Obliterator Surprise! | Against the Odds

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What are the odds of making our opponent sac all their permanents by putting a Phyrexian Obliterator into play at instant speed with Smuggler's Surprise in Standard? Let's find out!
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@jakedoe698
@jakedoe698 24 күн бұрын
'Obliterator Surprise' Opponent: Surprise! I can't read!
@KaladinStormBlessed190
@KaladinStormBlessed190 24 күн бұрын
loool today i won a match with obliterator and because my opponent didn't read it, he cast a red spell to do 5 damage to the obliterator, he could just sacrifice lands and I'm pretty sure he could win anyway but for some reason(clearly he didn't read) he sacrificed all his criatures and i ended winning because of that xD
@ab14967
@ab14967 24 күн бұрын
Genuinely, it might be because said opponent thought the triggers would only start AFTER both attacks went through, which would mean that Saffron would have had to block with both to not die. It still would have been difficult to win even with that assumption, but it would have meant there could have been a chance for him to get back into the game if Saffron wasn't able to find enough to create a fast clock.
@david_n_nettey
@david_n_nettey 24 күн бұрын
First time I've been able to see the video before the official thumbnail
@TheSnaare
@TheSnaare 24 күн бұрын
If you look at most channels they will cycle the thumbnail to three or four different ones and look at the metrics to see what's getting the most hits and then leave that thumbnail up.
@DimT670
@DimT670 24 күн бұрын
Same its a treat
@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124
@SuPeRHeRoDuDe3124 20 күн бұрын
Testicle
@dorgfanger
@dorgfanger 24 күн бұрын
“2024 Magic is just ‘how can I snowball?’” - asks Seth, as he’s making more snowballs for his pile of snowball brews
@epothos1
@epothos1 24 күн бұрын
“It’s just silly fun”, said the saffronolive unconvincingly. As he packed his snow around sharp rocks continuing his creation of snowballs.
@SonnigesDeutschland
@SonnigesDeutschland 24 күн бұрын
I have played against a mythic orange Wizards employee. In the loading screen they write "Make sure to say hi!", so I emoted "hello". They didn't respond and went on to beat me brutally. In my 15 years of Magic, it was the only moment of Wizards being honest to me.
@crapparc
@crapparc 23 күн бұрын
It would have been realistic if you'd been in a paid event.
@SonnigesDeutschland
@SonnigesDeutschland 23 күн бұрын
@@crapparc It was Premiere Draft, so kinda paid.
@crapparc
@crapparc 23 күн бұрын
@@SonnigesDeutschland Real magic then. :(
@danielquigley2695
@danielquigley2695 20 күн бұрын
😂❤🎉
@TheSeattle6
@TheSeattle6 24 күн бұрын
6:21 Necro-*what now Seth*
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss 24 күн бұрын
Seth… you’re not a Graveyard Trespasser, are you?
@Jethro_Wilkins
@Jethro_Wilkins 24 күн бұрын
Seth down-bad for the undead, apparently
@andrewblackwell6054
@andrewblackwell6054 24 күн бұрын
I thought he was saying necrophecy which would be an awesome name for a card
@laurentrobitaille2204
@laurentrobitaille2204 24 күн бұрын
What can I say? No one can resist some juicy and oily Phyrexussy.
@ConManAU
@ConManAU 24 күн бұрын
It’s like listening to Homer Simpson try to say trampoline.
@dogninja8
@dogninja8 23 күн бұрын
Wait, he isn't dead, Smuggler's Surprise! Obliterator in hand, and death in his eyes!
@superspen97
@superspen97 24 күн бұрын
Ah yes, a way to get around the "downside" of your opponent not attacking into or blocking your 5/5
@dutt6222
@dutt6222 24 күн бұрын
I know it seems crazy, but a 4 mana 5/5 with unblockable is actually not that good in modern magic.
@reyntime8735
@reyntime8735 24 күн бұрын
@@dutt6222especially one that requires 4 pips, which was an issue a few times in this video
@evanreign9344
@evanreign9344 24 күн бұрын
Yeah in my experience obliterator might as well have defender unless it's opponent is so ahead on board that it's effective a win more card.
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 24 күн бұрын
Vigilence has entered the chat. Not sure what would be the best card to give it in 60 card formats but its funny in edh.
@thejuggernautofspades9453
@thejuggernautofspades9453 23 күн бұрын
Fight spells force opponents dmg the obliterater Ez counter
@TheyCallMeDio
@TheyCallMeDio 24 күн бұрын
The opponent who sac'd their own board is the true definition of "reading the card explains the card"
@Atmapalazzo
@Atmapalazzo 24 күн бұрын
Seth was surprised that virtuoso doesn't see more play. Then he remembered that he sided in 7 additional removal spells like most midrange decks in standard.
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss 24 күн бұрын
42:37 Seth asks the Magic Gods for Removal. They grant his wish. He didn’t think through his wish very thoroughly. Seth concedes.
@daemonstail9226
@daemonstail9226 21 күн бұрын
The monkeys paw curls its finger.
@MegaKazbar
@MegaKazbar 24 күн бұрын
"If our opponent was alive" Seth, he just disconnected. He didn't have a heart attack 😂
@boochin
@boochin 16 күн бұрын
Maybe. You never know.
@EricTangy
@EricTangy 24 күн бұрын
“Necropussy” - Seth
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 23 күн бұрын
This series is always such a fun reminder that Magic can be about more than just wins and losses.
@chrisbonjour111
@chrisbonjour111 24 күн бұрын
Lookout is the sneaky MVP. That crime ramp is so nuts.
@dallinhilton3189
@dallinhilton3189 24 күн бұрын
30:50 shoulda been a sports announcer Seth 😂
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 23 күн бұрын
Gooooooal.
@zaksaturday1693
@zaksaturday1693 24 күн бұрын
I love you Seth, it is NECROPSY, there's NEH-CROP-SEE
@apeirotopecrow7957
@apeirotopecrow7957 24 күн бұрын
Necropssy
@basilefff
@basilefff 24 күн бұрын
Actually, smuggler's surprise lets you hexproof and inderstructible your creatures, so if you have enough mana you don't care about removal
@GigaBoost
@GigaBoost 22 күн бұрын
Pronouncing Necropsy (like... Necro Autopsy) like "Necropussy" sure is a choice. And I'm here for it.
@someguy1ification
@someguy1ification 20 күн бұрын
And he says it over, and over, and over lol
@lucasdunk2536
@lucasdunk2536 24 күн бұрын
HEY! That’s me in the last one, Dragon16 So mad I got mana screwed, iirc I muliganned a 1 land hand into a 0 land hand… my deck had a lot of crazy I’m sad I didn’t get to show off. Was a sucky loss, but GG’s, hope to encounter you on ladder again in the future
@connormohs6046
@connormohs6046 24 күн бұрын
Is the Huatli exclusively for finding Etali? Lol
@lucasdunk2536
@lucasdunk2536 24 күн бұрын
@@connormohs6046 partially that, she can also find Kogla and Yidaro as well also just another ETB legend for AJU and Elesh Norn, and helps me find me lands, she’s just a single copy in my deck Opponent has to deal with it before I transform it, funny most people expect you to just transform her ASAP and hold up mana to remove her, but If I can I’ll just drop her and then sit with her on field until I have a possible opportunity to transform her
@uglyaniimals
@uglyaniimals 17 күн бұрын
so like. what IS your deck ? i'm super curious haha it looks fun to play
@diegoramos7494
@diegoramos7494 24 күн бұрын
30:54 bro is sounding like a Mexican commentator for Futbal 😭
@MTG_Ronin
@MTG_Ronin 24 күн бұрын
I play an Abzan Meme deck in Timeless I call “Domestic Dispute”. It’s Obliterators and Vindicators with a bunch of fight spells, etc. You would not believe how many people will swing into me then scoop once the trigger hits and they realize what they did 🤣
@thejuggernautofspades9453
@thejuggernautofspades9453 23 күн бұрын
Ahhahahah love the fight spells
@bobzour
@bobzour 24 күн бұрын
And for the record, Seth did play against WotC staff during the MH3 streamer event today.
@guywithaguitar8521
@guywithaguitar8521 24 күн бұрын
Seth's Dog panting while he's explaining the deck is funny as hell! love the deck! always enjoyed seeing peoples reactions to this card when i ran it in modern black devotion.
@Fawlty22
@Fawlty22 24 күн бұрын
Bear is such a good boy!
@MTGGoldfish
@MTGGoldfish 23 күн бұрын
He's the loudest panter, that's actually how I find him when he wanders off into the woods - just listen for the panting.
@nooby900
@nooby900 20 күн бұрын
23:26 awesome. opponent probably thought both strikes would hit.
@benlayne7596
@benlayne7596 24 күн бұрын
That was the great "scoop" ever. MTGO literally said "okay, Time stop." 😂
@whiterabbit6575
@whiterabbit6575 3 күн бұрын
hello, i just found your chanel again after a long time and want to say i love the decks you are building and the shows you are producing. im a disabled veteran and your chanel brings joy to my day. thank you
@TransformersBoss
@TransformersBoss 24 күн бұрын
Slightly unnerved by the way Seth says Necrop*ssy. Is he the real Graveyard Trespasser?
@MitchRusso45
@MitchRusso45 24 күн бұрын
Anyone else hear the extremely high constant pitch during the video?
@baileylaviolette543
@baileylaviolette543 24 күн бұрын
Perfect timing, I just finished listing a Phyrexian Fight Club EDH deck that's basically exactly this
@Koalogy
@Koalogy 24 күн бұрын
Yes! I love Phyrexian Obliterator; its one of my favourite cards ❤
@yojimbo301
@yojimbo301 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for showing the probability calculator. That is a tool I will use in the future when deckbuilding.
@connormohs6046
@connormohs6046 24 күн бұрын
Loving smugglers surprise with Vaultborn Tyrant. I made a “Dino Surprise” deck with it and instead of Obliterator and Ghalta I use Etali, Tyrranax Rex, Trumpeting Carnosaur and Kogla and Yidaro
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 24 күн бұрын
Ran into this deck on the ladder and I had no clue what they are actually trying to do with obliterators. I was playing unblockable Menace creatures with a Rope equipped - the deck, so obliterators didn't have the option to block. Never occurred to me that they could flash them in and block xD That's way cooler of a gameplan than what I experienced, because my jank was jankier. Though I was confused why they didn't attack, they had the opportunity to deal at least 10 damage that game but didn't swing in - ended up winning with 22 life so it didn't matter but it seemed free at the time.
@DerplingKing
@DerplingKing 22 күн бұрын
What colors were you running? G for Rope and then R for menace and equip support? B for menace and more removal as fundamentals?
@nicholasiverson9784
@nicholasiverson9784 22 күн бұрын
@@DerplingKing Just BG, Fleshgorger and a small Fight Rigging package. Swamp Cyclers to collect evidence on coverup and Virtue of Persistence for early removal and end game inevitability. Had a few times where you draw too many rope and not enough bodies, but you can just crack them as clues. Only really had issue with the exile board wipe control lists and if a faster aggro list got under it on the play. Rope giving reach is sweet with massive flyers and little bats and phoenixes all over the place.
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine 18 күн бұрын
If they attack, you have even more freedom to attack with whatever else you want. So they likely figured that they'd have more time to find answers if they left it back on defense.
@MrLucidImages
@MrLucidImages 12 күн бұрын
Honestly - you don't need anything to make Obliterator better...it is literally perfection.
@timerace44
@timerace44 24 күн бұрын
Your dog panting in the deck into is crazy
@sabrinasummers9943
@sabrinasummers9943 24 күн бұрын
Is it just me, or is there a high-pitch whine going through the video (absent in the ad read because it's probably an old audio recording)
@LTenshiPandemonium
@LTenshiPandemonium 24 күн бұрын
Thought I had tinnitus, but it was in fact the video. Quite annoying sadly It's weaker on the left channel, take off that earbud or headphone and it's easier on the ears
@blupinto1629
@blupinto1629 24 күн бұрын
love the idea!
@slightgraph89
@slightgraph89 24 күн бұрын
Video good. Thumbnail perfect
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine 18 күн бұрын
All the cards in the world will never replace knowledge of the rules and mechanics! My friend and I once had a board state where he had an Abyssal Persecutor, me down to -4 life, but no way to sac it. I was playing mono green with a splash of the 3 legendary Eldrazi. I attack him with lethal trample damage, but no Eldrazi, because annihilator would work against me. He of course blocked with Abyssal Persecutor in such a way that it would die, and then we had to dig into the rules to figure out who wins. We concluded, and were eventually proven right when we asked a judge about it, that I won, because Abyssal Persecutor, and it's ability, remain on the board until the cleanup step, meaning that my friend lost before his Abyssal Persecutor could die and result in my loss!
@sgoeken
@sgoeken 24 күн бұрын
W0bee here. I've been waiting for this to come up for a few weeks. Amazing how his monolog was just about what I was thinking in game three.
@Distrille311
@Distrille311 24 күн бұрын
Another strat is playing the obliterator and doing a little bit of fighting with your opponent creature
@LordZurkov
@LordZurkov 24 күн бұрын
He's done videos with that before, back when it was first released in the Historic Anthology. I still think Mogis' Favor and Back for More are incredible in an Obliterator deck.
@MexicanDre
@MexicanDre 24 күн бұрын
23:31 😂 best ever
@DragonAttack515
@DragonAttack515 23 күн бұрын
I played Staff once. They were playing some kind of janky game eldraine tap deck, and i went infinite on turn 4. So I could say that I have 100% winrate against WOTC.
@isaactaher9396
@isaactaher9396 18 күн бұрын
Opponent: "Fine. I'll do it myself"
@themobiustripper
@themobiustripper 23 күн бұрын
I mean if you're running obliterator in golgari, there are fight spells that will force them to sac. That's how I play it at least. Green ramps and fights while black is obliterator and tutors and kill spells. Also Leyline Prowler! ramps you while defending you fairly competently.
@user-qt8un9om5h
@user-qt8un9om5h 20 күн бұрын
The thing i notice the most is trying to hold back in anticipation of the opponent. Play what you need and adjust off of that
@atlanntis8064
@atlanntis8064 19 күн бұрын
2:48 Sunken City, now they're not going to see this coming
@mennoantheunisse3933
@mennoantheunisse3933 18 күн бұрын
I love obliterator decks. Have a infect fight obliterator deck that's fun.
@erisdiscordia5429
@erisdiscordia5429 24 күн бұрын
This sort of stuff is why Tamiyo: Collector of Tales is among my favorite planeswalkers. Ha! lol I had not seen smugglers surprise until this video, got my arena daily done and opened a pack with smugglers surprise. Noice.
@kione83
@kione83 24 күн бұрын
Nice!
@ChaoticKatana
@ChaoticKatana 24 күн бұрын
I think this deck is a cool meme. I think the issue is that you don't have enough early game plays. Maybe one for Mosswood Dreadknight?
@tonnenpanda
@tonnenpanda 24 күн бұрын
What was the plan in the 3rd game vs Jodah? Just play Obliterator or keep up the removal. What was the point of another land? Am I stupid?
@someguy1ification
@someguy1ification 20 күн бұрын
... Ideally, the smuggler's surprises will make them *hexproof, indestructible* Obliterators
@exile6129
@exile6129 24 күн бұрын
This is my favorte card. 4 of these and 4 sheoldred the apocalypse with 4 gix command and 4 tergrid.
@mondaynugget6503
@mondaynugget6503 24 күн бұрын
This is a sorcery, but I like "Lively Dirge" for the obliterator. Its spree abilities are +1 search your library for a card and put it in your graveyard and +2 return up to 2 creatures with total mana 4 or less from graveyard into battlefield. 4 obliterators, 4 dirges, fight spells. Its neat
@jancukasu
@jancukasu 24 күн бұрын
16:55 "I don't wanna win the game, I want to smuggler's surprise" -Seth, 2024 🤣
@ZJasmineDragon
@ZJasmineDragon 20 күн бұрын
did something very similar with fight spells. Way easier to pull off. We have instant speed 1 mana fights in the format, you can do it turn 4 with the right hand. It doesnt need to be during combat. The spell itself is usually killing a creature, making the number of creatures they need to sac even more brutal. I get you want your surprise, but honestly there are easier ways of achieving the same goal
@Tharkon
@Tharkon 23 күн бұрын
51:00 Actually, population size would be 49 because you had already drawn 11 cards, successes is only 20 because you had already drawn or fetched 5 lands. This would make the chance of failure 6.3% rather than 5.9%. Not a big difference but still something to keep in mind, especially in longer games.
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody 24 күн бұрын
Yes, Seth, you play against a WotC before. It was in one of the streamer Early Access events last year(2023).
@chronosorion6911
@chronosorion6911 24 күн бұрын
There’s no “uh” sound after the P in Necropsy, it’s just Neh-crop-see. 😊
@jkdeadite
@jkdeadite 24 күн бұрын
I wonder if the deck would work a little more consistently with more ramp and less crime. Hostile Investigator doesn't really advance the plan much, and the singleton Stomper whiffing so easily on only 2 basics probably doesn't help either. I would be interested to see a version with the 2-mana ramp spell, a couple more basics, and the set of Stompers. The first competitive deck I ever tried to build was Tooth & Nail when it was in Standard, so this was a fun deck to watch!
@aequanimus63247
@aequanimus63247 24 күн бұрын
Cool deck, but I kinda wanna try out Sword of once and future on Glissa now.
@danielquigley2695
@danielquigley2695 20 күн бұрын
23:00 😂 wait for it. Takes less than a minute. 🎉🎉🎉
@emperorurbi
@emperorurbi 20 күн бұрын
You could add in some bushwhack. It's helpful to fix your lands. And later game you can force the damage on the obliterator.
@alaraplatt8104
@alaraplatt8104 20 күн бұрын
you could... but as soon as you bushwhack for a swamp, people know there's obliterators in your deck. and this video is about surprises
@dwpetrak
@dwpetrak 10 күн бұрын
My kind of monster!
@Firstonetolive
@Firstonetolive 24 күн бұрын
I acutally played one of the devs today in Bo1. Its the 2nd or 3rd one that I remember playing.
@deadneck13
@deadneck13 24 күн бұрын
I would swap out the Hostile Negotiatior for Roaming Throne. Either doubling the Obliterator triggers or the Tyrant would be nuts.
@appollanar
@appollanar 24 күн бұрын
Bushwack works good too
@camerong.5024
@camerong.5024 21 күн бұрын
Please consider a high pass filter on the audio. There's a high pitch whine in the video.
@SethMilliken
@SethMilliken 21 күн бұрын
*low-pass (or high-cut) filter
@rooseveltjumps
@rooseveltjumps 24 күн бұрын
I did once play against a “mythic orange” employee, their display name also indicated they were a test user. I never felt more that I had to win a random best-of-one
@LucianDevine
@LucianDevine 18 күн бұрын
did you win?
@rooseveltjumps
@rooseveltjumps 18 күн бұрын
@@LucianDevine yes 🫡
@wnxcogboy
@wnxcogboy 3 күн бұрын
more like sunken city surprise! I play that in my OG homarid deck
@nosyamthegreat8768
@nosyamthegreat8768 24 күн бұрын
I love that the idea of "removal check" cards is getting more popular becuase it very nicely reframes "dies to doomblade" arguments
@noesunyoutuber7680
@noesunyoutuber7680 10 күн бұрын
"Yes, it does die to removal, but if it doesn't get removed it wins the game. Seems like a decent gamble."
@nosyamthegreat8768
@nosyamthegreat8768 8 күн бұрын
@@noesunyoutuber7680 EXCATLY
@xicarus8141
@xicarus8141 24 күн бұрын
The way Seth says however makes me think he's a secret jjk fan XD
@user-lp6li5zs9x
@user-lp6li5zs9x 24 күн бұрын
My first commander deck had masako the humorless for the specific purpose of tricking people into getting obliterated
@ricefrog
@ricefrog 24 күн бұрын
I've seen the dream flawless... but from the wrong side. Opposite my friend's Obliterator deck that uses fight spells instead of trying to flash into combat.
@TSpice
@TSpice 24 күн бұрын
2:48 dont think i missed that super secret Sunken Ruins tech.
@underakillingmoon
@underakillingmoon 20 күн бұрын
Please can you suggest a Pioneer version of this gate with better alternative for some cards?
@Zarentill
@Zarentill 24 күн бұрын
I played against one mythic orange name, not long after I started on arena. Don't remember who it was though lol.
@papaflowers5726
@papaflowers5726 24 күн бұрын
Necropo- WHAT, SETH?
@chronosorion6911
@chronosorion6911 24 күн бұрын
There is a card unlike any other that counters this… It causes one of your opponents creatures to deal damage to another of an opponent’s creatures… I once made someone that played Obliterator sac their entire board, off their own Obliterator!
@Koalogy
@Koalogy 24 күн бұрын
I once Necromancy-ed in Obliterater into 40/40 attacker. Needless to say I won 😂😂
@LordZurkov
@LordZurkov 24 күн бұрын
There are a few cards that do that. Cards like Solar Blaze are also pretty brutal there.
@luckylooch9696
@luckylooch9696 24 күн бұрын
Tooth and Nail at instant speed is nasty
@Brentman89
@Brentman89 24 күн бұрын
That card won’t stop me! I can’t read!
@Xyariax
@Xyariax 23 күн бұрын
I have played since the closed beta and i faced a orange named player for the first time last year.
@Argo.nautica
@Argo.nautica 24 күн бұрын
I'm always thinking about how I can snowball.
@JacoAmano
@JacoAmano 24 күн бұрын
23:39 very funny
@patritchie1317
@patritchie1317 24 күн бұрын
2:47 sunken city
@Bigd2k
@Bigd2k 24 күн бұрын
23:55 if I was to take a guess I would think your opponent may not have realized there’s a phase between first strike and the rest of damage. They may have thought all damage gets calculated then any effects happen. I’m curious if others over look this. This seems like the kind of ruling you’d mess up once and never would forget it.
@fennerdustin1382
@fennerdustin1382 17 күн бұрын
Could put in fight spells to trigger obliterater
@daledullnig1778
@daledullnig1778 2 күн бұрын
59:27 One of the several times Seth could've added the hexproof/indestructible for free, and a time it mattered. Neat deck otherwise!
@Erictraiven
@Erictraiven 24 күн бұрын
Best card with smuggler surprise is always calamity otk, it's like it was created for that
@zachgray4767
@zachgray4767 19 күн бұрын
You got hurt by that single forest in almost every match. :( You don't even need it in the deck. If you're fetching with Stomper, you already have 2 green.
@thaddiusblackmore6563
@thaddiusblackmore6563 24 күн бұрын
I just played against this deck last night.... Hopefully I'm not in this video lol saw the deck list and thought huh that looks familiar
@zacharyahearn4069
@zacharyahearn4069 24 күн бұрын
You should put a fight card in there.
@Jeison-Nunes
@Jeison-Nunes 21 күн бұрын
Just use 'fight' cards like Tail Swipe, Bushwack, etc, faster and less costly than Smuggler's, but whatevs
@salihhtamer
@salihhtamer 24 күн бұрын
If this deck contains casual Bushwack, things can be faster a lot
@alexwenner5746
@alexwenner5746 24 күн бұрын
I totally forgot obliterator was in standard I watched the entire intro assuming this was the weirdest historic deck
@ThinkRedstone
@ThinkRedstone 24 күн бұрын
I think there's a high-pitched hum in the background of this video. It's missing from the pre-recorded Card Kingsom sponsor segment, and present the rest of the time.
@Tinhow
@Tinhow 14 күн бұрын
18 minutes in, not a single obliterator has been played yet
@matthewsanchez7953
@matthewsanchez7953 24 күн бұрын
Honestly, Investigator has no right being a freaking _mythic._
@SirLanik
@SirLanik 23 күн бұрын
So.... I've won a ton of games with this deck. Probably 20+ wins. I still haven't gotten to Surprise anyone with an Obliterator.
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