
I know next to nothing about recording and engineering. It was cool to learn some things from this.
@jasonvotaw5966
@jasonvotaw5966 4 жыл бұрын
Great Video!
@erlendjulieb1760
@erlendjulieb1760 Жыл бұрын
YES, finaly we get introduced to the legend himself.
@BoredPandaNomNom
@BoredPandaNomNom 5 жыл бұрын
The genius!
@ChrisWhittenMusic
@ChrisWhittenMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man - Tip #3 - don't wrench your mic stands into different positions without loosening the tightening screws first, unless you want to throw away your nice mic stands every couple of years.
@clancybrett8414
@clancybrett8414 Жыл бұрын
The sheer number of times ive watched this video when recording drums is astronomical
@nebelgeist
@nebelgeist 3 жыл бұрын
nice tutorial :D Really helpful, thanks just an idea how to make these tutorials even more helpful: If you play the same groove every time it's much easier to actually hear the differences between the recording methods :) Else you might be fooled by the groove or the style of playing. For me the first Take with one mic sounded the best, but thats probs because I liked the groove the most :)
@plainsimple7726
@plainsimple7726 6 жыл бұрын
more !!
@Alpha_7227
@Alpha_7227 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video. sure Anderson Paak and all the other great musicians play brilliantly, but without you guys being so professional and expert at your job, then the best musicians will sound average. Thanks for explaining so it was so easy to understand. Cheers.
@SwimwearDepartment
@SwimwearDepartment 6 жыл бұрын
We did ours with a single overhead. Shoulda used the knee!!! I hope our entry is still eligible.
@BD-lq4id
@BD-lq4id 6 жыл бұрын
Let me just say the sound in Tiny Desk Concerts is always amazing!!! So this is so cool to see why and learn at the same time!! I wonder, is the EQ done live or is it preset in rehearsals and never touched again? Great stuff!!
@globalsoundconcerts
@globalsoundconcerts 5 жыл бұрын
Lots of EQ after in the computer DAW
@frnocus8057
@frnocus8057 Жыл бұрын
grasias
@TimSuliman
@TimSuliman 3 жыл бұрын
We Will Rock You was people stomping on a stage, but your point is well made.
@faridvargas8881
@faridvargas8881 3 жыл бұрын
that very first rim hit really scared the bejeezus out of me
@Vnzo
@Vnzo 3 жыл бұрын
any1 else watching this even though they don't plan on recording drums anytime soon lol?
@ProducedbyAleex
@ProducedbyAleex 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's just me, but I love the sound of the 1 mic technique...
@KAMDOLLARSIGN
@KAMDOLLARSIGN 3 жыл бұрын
1 & 3 for me
@matthewdonaldleddy
@matthewdonaldleddy 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you put it?
@KAMDOLLARSIGN
@KAMDOLLARSIGN 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewdonaldleddy if you watched the video he uses the right knee technique
@prestonfulks4360
@prestonfulks4360 6 жыл бұрын
it's tiny it's tiny and it fits right in
@JulianFernandez
@JulianFernandez 6 жыл бұрын
yessss
@kjones311
@kjones311 6 жыл бұрын
KEXP vs TND mic crews need to be a throwdown
@taurtue
@taurtue 4 жыл бұрын
KEXP sucks totally in comparison with TDC
@ralphiegixenflargle
@ralphiegixenflargle 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to hear about approach to panning drums
@nadavfriedmanmusic
@nadavfriedmanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really trying to learn this stuff and this is a great video. I wonder, wouldn't the 3 mic setup have the phase cancellation you spoke of just a moment before? It didn't seem like the mics are at the same distance from the snare drum.
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