Ashes Of Creation Changed MMOs Forever

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20 күн бұрын

Ashes Of Creation just premiered their new server meshing and networking technology advances that will help large scale combat and performance. What does this mean for the MMORPG genre going forward?
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@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
We won’t discuss the channel members going crazy at the end lol Live on Twitch: twitch.tv/nycegamingtv Discord: discord.gg/EsfdACR7J9 Ashes Of Creation Voices Of Verra Discord: discord.gg/tNHaDmqgTz
@WildFyreAshes
@WildFyreAshes 18 күн бұрын
I'm literally here for that 😂
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@WildFyreAshes u went crazy there at the end. Surely it wasn’t the fault of my editing 😏
@iclethian
@iclethian 19 күн бұрын
"Unreal Engine 5 is a single-threaded engine and it's basically impossible to implement multi-threading. So we did it anyway" He was so excited to show off their breakthrough he was practically giggling
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
@@iclethian lol “look what I made dad” vibe but cool
@philwaugh9095
@philwaugh9095 19 күн бұрын
Even Margaret called him out for stealing the announcement thunder because he just couldn't hold it in. I love it when he says "oh and on a side note" then proceeds to drop a hype bomb announcement 😂😂😂😂
@benharris144
@benharris144 18 күн бұрын
Really weird to take, word for word, comments from elsewhere and paste it all over.
@iclethian
@iclethian 18 күн бұрын
@@benharris144 If youre referring the reddit post, that was also me lmao. Felt relevant here too
@vexillian
@vexillian 19 күн бұрын
We knew the amount of effort they were putting into Ashes was going to be immense, but the fact that they've gone THIS far into reworking server handling and networking is the kind of level of effort that makes me even more excited for it. You don't put THIS much effort into something and allow it to fail. When you put this much effort into a project, it usually doesn't fail. Groundbreaking work that Intrepid can be proud of. Love to see it.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
@@vexillian 👏 well said. There could be something eventually with some specific system intrepid ends up not accomplishing, but to watch the journey and see the effort lets you know the kind of team they have
@TheCopiumClinic
@TheCopiumClinic 18 күн бұрын
I can tell you watched this stream through the lens of big battles and I freaking love it. Great video!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@TheCopiumClinic yessir! Thanks. I was just like “ok but how does this affect me and large scale battles” lol
@philwaugh9095
@philwaugh9095 19 күн бұрын
Sooo much good info along with some important announcements...I loved this stream so much.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
@@philwaugh9095 you can tell they were soo proud
@OsirisTheWeary
@OsirisTheWeary 18 күн бұрын
Nyce! Thank you for making this video. I was traveling during the live stream and this was the perfect length of time to sneak away and get caught up. A2 baby!!!!!!!!!! See you in Verra
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@OsirisTheWeary ayyye thanks for watching 🫡 A2 sooooon!
@ABadmanC
@ABadmanC 16 күн бұрын
in darkfall online ppl worked out how the database saved and exploited it by forcing the server to crash through glitch and hack
@HiYurd
@HiYurd 17 күн бұрын
Good summary. Thanks Nyce.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@HiYurd thanks 🫡
@sticqeno288
@sticqeno288 19 күн бұрын
They keep outdoing themselves. Amazing showcase.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
@@sticqeno288 indeed!
@WildFyreAshes
@WildFyreAshes 18 күн бұрын
@sticqeno288 you're just pumped for your alliance/bard... we get it 😂 (not letting it down bruh)
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@WildFyreAshes stic an actual bard so we know he bout to be hype lol
@WildFyreAshes
@WildFyreAshes 18 күн бұрын
@Nyce-Gaming right!! He already dropped his album buffs... so... as I rogue I just have to monitor which track he about to spit before his drum kicks...ain't no1 got time for lifesteals n shiii 🤭
@charleswalker5849
@charleswalker5849 17 күн бұрын
I like watching your videos your straight to the point I'm glad there shop will be open again now I have a pc il finally be able to play aoc even if it's alpha lol so they implementing server meshing just like dune awakening that's cool and they better have live service if game is subscription hahaha always a pleasure gg
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@charleswalker5849 appreciate that! I’m glad to see more people get an opportunity to join a2!
@itsdibbles
@itsdibbles 17 күн бұрын
Be interesting if their version or star citizens version of meshing completes first lol
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@itsdibbles yea lol
@UniDeathRaven
@UniDeathRaven 17 күн бұрын
game looks and plays phenomenal. Finally worthy mmorpg.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@UniDeathRaven we’ve been waiting for something like this!
@matthopkins1107
@matthopkins1107 18 күн бұрын
Well I’m kinda over new world and fully gave up. Want to get into a new mmo, I’m going back on your videos but I’m assuming this is a game to buy or should I wait? I caught the end of the stream lastnight
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@matthopkins1107 so on release it will be subscription based just $15 a month. Luckily enough for your timing they just announced that they will be reopening a2 key sales soon ! My referral link in the description 😏
@matthopkins1107
@matthopkins1107 18 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming I got you on the referral link I been following you since new world then tank tank spear builds. I actually been running your healer build flail life staff build extremely fun
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@matthopkins1107 thanks man. Yea even the healer spec was fun! Hoping to do similar tanky damage specs in aoc!
@matthopkins1107
@matthopkins1107 17 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming I’ll be here to watch have a safe 4th
@machoalright
@machoalright 18 күн бұрын
sounds like what star citizen does.
@ZeJuank
@ZeJuank 18 күн бұрын
yes, even almost all the terminology is the same
@machoalright
@machoalright 18 күн бұрын
@@ZeJuank nevertheless, its great more people are getting into this tech.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@machoalright yea star citizen has been popular for utilizing similar tech. I think a couple in the industry has, but apparently aoc is taking it to another level
@TFTrickster
@TFTrickster 17 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaminghow is aoc taking it to another level compared to what SC is going
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@TFTrickster they just uploaded a one hour stream detailing this. You can find the link to their channel in the description. It’s a lot of innovation on top of the tech star citizen is trying to do as well as others in the industry
@Penumbra-AoC
@Penumbra-AoC 18 күн бұрын
Shol's Eye.. Shol is the God of Truth in Verra.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
😯 oh wow ! I didn’t make that connection
@titigomeza3515
@titigomeza3515 14 күн бұрын
Is this for console?
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 14 күн бұрын
@@titigomeza3515 it is not unfortunately
@auroraboracat26
@auroraboracat26 16 күн бұрын
While groundbreaking it sounds too good to be true. As with all things new it will be open to exploits and the consequences won’t be seen until later.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 15 күн бұрын
@@auroraboracat26 yea I’m thinking they have people dedicated to prevent that kind of stuff. Luckily tho there’s a long alpha to try and solve for any vulnerabilities
@lawrencecarter5522
@lawrencecarter5522 12 күн бұрын
Can you stream pirate101 is free for 1 week
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 12 күн бұрын
@@lawrencecarter5522 👀 I haven’t heard of it. Will look it up
@lawrencecarter5522
@lawrencecarter5522 12 күн бұрын
Ok
@lawrencecarter5522
@lawrencecarter5522 8 күн бұрын
Pirate101 is on steam it's an adventure game
@WTFrick
@WTFrick 17 күн бұрын
This game just will NEVER come out, like star citizen. Till the producers are earning enough money from donations, development will never end. This is the best example, why we need Investors and CEOs to get the shit done......
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@WTFrick investors and ceos have gotten us the games we complain about that get rushed out to meet some quarterly deadline and are ruined via monetization to optimize shareholder profits
@WTFrick
@WTFrick 17 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming exactly that's why we invented fundraises......and now the games never come out 🤣👍
@jdawg3169
@jdawg3169 16 күн бұрын
​@@WTFrick Yeah we need more great companies like Microsoft to release awesome games and buy up all the trash out there and close it down. You are 100% correct that indie studios don't do anything.
@WTFrick
@WTFrick 16 күн бұрын
@@jdawg3169 i didn't say or ment it that way. Personally i think the healthy in between is the best place for a game developer. Small studios and responsible guide chains to get the shit done. Otherwise you get a broken game or the neverending story
@ABadmanC
@ABadmanC 16 күн бұрын
ppl will crack it so soon and dupe the proxy by connection exploits over and over
@ABadmanC
@ABadmanC 16 күн бұрын
the more technology the server got the more it will be exploited
@fana9863
@fana9863 18 күн бұрын
I think this is a huge red flag. This presentation means that they were previously using the default replication mechanism in unreal engine, which was designed for an ego shooter (unreal tournament) and were expecting to scale a normal multiplayer game to the size of an mmo. These replication issues are unique to unreal engine, because it wasn't designed to have a massive amount of players. These new features should have been the first things that should have been developed to even consider unreal as a valid solution to create a mmo. These new features are good, but they fix unreal engine specific problems and don't change MMOs Forever, because other MMOs don't use unreal engine.
@Nevoras
@Nevoras 18 күн бұрын
Its allways the same.. An Engine is not a fixxed thing you know ? initially yes the Engine can do some stuff wich it is programmed to do some better some worse some not at all but in Developement most Engines get changed to the needs of the respective Games. Just a quick look to Star Citizen should be enough to explain that, their Star Engine is way more Capable now than the original Engine ever was for those specific things even not beeing able to do much of it. Same is happening with Ashes and every other Big Developers especially when there are systems wich where not there before since they needed to modify the Engines and Server Tech to appoint for these new Features. // Server Meshing is a relatively new tech for Games and still not working its kinda in developement this very moment so saying this is the first thing they should have done is just stupid cause wolrd building classes quests ingame systems all is doable and all that is worked on. Implimenting dynamic Server Meshing may be a big step but once the structure of all the stuff wich needs it is done its fine. All what really needs to be added there is the actual player interactions with eachother and the world aka npc's enemies, ressources and evnviromental stuff like interacting with rocks doors etc. All other static stuff most likely is pretty easy and does not need any Server meshing at all cause there is no interaction at all and all client side. Player placed stuff of course will be added. (at least thats my thinking behind all that) If at all its a green flag cause now the Game has tech behind wich can make massive Battles possible without any lag. And every real mmo player knows all those mass player battles on battleground event like stuff where there is just a big chaos going on and you do notice all the micro lags but its so much that its just the normal gameplay in a big battle.. it will be crazy to first time have such battles completely fluid i could imagine it like the jump from 30 to 60fps maybe ^^. Also do not forget the NPC's they litterally could spawn a whole army of npc enemys and let them wander to a city raid - servers would split the load each handling a few hundreds and it could litterally be a massive battle without any lag, at least serverside. (Client's Pc configuration is another thing with internet connection then the only limiting factors. Edit: I need to add to that last sentence that Server Lag is an issue too but even the shadow lag from lets say for example Planetside 2 wich has some very strong ghosting sometimes is just fine cause we will play a mmo and not a shooter. Also that game is very old and i guess the lag would be a good bit reduced maybe not even feelable if the meshing is done right nowadays since you will allways or mostly only be connected to 1 server at a time with good latency cause loads would dynamicaly change so yeah there should be less lag overall in that regard vs a server nowadays handling too much at the same time even sometimes crashing the whole gameserver cause in a battle where too much players and i expierienced that many many times waiting in a Serverlist for it to reappar and join back with all hundreds of players just to get back into the lagfest fight till it ends. xD it was a good time ~ (example from Archeage back then)
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@fana9863 it’s not necessarily a red flag. They switched from ue4 a while ago and knew / came to realize a long time ago that ue5 couldn’t at its base maintain a mmo at this scale so they’ve been working on custom ue5 tools for a long time. There’s actually a couple of MMOs attempting to work or already working in ue5. However they utilize more traditional methods to combat limitations of ue5 such as sharding
@Nevoras
@Nevoras 18 күн бұрын
I need to add anothher thing i just rewatched the livestream and Steven in fact says that they where working on Server Meshing for years now and that It is in the Game, how finished it is i dont know but we will see (alpha 2 is around the corner) ^^
@fana9863
@fana9863 18 күн бұрын
@@Nevoras I use unreal engine 5 for a small multiplayer test project. Your statements are way too general, so it seems to me that you never touched the engine and just repeat talking points that you picked up.
@Nevoras
@Nevoras 18 күн бұрын
​ @fana9863 in fact i never touched unreal engine 5 to be fair. Also i try to be general cause most people have no deep insight into server architecture databases and engines at all wich seems not the case for you. Despise that my points stand. Also as i just confirmed they seem to be working on it for a longer while now and not just started wich should kinda elevate your red flag to at least a yellow. Also while you state that the replication issues are unique to unreal other engines have not really delved into the server meshing too so they will have kinda the same problems while layering and sharding is quite known nowadays. In the end i think its just a factor of time like it allways was with some newer approaches to solve problems and i think the recent server Meshing approaches for games like Ashes and Star Citizen are quite a good start.
@ravelgrosser-arat9492
@ravelgrosser-arat9492 15 күн бұрын
Great! Now go away from tab-targeting and we will have good game!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 15 күн бұрын
@@ravelgrosser-arat9492 they won’t unfortunately, but honestly their ‘hybrid’ combat especially for melee is looking very action oriented. I did a video showing it or u can peep their fighter showcase
@Pastrahmy
@Pastrahmy 18 күн бұрын
Cool to see, but they need to get it done fast. Mark my words, they're going to announce WoW 2 at next blizzcon, and all these "wow killers" are going to be doa.
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@Pastrahmy 20 years in and constant constant releases. I just imagine just continuing WoW would be more profitable. But man if they do announce it and in a new engine 👀
@Nobody-dc8dp
@Nobody-dc8dp 17 күн бұрын
Blizzard can't even remake classic good. No push for Wpvp and the same thing they've always done. Push more dungeons, raids, and BGs that aren't even needed.
@Pastrahmy
@Pastrahmy 17 күн бұрын
@Nobody-dc8dp Exactly. They aren't working on classic. They have a bare bones team squeezing the rest of the juice from that fruit while the majority works on something bigger. I believe the trilogy of expansions they announced will end the current azeroth and set the stage for a new journey.
@CasabianN-xr5sc
@CasabianN-xr5sc 18 күн бұрын
Never doubted they are tech wizards. The only thing they suck at is art direction and design. Especially when it comes to armor...
@boredfangerrude8759
@boredfangerrude8759 19 күн бұрын
TBH, I'm mixed about this. Anyways, good video!
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 19 күн бұрын
@@boredfangerrude8759 thank you!
@samtarioss
@samtarioss 18 күн бұрын
how long will we wait ffs..game looks like its freaking years from finishing also graphics looks ugly and outdated
@pogo6543211111111
@pogo6543211111111 18 күн бұрын
i think we have not seen the finished lighting which affects everything you see.
@AleksiJuvakka
@AleksiJuvakka 18 күн бұрын
I can taste the entitlement, MMOs really bring out the worst degens of society
@samtarioss
@samtarioss 18 күн бұрын
@@pogo6543211111111 i hope so
@samtarioss
@samtarioss 18 күн бұрын
@@AleksiJuvakka mmos dont bring anything since no one is making them now..
@AleksiJuvakka
@AleksiJuvakka 18 күн бұрын
@@samtarioss Then how am I and thousands of others playing a new MMO PaxDei that released in June. Can't wait for you to explain how it achhhually not an MMO and the only real MMO is classic WoW or something
@666khaleck
@666khaleck 18 күн бұрын
we will see when it released in maybe 10 years , if it even gets released .keep paying your massive amounts of money for beta,alpha etc.
@pogo6543211111111
@pogo6543211111111 18 күн бұрын
those come with game time, we just paying money we'd pay anyways. i'm sorry you broke but you dont need to be angry at those who arn't.
@666khaleck
@666khaleck 18 күн бұрын
@@pogo6543211111111 whos says im broke or angry !!!! im not paying £250 for an early access beta , for a game that may well be terrible , we dont know . how many so called wow killer mmo, die a death in a month . ill wait and see closer to release before i buy anything on this game.
@AleksiJuvakka
@AleksiJuvakka 18 күн бұрын
​@@666khaleckPlease do us all a favor and don't buy it
@yeahhsp
@yeahhsp 18 күн бұрын
@666khaleck Cope harder kiddo
@666khaleck
@666khaleck 18 күн бұрын
@@AleksiJuvakka ill do whatever i want , not what you want or tell me to do.
@user-ov5rb7hn4p
@user-ov5rb7hn4p 18 күн бұрын
Game not even close to be playable. Wait another 10 years. Just another Kickstarter scam
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@user-ov5rb7hn4p it’s being played right now. And a2 is within 3 months
@user-ov5rb7hn4p
@user-ov5rb7hn4p 18 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming being played by who?
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 18 күн бұрын
@@user-ov5rb7hn4p PI players. Soon will be testers whom had a1 access as well. Then rest by/in September . I get its taken a while, and despite reasons/excuses for that, I think we’re all wanting a good mmo right? I personally haven’t gotten any scam vibes especially with this latest showcase. If it’s a scam with 200 employees then it’s the worst scam I’ve seen tbh
@user-ov5rb7hn4p
@user-ov5rb7hn4p 18 күн бұрын
@@Nyce-Gaming did anyone played this? A real person, who didn't spent a ton of money? Who exactly is playing on all these tests? Haven't seen anyone online who actually played this. So yeah, this is a scam
@allthatishere
@allthatishere 17 күн бұрын
You sound like someone who can't be reasoned with. lol
@Erumyr
@Erumyr 17 күн бұрын
Until The game is out they havent changed shit, 10 years in progress lol. 1/7 of a lifetime not done yet with a little pixel game
@Nyce-Gaming
@Nyce-Gaming 17 күн бұрын
@@Erumyr I don’t think it’s been 10 years 🤔
@benstephens187
@benstephens187 16 күн бұрын
Sheesh man, you sound fun to be around
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