Nuances of Neutral

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This won't be my last video on the subject. After mulling over the script for a couple months as I worked on editing I came to realise the shortcomings of the things presented in this video. It is a little surface level so I plan to go further into separate topics in the future. I'm learning a lot as I research and articulate so explanations on stuff like this will get better as time goes on. My writing is incredibly stilted when it comes to explicitly informative content as well, so I'll make an effort to improve on that front onwards. So, apologies for lackluster content after such a long hiatus.
But enough self-depreciation, let's get into peripheral information.
Timestamps:
1:11 - Consideration of options
5:07 - Differences in ranges and space
12:00 - Focus
15:57 - Me furiously masturbating over Vagabond
FURTHER READING
Neutral is a versatile topic. This video WON'T suffice as a full neutral guide. Read up using the following links (Quite a few of these are for traditional fighting games as opposed to Smash, but are still very good at teaching concepts. Just make the transition from traditional FGs to Smash):
/ the_holy_bible_of_neut...
This whole thread contains lots of great links to various Neutral game guides. Primarily to do with Street Fighter but still educational.
/ bboyleggo
I've talked about Jay Rego often before and with good reason. The best fighting game content on KZfaq.
sonichurricane.com/?page_id=1702
Really great multi-part guide to different footsies instances
www.sirlin.net/ptw/
Not really specific to neutral but is a must read for any competitor. Discusses Sun Tzu-esque ideas.
VAGABOND LINK:
Support the official release, support the artist yada yada. Everyone just reads their manga online for free anyway so here's a decent reader with good quality scans: mangaseeonline.net/manga/Vagabond
• Video
This is a link to all the Vagabond animations I did. Don't really plan on using them again so they're free to use by anyone. No credit needed.
Tournament footage used:
• TBH6 GRAND FINALS - TS...
• EVO 2014 SSBM Losers Q...
Edited using Adobe Premiere and Adobe After Effects.
Music:
Muramasa the Demon Blade OST (arrange version) - Frugal Eating
Seven Samurai OST - Kanbei & Katsushiro-Kikuchiyo's Mambo
Muramasa the Demon Blade OST - Frugal Eating
Muramasa the Demon Blade OST - Fortune Returning
Muramasa the Demon Blade OST - Fated Relationship
Seven Samurai OST - Samurai Search
Seven Samurai OST - Two Search for Samurai
Seven Samurai OST - Harvesting
Seven Samurai OST - Six Samurai

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@MrDanishbuttercookie 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing job! I loved it

@Benji_Jokjo 3 жыл бұрын

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@user-dy9tf1ch1n 3 жыл бұрын

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@Benji_Jokjo 2 жыл бұрын

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@nathanieljones8043 4 жыл бұрын

How is this at 62k views 3 years later it should be at minimum 1.5 million

@leesus4431 7 жыл бұрын

Hands down one of the best videos I've watched. Ever.

@jeromemanyema9868 4 жыл бұрын

honestly, like this is forreal content where you can feel that the creator put hie heart into it!

@not_skully 2 жыл бұрын

I came back to watch this five years later for Guilty Gear: Strive because the content and concepts are so well articulated and is incredibly well delivered.

@contrary6480 7 жыл бұрын

Do you have a Patreon? This is the only Smash channel I would be willing to help fund. Amazing work as always, dude.

@finbao 7 жыл бұрын

Absolute ripper of a video. I AM ENTRANCED by you Mr Tree. Incredible.

@DekuTree 7 жыл бұрын

Don't make me push you down some stairs again.

@irisofrosebloom8741 7 жыл бұрын

I love videos like this. The amount of information you convey while remaining easy to understand is amazing and it really helps to know this kind of thing both when playing and writing about the game. I'd even go as far as to say what you lack in an upload schedule you make up for in quality that exceeds that of Izaw.

@johnkim9824 4 жыл бұрын

Dude. Where did you go? This channel is legendary.

@VenatorXVenator 5 жыл бұрын

This is easily the single most informative fighting game video on the internet, this information imo is priceless and invaluable. I have been watching and referencing this video ever since you released it and I wanted to come back and thank you so much for this. It has broadened my game knowledge and play so high.

@TheredstrawberrySRK 5 жыл бұрын

As a Street Fighter player picking up ultimate, this has been super helpful in showing the similarities between the games. Thank you so much!

@CodyRockLee13 7 жыл бұрын

Dude, Deku, the quality of the presentation and information in this video is astounding. I learned quite a lot, especially since neutral is probably the area I could use the most improvement. Keep it up, man, I can't wait to see what you put out next!

@semnijespar587 7 жыл бұрын

You're one of the most informative youtubers who talk about video games in such depth. I'm honestly extremely impressed by the level of knowledge, and the layout that you make your videos in is incredibly helpful, I hope you continue create such high quality videos :)

@IagoSoares_ 7 жыл бұрын

I can't seem to find a better channel for everything that I want to know. Congrats on the job, you're truly amazing

@Connector7th 2 ай бұрын

This timeless video has helped me throughout the years.

@MikeBachful 7 жыл бұрын

This is amazing man! This video is a refreshing perspective to smash and a great contribution to the community. I love how this level of knowledge of a game can be applied to any aspect of life if you think about it. Smash and introspection ftw!

@SpencerPatt 7 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the quality of your work. Definitely my favorite smash channel

@jf_smash9241 7 жыл бұрын

This is the best video I have seen explaining the neutral. Very well detailed and very well thought out. Outstanding job!

@rohitadapa5239 3 жыл бұрын

I found this gem about 3 years ago and I still come back and watch it from time to time thank you

@deeztb484 7 жыл бұрын

Man, I remember talking to you about this and how you said you were finding it hard to explain it in a video. Good stuff dude

@KageManTV 7 жыл бұрын

This is one of the best videos I have come across dude. Thanks a ton for explaining these concepts.

@UhhhDust 4 ай бұрын

Wanted to let you know that this video has genuinely changed my life. Getting back into smash 5 years after my training partner passed away has been hard, but this video and others like the how to use needles video give me answers to a lot of the questions ive had. Thank you Deku Tree. I wish you the best.

@NonJohns 7 жыл бұрын

I love all the details in this video and now I know why the next video was taking so long it was totally worth the wait though

@Glitchnator 7 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, i really like this clean style with white backrounds etc. . You not only found stuff for me to read and improved my game, you also also finally made me pick up Sheik! Thanks!

@Clubvirg 7 жыл бұрын

Deku, this is the absolute best video I've ever seen on what neutral is. If anyone ever needs to understand what it is, I'm going to refer them to this vid. Great job, once again. Going on my favorites.

@carlosfeliz9807 7 жыл бұрын

best video on the neutral by far. this deserves way more views.

@zaphyy 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! I loved how you combined the artstyle of Vagabond with some of the moves of Smash, that was pretty sick :D

@atari_hmb 2 жыл бұрын

By far one of my favorite breakdowns.

@Leaonidus 7 жыл бұрын

God this is a beautiful video, and your voice is so calming, and the content is really solid. Keep making balling content man.

@chocobros1 6 жыл бұрын

Realized just now that I'm watching this on the 1 year anniversary of its publication. Gonna have to check out the other videos on this channel because if you can get a year's worth of improvement with this as your starting point you may just be the best smashtuber out there.

@irisutroske4033 4 жыл бұрын

I feel everyone from Kurosawa to Pause and Select here; your later work was truly a high point for fighting game theory as an art form. Even as someone familiar with the risks of experimentation, I can only imagine the labor and turmoil such projects demanded of you, and as such I must thank you all the more for having elevated your craft to its peak. The wisest of trees die young, it seems...

@irisutroske4033 4 жыл бұрын

"So here lies the horseshoe guy. A no-more hero who sold his soul for fillies and foals. A hoopy frood who was cool but rude. A bonifide real-heel footwear dude -- who tried to beat up the ocean, but always ended up... drowning."

@brianservino23 7 жыл бұрын

You perfectly explained how neutral works on a high competitive level. Amazing job man, I'm gonna subscribe to you.

@mlv5746 7 жыл бұрын

thank you i've never heard a clearer answer to this complicated question

@calebrobertson3376 7 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you're back!

@ThaMxUp 6 жыл бұрын

there are no words to describe how helpful this video was

@threethej_rock 7 жыл бұрын

This video is so well done, omg answers a lot of questions I've been asking myself! Thank you! ❄

@stevenn663 5 жыл бұрын

This was so well put together

@TheTimeDictator 7 жыл бұрын

Very good explanation of the neutral game. Been playing FGs (Street Fighter mainly) for a while and I eventually learned all these concepts but their meanings got lost to muscle memory. Thanks for reminding me and good work on making this.

@novax7702 7 жыл бұрын

This tutorial godlike . We need this man to be more well known in the Smash Community

@MiaxiAuburn 7 жыл бұрын

This is honestly the greatest video out there on this subject

@jamesvillamor1842 4 жыл бұрын

How does this video have not even 100K views? This is a crime.

@XXXPEACEXXX7 7 жыл бұрын

This was beautifully put and broken down also the editing and music was on point! Really great work on this also deff checking out that manga out thank you!

@PenguinjitsuX 5 жыл бұрын

That Japanese/Samurai music and graphics made the video super nice to watch! It made it really relaxing and interesting.

@combokings8346 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you soooooo much! I need this more than the techs I don't use.

@vaannebilim 5 жыл бұрын

Dude I saw vagabond in the thumbnail then seikah simbol to know this is a smash video what a beautiful mix of random things

@TheClintamis 7 жыл бұрын

This video is incredible. Well done. I think this will really help me out.

@ADayInTheLab 7 жыл бұрын

This is very well created! Keep it up, you are goals af!

@zfump2132 3 жыл бұрын

The fact that this video doesn’t have more views is a crime

@benzoFE88 11 ай бұрын

This is still one of the best videos ever made

@mtb1392 5 жыл бұрын

Absolutely phenomenal

@TheGreenLanyard 7 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm definitely subscribing so I can see what more you have to say about the details of fundamentals. Keep up the good work!

@marioalvarez4131 5 жыл бұрын

I have never commented on a KZfaq video in 10+ years, but this video was so well made I felt it warranted comment. I'll definitely be returning to this video and plan on spreading it around. I see you haven't uploaded much in the past two years, but I hope to see more from you. Liked and subscribed.

@downair4389 3 жыл бұрын

I dont usually leave comments, but this is one of the best videos I've ever watched on youtube. You probably won't see this but great job.

@DekuTree 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Glad it's still helping people.

@Oydle 7 жыл бұрын

Vagabond :o Very nice work. Particularly impressed by how you animated those manga panels! :O

@theflashgordon193 7 жыл бұрын

thank you this video really improve my game and help me to understand my default (to focus on one option in certain situation). Great video

@ownagemunky 6 жыл бұрын

Damn dude nice video. This is gonna be my new go to example for explaining neutral in any fighting game, i don't even play smash

@planetary-rendez-vous 3 жыл бұрын

Every once in a while I come back to this when thinking about neutral, and its artistic value makes it worth it.

@gain-cs3js 2 ай бұрын

this might be the best tip for smash players of all skill levels, hope you make more videos

@thatfriggindude4725 7 жыл бұрын

I know how hard this shit is to edit. mad respect bro

@ezplays2776 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t play smash but this really helps with neutral in general. Your content is highly underrated I appreciate your hard work.

@firstbones 7 жыл бұрын

what an AMAZING video. great job, loved it a lot.

@aaravnanda7767 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome video,one of the best ever.Really helped.😊

@thegreatace4351 7 жыл бұрын

This production quality is broken Plz don't nerf This was amazing, dude

@fab4kleydestiny892 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing video once again. I like that we have the same references.

@JLWavock 3 жыл бұрын

Super well done and informative!

@latinobacon 6 жыл бұрын

As soon as I heard survival DI I knew a melee clip would be shown lol

@frankiemarando1002 7 жыл бұрын

beautifully crafted video

@ItsPrinceMarcus 7 жыл бұрын

You, my friend, are a video inspiration

@fraudfish 7 жыл бұрын

I saw RIP Sheik players at 150 percent and I paused the video to shed a tear.

@megamatt1915 6 жыл бұрын

Wow. Great video. Extremely helpful.

@cicadawaffle2593 3 жыл бұрын

This is still my favorite smash video. I may or may not be biased with the inclusion of Vagabond content/lessons

@theiswehc2516 7 жыл бұрын

I've subscribed and notified your channel. Looking forward to more videos withing this series!

@jaysee6320 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for making a video on this!

@r12365 10 ай бұрын

I came back to this video because I finally got around to reading Vagabond and "finished" it today, what a godlike manga.

@radiantmach 7 жыл бұрын

Great video, I was sent here because I'm not good with Neutral and a group noticed. I'm starting to attend weeklies now and this helps me with some knowledge of neutral

@radiantmach 7 жыл бұрын

btw thanks for making this video, I hope it will help me improve

@Negurino 7 жыл бұрын

thanks! good information! and awesome video, very clear!

@Phi792 7 жыл бұрын

This Video is Genious :0 I am so amazed and speechless...

@FlyingWithFeathers 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing video again.

@ItzTymeToDul 4 жыл бұрын

Excellent video.

@lk7831 6 жыл бұрын

This video is amazing! Keep it up!

@ahmedvertical8143 7 жыл бұрын

Great video man and i LOVE Vagabond too

@chase_n_ 7 жыл бұрын

Excellent video

@MoluskToeCheese 2 жыл бұрын

lately I've been trying to keep my eye on the opponent, similar to what you mentioned in 9:20. Holy crap, no joke, its quite difficult. For me anyway. Old habits really do die hard

@pizzasauce4638 5 жыл бұрын

Super well done video.

@athena1906 4 жыл бұрын

Could you make more videos like this? It’s been a bit but it was very useful to me and I’m sure many others

@LucasCBC 7 жыл бұрын

Amazing content.

@zandark5045 3 жыл бұрын

Damn, this video is gold

@trivialism6353 Жыл бұрын

I dont even play smash and I got so much out of this video. Thank you (this video is also making me consider melee)

@kabindrapradhan840 7 жыл бұрын

Yay another video!!!!

@canales287 4 жыл бұрын

Good video, Thank you for making

@hermes6683 7 жыл бұрын

Well done. I enjoyed the cinematography and artistic elements to your video. I don't understand why you don't get more views or have more subscribers. Your editing and content is top notch. Maybe do a video that highlights or partners with a top player to leech their fan base? Just a thought

@faraday7879 7 жыл бұрын

Parker Kelly he doesn't have many subs bc he never uploads. Many people don't see his uploads bc he never uploads. I am not criticizing, but it's the truth. His vids don't show up in suggestions as frequently as other

@planetary-rendez-vous 7 жыл бұрын

He has to have more "ads" : let this video be known by posting it on more places, like reddit.

@Patrick-ho3st 7 жыл бұрын

I love how it's U-air > Knee. It's not f-air. It's the knee.

@djsalad5752 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine learning all the complexities of neutral just to lose to a laggy ness main

@mattgarcia1830 7 жыл бұрын

Deserves more views!

Жыл бұрын

2:08 Holy shit, I thought I was safe to advance into your patient play, and then you stick out the "the thing I just said is good" and smoked me. Confirmed straight into the "and thus I segue into the next section" for 40% of my life bar. I have to respect that option in future, you're clearly willing to stick out some big buttons

@cloudgalaxy9231 5 жыл бұрын

This was amazing! What took me so long to find this gold?

@pershado 7 жыл бұрын

Can't stress the importance of adaptation enough. I often find myself and others looking for a set way to handle a match up as opposed to having a base idea and expanding upon that base as a match goes on, allowing you to learn your opponent as opposed to just the character.

@Nicolassssdas 7 жыл бұрын

Your videos are great!!!

@pixreviews6417 7 жыл бұрын

This is amazing.

@TheRyano4ever 6 жыл бұрын

What do i have to type in the find the kind of music played at the start of this video?

@Vossajex 7 жыл бұрын

FANTASTIC VIDEO! informative, easy to follow, great production - I loved the japanese art style and custom graphics. BALANCE YOUR AUDIO LEVELS THOUGH. Sometimes I can barely hear your voice, sometimes you blow out my speakers

@DekuTree 7 жыл бұрын

Yea this is an issue, gonna be on top of mixing going forward.