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Ofcom to withdraw Intermediate licences? Plan of Work 2023-24 with RSGB

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Matt M6CEB 2E0FNM

Matt M6CEB 2E0FNM

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@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 Жыл бұрын
Intermediate getting free full sounds good to me. I got 2E0 around 2 years ago, but a degree and career change have meant I haven't taken the step of sitting Advanced. If I'm honest, I couldn't care less about electronics and circuits, I just like the achievement of speaking to people in different countries. Unkind people might term me an 'appliance operator '. Whatever! I love the hobby and have fun 😊🤘
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I totally understand what your saying I'm not into electronics either 🙌 72 John
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb P.S. I'm good on QRZ. 2E0SVB 🤘
@alex-plays8407
@alex-plays8407 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb Same here. I am a professional network / systems engineer, but in 20 years, I have *never* needed to fix something at component level. In fact, for insurance purposes, it would be frowned upon. Time to remove the electronics irrelevence.
@alzag6hpr553
@alzag6hpr553 Жыл бұрын
I agree with a two tier system but there is a reason why the advance is difficult, with much greater privileges brings much greater risks and dangers. I can’t see them giving the Intermediate’s a full license. I have no background in electronics and passed the advanced in 3 months. Be interesting to see what they do.
@johnclarke2997
@johnclarke2997 Жыл бұрын
No harm in improving the understanding of operating practice and more on the regulation side. But not needing to do more electronics. Personally I would bring back a two tier system were operators who just want to chat and do fox hunts and so on can do so without needing to all the electronics. That would get you say 50 watts on all bands with all modes and that is more than enough for majority of amateur radio (That could be a class B operator), that exam requires more on the operating practice and regulation. Whilst more electronic knowledge and more importantly understanding of EMC rewards more power usage (That could be a class A operator). Anyway it was all on one exam in 1993 when I took the C&G exam.
@nickjh1968
@nickjh1968 Жыл бұрын
Some very interesting points raised here. Totally agree on the point about electronic theory, I’m not particularly interested, yet radio and antenna theory is infinitely interesting to me. I’m a foundation license holder, presently studying Intermediate, and completely agree on the power structure you suggest, much more appropriate.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you taking the time to comment and good luck with the studies :) I am sure before you know it you will be a 2E0 :) 73 bud :)
@theoldhobbit3640
@theoldhobbit3640 Жыл бұрын
You know what, I had a huge response to this video and comments to some of the rather condescending comments, but I deleted it as its just not worth it 😂🤣. Times change, dinosaurs pass on and new and exciting things take their place, enjoy the hobby people, 73. Great video and thank you for sharing.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
totally agree, its a hobby at the end of the day, were all here to learn from each other and move with the times. I really appreciate your comment and taking the time to watch :) 73 bud
@G0FUW
@G0FUW Жыл бұрын
I think it would be wise to wait and see what the Ofcom consultation document says. Speculating about speculation is totally pointless. Remember, it was Ofcom that demanded the Intermediate exam was made more difficult in order to align with the privileges of the Intermediate Licence. Take care not to run away with factual errors, for example, the RSGB does not have a monopoly on exams, the RAF Cadets have their own exam, and there is no requirement to memorise the resistor colour code, it is provided in the exam data booklet. I have no idea what Ofcom have in mind, but it could simply be a re-write of the Licence Conditions. As amateur radio costs them money, they are unlikely to spend very much time on the review.
@lonewolfhamradio
@lonewolfhamradio Жыл бұрын
At this time there are only a few possible outcomes. 1. There is a review and something changes. 2. There is a review and nothing changes. 3. The review is cancelled.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Fair points. I wanted to make people aware so it opens up a discussion and if ofcom do a survey we can all add our thoughts. Thanks for watching 🙌 73
@jamesstapleton2936
@jamesstapleton2936 Жыл бұрын
totally agree Steve
@MrBracey1970
@MrBracey1970 Жыл бұрын
Foundation-50w Intermediate-100w Full-400w Construction license if needed 😊
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
My thought's for many a year
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Good feedback 👍
@colourist.
@colourist. Жыл бұрын
Agree with you! Maybe 1kW for full please . I suspect things may actually simplify to a single HAREC exam like in EI and many other countries though... 73 M0VFX
@G0ogs
@G0ogs Жыл бұрын
No band restrictions is the answer not power levels
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
@@G0ogs Makes a lot of sense, so can't disagree with you, thanks for watching bud :)
@N1NJAKIDD
@N1NJAKIDD Жыл бұрын
Dont shy away from the full, just do it, you never know you might pass. Get yourself booked on to a full licence course at the nearest Amateur Radio club you can find one being run, watch as many KZfaq video courses as you can, I recommend the Cornish Radio Amateur club videos, and go for it, whats the worse that can happen?? You fail, just go again and as soon as poss so the information is still in your head. I took the full exam and was really in fear of failing, but luckily I passed and actually felt right after taking the exam, it wasnt as bad as I thought it was going to be.
@Gildermesh
@Gildermesh Жыл бұрын
The reason you need to learn the electronics and other areas you may not be interested in is to enable you to work towards the Full licence in easy steps. You have to know and understand all the topics in the exam to allow UK licence holders to be able at Full licence level to qualify for reciprocal licence status with other countries. This means you can use your Full licence status to be able to operate in many countries without having to sit their exam.
@johnnorth9355
@johnnorth9355 Жыл бұрын
As an M7 of 2 1/2 years due to needing something to do during lockdown I extended my interest in CB by taking the foundation licence (via Essex Ham) and have no real intention of progressing further as it is qrp and using propagation and various ad hoc antenna designs that interest me. I have absolutely no intention of building a transceiver but love all of the commercial stuff that is available for portable that's appearing. With the high point of the cycle more power is not necessary for the moment but yes when we are back to low cycle an extra few watts would be handy. 73 M7BLC
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you and congratulations on the M7 thanks for watching and commenting 🙌
@jeffreycrawley1216
@jeffreycrawley1216 Жыл бұрын
Me too and a big shout out to Essex Ham - their Foundation course is impressive. Don't think I'd be able to pass the Intermediate anyway as I'm colour blind and that makes identifying the value bands on resistors etc. practically impossible! 73 M7KEC
@jeffreycrawley1216
@jeffreycrawley1216 11 ай бұрын
@@_NeuroTech_ I took my Foundation level exam online in July 2020 - we were supposed to click on the "purple" tabs when answering the questions. OK, but to me "purple" looks blue (my eyes filter out the red) . . . . Turns out I've quite a few purple shirts that I thought were blue too! 😄
@mharrison557
@mharrison557 8 ай бұрын
I passed my Foundation licence with Essex Hams online course in Feb 2022... I may try for intermediate but I enjoy what I have now.. mostly do FT8 anyway as I have a full time nightshift job so only manage to get on the radio maybe 1 day a week ... 73s all M7CYC
@2EOGIY
@2EOGIY Жыл бұрын
4:36 At first, the syllabus comes from recommendations. The recommendation is not legislation. It is a regulatory act. In other words, legislation is something that you must obey, but regulation is an offer that you can't reject. Then back to T/R 61-02 (where is everything that could be expected from the licensee). Changes in the syllabus might amend the right to have a HAREC by UK radio amateurs. Amateur radio is the only service where the operator and the engineer is the same person, which poses requirements towards electronics. Memorizing the colour code was never a requirement; the expectancy was the ability to read that reflected in the exam reference datasheet by giving those codes. There is a purpose for having a novice class and a full licence, but there can only be changes at the lower level. Intermediate is supposed to be a minor upstep towards a full licence, or the learning gap could be devastating for moving forward.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment buddy, great points raised there :) 73
@lmaoroflcopter
@lmaoroflcopter Жыл бұрын
This.
@fulford1000
@fulford1000 Жыл бұрын
I'm a G1 and we had to take the full City and Guilds test in 1983 as a class B. Only VHF and UHF you had to do morse to gain HF. Test was old resistance and old fashioned tubes even then. Maybe it should be changed again as I was allowed full HF in the 90's.
@adam-g7crq
@adam-g7crq Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree with having a two tier licence system and upgrade the intermediate to a full licence but I'd keep the Foundation licence as is and at 10 watts there needs to be something to motivate upto a full ticket, on CB you might be able to operate above 10 watts but your not able to operate out of the 11 meters band unless your licenced to do so.
@robgibbsofficial
@robgibbsofficial Жыл бұрын
I'm an M7 and happy that I have more options available however I mainly use CB which has obviously has no heirachy structure and most of the people I speak with are in fact amateurs using CB as they prefer the informality and find it more fun. it's a funny old world 🌎
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Nothing at all wrong with CB a lot of radio hams started there. at the end of the day were all here to have a chat and learn from each other, all the best bud :)
@davidw460
@davidw460 Жыл бұрын
Amateur radio is a science based hobby, so there will be radio and electronics theory in it. The level of knowledge for a full licence is broadly agreed with international bodies. I am sorry you feel discriminated against by having to demonstrate knowledge to progress through the ranks. It’s intended to be fun and a challenge, not create victims of some perceived class war.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback David. I do agree however I feel the current intermediate syllabus has got enough of the electronics in it especially when most people don't construct or mess around in radios anymore. I want to pass my full more than anything but have been struggling so much, I'll never give up and I'm trying as hard as I can to achieve it 👍 I really appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment 👋
@davidw460
@davidw460 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb Best wishes and good luck with your studies. Lots of good folks in the hobby who are welcoming and inclusive in their words and actions. But just as in Life there are a few individuals who are best ignored :)
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
@@davidw460 thanks a lot David! I will never give up on the full but I'm a carer for my disabled son so time isn't always on my side. I really appreciate you coming here and interacting with the channel and video. 73 bud 🔥
@M7BCN
@M7BCN Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, good to see another video from you. I’m a M7 and jumping from 10w to 50w isn’t a big enough carrot for me. Each time we double our output power, we’re increasing our signal by 3dB. One S point is equal to 6dB. Foundation to intermediate will give me just over one S point. Like yourself, I feel that the full exam is beyond my capabilities due to far to much electronics, technical data. If it could be simplified I’d fancy my chances of passing and be far more motivated to do so. BTW You also made a great point regarding foundation power limit versus none licensed 11m operators. 2w isn’t going to be noticeable but it’s a joke that a licensed ham radio operator has to use less.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you mate, i was an M6 for 10 years and was more than happy to stay. I feel 10w is just far too low power for a foundation but I hope that they will rework things to improve it for all of us :) I would air your views in the comments on essexham and if the RSGB or Ofcom do a survey do that too, I hope this video has got more people together so we can voice and get things changed for the better :) 73 buddy and thanks for your continued support :)
@johngulliver6151
@johngulliver6151 Жыл бұрын
And you stuck to your power limitations wow thats honorable.
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
@@johngulliver6151 really, you believe that tosh ??
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
So maybe the foundation should be given as much privileges ?? maybe you should be allowed the same as the japanese novices, 40, 15, 10 and 6mtrs and 10w ?? or maybe only be given 20khz of each band to work and this allocation be outside of the world contest or DX window areas ? would you have an incentive to progress then ??
@DnBclassictunes
@DnBclassictunes Жыл бұрын
50 watts is easy plenty lol
@smudger53
@smudger53 5 ай бұрын
My experience of 11 metres is that it works reasonably well without any licence. A few idiots mess around always foreign and mostly Spanish and 1 or 2 Russians. Mostly people follow an etiquette and are polite and friendly.
@g7npl
@g7npl Жыл бұрын
A kick in teeth to all the peaple that sat RAE A radio ham not knowing electronics is unthinkable and will brag the hobby down the gutter shame on the RSGB.
@G0GCQ
@G0GCQ Жыл бұрын
I sat the RAE & my teeth are fine 😀 I respect your views, but the world, and technology, have moved on. We need to attract new blood & so we need to modernise our outlook, expectations, and the way we do things. T’was ever so! After all, we don’t include valves any more.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
I did the R.A.E. and found my paper online last year. How did I pass it? Basic electronics in the R.A.E. helped me in building stuff and getting things working and gaining more knowledge as I went on. And that's it, basic electronics! G4GHB.
@steveparkes
@steveparkes Жыл бұрын
I'm a M7 and it's not power that I'm missing it's the ability to build my own low power transmitters. The cost and time investment in upgrading just puts it out of my reach at the moment. I'm not a rag chewer (in fact I don't like voice to voice comms in general) so the extra power is not something I'm missing but I'd love to add home brewed digi modes to my antennas and see how far I can get on 1/2 watt of my own design.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good feedback 👍 appreciate the comment and thanks for watching 🙌
@m0rjc
@m0rjc Жыл бұрын
I'm an M0 but I have a degree in electronics, communication and control engineering so it was natural to work through the licenses. I tend to use QRP because that area interests me. One hope to start playing with WSPR using a microcontroller to see if the synthesiser in the mid range PIC I have can do it.
@steveparkes
@steveparkes Жыл бұрын
@@Northernbloke. I could. Just as you could have taken the time to read my comment in the context of the video it's attached to ;)
@adamap2796
@adamap2796 Жыл бұрын
@@m0rjcThe required cost and time investment in upgrading his license puts progression beyond Stevens reach.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
Or try building a Pixie. Mine is 350 mW out. Furthest is 180 miles on 5.262 MHz. G4GHB.
@stuartmcloughlin
@stuartmcloughlin Жыл бұрын
The Intermediate syllabus now is very close to the full anyway. The exception is that it (the full) goes into more detail but the content is essentially the same - (albeit in more detail). There are very VERY few people out there building their own equipment. For example, someone that buys a radio from an emporium isn't going to be worried about resistors in series or parallel or building a power supply or working out what circuit diagram is. As an example, simply understanding what the symbols are within a circuit diagram and how they operate is most likely all you'll ever need (certainly in my case) for tracking down a potential issue or simply for the "fun" of it. Most people simply buy a radio, stick up a good antenna and get on air. You're always going to have people abusing it - just have a listen on a contest night and if you honestly think people are using 10w/50w or 400w as a "full" license holder, then you're kidding yourself. The only exception I would take here is that the "hobby is dying" - it's not. People have been saying that for decades. What is needed though is as step change to open up the bands in general. You don't use them, you lose them. As as happened in a few other countries where the spectrum for that particular area was sold to the highest bidder. Personally speaking, anything that encourages more people on air, the better. And to the people that say that it's licenses out of a lucky bag: so what? I'd also challenge anyone that is having a moan about this to do an online mock exam as it's presently formatted and try to pass it first time round. I'll bet a tenner you won't unless you've spent months studying for stuff that you'll most likely never use, want or need to do ever again. When I did the training I found it incredibly difficult and off-putting - something that the RSGB are least trying to address. You're never going to please everyone on this. And I suspect that the "consultation" is already a foregone conclusion because with all due respect to the RSGB, they've seen their own membership numbers declining year on year - and not because people are losing interest in radio; simply because many view them as not being a good advocate for radio in the first place - a powerful perception - and perception it may be - but it's something that I've personally heard many times from many operators old and new.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comment! Thanks for taking the time to write that for others to see. That's what it's all about. Discussion and opinions and I really value yours. 73 bud 🔥🔥
@24nov67
@24nov67 Жыл бұрын
totally agree with you matt on every thing you said. I've held my foundation license since 2009 and had a few attempts at the intermediate and failed just short of the passmark and on each occasion it was on electronics I failed so always knew that if I got my intermediate I would never be competent enough to go for the full. as for power i know a lot of full license holders who run 1.5/2kws of power on a regular basis even though they're license limits them to 400watts so to limit a foundation license holder to 10 watts is ridiculous. I sincerely hope the exams are simplified which would potentially attract a lot of newcomers to make the jump from 11mtrs to amateur radio.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Stick with it buddy :) you will get there :) its defo not easy and the new book is a lot harder than the one i did so i feel your pain, I really appreciate your comment and watching the video, I really hope Ofcom change things for the better, a lot of radios are surface mount now so not many mess with them so electronics not as needed i dont think :)
@jason2e1hko59
@jason2e1hko59 Жыл бұрын
Interesting ! Let’s see what happens. It wouldn’t be the first time that changes like this have happened. Back when I passed my 2E1 it was was known as Novice licence, when changes came in with the introduction of foundation we did get addition benefits such as RF increase to 50w, from what I can’t remember ! Many years ago. Anyway Matt great Vid 73 👍
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Jason very much appreciated 😊 that's interesting I didn't know that, I knew about the class A and B (G1 & G0) learn something new everyday 😁 thanks for taking the time to comment and watch bud 👍
@Tom_2E1FUE
@Tom_2E1FUE Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what happened to me with my Licence, I did mine 1997 and I'm trying to get my full it is hard for sure, so what we are saying that people are stuck at Intermediate, and it might change the Licence and scrap the Intermediate! and give us the full licence that would be nice for sure, I liked my full licence if this happened I'd be over the moon, I do remember the novice change let's see what happens I'm going in again for the full.... 73's DE 2E1FUE
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb Learn something new ??? so you have no knowledge on the licencing structures at all then ?? you don't know the difference between A, B, Novice A, Novice B and even A/B class ?? and you have a youtube channel to try and influence and educate people.. you might need to start nearer home..
@ads-baisgreenock9737
@ads-baisgreenock9737 11 ай бұрын
I am about to sit my intermediate exam today Matt.. I failed it two weeks ago with one point and rebooked it the same day. This electrical theory is frying my brain calculate ohms and resistors in series etc.... Whaaaat??? lol Maybe some of us just are not meant to progress. I operate within my licence 10w qrp for data modes. It is a struggle when you know so many are using serious power but I do think we should use whatever power required to make the qso, but then reduce again. The old power argument of FT8 (for example) not being a low power mode. We know it is in fact a weak signal mode, so if everyone adopted the 400W + attitude surely it would then be known as a strong signal mode? Anyway power means nothing to me I'd rather set up an antenna on the beach as the tide comes in and chance my luck with QRP, more fun. I know this video was from a few months ago before the propositions to ofcom were actually revealed by RSGb so a lot of speculation ensued. I feel there is a lot to be desired and a lot of these proposals are just rehashes of current guidelines. What are they really giving us? The blue light services are in gagillionHz now so no one using our toys is going to interfere with them and they know that. It's a case of when a part of the spectrum is done being played with by the mil and security services then it becomes available to other services and the public. They are not concerned with us hams and our toys whatsoever, they just need folk to look down on and stamp authority on. IMO if Full ops have an increase to whatever, Intermediates goto 100W then it's only fair Foundations move upto the previous intermediate 50W as opposed to the proposed 20W (keep it even and increase in tiers otherwise it's a stick with no carrot). There are too many chiefs and not enough Indians Matt bud. If I fail it today, then the games a bogey, I am not spending any more money on an exam that is useless to my needs and my operation of radio in today's world. IMHO they should be teaching and highlighting proper radio etiquette, I was on 15m the other day and the amount of people calling repeatedly and then some more between transmissions on a frequency was shocking. What happened to calling in with your callsign once and waiting for a reply, even CBers know this? It is embarrassing to say the least. Maybe tailor the exams more to what people will actually be doing with the hobby, how to set up a station, how to set ALC properly on data modes to avoid damaging equipment or more importantly causing splatter, guides on the correct way to install antennas and check for resonance, how to use analysers, setup gateways etc etc. Anyway thanks for sharing and sorry for rewriting the bible. Bit nervous today for exam 😂. Cheers man
@dafyddr8678
@dafyddr8678 Жыл бұрын
Good to see you back Matt, Hope all is well.. It has been a while ! Great video as always. This has given me something to think about. I am one of those that just want to speak with others and don't really have an interest in the electronic side of things ( for now anyway! ) A 2 teir system sounds far better and hopefully cleaner than having to go through 3 exams with a lot of stuff one perhaps doesn't want to use, plus in the end make it more advantageous to go full licence.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Great to hear from you bud 👍 hope your doing ok? Yes it's been a while but I'm always here in the background I agree with you and hope things change for the better 👍
@m0ogy
@m0ogy Жыл бұрын
Interesting video, I think it should be a two tier system as it was when I passed the City and Guilds RAE. Many see it as a "Cash Cow" and IMO if you have the ability to pass the Full, there should be a Direct Access in the way of the Motorcycle Test, but at least there should be the option.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Great point 👍 maybe things won't change but the more people that are aware the better as they may do a survey for us to add our thoughts and opinions before a decision is made. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment. 73 👍
@alzag6hpr553
@alzag6hpr553 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, there is a direct to full exam now, think it came out last year. It’s aim at those already in the radio field of communications.
@m0ogy
@m0ogy Жыл бұрын
@@alzag6hpr553 Unlike the days you and I did the City and Guilds RAE then🙂
@kengrey7263
@kengrey7263 Жыл бұрын
Time to move to a simplified version of the US licensing where bands and band segments are set by category of licence, For example - 80m below 3.65, 40m below 7.1, 20m below 14.2, and so on, plus no WARC bands. It gets away from the power abuse problem (which is bigger than you may think) and easy to police. I think 2 tier rather than 3. As far as technical knowledge is concerned I believe whatever licence level held it is essential. For example, if you are radiating spurious or harmonic rubbish affecting other amateur users or commercial users you have to have some idea of where to look. Fixing the problem with the complexity of modern rigs may not be possible, but identifying where the problem may lie shows you are competent to be on the air. The current licensing seems to be more about "bums on seats" than creating a base of technically aware radio amateurs. The power abuse can be managed by restricting where new licensees can operate, encouraging them to move upward. If anyone doubts what I say about power abuse, I can take you to a couple of M3 stations (20 years licenced) who both have big linears, one an Acom 2000A (bought to keep the shack warm?) and neither care about running big power because they know they won't be caught.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your comment bud. Thanks for taking the time to add your comment for the discussion! You make some great points. 73 👍
@mindblast3901
@mindblast3901 Жыл бұрын
Dumbing down everything in the world
@tonyntrisha
@tonyntrisha Жыл бұрын
If it encourages more people into the hobby then great, aged 57 I got the first 2 licences and joined my local radio club to find I was one of the younger members. Times have changed, licencing needs to follow suit or the hobby will die out.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Fair and valid points! Thanks for watching 🙌
@maxwellbruce4747
@maxwellbruce4747 Жыл бұрын
You will all be on 555 when the cycle peaks . :-)
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
12w CB and work the worldwide!
@leightonlewis4954
@leightonlewis4954 Жыл бұрын
I've been an Intermediate Licence holder since 2019, I agree with you 100 Percent, Foundation Licence Holder ought to be allowed 50 Watts, And existing Intermediate Licence Holders be upgraded to Full Licence Holders, I've tried studying the Full Licence, However, The maths is absolutely horrendous and is way beyond my Level, Hence why i had no option, But to Abandon my studies for it, I will never pass it in a million years, because of this mental blockage with maths.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I'm really struggling with the electronics and maths too. Seems overly complex for 2023, I doubt many amateurs get there hands into modern radios now, a lot more computer based nowadays
@leedeller1906
@leedeller1906 Жыл бұрын
I was on CB back in the early 80’s I loved it. A friend of mine who is a full licence holder suggested I get into amateur radio. I passed my foundation licence 3 years ago. I have made some good friends but have also been ridiculed by some too! I’m sure you all know the group on top band ! I know other M7’s that have given up due to being ridiculed. The RSGB need to get a grip and suspend these bullies! Have a listen on top band these guys never mention call signs 🙄 yet they know everything. The RSGB need to act on this issue or there be less joining the hobby.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I can't stand the way some people treat foundation licence holders! Luckily it's a minority but it still does exist. Some people are happy with foundation and don't want to progress, peaple should accept everyone. Ham radio is just a hobby at the end of the day 🙏
@paulmurton1019
@paulmurton1019 Жыл бұрын
I've been an M7 for a little over a year, and certainly have no intent on building any form of transmitter, but I do have an interest in antenna theory. I'm currently into FT8, and I've found 10 Watts to be fine for this. I have considered going to intermediate and have the book, but at the moment I see no urgency.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I do like FT8 too and its a fantastic mode :) Thx for watching and your comment :)
@MrGrerm
@MrGrerm Жыл бұрын
Its just a hobby, enjoy it while you can life is short. .I have had many hobbies over the years including CB radio 70s/80s I was put off ham radio because of Morse code, I me learning it now!!.... because its fun, Most full call signs can not fix radios etc its all plug and play today!!!!
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good point, its a hobby lets all enjoy it :) 73 bud
@dixsusu
@dixsusu Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt , though im onto full and im on electronics engineer i found unresonable that lower grade lincensee will ought to know all most indeep electroonics , one thing is to operate and another to construct . They should not be bother with the tech side so havily , its a nuicense burden . But hey, RSGB will run on steam then !
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yeh totally understand. Electronics is extremely difficult for me. If that was removed I'd be a full tomorrow 😁
@m0aze611
@m0aze611 Жыл бұрын
Originally the license structure was based around personal safety and interference. Against a backdrop of the amount of electronic junk that emits interference the chances of a new licensee doing the same is limited. But needs to be mindful. As an ex instructor it’s about time electronics was streamlined. Who needs to know the inside outs if an oscilloscope? I did when it was work related. 73 Mike
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Fantastic points and really appreciate your imput and taking the time to watch and comment :)
@johnclarke2997
@johnclarke2997 Жыл бұрын
Test equipment has radically changed in recent years. I recall the first time I used a spectrum analyser and the manager saying that thing cost £50k new and then using a VNA which cost £100k new and that was mid 1990s. Today reasonable quality for amateur and hobby electronic test equipment can be bought for a few hundred pounds and a operator can do all types of checks on his equipment for little costs.
@G0ogs
@G0ogs Жыл бұрын
Wish I had stopped on the cb but because I’m a snob before anyone thinks It, I studied and got my ham license. It’s not that difficult if you are genuinely interest. Just imagine how much money I would of saved staying with a cb and a silver rod. I like many others did the rae and the morse test then to be told the cw does not matter any more, what an insult. The foundation license should be provisional not a life time license.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Some people struggle with techical things like electronics? I am one of them, does this mean I should not be allowed on the radio? If someone has earnt their M6 callsign and stick within the limits of it then whay can't they use it for life? Appreciate the comment and its good to get other peoples opinions so I appreciate that, :)
@johngulliver6151
@johngulliver6151 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb I struggled with the technical side of the exam, but it never stopped me doing it? I put 110% effort into studying hard, it eventually paid off.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
@@johngulliver6151 I put 110% into both my intermediate and foundation but the full may as well be written in Chinese 🤣 I'm never going to give up but right now it's just out of my reach. I'm a carer for my disabled son so time isn't on my side. I'm extremely grateful for the current system as I'm now able to enjoy the hobby when I have time too 🤞
@SimonsSolarShed
@SimonsSolarShed Жыл бұрын
@John Gulliver there you have it in a nutshell. That's why people tend to stay on the foundation,it's way more work than is actually necessary In this day and age,not everyone is an electrical engineer, there is a lot of emphasis now on modular builds using not much call for electronics at the component level it's like arguing raspberry pies already built and filtering already built its not like the old days where you had tubes and the hazard that come with it.we live in a different age now and I think the courses should reflect that. Too many snobs me thinks.
@johngulliver6151
@johngulliver6151 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb I'm not saying any more on this, I've made my feelings known. I thought the city and guilds exam was written in Swahili but I learnt the language.
@cmdrstriker4730
@cmdrstriker4730 Жыл бұрын
A Ham radio licence was often seen as an asset by potential employers many moons ago when I did the exam, how many today would even care to mention it on a CV or divulge in an interview, I for one wouldn't, it's become laughable and embarrassing, well done Ofcom and the RSGB.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Ham radio is just differant now, times have changed, I love the hobby but I dont feel it nessesary to learn the amount of electronics needed to pass the full licence. thanks for watching and taking the time to comment :)
@trig6712
@trig6712 Жыл бұрын
If Of-com did anything at all they might wake up
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
your RAE city and guilds means nothing now days. you can be a dimwit foundation holder and tell everyone you're an amateur and no one knows the difference.
@frankhovis
@frankhovis Жыл бұрын
Its become laughable and embarrassing thanks to the hams themselves, not just Ofcom and RSGB.
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
@@frankhovis the aRSeGB is nothing more than a publications company out to rinse every last penny from gullible idiots with their recycled 'books' they should have been disbanded years ago, as for Ofcom, they have no clue about amateur radio, after they they made some of the bigest mistakes giving away any call sign to anyone who ask for it, even calls that have never been issued in the past and giving calls to people who had no association to the original call holder. Ofcom and the aRSeGB have been a laughing stock for years.. a lot of amateurs now class amateur radio as nothing more than glorified CB radio with the level of operators and standards to match.
@GordonHudson
@GordonHudson Жыл бұрын
More likely that regional secondary locators will be made "optional". Will let people have a shorter callsign and please the "Union Unit" of HM Government.
@oldmanandguitar
@oldmanandguitar Жыл бұрын
I would give foundation 30w, so they could use 99% of 10 meter sets legally on full power.
@rnrbishop
@rnrbishop Жыл бұрын
I'd probably just combine the foundation and intermediate, maybe jump the starter power up to 25 or 50w or so. Put some more antenna and propagation theory on the "novice". The full could be a bit less mathematical without losing the required knowledge (do we need to calculate values on half a dozen different op amps in the exam??) as its often simply the mathematics under pressure that prevent people trying.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points figure 🙌🙌
@lmaoroflcopter
@lmaoroflcopter Жыл бұрын
20w is about all you'd want foundation licence holders running for safety reasons. The current syllabus doesn't even go into proper RF safety instruction until you get into inter and really up to full. Additionally, do you really want the bands full of people splashing over you without understanding deviation for example, at 50w instead of 10w? The more power you permit the noisier the bands, or rather with great power comes greater responsibility. I'm a 2x0 and happy with it as is, never saw a point in getting a 3dB/half an S point of power increase. Only real difference would be the ability to run a repeater and request a special call sign via NoV but it looks like the new power levels are bang on imo.
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
offcom think its April' 1st!!!!!
@davidpaterson6524
@davidpaterson6524 Жыл бұрын
I cannot understand the needing to know how a radio works shold be part of obtaining the licence,,i was a shotgun permit holder i wasn't asked if knew how gunpowder worked to obtain the permit,all you need to know is about saftey ie how to wire plugs,the safe distance from a emitted rf source etc,even full licence holders would find difficulty in the repair of modern equipment.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Great points 🔥
@Allthingsradio
@Allthingsradio Жыл бұрын
You can work the world on 5 watts as I have to have the headache of sitting YET another exam for a poxy extra 40 Watts I don't think so not worth it I'd rather they modernise the full exam that may be worth doing if that's the case 73s
@Wammy1945
@Wammy1945 Ай бұрын
Total agreement with you on your thoughts for the novice and intermediate licence upgrade both licences. Many Thanks
@MrBracey1970
@MrBracey1970 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting,thanks for posting
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😍
@cooldad4
@cooldad4 10 ай бұрын
I'm just starting my Foundation course, regarding licencing; I think operator and full; full being allowed to design and build, totally agree with you ; the electronics is a pain.
@TsiolkovskySportingLocks
@TsiolkovskySportingLocks Жыл бұрын
As an M7 who is working hard towards my inter, I’m only doing it so I can build stuff, I a, a bit invested in these changes. However I’m keeping an open mind. The power changes don’t bother me, and neither really does chatting. In fact I’ve never made a single QSO - I can’t afford a HF set (hence why I want to build one) and the 2m/70cm bands are totally dead around me.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Good luck in the intermediate bud 👍 73
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
Plenty of older cheaper gear around. G4GHB.
@TsiolkovskySportingLocks
@TsiolkovskySportingLocks 5 ай бұрын
@@bill-2018 there really isn't you knnow. Well not here in the UK. Go look at the likes of Lindars or any rally you vist and its far too expensive unless you've got deep pockets.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
​@@TsiolkovskySportingLocks It depends what you want to start with, like old valve gear might be cheaper, maybe the 6 h.f. band gear. You just have to be lucky to spot something at the right rally until you can afford something else. C.w. can be a cheap option, as can non working stuff if the price is right. Ssb/cw all bands all mode all dancing does cost money. It's my other side of radio, I do like cheap and scruffy! I buy the stuff other people walk past. A tatty T.W. TopBander tx £5, no i.d. on it so neither I nor the seller knew what it was. My h/b one valve c.w. tx, all I bought were 5.262 MHz and 7.030 MHz xtals as I had the other bits, using a 61BT valve from a non working oscilloscope I was given, h/b power supply with parts I had. A Pixie kit on 5.262 MHz, £4.50. Simple and cheap and it works. 350 mW out and 180 miles QSO with a SWL report from Utrecht, 220 miles. A tatty 1944 Wireless 19 Set, c.w. only which needed work, £105 but I got £130 for an article in P.W. how I got it working. I made it xtal for stability on tx but 80m rx needs attention, 5.262 MHz great but 7.030 MHz rx not selective. Of course none of these are ssb but I find them fun and a bit of a challenge to use. Good luck in getting something. Everything I have is QRP here. My better gear is an FT817ND and my h/b 5 Watt ssb/cw tcvr made about 35 years ago. 73, G4GHB.
@chasb441
@chasb441 Жыл бұрын
I have been licenced since the 70s. Started off on CB then took the VHF/UHF RSGB licence. (G1VUT now GM). I never managed CW but was converted to a full licence some years later. The hobby is slowly dying IMHO, definitely on the V/UHF bands in my area (Analogue) so the 'relaxing' in certain areas, as you have quoted, could be very beneficial & encourage new users to the hobby. 73s
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yes I agree. I know they have changed things over the years so maybe we're due another 🙏 appreciate the feedback and have a great day 👍
@SJMDronesMedia
@SJMDronesMedia Жыл бұрын
I was studying for the foundation give up gone to cb 12watts SSB, it’s good to talk !
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
nothing wrong with CB :) I would give foundation another go, you can do the exam online now :) thx for watching :)
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
Well that's fine if you like one frequency band rather than 10 on h.f. not forgetting .l.f. and vhf/uhf/microwaves. Enjoy the 12 Watts s.s.b. G4GHB.
@davidevans6432
@davidevans6432 Жыл бұрын
From my teacher training days... The license levels reflect a performance expectation as in Blooms Taxonomy.. L1 repitition of material learned; L3 Application of material learned L5 Applying material learned in new situations. Given that the stated purpose of the hobby in the licence is experimentation and further experiential learning as a result, the notion of an operators license, and a constructors license has some mileage as a simplification. RSGB from time to time has asked for the power cap to be raised. Maybe lifting full licence to 1Kw limit is in their minds. Many of the regulation restriction decisions are based on historical interference cases. With modern technology these have been reduced, and reversed, with the urban noise floor rising year on year.. This is the invisible polution of modern cheap technology. I personally would like to see them co-ordinate with trading standards to ENFORCE regs intended to minimise this. The FCC has made some progress in this regard to chinese HTs, but there has been little or no action on wallwarts and domestic PSUs with filtering components missing. The license system is not broken, and does not need fixing. 73 de G0EVA.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the comment David. Thanks for taking the time to comment and watch the video. App speculation at this point but from what I've understood the licence conditions do change over time so who knows 🤞 73
@vtechead1
@vtechead1 16 күн бұрын
Amateur Radio is on its last hurrah. The romance of talking to somebody on the other side of the world, had been buried with the likes of facetime on mobile phones. Time to move on. Why spend thousands of pounds on equipment and go through exams hoping to hear somebody, when all they have to do is register their phone number and you could pick who you want to facetime. Most of the major radio stations are now on internet, so SW listening is dead too. Sure, there will always be a place for radio comms, but once those oldies keeping the nets going at the weekend are gone, the bands will be very quiet indeed. Fun while it lasted, but the youth of today have other ways of talking to each other- on a phone.
@AndrewKnight-ew3ss
@AndrewKnight-ew3ss Жыл бұрын
Well, I’ve had my M3 for a long and my license says license for life which means I don’t have to go any further. I actually don’t want to. I know a lot about radio and how it works 42 years playing with radio, but because of all the new interference stuff we get it does make it hard with 10 W and just as the man Matt says I believe the M3 is should have 50 W Indian media should be 100 W and full should be 800 other countries are allowed to run kilowatts guess that’s the ruling funny thing is I’ve spoke to many foreign lands on 10 warts and they’re running 500+ tickles me pink every time the simple thing is get good aerials like a good silent key told me kiss keep it simple,s works every time happy radio People please all take care x
@frankhovis
@frankhovis Жыл бұрын
I and many others are in a situation where we can't run more than 50W or so because of the EMF exposure limits. I know others who can't go over 20W for the same reason. Why would I or they want a full licence??
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points and agree with you, I was more than happy as an M6 only doing the 2E for the gateways, i think somplex gateways should also be included for foundation holders as they only use 1w output so well within the licence :) appreciate the comment bud
@Steve-GM0HUU
@Steve-GM0HUU Жыл бұрын
Not so good if there has been a drop in numbers sitting or attaining Intermediate. I have wondered for sometime if there should be something like an operator licence plus one or more classes for technical/advanced/full licence (whatever they may be called). A potential issue with an operator licence is how to implement it. It is easy to implement with something like current UK CB regulations where you are only allowed to buy/use appropriately classified "stamped" transceivers. How would something similar be put in place for Amateur Operator Licencees buying/using commercial ham transceivers? A large number of Amateurs do just want to operate commercial gear and have no interest in design/construction/experimenting. So, the concept of an Operator Licence does seem appropriate. Operating approved equipment without some basic knowledge of electronics/radio can still result in the operator causing undue interference. Therefore, I do wonder if some very basic knowledge of electronic/radio theory is still appropriate in order to reduce the risk. Should a system of new license classes be introduced, how shall existing licencees transition to the new system?
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points 👍 thanks for watching Steve ☺️
@johnbaldwin9126
@johnbaldwin9126 10 ай бұрын
I left the hobby in 1990 as it was very elitist and I could not see why I needed to know how to solder 2 wires together to operate a 10w transmitter.....a motor car is much more dangerous in every way but to pass my driving test I did not need to know how a dynamo works! Unless big changes are made the hobby will die out very soon.....all young folk have a cell phone...why would they ever need a ham radio licence?
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
Get Lewis's too make a video on this????
@g0fvt
@g0fvt Жыл бұрын
It is undoubtedly a messy system with so many licence classes. I realise that not everyone has an engineering background and it is only a minority that want to design and build gear. A distinction between a constructor and operator style licence seems like a good idea at first but the demarcation soon gets blurred.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Good point and appreciate your input and feedback 😃 nothing could change who knows but they have in the past so entirely possible 🙏 73
@g0fvt
@g0fvt Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb sadly there is an attitude amongst many that it has become "too easy", I did a morse test but never ever used it on air. It would have been better for society to have sent me out to pick up litter for a day....
@GhostCallparanormal
@GhostCallparanormal Жыл бұрын
I think I was one of the lucky ones, I did my foundation license back in 1993 and was moved to intermediate when they changed the licensing rules. I only used 2m 70cm, but if I’m moved to full license holder I may think about using HF.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
That's really interesting I don't know anything about that? So you were a foundation and now an intermediate? Thanks for sharing bud 🙌
@GhostCallparanormal
@GhostCallparanormal Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb yes they bumped me up, not sure when but think it was about 2005.
@M3LWS
@M3LWS Жыл бұрын
Umm I’ve been a foundation licence holder since it came out in 2002 and I haven’t been bumped up so don’t think that is actually right to be honest lol
@M3LWS
@M3LWS Жыл бұрын
@@GhostCallparanormal you mean the A and B license change in 2001?
@GhostCallparanormal
@GhostCallparanormal Жыл бұрын
@@M3LWS I checked my license at Ofcom and it says intermediate, I did the founder’s license in 1993 never done the intermediate license.
@Allthingsradio
@Allthingsradio Жыл бұрын
As you can see I'm an m3 and have been since 2005 am I bothered about the full licence ? Not really I've seen the exam questions and some like you say are far to hard to even get right especially the mathematical 1s as I'm crap at maths. I did write to the RSGB about modernising the test as I think in today's world when was the last time you see an operator build a transmitter um never would be most people's answer in this day and age . I think there should be 1 test now scrap the rest as the hobby is dying if Im honest just my opinion. So to finish it off if they don't get in the real world it's good night to the hobby and people will just go on the band's licence or no licence .
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Fair and valid points Howard. Be interesting to see what happens. I think in general the hobby is definitely in decline 😕 thanks for watching buddy 😀 73
@user-xe8fz4tz8z
@user-xe8fz4tz8z Жыл бұрын
hi 2E0KKH john ill start by saying i cant spell and i am colour blind so doing my 2e0 was not easy for me and i went for the m0 the next week and got 50% just wanted to see how much i need to do to pass... i dont want to build a radio i do build antennas and ununs but i dont want to open up my icom 7300 and play with it, so yes get rid of that in the m0 test and give m7s 50w
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points John and I have a learning dissability so i struggle a LOT with learning so i fully understand. I am still working towards getting my full but im really struggling with it, wouldn't be as bad if there was courses we could attend instead of reading a book. :)
@dasy2k1
@dasy2k1 Жыл бұрын
Making the intermediate harmonised with CEPT 05/06 Novice would be a fantastic start... While they are at it make foundation harmonised with CEPT 89 Basic
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment thanks for watching bud 🔥
@DavidWood2
@DavidWood2 6 ай бұрын
I am surprised that the opportunity was not taken to give appropriate CEPT privileges to Foundation and Intermediate licensees and also to allow UK operation by visiting CEPT Novice and CEPT Basic licence holders.
@alexjj
@alexjj Жыл бұрын
Be interesting if they do simplify it to two tiers. Although sounds like it'll be 2024+ (maybe even 2025 by the time changes are made) before anything actually changes. I'm just foundation but have bought the intermediate manual and considering doing it.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I would give the foundation a go. Bit more involved but 50w is nice to have. 🔥
@T0mmy999
@T0mmy999 Жыл бұрын
So what will we get that did the RAE and the 12 WPM Morse like I did? Extra Power I would welcome that. M0BOC
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I definitely think they should acknowledge the people that did everything 👍 thanks for taking the time to comment 🙌
@SimonFairbourn
@SimonFairbourn Жыл бұрын
Isn’t the whole point one of safety with people having cooked themselves and their neighbours with strong fields? Learning more about field strengths seems to be the main thrust of the last lot of changes? I suppose the rest of the theory could be in a special constructors’ qualification but how not to cook yourself is an important bit of knowledge. I’m put in mind of how microwave ovens were allegedly invented after seeing seabirds cooked by radar on naval ships using frequencies somewhere near our 6m band.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
yes very good points and agree with what your saying :) thx for taking the time to comment :) 73
@TheHamRadioJunkie
@TheHamRadioJunkie Жыл бұрын
Intersting video with some food for thought. The old A and B licence was a good system which provided new licence holders with full power on 144 MHz and up. The VHF & UHF bands were packed with contacts, it was lovely. Now I feel the ability to progress to a class A based on your ability to send and recieve CW prevented some from progressing and certainly I feel this is an outdated way of progressing. So what's the answer? Maybe a foundation licence with limitations on frequency with UK maximum power limit (becasue it makes no difference if it's 10 or 400) then a full licence based on additional study. Let's see what happens. But one thing for sure, since we stopped paying for our licence we have no control on what Ofcom do.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points made thanks for sharing 👍
@lmaoroflcopter
@lmaoroflcopter Жыл бұрын
Ofcom don't want to introduce band limits in the same was as in the US. That would be an absolute nightmare. Some bands are full of 4kw beaming s9+++ EI callsigns as is. Can you imagine being an intermediate and limited to an even thinner slice of the pie? Damn. RF safety at 400w is considerably more necessary than at 10w, ICNIRP is a thing too. Neither of these are covered at any depth in foundation.
@matknight
@matknight Жыл бұрын
Word has it that Ofcom are trying/wanting to go back to A&B licences, i heard last night that they may bring back the City and Guilds platform too, also Ofcom may be sending out to foundation licence holder a questionnaire regarding equipment you own/ have bought. Why, i have no idea. Now, at the moment, I'll suggest this is just speculation, but things are changing, and tbh are they changing for the better. We certainly need a system that benefits all classes of licence.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very very interesting. I personally think that things will change but like everyone I hope it's for the better 🙌 thanks for takig the time to watch and comment 😊
@sarto7bellys
@sarto7bellys Жыл бұрын
Many years ago, 1984, I took the old RAE exam and gained my B class licence, I didn't do the Morse test to gain my A class and subsequently a full licence. I was quite content. Life and circumstances got in the way and I didn't do too much with it. Move on to Covid in 2020, I resurrected my old call sign, G1... with the appropriate paperwork and lo, due to 'grandad' rights I was granted a full licence.............................
@bradleywyatt1527
@bradleywyatt1527 8 ай бұрын
fully agree with your findings
@g0ooq537
@g0ooq537 Жыл бұрын
Totally unfair to those of us who've put the time and effort into achieving full status. It's not class or hatred, it's about putting in a little time and effort
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
I do understand but some people just cant get thier head around some of the material in the full. I have tried to learn the full and I really struggle so I may be "stuck" on my 2E for life and thats fine, if it wasnt for the tier system I wouldnt be enjoying radio at all :) I have huge amounts of respect for you and other full licence holders, :) thanks for watching and taking the time to comment :)
@M7BCN
@M7BCN Жыл бұрын
I take my hat off to you and everyone else that’s achieved, full license status. However many people don’t realise that over half of the RAE questions were equivalent to today’s Foundation. Several topics weren’t covered, including frequency synthesis, semiconductors, Software-defined Radios, Digital Voice, Digital Data, A-to-D conversion, Direct digital synthesis, Fourier transform, Data modes, Digital TV EMC, and other topics. Other sections, such as Safety, EMC and Operating Procedures were smaller under RAE.
@g0ooq537
@g0ooq537 Жыл бұрын
I disagree Matt. To quote the RSGB, the entry level licence course takes 8 to 10 hours of study, and suits all age groups (note the kiddy photo on their website), the skill level is described as minimal. To compare that to 5 months of study at C&G level just doesn't cut it.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
@@g0ooq537 I agree things probably need to change, how I have no idea.. what I do know is that's I wouldn't be here now living the hobby, trying to help others without the system we have now. I really want a full licence and if you have any suggestions on how I can achieve it then I'm all ears. There's no courses or clubs that's do training now and reading a book just doesn't work for me. I do everything I can to help others and make a difference in a small way 😀 really appreciate you taking the time to comment and voice your opinions about it. The more people that know about this the better as together we may have a better solution for everyone ❤️
@frankhovis
@frankhovis Жыл бұрын
@@g0ooq537 And not forgetting the attitude of "I'm better than you and foundation users should only be allowed tin cans and string" NEVER put anyone off did it??
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
Thanking you for the Head's up!
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching 😍
@williethepimp
@williethepimp Жыл бұрын
I'd be shocked if they raise all 2#0's to full. Maybe M7's to Intermediate making Intermediate level 1 and realigning that exam to suit would be more appropriate. Increased wattage will see poorly built stations splattering so someone policing of that needs to be taken into consideration. Not the 'sit on our hands' RSGB though, they do nothing about the over powered splatter in contests as it is.
@dnel83
@dnel83 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they should eliminate the intermediate level but they should streamline foundation as much as possible and increase power at all levels. Intermediate should have international operating privs and make full less important except for a few niche interests that require extra training
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Great feedback! Thanks 👍
@Allthingsradio
@Allthingsradio Жыл бұрын
Just one other thing if this plan goes ahead and if the full licence gets abit easier (not) will they be getting the student to build a flux capacitor ?
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Haha maybe 🤣
@pinkunwizard
@pinkunwizard 10 ай бұрын
I've been an M3 since 2002 and work 20 and 40mtrs on 4 watts never any more than that(I'm a massive QRP fan)and have worked around the world so I've never been interested in more power. 10 watts is twice what I've ever used.
@alannorthdevonuk763
@alannorthdevonuk763 8 ай бұрын
Interesting. It's the same with me, I got my intermediate in 2018 and immediately stopped all radio activities, I took up photography and studied with the OU. Last November I read a book on ship radio, lots of CW and that re-sparked my interest in radio. I now only use 5W CW, possibly 10w max. They could make me an M6 again and it would not really bother me, in fact, 2E0xxx call signs are horrible so M6xxx would be great.
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
No more than 5 Watts here for 30+ years. Unfortunately had broadband QRM so 160m to 20m was out for me for eight years, now it's fibre and the noise is gone. I like 17m and 10m. Great what one Watt c.w. can do. Even ½ Watt s.s.b. (by mistake from a previous ½ Watt c.w. contact) to Poland when I thought I had it set to 5 Watts. G4GHB.
@G0LGS
@G0LGS Жыл бұрын
That Essex Ham page is just their own Wish List and nothing in that list is taken from any published Ofcom information.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Absolutely just speculation like I mentioned in the video but things may change (or not) appreciate the comment bud 🔥
@krystynahaywood1968
@krystynahaywood1968 Жыл бұрын
Gasp! Covid and the closing down of clubs during lockdown and beyond has contributed i think to club ability to keep people physically involved. I know my club has waned, and I stoppped providing training, cant seem to get the oomph back to training again. They made the Intermediate harder in order to make it easier to transition to full so as a result this was enough to put off foundations advancing as it's now hard to progress from there. A fail here.. I would agree with an operators licence and then a more advanced one. The US levels are interesting with the technicians being able to transmit above 30Mhz with limited HF. The other notion is the hobby is still dying into other modes... I mean... I don't want to use FT8 and data modes except for SSTV but that's where most are going now, I'm even bored of contesting...Meanwhile, I'll just back to Farcebook and playing World of warcraft..!! Lovely clear video Matt by the way... nice one...
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Krystyna :) im more of a Black Desert kinda guy myself ;) never played WOW, I really wish I could get a full licence then I am done on that front. Just a very hard topic for me personally and I REALLY struggle with it, one day.... one day lol thanks so much for commenting and watching :)
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
rich comments from a 'person' who obtained their callsign through deceit. after all if you didn't contact Ofcom and talk to a total clueless idiot in licencing you would never have been able to wrongly obtain G5YL would you not ?? after all you have no association with the call, you're not related, never knew the holder or their family, yet managed to blag a vanity historical call to suit your agender.
@jamesstapleton2936
@jamesstapleton2936 Жыл бұрын
lots of speculation since Ofcom made its announcement. probably best to just wait or attend the consultation and find out exactly what they propose
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yes agreed. I wanted to do the video to raise awareness to what may be coming (or not) especially if ofcom do a survey asking for views and opinions 👍
@drewboy5215
@drewboy5215 Жыл бұрын
I do a lot of ft8 on my M7 as only using 10w on voice is extremely frustrating you can’t get out most of the time Ft8 on 10w I’ve worked the world I’m currently studying for my 2E0 which I hope to get soon But since covid no one is doing any courses for 2E0 Or M0 self learning is very hard on your own , I wish there was some college courses . I contacted my local club to se about doing a 2E0 course and they never got back to me It’s very frustrating
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yes totally agree :) You will get there bud. I was lucky I did my 2E before the change but I do have the new book and its defo harder but on the plus side when you pass the full wont be as big of a jump :) Thx for watching bud :)
@stuartmcloughlin
@stuartmcloughlin Жыл бұрын
(And by the way Matt - great video!)
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much buddy 🔥
@SimonsSolarShed
@SimonsSolarShed Жыл бұрын
The syllabus for full licence is well outside my wheelhouse,it's frustrating because I really want to make the final leap and know it will never happen because quite frankly to convoluted and difficult. I passed my 2E0 in 2020 and found that difficult.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yes I understand that buddy. It's definitely a challenge. Congratulations on passing the 2E0 and thanks for watching 🙌
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
CB license now covers all!!!
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
Covers all what?
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
M6 are now full license
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
450mhz too 453mhz has no user!!!!???
@MM0IMC
@MM0IMC Жыл бұрын
A power increase would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. 🙄
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Who knows. Things have changed over the years so anything is possible. 🙌
@MM0IMC
@MM0IMC Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb with the recent EMC regs and hysteria about 5G, it's a hard ask! 😱
@robertdickson6317
@robertdickson6317 Жыл бұрын
It's all hearsay would not take any notice until nearer the time just my opinion
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely but the more people are aware the better as they may do a survey and people can put their views to them directly 😀
@2e0wsj
@2e0wsj Жыл бұрын
I think they should get rid of the 2E0 call sign and you Should automatically become an M0 I think that will make more people get the licence
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Would be nice 🤣👌
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
Is an intermediate licence really needed? I think not. Yes, give the intermediates a full licence as they're nearly there. It's supposed to be an electronics based hobby isn't it? How much effort does it take to know resistors in series and parallel? Surely we don't want to become glorified C.B. operators. Electronics is taught in schools these days. How easy do you want it? I did the old C&G exam and looked at my old paper online last year and wonder now how I passed it. I'd have to revise. You're talking about an exam being difficult now? So build something! I've had 40+ years building things and love it. Even simple things like a Pixie or resistive SWR meter interest me. What's wrong with 10 Watts? I've used nothing above 5 Watts for 30+ years, even down to 350 mW. 10 Watts to 50 is only one S point you know. G4GHB.
@patdbean
@patdbean Жыл бұрын
If they are going to get rid of the intermediate level, what happens to the power levels for the remaining levels? Do they stay at 10w and 400w? Because that is a hell of a gap. So increase foundation power level to say 20w giving them a bit more than a free CB licence. Do the existing intermediates get to stay at 50w?
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Who knows, things may not even change but they are looking into it, I think M6 should get 50w personally, 10w is a little low IMO, thanks for watching :)
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 Жыл бұрын
If they get rid of Intermediate level they should all get free Advanced. You can't be in a position where Intermediate level licensees have to take a step backwards to Foundation.
@patdbean
@patdbean Жыл бұрын
@@johnratcliffe6438 let's hope so, I am a 2E0. Do I get to keep my 2E0 call and 50w? Do I get an automic m0 m5 and 400w? Or is it a question of, pass the full exam by X date OR become an M7 with 10W?
@johnratcliffe6438
@johnratcliffe6438 Жыл бұрын
@@patdbean That would really suck to lose privileges you've earned 😔
@petersheldon3558
@petersheldon3558 9 ай бұрын
From the RSGB debate that was held online, Foundation will get 20W, Intermediate get 100W and Full get 1KW, they aren't doing away with the Intermediate just the 20 and 2E call signs, they will automatically reserve a new intermediate call sign with your existing suffix for a period of time, if you don't change they will cancel your old and issue new.
@frankbaron1608
@frankbaron1608 Жыл бұрын
get rid of exams altogether. replace them with time served and pracitcal demonstration.
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Not a bad idea 💡
@mindblast3901
@mindblast3901 Жыл бұрын
No that would make mockery of those who took exams
@frankbaron1608
@frankbaron1608 Жыл бұрын
@@mindblast3901 no it wouldn't it would be progesssion. just bcasue something was done in the past it doesn't make it right. besides. exams if used at all should be reserved for vocational qualifications, not for hobbies.
@mindblast3901
@mindblast3901 Жыл бұрын
@@frankbaron1608 That's like saying I can not do this it is too hard give me pass for no effort
@frankbaron1608
@frankbaron1608 Жыл бұрын
@@mindblast3901 who said there was no effort. there is effort in ham radio by definition. exams proove nothin other than people can cram and forget once they passed. claiming that exxams should be kept becuse ridding of them is disrectful to the people who passed them is the sam as saying doctors should still use leeches as not doig so is disrespectful to the doctos who did. the argument is falicious at best.
@g0ooq537
@g0ooq537 Жыл бұрын
Last week I sat a pottery course. For the life of me I just couldn't produce a pot that was useable - the rest of the students seemed to find it easy, making all manner of beautiful useable pots. The tutor was a lovely old boy, he could see how upsetting it was for me and felt sorry for me - truth be told I simply don't have the skill set to make a pot, the tutor obviously realised that. I came away from the course feeling really pleased with myself - although my pot resembled a dog turd, I recieved a pass certificate which now hangs proudly on my wall. The other students seemed angry about me being gifted my pottery qualification, but thats just sour grapes. Next week I'm enroling to become a Hang gliding Instructor....
@johngulliver6151
@johngulliver6151 Жыл бұрын
Nice Analogy
@G0ogs
@G0ogs Жыл бұрын
You always been potty Seamus
@frankhovis
@frankhovis Жыл бұрын
Congratulations!! You earn this weeks "Bigot of the airwaves" award for successfully discouraging new users. Enjoy your radio silence.
@johngulliver6151
@johngulliver6151 Жыл бұрын
@@frankhovis pathetic 😒
@g0ooq537
@g0ooq537 Жыл бұрын
@@frankhovis smell the coffee.
@drewbee6248
@drewbee6248 11 ай бұрын
I am M7 & 😆😆 mmmmm 50 watts on foundation sounds great to me , So when's it happening.. 73's sir
@DavidWood2
@DavidWood2 6 ай бұрын
Foundation licensees will be allowed 25W PEP on many bands when Ofcom updates the licences later in 2024.
@qwerty-cg7hv
@qwerty-cg7hv Жыл бұрын
The most cost effective thing that Ofcom could do is scrap amateur radio altogether in it's present form. Allow a couple of HF bands to remain, allow 2m to remain and scrap the rest. No licensing, be allowed to use only commercial equipment that is limited to 5W and let it go. i.e. give the people a glorified CB. Why should the tax payer have to pay good money to support a minority hobby that, lets be honest, gives them very little if anything in return?
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Interesting point qwerty, I do worry about amateur radio in the long term if im honest. thanks for taking the time to comment and watch :)
@qwerty-cg7hv
@qwerty-cg7hv Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb It was said slightly tongue in cheek, but from Joe Publics point of view, why should the majority help support the minority? I'm not just thinking license fees here but also all of the time, effort, admin etc. that goes into allowing amateur radio to exist. How many other hobbies have this amount of government finance put into them?
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
What does it cost the taxpayer? All we have to do is re-register every five years. Hardly draining money from Ofcom. With your suggestion it might as well be all C.B. Then I'd give up. It would destroy it as a hobby for me. I like building stuff and that's where the electronics comes in, testing things and knowing how to set things up properly, unlike C.B. I built receivers in my teens and my building continues to this day.with a Pixie recently. G4GHB.
@qwerty-cg7hv
@qwerty-cg7hv 5 ай бұрын
@@bill-2018 It costs in staff time to investigate any interference complaints, both by and against amateurs, it costs in admin time etc. It's just one more thing to take resources that doesn't provide an income, but does have its users expect a decent service, they get a lot more than they pay for!! :-) Apart from the enthusiasts, you and I sound as if we come into that bracket, a very large number of amateurs do treat it as a glorified CB, I was talking to one guy recently who was describing his many thousands of pounds of kit and then said that he was planning on buying a soldering iron, sometime, so that he could fit his own PL259 plugs, rather than having to buy ready made leads! All good fun and each to his own.... :-)
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
@@qwerty-cg7hv Still not a huge cost to run it. Have you or anyone you know had an interference complaint by them or against them involving Ofcom? I'd say it's very few and a fraction of what Ofcom do. No neighbour of mine in 33 years has even asked what these wires in the sky are so I guess there's no interference caused by me. Modern equipment is not like the old crap which was open to everything. I'd say in those days the G.P.O. had more investigations than Ofcom does now. I know several people, including myself who had the G.P.O. involved. Are we attracting the right people if they see it as glorified C.B.? Perhaps they have taken up the wrong hobby and should have gone on C.B. and become a radio expert overnight instead of taking a radio exam which involves various things including basic electronics. That's it, basic electronics, not degree level. You propose a couple of h.f. bands and 2m so everything else goes? U.H.F., microwaves, optical communication, m.w. and l.f. communication all gone? Everybody on 5 Watts, a lot of people would not be happy with that. Commercial equipment only? My h/b s.s.b./c.w. tcvr scrapped? I choose to run nothing above 5 Watts as a challenge to get the best out of my set up using limited power. I gave up 100 Watts 40 years ago. If you want a glorified C.B. system why are you even on amateur radio? G4GHB.
@LesHopgood-rf1ic
@LesHopgood-rf1ic Жыл бұрын
I disagree Matt I like you struggled taking my full call with two fails the time and effort put in to pass my full exam was tuff why should it be given to intermediates surely like me it has to be earnt
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Hiya Les good to hear from you mate! I'm not gunna lie I'm way way out of my depth even the current intermediate I struggle with, I have all the new books and I keep trying and won't give up trying to learn but it's unbelievably difficult for me. Some people are just not technically minded and learning isn't my strong point. Especially reading from a book 😭 like I say I'll never give up but get you down when your reading and reading and nothing sinks in. Appreciate you taking the time to comment bud 🙌
@bill-2018
@bill-2018 5 ай бұрын
You could argue that about c.w. when G8 call holders could only use 2m and above then the c.w. requirement removed for shipping and amateurs followed. The idea was as I understand it if a ship was in distress we could read the c.w. distress call and notify the authorities. S.s.b. took over and replaced c.w. G4GHB.
@ZzedZed
@ZzedZed Жыл бұрын
no polite way to put this, you have the most restrictions, because you know bugger all about the technicalities involved nor do you have any interest in learning! if you are capable of rational thought, consider these, a driving license and a gun license. if your restrictions were dropped , what might happen?
@johnyouel3124
@johnyouel3124 10 ай бұрын
hi m7 to 2e0 is very hard tex said
@dannybleachflower8628
@dannybleachflower8628 Жыл бұрын
Interesting … especially some of the comments from G nowts
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see all those in favour of the new 'proposed' licence changes are only the ones who it benefits, those who can't be bothered to try to progress.. usually the same idiots who scream 'CB has 12w why should we only have 10w' clearly showing the world they have no intelligence with such stupid remarks and don't deserve the licence they hold..!! those against the changes are those who have worked hard to get their licence and see no benefit from it, so yet again give to those who don't want to earn it, foundation and intermediate, especially the embarrassment to the hobby M3's, i mean how long do you need an M3 before you think about progressing ?? or maybe you're too thick to..
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Who gives a toss quite frankly 😉 it's a hobby and if people want to stay on foundation then what's the issue? Why do they have to progress? The full licence is a bit investment of time and energy, if people just want to have a chit chat every now and then I don't see any reason to progress. There's more to life than ham radio 😁
@bigpimp347
@bigpimp347 Жыл бұрын
@@m6ceb If you want a chit chat buy a CB... clearly Amateur Radio isn't for everyone and if they don't want to progress or actually learn something apart from how to key a mic and press an ATU button, just buy a CB..
@RedNeckSurgeyTech
@RedNeckSurgeyTech Жыл бұрын
What is Ofcom?
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Ofcom is the UK licencing body 👍
@moormoor4281
@moormoor4281 Жыл бұрын
All HF band's and all power's.....
@adamap2796
@adamap2796 Жыл бұрын
No they are not.
@stevegill1731
@stevegill1731 Жыл бұрын
Wow, l "et's make all the intermediates full licensees" and let's do away with any testing for that matter. So foundation goes from 10 watts to 50w. No offence m8 but you say the full license is beyond your capabilities so your suggestion above makes sense for you. Of course you know that's not going to happen. I tend to agree on the resistors colour codes ect but to be honest it's not exactly rocket science and your only likely to get one question on it if at all. Good luck with it all and if you want that repeater badly enough you will do the work and pass that full license test.
@pedroorby
@pedroorby Жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with you. M7JMJ
@batwillow
@batwillow Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to have seen a novice licence only use VHF/UHF on full power, which would bring back more usage of those bands and allow them 15w on HF on the 15m, 12m, and 10m bands, as for the intermediates allow them full access but restrict to 100w HF and full licence holders to increase power levels up to 500w. 73 de G1YYU
@m6ceb
@m6ceb Жыл бұрын
Very good points Bat! Hopefully things will change for the better, we will have to wait and see :) thanks for watching and commenting :) 73
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