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Off Grid Solar - Tesla Solar Tracker 5 EX - Look inside & Review

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Mandala man

Mandala man

7 жыл бұрын

A look inside the Tesla Chargers - Solar Tracker 5 Ex and quick review.
Here is a video by the manufacturer explaining how these charger controllers work and what makes them different from any other solar charge controller on the market:
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@DavyOneness
@DavyOneness 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, it was very helpful in my research with working on figuring this out. I would be interested in knowing what the part numbers are on the semiconductors and that IC to help confirm some understandings I have. Your question about what was on top of the heatsinks, the three components wired together, those are bridge rectifiers that he is only using half of the diodes on the positive side in parallel instead of one big diode to protect the electronics from being hooked up with the polarities reversed which will cause damage to the panel and electronics.He was in the audio electronics business for decades and probably had a big box of those bridge rectifiers to use instead of spending a lot on one large diode in the beginning, but you can see in one of his videos they eventually used just one large diode instead. Your other question was about the brown stuff on the terminals and if that was from over heating. That is just left over soldering flux from when the buss wires were soldered on, it is completly normal to see in electronics and has nothing to do with over heating of a heat sink like you think.
@DavyOneness
@DavyOneness 3 жыл бұрын
One more thing, if you want to mount to wall, you could remove the feet off the bottom of the unit and use those holes to screw to wall, or to screw to a larger metal plate, so that the plate then screws into the wall holding the unit.
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
Here is a video by the manufacturer (Tesla Chargers) explaining how these charge controllers work and what makes them different from any other solar charge controller on the market: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a5yJeKmUqcDSXWQ.html and another video explaining what all of the components on the inside are: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r59jfNqZtK27cmg.html
@darthragnareinarsonn3181
@darthragnareinarsonn3181 3 жыл бұрын
How good has the unit worked so far?. Any updates for us?.
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon 7 жыл бұрын
thats a rough a***d way to use (40 amp) bridge rectifiers... the're made for ac to rectification and it looks in that setup they are using them as blocking diodes with 2 of the 4 diodes in each pack being wired in parallel, and then 3 packs in parallel , so you effectively have 6 diodes linked up. But... they heat figures and amp ratings are not for continuous dc steering, so they may be getting a little warm, the staining you can see on the solder is from where they have got so hot the flux in the solder came to the surface. they should be using schottky diodes,.. the gubbins on the sides of the heatsink are no doubt ''mosfet switching transistors'' to regulate charge / cut power / on / off etc
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Lez, Yeah the charge controller got pretty hot when the fan failed so staining must be from that. It does get quite hot anyway which they obviously know which is why there is the massive heat sink. thanks for your comment and the info!!
@lezbriddon
@lezbriddon 7 жыл бұрын
The heat is from the inefficient use of those bridge diode packs, but they should last year's. You can pass your solar charge current through them all day. At the cost of it I'm interested on what they're doing with it as from what I have seen so far it's looking like an older design beefed up for larger panels
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
yeah dunno, they have some very different theories on how things should work at tesla chargers and from what I can tell their battery rejuvenators are very good. So if they can get batteries back from the dead you would think they would know how to charge them well. Only time will tell. Have you heard of John Bedini's work before or did you just come across my video by chance? here is their website if you havent heard about them before: teslachargers.com/ thanks again!
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
So far so good and only time will tell so Im going to ride it out. It only uses 1 amp to run. I will run some tests when the PIP is up and running. then we can see what kind of a job it is doing compared to an mppt. Everyone raves about mppt, but in my situation and climate I dont see any real benefit. It may be able to get more out of the panels in the morning and the evenings and on cloudy days, but seeing as I generally dont get more than a couple of cloudy days in a row (average of 300+ sunny days a year here), my batteries are generally full before 12:00, I have full sun and no shading on my panels, I dont see how its going to make much of a difference. As i said in the video, the people that designed this charge controller have a different view on how batteries should be charged which is why it charges in this way. thanks for your comments and all of your videos. I think if I ever build another system I will go with a lithium bank.
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
what are the signs that I am overcharging my bank? How will it kill it?
@xanataph
@xanataph 7 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how it performs in the long term. I don't think your batteries are being boiled to s#*t but keep an eye on the fluid levels if they continue to slightly bubble all day. One thing that is particularly good is that components in the controller can be easily replaced if anything goes wrong. A local Radio & TV guy should be able to easily handle that should the need arise. MPPT is seriously over-rated. It has the most effect when you get a cool sunny morning and the batteries are particularly low. Contrary to the commonly held belief, MPPT has no real advantage on cloudy days, as the maximum power point voltage of a solar panel becomes close to the ideal battery charging voltage anyway.
@xanataph
@xanataph 7 жыл бұрын
I do wonder why they used the parallel bridge rectifiers as the blocking diode? Too hard to get large Schottky diodes perhaps? Worst case scenario though is if there is 80 amps flowing then the diode bank would be dissipating between 80-120 watts of heat. And you would have the better part of 1500 watts of solar panels to cause this, so in the grand scheme of things, although it is a significant loss, it's not *overly significant*.
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
yeah, so far so good but the battery bank is very young so time will tell. Im of the same opinion about mppt, its probably an update in technology respects but in my situation I really dont think it would make much of a difference. ALso the downside of having panels running in series with shading etc... Im planning on making a data logger so that we can get a better glimpse of the charge profile. Hopefully I will have that done this summer.
@Mandalaman
@Mandalaman 7 жыл бұрын
the "free energy" crowd are big fans of bridge rectifiers. I have so far been able to put close to my rated solar power (2400w) through the unit with few losses but will know more once I get my system monitor up. thanks for your comment!
@adamkuklych6672
@adamkuklych6672 7 жыл бұрын
The one thing MPPT does do that PWM cannot, is take (in my case) around 75V from the panels and convert that to voltage my batteries can handle. This means I do not need to run such heavy duty wire from the panels to the controller. Usually when it is cloudy here it is also cool so the MPPT seems to take advantage of that, when I compared the Victrons directly with a good quality PWM controller there were a good solid few amps of difference between the 2. As with all things, results vary depending on location/situation/setup/equipment/goodness knows what else to factor in here lol...
@xanataph
@xanataph 7 жыл бұрын
@Mandala man: Yeah I have noticed that. :) Although in the case of your charge controller they are not being used as bridges, rather they are taking advantage of the fact there are two diodes in each unit that can be paralleled to make one big one! And they have done that three times, so there's some pretty decent current capacity there. Although, if you parallel two diodes there is no guarantee that they will share current equally. But being closely bonded together in the rectifier block probably tends to mitigate that to some degree.
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