My main issue is that when you do a season mode you can't have multiple paint schemes in a carset, because the points are tabulated differently. It should go by number and driver, not by individual car.

The NR2003 replay camera is still WAY WAY WAY better then Heat 4 and 5. I would have expected Heat 5 to have something similar to NR2003 but I guess not.

In #7 i actually had one daytona race where the outside line actually held their own and terry labonte won from the top. Probably the best plate racing I’ve had on this game

One of my biggest issues is how bad the AI can be at avoiding crashes. Whether it be getting clobbered 20 seconds after the wreck, or the way they keep bumping into one another creating 40mph big ones, the AI constantly get themselves into shenanigans. Just thought of another thing, flips never feel natural. Sure you can get weight-shifts and blowovers with some .ini manipulation but that only effects the player car and never the AI. Most of the time what should be a simple t-bone ends up pitching the car over. Despite some flaws I still love this game and its yet to be beaten even 17 years later!

The #7 problem is almost impossible to be sucessfuly resolved, you need to have a multi groove racing surface (concrete, asphalt and paint grip), and tweak those grips to give like the triple grip to the outside line, so the ai can hang around it, its quite disappointing considering that Nascar had a working outside line since pretty much the beggining of it, and Papyrus made a huge mistake not doing a good outside lane

If there was ever a way to combine NR2003 or Thunder 2004 it would be the greatest thing ever.

Easily one of my biggest complaints about Nr2003 is the horrendously outdated force feedback compared to modern sims. Instead of relaying what your tires are feeling on the racing surface, it just pulls your wheel to the banking of the track. This can sometimes make certain tracks unnecessarily difficult as your car would get lose one way but the direction of the force feedback wouldn’t change

My issue is not to have Red Flags

To quote the comedian James Acaster: "Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with!"

Number 9: The game crashes for no reason sometimes, I think it's because of the mods

the AI under caution is what keeps me up at night. i’ve been wrecked too many times by cars trying to catch up to where they belong in line and not giving a damn about other cars in the way

I had overlooked these. Good stuff. Thank you for the upload.

about the lapped down cars that's actually not a problem, but a feature (I'm talking about the lap car not giving the place for the leader) the racing back then was like this, you had a lot of guys who were known for not giving the place and making the life of the leader miserable, because there was no lucky dog rule to prevent this

Also this game was released in February of 2003 before the season even started. It probably does a better job “simulating” how a 2002 car would perform over a 2003 car. There were updates throughout the year, but even at that, the cars are more 2002.5 than anything. There’s a lot of issues in this game, inaccurate tracks and iffy physics, etc. it’s to be expected from a game this old. If you go into it expecting hyper realism, you’re gonna be disappointed. Just have fun with it. Also, I was working on a career mode that was a hybrid between actual player ability and an offline mode. I’ve showed you the RSSR&D stuff before I believe.

Score4 is a good way to do a custom career mode too.

Caution glitches are usually the biggest problem for me. Especially at tracks like Bristol. The A.I. take so long to get in order that most of the field becomes a lap down after making their pit stops.

my main issue has always seemingly been short tracks and slow speed corners like chicanes as the ai loves to slam into the outside wall when running side by side at short tracks.. and i mean hard. and dont even get me started on when a chicane comes up on a road course and the ai runs itself off the track and loses ages of time, made worse when running side by side. it makes some tracks completely unusable

NR2003 has flaws, but there is a reason it is the doom of sim racing, the mods are timeless and the game is a cult classic amongst fans. With that said, the base game is indeed shallow in features. I agreed with your video to make a long story short.

My main problem is adjusting the AI difficulty. The basic 71% is way to easy on Championship mode I am having 19 win seasons and I struggle to find that sweet spot if I turn it up too high the AI cars drive away from me to like a 8 second lead only 2 laps in. Would be nice if there was a easier way to have close side by side racing were everyone is pretty much competitive

My biggest gripe is the fact the code is hardlocked. Every mod can only have a maximum of four car models, meaning that if a mod represents an era where there were more than four manufacturers, mod makers have to get creative (for example, in Aero88 and Cup90, Oldsmobile and Buick share a car model). And the worst part is that nobody can even begin to try cracking the code without iRacing setting their lawyers on them.

there was one time i thought a lapped car was a leader and i thought i just had to stay infront of him, by the time the race was over i realise the car right infront of me was 1st place lol

I think this is a really good video, showcasing the flaws in what seems like the perfect game. However I noticed that most of these, can be fixed using third party tools, such as track sandbox or freecam. One flaw I think also deserves to be on this list, maybe as an honorable mention, is not being able to turn off disqualification. It gets pretty annoying when playing with friends online

I never grew up on nr2003 but I definitely played nascar 08

3:21 iRacing is just like that only with real people 😂

Never really thought of the presentation that much. However, you didn't mention the fact that the car tends to overreact to load transfers to the front wheels.

Rain delays would be pretty cool, it would be even better and maybe even a troll of you couldn’t sim the rain delay

When you hit the wall at high speed, the car tilts the wrong way Ex: trying to recreate the 2009 Coke Zero 400, Busch's car shifts to the right instead of left

Wow I forgot all about this game. Used to pretend I would get in these crazy wrecks after being at pocono raceway when I was a kid. I must’ve been about 10 years old at the time. All I cared about was crashing lol

I experienced a couple of these in the last race I had. I was racing late models at the new Nashville track and I was leading but in the middle of lap traffic. One lap down car didn't yield and pinned me down exiting a turn. We banged doors and my car started going out of the control while the other just kept on going. I saved the car from hitting a wall too hard, and the AI racing back to the line was actually really great at avoiding a wreck. A few months ago, racing with the MENCS19 mod at APT's Denver oval, a caution came out several laps in. I caught up to the pace car and slowed down. Austin Dillon did not slow down when he caught up and ran into me at full speed.

10: Some paint schemes don’t go into the game even when downloaded correctly. This usually happens with TGA files.

My problem was having to go into the track.ini and edit the track ai just so they can wreck on their own

I feel as #7 is explainable, on the outside is either jam packed, to tight on turns where a car gets spun and kills every other car, or causing a big one on the tri oval, the inside is more free, if someone causes a big one, move to the grass, if someone is giving you a bump, well idk how to solve that on the inside or outside, but I fell like inside is just the better lane.

by the way, can you do a tier list video on the ai for each track? if Richmond isn't a category i'm suing

Without watching, the good ol' let's wreck under yellow... ugh...

am i the only person having problems with the controls? i have to use only certain keys because WSAD and the arrows do not work on the control change menu. i use two hands uncomfortably on the keypad making it hard to control. if you could hook me up with a tip or mod to fix it then that would be great.

Surprised neither of these were mentioned but by far the biggest flaws with the game in my opinion are: 1) Race back to the line. The rule was discontinued in 2003 and was widely regarded as a horrible, dangerous and unsportman-like rule for years prior to that. Should have been an option you can turn off because it screws you over if AI wrecks you, and often makes wrecks way worse (Just like in real life). 2) You can manually throw cautions but only if computer controlled cautions are turned on, making it a useless function. This has no excuse. Developed in 2002 or not, it's a massive oversight on the devs' part and one I can see no justifcation for. If yellow flags are turned off you should still be able to manually throw out cautions. It's absolutely essential for multiplayer with multiple humans and AI. Yes if only humans are playing you can just have a player pacecar and do yellows yourselves, but if AI are in the mix you have to be able to throw cautions when you want (the computer is way too quick to throw them, often throwing them when the last car in the line spins into the infield and no other cars are effected). This very nearly kills the game for me. I only have 2-3 friends who I play this game with. I can't fill out even a half field with humans. We need AI in the mix and simply put, the computer cautions, combined with race back to the line can ruin a 50 lap race for us. We aren't dedicated sim racers, we play for fun. I pray some day someone manages to reverse engineer the code and makes it open source so we can have more comprehensive mods to get rid of these oversights.

yo! thankies for the review. could you do the same with NASCAR 15 that you're working the career mode on? Boy, there's too much to list over here.

The spins as well are some type of problem, the a.i just slides to the right.

Just got the game, upgraded from nr4. My only beef is that it’s missing the Ganassi cars 40,41,and42

Do you have the excel for the self-mad career mode? even though I've been turned numerous times at Bristol, Martinsville, and Richmond because i left 1/2 car width open but it somewhat what an aggressive driver would do IE Dale SR and Ky Busch. Catching slow cars at Tall and Day is the worst. always need to be aware if catching a slow car(s) to make sure in the right lane.

Always wished there was a career mode for this game

Since I am new to the game and its modding I have had a couple things I was curious about when it came to mod support 1. Can the game be simmed, like from the beginning to end with a mod? 2. Is there a way I can eliminate my driver when I sim races 3. Is there any good scoreboard mods, anything on the screen that I can use to look at while the race is live. A ticker 4. The best way to find original cup mod skins (past and present and maybe fictional ones too) 5. Good Fun Fantasy Tracks and Where to find them? 6. A very easy way of scoring your races outside of Season Mode 7. Name and Number above the car as it is going by you, or while watching in spectator mode 8. Way to skip Cautions as if its like Thunder 2004 or any other EA/704 games 9. Why Certain Tracks Won't Work and will cancel weekend

#5 "Hamlin AI"

Oh, I fucked up. Forgot to tell you, the issue with AI not passing is caused by ratings. By default, the Papyrus carset has the ratings set very similar across the board to give more diverse results, but a byproduct of it is slower cars being just fast enough to fuck over a faster car. It’s kinda the “One thing to catch another to pass” mantra. You can of course change the ratings or use a program like NRatings, but the issue is you’ll almost always have one car that’s super OP and can outright win almost every race of a 36 race season. You really have to know what you’re doing to make ratings work. If you don’t, it’s borderline sadomasochism to get the game to co-operate.

My biggest problem with the game is that you cant use tracks that you downloaded for championship mode, but i only got this game 4 DAYS ago, so maybe i can

I many of these things I say you can't expect from a game that was made in 2003. For 2003 standards in my mind, this is a total masterpiece and remains better then many of the NASCAR racing games today.

#6: "Newman AI"

1:15 "It's Elliott Sadler."

1:21 Me who wins at default talladega using the outside lane am I a joke to you?

I have tried bump and runs. AI gets turned a bit, enought to loosen it, nope. I get spun 400 degrees and T boned by another car whilst eating barrier.

You're giving a flaws list for a game released in 2003 and it is now 2020

How do you install freecam/ install more cameras for a track into NR2003 for Windows 10?

The Lap down ai really pisses me off. I will lead for like 30 laps catch the last place car and they will either cut me off or run me into the wall. So annoying.

I'm sure you know by now, but you can adjust the ini files to fix all of the issues in this video. Edit: except for the lapped cars. Also, I spoke too soon. Didn't know you were going to talk about ini files.

To get rid of contact physics, enable driving assist in settings. This helps.

Yes

Question, How do i Go fast During a Racing league or In singleplayer Without it Sound like it will spin out or i will, And Im waiting for a new Car mod. And what is the best mod

how has the cancel mob passed by this guy? heresy!!! to the pitchforks folks!!!

I wish we could contact Papyrus and ask them to make another PC Nascar game for us😂

Hi, im playing this game only for fun on my controller and when im pitting and everything is done im getting penalty on exit, and i getting it always can someone tell me what i need to do ? I cant drive a race normally because in every race i getting penalty

The problem: MAKE IT FREE

Moral of the video: Don't use default nr2003 content

Re calibrating?

I need help with my g29 on this game

How do i join this league?

You should know this very well, no NASCAR game is perfect.

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Take a look at EAs nascar sim racing

All of these are such big flaws in NR2003 especially lapped cars. some physics mods like NR2018 Solve This very well though

My main issue is that The Number Goes above 99 so there like 111 or like 102 or 160 Just Annoys Me

Don't get me started on lapped cars 🤢

What do you expect, its a game from 2003

NR2003's AI is really what turns the game off for me The AI races well around cars and when racing, but when they're trying to avoid a crash, on pit road, doing anything with a lapped car, or even just under a caution its like you handed a 4 year old with broken thumbs a half broken Xbox 360 controller and told them to play NASCAR 09

My Game Crashes Everytime I Try To Paint A Car!