Ib qhov nuam ntawm lus Hmoob 'A view of Hmong language'.
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@wonanwb33Ай бұрын
Raws li paub ntawv Hmoob tsis sau sib lo...lus As-kiv lawv hu hais tias ntawv Hmoob yog ib hom lus "monosyllabic language". Txhua txhua lo lus Hmoob puav leej muaj tus cim ntawv suab sau xaus rau ntawm lo lus Hmoob ntawd. Lus Hmoob thiaj yog hom lus hais muaj suab; lus As-kiv hu ua "tonal language". Yog muab tus cim suab txawv sau lo rau tib lo lus, lo lus ntawv yuav muaj dua lwm lub ntsiab lus lawm; xws li: "koj, kom, kov, kog, kob..." Raws li cov tsim ntawv Hmoob thaum chij thawj, lawv tsis tau muab ib tus ntawv cim suab los sau nyob hauv nrub nrab ib lo lus. Tus ntawv cim suab tsuas sau tau rau tom qab qhov kawg ntawm los lus ntawd xwb; xws li "sib ntsib" nws muaj ob lo lus ua ke tsis sib lo. lo lus "sib" sau xaus rau tus ntawv cim suab "b" thiab lo luas "ntsib" los kuj xaus rau tus ntawv cim suab "b". "sib ntsib" yeej sau muaj ob lo lus zoo li no: "sib ntsib" tsis yog sau ua "sibntsib". Qhov no mas hais raws li tus txheej txheem kev sau ntawv Hmoob uas cov tsim ntawv Hmoob tau tsim tseg thaum lawv xub xub tsim cov ntawv Hmoob no.
@mayvang3637Ай бұрын
I agree that Hmong is a "tonal language" but not monosyllabic language as we have been taught mistakenly. Why do you hyphenate the Hmong word, "As-kiv"? Is it not this Hmong tonal syllabic word of "Askiv" is 1 meaning and 1 word? For instance, "Yesxus" in diacritic would be "Yèxù" because it is 1 name 1 meaning and 2 syllables.
@wonanwb33Ай бұрын
@@mayvang3637 Koj ib nyuag piav koj meej zog saib vim li cas koj hais tias "as we have been taught mistakenly that Hmong language is monosyllabic". Hais txog "monosyllabic" Kuv hais txog lus Hmoob xwb. Kuv tsis tau hais txog lwm hais neeg lus sau ua suab lus Hmoob, xws li "As-kiv". Sau ua ib los "Askiv or hypenated As-kiv" los yeej tsis ua li cas vim tsis yog lus Hmoob. "As-kiv" peb hais raws li lo lus "English" ua suab Hmoob xwb. Lo lus "Yexus", tseeb tiag yuav tsum sau ua "Ye Xus/Yes-Xus/Ye-xus", tiam sis cov neeg uas txhais phau ntawv "Bible" ua lus Hmoob thaum lub sij hawm 70's lawv muab sau li ntawd lawm, ces cia li siv li lawm xwb. "Yexus" tsis yog ib lub npe Hmoob. "Yexus" yog ib lub npe lus "Aramaic" uas hu ua "Isho" los sis lus "Hebrew" hu ua "Yeshua". Hais txog peb cov npe Hmoob, piv sam tias ib tus tub lub npe hu ua "Tub Ntxhais' raws li txheej txheem ntawv Hmoob uas yog cov tsim ntawv Hmoob sau cia, peb tsis sau "Tub Ntxhais" ua "Tubntxhais". Yog tus ntxhais hu ua "Paj Huab Poob", raws li tus txheej txheem, peb tsis sau ua "Pajhuabpoob". Txawm hais tias li cas los kuv ntseeg hais tias sau raws li tus txheej txheem ntawv Hmoob uas cov tsim ntawv Hmoob tau tsim tseg yuag yog dua thiaj li yuav tsis plam "the beauty of the language", raws li xav. Yog muaj sij hawm, koj mus xyuas ntawm toom "phonology" ntawm www.britannica.com/topic/Hmong-Mien-languages.
@hmongabcalphabet9015Ай бұрын
Tiag thiab tseeb mas peb Hmoob li lus TSIS YOG "monosyllable" zooli cov txivplig lawv qhia dhau los lawm. Pivtxwv, KOJ lolus "As-kiv" koj twb siv tus cim "hyphen" los txuas kom sawvdaws paub meej tias nws YOG 1 lolus thiab 1 lub jiab xwb; nws tsis yog sau sibnrug. Instead of the 'hyphen' we can just join the 2 tonal syllables as ONE word with one meaning. Why do we have to use a 'hyphen' to complicate the situation; it adds an extra character. My hope is to simplify and make sense of our Hmong writing if WE ARE to use Lastees (over 140 countries use it). For example this word "kuatxob (pep/per)", the first tonal syllable "kua" has no tone marker so regardless we gonna join the two tonal syllables as "kuatxob". Other examples are: kuadis, qhuatxws, qhuapias, keetiam. Koj ho xav seb qhov twg raug thiab zoo zog: As-mes-lis-kas vs Amelika, Khas-lis-faus-nias vs Khalifaunia, laum-kib-tshooj vs laumkibtshooj.
@wonanwb33Ай бұрын
@@hmongabcalphabet9015 Raws li kuv paub mas lus hmoob yog lus muaj suab thiab hais ib los rau ib los lus Hmoob yog "monosyllable" thiab "tonal language". Lo lus "As-kiv" tos kuv ntxiv tu "hyphen" rau los twb yog vim lo lus no tsis yog tseem lus Hmoob. Peb hais ua suab lus Hmoob raws li lo lus Nplog "ອັງກິດ" xwb. Rau ntawm kuv, lo lus twg yog qev luag lus los hais thiab siv ces rau "hyphen" los yeej ok tsis rau los yeej ok. Hos yog muab cov tseem lus Hmoob los sib lo ua ib los xws li "kuatxob", kuadis...etc, ces kuv xav tias txhob lo xwv thiaj tuav tau qhov hais tias lus Hmoob yog "monosyllabic language" thiab qhov "the beauty of the Hmong language". Tshaj li qhov ntawd lawm, lawv cov tsim ntawv Hmoob ntawd, tsis yog muaj txiv plig ua tus tsim xwb tiam sis kuj muaj cov neeg dawb tawv uas yog "linguist" nrog tus txiv plig ntawd tsim cov ntawv Hmoob no thiab. Cov ntawv Hmoob no twb raug tsim los tau 70+ lub xyoo lawm, tiam sis peb cov Hmoob sawv daws twb tseem paub tsis tau tas. Ua li yog tseem ho muab coj los sib lo ne thaum twg peb Hmoob mam li ho yuav paub cov ntawv Hmoob npaum li hnub no. Raws li xav mas yog ho xyaum muab ntawv Hmoob sib lo ces tseem yuav tau tsim kom muaj tuv kav los sis tus txheej txheem sau ntawv Hmoob thiab, qhov no tseem haj yam yuav ua rau sawv daws kawm ntawv Hmoob kom qeeb dua qub ntxiv.... hais txog cov lus tsis yog lus Hmoob xws li As-mes-lis-kas, Khas-lis-faus-nias, rau "hyphen" thiab tsis rau yeej tsis ua luaj twg vim tsis yog tseem lus Hmoob. Hos "laumkibtshooj" ces yog tseem lus Hmoob "laum kib tshooj" yog peb lo lus (3 syllables), thawj lo xaus tus cim suab "m", lo ob xaus rau "b" thiab lo peb xaus rau tus cim suab "j". Raws li paub, txhua lo lus Hmoob yeej xaus rau ib tus ntawv cim suab nyob tom qab lo lus ntawd. Yog muab sib lo lawm ces kuj yuav yooj yim rau cov nyiam sau ntawv Hmoob sib lo, tiam sis lo lus ntawd yuav muaj cov cim suab sib xaws pes ntxaws nrog cov ntawv txiv thiab ntawv niam (consonants & vowels). Nov tsuas yog kuv tus kheej txoj kev xav thiab xam pom xwb....