​@@harrisonwhaley7872bro who cares you know what he meant

Like MGS?

That would be better than a stupid ass basic srpg

Because turning a turn based JRPG into stealth game wouldn't work, while also keeping the RPG part in the game. I mean, look how people were dissapointed with Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Vallhalla, when AC was mainly a stealth based game franchise and it was turned into a stealth game with heavy RPG mechanics and became a loot grinder to keep up with high level enemies.

@@dragon387ify Lmfao where's the "RPG" in the dancing games? In Arena? Those Ass Creed games aren't spinoffs and were mainline titles, that's why people found it annoying there. These Persona spinoffs make themselves known as spinoffs first and foremost. Not a similar situation at all.

It just depends on where in the timeline we are since this take place just before the end of royal technically after the 14/2 but as you guest before Strikers

Sophie and Zenkichi got sent to the shadow realm with the arena characters to make room for akechi and kasumi

Tactica takes place between the end of Royal and Strikers. Specificly late Febuary 2017 right before Joker turns himself in, while Strikers takes place in Summer 2017 after Joker is let out of juvie and cleared of all charges and the phantom thieves celebrate with a road trip across Japan.

@@truepowersichigo1952as you guest

strikers isnt canon @@truepowersichigo1952

Atlus knows how to develope their chars lol

Nah bro you can’t just stop there bro who’s the favorite

Gotta make up from her lack of time in the main game, right?

Yeah, with the way they forced Kasumi in Royal, it makes me wish Atlus had at least introduced her earlier in the story like how the characters meet Makoto long before she actually gets involved with her arch. Maybe if we ever get a FeMC Persona 5 remake. Anyways Haru had such a great wedding fantasy in this game with a cute ponytail look that I’m gonna romance her next Royal run.

I especially liked the one optional convo where she talks about her history with axes. Iirc that was never mentioned anywhere else and fleshes her character design out very well.

It's sad that most people don't get the reference since it's a pretty big moment in Japan's history, but so obscure in most media especially in anime. It shows that even modern Japan do have their own turbulence through out time.

@@poloecraziethey kinda should’ve more outright said it in the game if it was that

Doesn't the Anime Hyouka talk a lot of about that? I found it pretty fascinating!

Since P5T is set in 2017, wouldn’t that predate Toshiro’s time in school by a lot? If he is in his early 30s/late 20s, he would have been in highschool in the 2000s.

​@@poloecrazie Probably something to do with portraying a leftist revolution as positive. Not a narrative that flies most places, unfortunately.

I think it's because of timeline and narrative consistency. Development and release timing is another factor of the characters placement in the spin offs. Taking into account Atlus tendency to connect narratives/timelines, it's likely the next spin off continuation story, timeline wise after Strikers will have everyone from the P5 generation together. Considering Erina and Toshiro's relationship, it can be assumed they share the same Arcana category as Maruki and Zenkichi, which leaves 1 more red hair woman, under the same Arcana category as Sumi and Sophia in future stories

Because, and I shit you not: "We wanted to leave Akechi's fate up to the players. We know it might be controversial, but having it be determined by how much investment the player spends with him was eventually what we went with." Aka, he stays dead if you don't care, he lives if you do. It's part of the interviews in the recently released P5 Royal Artbook. So because of that, he's now permanently pigeon-holed into Princekechi to keep that consistent. As for Kasumi... They didn't say much about her beyond character design, but presumably it's just to keep people spoiler-free. Yet another unfortunate pigeon-hole. It's especially noticeable how sucky this is in the DLC, since they both have plenty to relate to with Guernica, but aren't given ANY opportunity to be fleshed out through her.

I like this style more than Xcom. I couldn’t get into the managing of the soldiers. It felt like it would get to be very tedious

Persona 5 also showed how adults can be cool too with several of the confidants.

@@UncannyEXP yeah, you're right, you have to go out of your way to get those confidants but the message is definitely there

@@Forever_ZeroI mean compared to P4 and P3, you don’t have to go that much out of your way. HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU LITERALLY MISS KANJI? Why do I need to jump through hoops to hang out with my boy?

@@Forever_Zeronot really, Sae and Sojiro just naturally turn out that way as the story goes. They even say its okay to leave it to the adults

@@goroadachi9489facts he was one of my favorite characters but i could only get him to rank 4 by the end of the game

How was it man? I just finished my playthrough

it was really good!@@OurLance

@@OurLance really fucking good, doing a merciless playthrough in NG+

Keep in mind Atlus will connect everything in the next spin off, narrative and timeline wise, after Strikers, with Royal having more relevancy. This also happened in Arena Ultimax and Dancing All Night, which closes off Persona 4 generation proper. However, Atlus P-Studio was behind schedule due to COVID and shift in the development crew with Wada as the new director after Hashino.

I kinda hated how the whole cast hates toshiro pretty randomly for the first chunk of the game. It's always felt so unnecessary and makes everyone really annoying when every other line is "oh man fuck toshiro by the way"

@@hunbi1875 I mean I guess I can kind of see why they didn't like him at first. He's a politician, first of all, and they don't exactly have the best track record with politicians. And he always kinda acted like he knew what was best and right and "just" when really he had no idea what he was talking about. Thankfully it doesn't stick around too long; I feel like once they entered Marie's castle they gave him a break, so it didn't overstay its welcome.

I've never played a Tactical RPG before this, and the difficulty settings can be adjusted at any time to find your comfort zone. I had virtually no trouble unless I intentionally made things difficult for myself for the sake of one achivement

I wouldnt say the art style grew on me but i did get used to it. Its just the facial expressions that i really like

The DLC actually does this little thing where the characters reveal things ahead of when it happens in Royal and then there’s a memory wipe at the end. So it’s not really an update, more like extending the Royal trio experience around the time of the Casino palace. If you think about the timeline too hard it gets confusing and there’s no new info about them, just more character depth through dialogue to have them react to the DLC story.

It would not made sense why zenkichi would be there since it happens before strikers

Meh. Last boss is another god. It's getting repetitive. They are teens for crying out loud. It's so over the top to let them fight gods.

@@rhovenom04 Hi, Welcome to the Persona franchise where teens have been facing down gods since the first game on the PS1 back in the 1990s

@@rhovenom04fighting god is like fighting dragons in Fire emblem, it kinda has to happen at this point but at least persona wise gives the gods a big reason pertaining to the morale of the story where as in Fire emblem they may be an antag but that’s really all

You're thinking of Resonance of Fate, awesome game

Resonance of fate

Resonance of Fate?

👏YES

There's a help menu that tells you everything you need. Despair steals enemy movement. They have less movement in their next turn, and if you got a One More, your next movement is increased by 1 per despair victim.

It is on sale right now for $16. Do you think that that is a reasonable price for the DLC? I have no interest in the picardo persona or guns DLC.

@knightshade2654 If you really want to have it go for it.

It's certainly a solid 40 hour game start to finish not including the DLC content

It really feels like a gamepass focused kinda price point

I believe hard gives the enemy 50% more attack and merciless that + 50% more hp.

While I haven't played Repaint Your Heart yet, honestly, I thought the characters were the best they've been since their P5 debuts. Late-game P5 and Strikers started streamlining everyone's personalities so much, like Ryuji almost always being the idiot of the group or Morgana almost always being an Ann simp. In the case of Strikers, there was an attempt at having the Thieves be able to talk to others going through problems reminiscent of their trauma but there are multiple opportunities not taken up at all, such as Futaba with Akane and her mother or Ryuji with Konoe and his father. Each thief in Tactica gets a moment to be able to relate to Toshiro and they finally toned down the overused tropes of Ryuji being made completely stupid, Morgana being entirely an Ann simp, Makoto always being the temperamental strategist; they aren't entirely removed but they're far less overdone and in some cases done better, like Ryuji not understanding something entirely but he asks about it and the gang doesn't berate him for it, unlike Strikers. In his case, he finally feels more like how he was during the Kamoshida arc again. Should this have been a P5 spin off? Maybe not considering the poor release timing, but I feel like they put a lot more heart into this.

@@GamingPerson-yu4yeI agree, the PT were handled extremely well in P5T

>implying characters were great in P5

⁠@@lemonov3031 The party ebbed and flowed in P5. Morgana is not that bad but is hampered by being attracted to you for virtually the entire game. People misunderstand the reason he ran away, but he still cucked Haru out of her arc and always through out some poor dialog to the final bosses. Ryuji actually had development throughout the entire game, and, despite how stupid he is, he was endearing to me. The late game and Strikers reduced his character to a hothead who loves eating, but I thought that his consistent support of Toshiro was great. Ann… amazing during the Kamoshido arc, great during the Madarame arc, forgotten after that. Strikers have her a bit more character but only at the beginning. Poor girl. Yusuke quickly became coming relief after Madarame arc, and he is consistent if nothing else. I like him but can see why many are frustrated by him. Makoto’s introduction really introduced a turning point for how the PT functions, with everyone else suddenly becoming dumber. She is not badly written, but the writing that surrounds her is. She also suffers badly from spin-off flanderization (scary and scared of ghosts) Futaba is a love-or-hate character, for she becomes the “gamer gremlin” pretty quickly and has remained as such through the main game and spin-offs. Haru is a joke in the main game and only became more of a character in the spin-offs. She is perhaps the only Persona character who is more developed in spin-offs than her base game. tl;dr Most of the PTs are fine in P5, albeit with some heavy issue.

@@knightshade2654 Well those heavy issues are what ruins it for me. Plus, I can never forget that Ann is Ginko but worse in every way and Futaba is just a coomer oriented Baofu.

Well pals technically it could be the next spinoff since p5 as already have PQ2 P5R P5S P5T so next could possibly be P5U for ultimax or ultimate

There’s still the chance that we could get another Arena game, it just depends on Arc System Works. As they’ve been very busy in recent years.

​@@J2ojuiced95 another thing to point out the spin-offs genre depends on the narrative direction of the story. The fighting game genre in P4 Arena is due to the 2 new P3 gen related characters, Labrys and Sho's background as experimental subjects, with one of the tests is fight till death. The TV World; one of the sections of the collective cognition materialize that dark thoughts into an Arena format. Atlus needs to make a specific spin off genre not out of a whim or fans request, but valid narrative reasons. The warriors style works well in Persona to some extent as it's more of a representation of how all Persons teams fight in actual combat, seen more in the anime. For Tactica, it's more on the use of strategies for victory, as seen with Toshiro mostly leading/strategizing for the Phantom Thieves and Rebel Corps into victory.

6 months later but yea, kind of. At least on Playstation, certain games can block gameplay recording to prevent spoilers or whatever. I usually only see em on Atlas games though.

Just level them up and fuse other personas

Arcana was replaced with status types in this game. The types do not affect gameplay other than sharing a common theme (warrior figures, malevolent figures, etc), but even that is changed to accommodate certain skills.

I prefer lots of dialogue to gameplay, especially when the gameplay is frustrating. Visual novels are awesome.

@@KrimsonKattYT especially with the animation. Mappa KNOWS how to animate p5

@@inviz1440 Yeah Mappa is amazing. Too bad they didn't do the ACTUAL Persona 5 anime. The dub was really well done and funny similar to the Persona 4 anime dub, but other than that it was just awful. So! Many! Animation! Errors! The studio that made P5A must be the most inconsistent anime studio ever. On one hand they made SAO, a terrible show with suprisingly beautiful animation. (and music. And character designs) On the other they made Seven Deadly Sins seasons 3&4 and Persona 5 the Animation, some of the ugliest 2D anime ever, and I don't want to BEGIN talking about the 3D ones like EX Arm or Berserk 2016 or weird hybrids like Master of Ragnarok or that awful V-Tuber anime. And don't forget the... GASP! Slideshow and mo-capped anime! Naria Girls still gives me PTSD with how negative budget God awful that show was. And then we get stuff like Godless Reincarnation, a shitpost of an anime that goes from god-tier "100% Deku VS Overhaul" animation quality to intentionally bad, horrifically bad animation like the PS1 model CGI monster or GOSH DANG LIVE ACTION STOCK FOOTAGE WITH AN ANIME AI FILTER or lazy pixel art.

@@KrimsonKattYT Please don't remind me of the garbage p5 anime LOL. It was terrible. I think they need to shut down there studio as a whole

It sells worse than Soul Hackers 2 (in Japan).. Only Tokyo Mirage Sessions did worse. In West this game is also not big seller, like Strikers, or even Q games.