Same. But I feel that she'll eventually turn against her mum and Andrealphus.

Yeah if bad batch taught me anything, is that octavia wouldn't believe andrlaphis and Stella's lies the moment she discovered the truth and realizing they are worst than stolas.

While tragic, this will probably lead to Stolas doing the Self Revaluation he needs to do, cause his actions has consequences.

And once it happens Andrealphus and Stella will kill Octavia when the time is right

Eh no​@@Blue_Justice_12

that line frustrates me so much, has ever since i saw the trailer. of course he loves her, the first part of that line IS true though, he never loved Stella. it was an arranged marriage and she was TERRIBLE to him, she knows not of what he went through for 16 or so years to give her a NORMAL childhood and if she did know, she'd feel incredibly guilty.

​​@UltimateGamerCC I agree with you, but a 16 year old with uncontrollable emotions and people telling you lies. I won't be surprised she'll believe some of the lies they tell her. And as much as I like Stolas, he's a bad written character. Stolas was just a side character that Blitzo was messing with, but he's now one of the mine characters with a complicated story. A vague and rushed complicated story. I think Stolas needed more screen time before we gotten to this plot.

@@shadowfox2730 how is he badly written? Also “side character”? You mean in the frigging pilot that clearly has some things retconned and rewritten?

@Zelink108 I have said why I think he's was written badly, and just because they reconnected and rewritten it does not mean it can be done poorly.

@@shadowfox2730 No you didn’t, you gave a weak answer.

Well I mean he’s her uncle

@@7waterdrops_7 Doesn't mean family members always use nicknames.

I agree with your theory. I wouldnt put it above the Ars Goetia dudes (mostly Andrelphus and Stella).

It could also be yet another manipulation. Telling Octavia "go along with this and if daddy comes running you'll see he loves you over some imp. We won't REALLY be taking everything, it's just to prove a point" when a) they do in fact plan to take everything and b) have some things in place to keep Stolas from showing up to make Octavia think he didn't even bother to come save her. Thus turning her against him

I always believed that striker will try to hurt both via and blitz as stolas expressly threatened striker if he tried to hurt her. So striker wanting to "kill 2 birds with 1 stone" could be very interesting

​​@@Derpy-fun125except that Stella would end up being betrayed by andrealphus. Andrealphus would probably let Stella have his position in the ars goetia if he takes stolas' place. And Octavia, having fulfilled her purpose would more than likely end up killed to remove any loose ends. Which would require blitz and stolas to effectively team up to rescue Octavia and help Stolas and Octavia go into hiding. Stolas and Octavia would essentially both lose their place in the ars goetia royalty and be forced to live among the lower classes of hell all the while resenting the whole situation. Blitz would be in an incredibly tough position as now he, Stolas, and Octavia must dodge assassination attempts from the ars goetia whilst dealing with their bitter resentment of him. Moxie and Millie would abandon blitz for their own self preservation and because they'd get sick and tired of blitz and the consequences of his actions. Loona would likely leave blitz as well because the situation blitz put himself and her in would prove too much for her to deal with. Where the story goes from there, I have no idea *Edit: I don't think Paimon would care that Stolas was overthrown by Andrealphus and Stella as he always viewed Stolas as a means to an end and an annoying liability that he doesn't have to deal with anymore. But would probably come to regret accepting the change of positions as it becomes clear that Octavia is still alive. The discovery that andrealphus claimed Stolas' position illegitimately at the behest of Stella would make for some awkward conversations with the other goetia kings.

@@nil981 that'd be a fun plot point

We will definitely be seeing more of her :] Don't worry

I hate that according to Vivienne Helluva Boss this is a men's show... I'd like to see more of Octavia.

we really have no clue what thier realtion ship is all fotage we have is with stollas nit them alone with each other

Dude, during Stolas’s kidnapping by Striker it was only Andrelphus pointing out that _Octavia_ would be the heir to Stolas’s ‘everything’ that made her delay his death, I can only guess she wanted to either pressure him into giving it all to her or pressure Octavia the same way. But we still have no clue what sort of mother Stella is to Octavia, like is she an attentive mother or an absent one? With what we know so far I can only assume she wanted to pressure Stolas into changing his will to be in her favour 🤔🤔🤔

I think she genuinely forgets she has a kid

I wouldn’t actually necessarily say it’s “obvious” considering that when you’re forced to have a kid with someone you don’t love, you’re not going to love the experience. also, Stella only referred to her pregnancy as “the egg”, it’s like how one calls a baby. I would see taking what Stella said as the equivalent of, “I had a baby” since some birds don’t really go through labor, their eggs would literally just pop out. maybe this was stella’s experience, her egg’s initial birth just felt like another tuesday. AND, Octavia’s actual birth wasn’t when the egg first popped, it was when she pipped and hatched. therefore, we don’t actually know how stella felt when Octavia was born. I would also like to point out that Andrealphus calls Octavia by her nickname, “Via”, which implicates that there may be some level of relationship, not necessarily Stella, but maybe just with her uncle.

They don't have to lie. Stolas already barely acknowledges that she has any thoughts different from his.

It could also refer to the weird Demon cult we saw in the trailer Or it could be the Dhorks with Cherubs attacking again Or maybe, just maybe Crimson or Striker show up again too

Stolas has his flaws so it makes sense

@@tobsonasanya4765 yes, but its the only thing that ever happens with her. I want maybe a short where its just her life outside of stolas, like living with Stella or having to deal with other royals, (or maybe go outside if she is allowed to) all we know about her is from her problems with stolas.

Exactly

its hard to be a dad when you've been starved for 25 years.

@@CartoonUniverse its not an excuse. Stolas must learn to set his priorities. Especially since he claims Octavia as "the best thing in his life".

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Can you talk about the old kinnikuman anime? This is only because of the new kinnikuman anime coming out which is based on the first arc of the 2011 manga.

we do know what Stella thinks of Octavia in season 2 ep 1 (I think), when she mentions Octavia as only the egg she laid. and in seasons 1 ep 2, when Octavia was a little owlet, she had a nightmare and then called for both Stella and Stolas. Stella ignores her, while Stolas comforts her. So while we may not have any interactions between Stella and Octavia, we can already tell how Stella thinks of her.

@@tatyonnacox7167 There was also season 2, episode 2, when Stella and Stolas are fighting over the phone and Stolas says, “No, I’m not turning her against you”. Implying they do have a relationship she’s afraid he’s jeopardizing. Or she only wants control over Octavia to make sure she becomes a proper heir the Goetia want.

@@LauraM96829 guessed I'd miss that line. also, I'm gonna go with the second option, because Stella acts like Octavia doesn't exist to her or is just an egg she laid, so I can see her only wanting control over Via just because she wants to and because of Royal Ars Goetia traditions.

@@tatyonnacox7167I don’t think Stella was referring to Via, I think she was just referring to her as a ‘baby’, since Octavia wasn’t actually born yet when the “egg” popped out. Stella could literally just be referring to the egg…

@@tatyonnacox7167Stella has the spoiled princess attitude, hence why she didn’t tend to Octavia, she was too lazy.. we aren’t sure AT ALL what Stella thinks of Octavia. My theory is that she doesn’t love her like Stolas does, but I do certainly think there is some existent connection, since Andrealphus refers to her as ‘Via’ and not by her full name. Indicating some bond since he calls her by her nickname..

At least there may be time for her to reflect and meditate on the situation or even see a family on earth like hers but sees all the problems they have and octavia may have a revelation on her family

Oh boy, well folks looks like it's time for more drama and also a lot of tissue price increase

No one never said he's a good father. And I honestly don't know why people expect him or anyone to be a father, when they themselves don't what it takes to be one. He was forced to have a kid when he shouldn't have had and not have a good example of what it is to be a father. Of course, he's gonna be a crappy father. For Blitzo, he may not had a good father but he at least had a good mother. How I see it, Blitzo has good people around him, while Stolas actually has no one. Yes, he has Octavia but he has no one his age like friends or family.

@@shadowfox2730 I've heard a lot of people try to say he's an amazing father. Btw you make a great point

@@allisonleksutin357 oh god, who ever is saying that is delusional. And thanks.

We don't know, but its probably 'vague' to her, like she understands arranged marriages but still believed there was love, largely because of the way stolas acts.

Wait it happened multiple times? I thought it was just that one time in episode 5

I figured it was a choker 🤷🏼‍♀️

@@areakastudios6704 ikr they keep changing it from white to gray idk why

I knew it! I was right to call him Elsa off wish!

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@@CartoonUniverseLol sick