Gotta be honest, Canon is killing it, the R8 is such a good priced camera for the technology it offers. 👏👏

Nikone Z9 user here, and I have to admit it: Canon is killing it. Well done!!!

As a Canon user for a decade who switched to Sony 2 years ago, I have to say I've never lost faith in Canon cameras. I was priced out of their lenses. I can't justify the premium of Canons lenses or GM for that matter when the Sigma art line exists.

What's MIND BLOWING is the pro 1DX mark 3 has a 20.1MP sensor (same as the R6 mark 1) and that camera still sells for $6,500!! That one also has no IBIS, and a slower autofocusing system. Now you can buy a better camera than that (basically what Peter McKinnon started his whole career with [1dx mk2]) for an absolute fraction of the cost with so much more!! I love that the R8 is light and easy carry, and I won't be too scared to take it out on every day occasions. Buying one to replace my R6 mark 1 as I just shoot for fun.

I think it’s worth mentioning that if you want the dual card slots, ibis, better battery and joystick, but at the same price point, you have have the r7 as a fantastic option

Love the EVF montage - it's probably the most accurate way to see how the camera performs in real-world scenarios

I’m a Sony shooter, but I recently bought an m6 mk 2 as my EDC camera. I love that little thing. It’s a ton of fun to shoot with. I understand why Canon is effectively killing the EF-M line, but I wish they would have released a few more lenses for it, particularly some higher end telephoto lenses.

We're at a point to where all of the major cameras out right now are great in most situations (low light, DR, etc...) that it's less about image quality and more about features and price. The main limitation in shooting is always the shooter

I agree, R8 is probably a bigger deal for Canon than R6 ii, which I just bought. This is an excellent camera to start with FF. A $1000 put in a better lens will give much better quality photos than a better body would do, especially when the sensor and AF are the same.

Honestly, I'm looking to buy a camera that does everything well, i thought the R50 would be a solid upgrade over an iPhone, but looking at that sample vlog you showed, i think my money would be better invested on a R8 when i can afford it

Thanks Jared for the video. After seeing the difference between full auto and manual on the R50, I think a video of Dan/Stephen giving video quick tips would be interesting. I have a R7 mainly for stills and I wouldn’t mind upgrading the quality footage of my videos🙃.

I’ll be really interested in your R7 vs R8 comparison as I’m looking to upgrade from a SL3 but still want to use my mix of EF and EF-S lenses and upgrade them over time. It would be great to know which direction to go in.

Every beginner photographer should be grabbing the R8 as fast as humanly possible and investing in high end glass for the future. That R8 is INSANE.

The R8 is just too good, it's simply way to good for this price point.

The R6 (not mk2) is pretty much the same price as this R8 now in the UK. In my opinion the R6 is also a better and more professional camera. I am looking on buying. Any reason you'd buy the R8 over the R6? The R8 is newer but doesn't seem as good after watching this video and looking at specs. Cheers :)

Hi, first time seeing your work, I was researching the Canon R50 and found you. TERRIFIC content, very helpful, concise and well presented, thank you for making this!

A first party battery grip with pogo pins, and vertical shutter, would be a great addition to this camera. Especially if it worked on both cameras.

Canon are getting it so right lately. The only issue Canon ever really had was lagging Sony on their mirrorless range. Canon was always top-dog with lens availability and overall usability (an underrated item). Currently I'm OK with my 6D and M50 but the amazing eye-detect focus may make me upgrade, for portrait work. It means you can just chat to the subject, taking photos, without even looking at your camera.

Hmmm, When Nikon released it's extended battery grip for the Z6/7, you made a huge deal about being worthless because it did not have any shutter release buttons. On the new Canon, their grip is just a place to put your pinky finger and you are ok with that?

R8 - one card slot, extra grip with no real function... I have deja vu.. (Nikon Z6, Z7 - but different judgement :D ) - sorry for that! =)

Nice job boys on getting all this info out so fast! I'm very happy to see the lower price point as it should send a shock wave to the others!

I feel like the quirky settings in the R50 is geared towards cellphone photographers that want something more dedicated but simple to them

I have the R5 and R6, this R8 is an EXCELLENT choice for anyone that cant or doesn't want to spend the money on the others. The image quality is excellent.

the prohibition of 3rd party lenses from the RF mount is a deal breaker especially since the kit lens is too tight for vlogging

Didn’t even see this coming 👀🔥🔥🔥

So should I go for the R8 or buy the Canon R from my friend for $500 or just get the R5 as my original plan once my tax return comes in March. I shoot portraits outdoor/indoor , Events parties , weddings. And a lot of action events. Sport games car racing etc

I have an RP, financially sound like the R8 is the one for me. Great job with the specs

What is about battery life issue ???

I have a bunch of M mount lenses for my M50 for travel and hiking. Why would Canon abandon this line and force us to move to their RF line? The M series were very much capable. I have taken some of my best landscape pictures because of its portability and size. I would hate to carry a heavier camera on a 3 day backpacking trip.

Love your videos! Thanks for reviewing the R8. Is the sensor exposed when a lens is off or does it have a retractable barrier to protect the shutter when swapping lenses?

I like how your pages of notes are entirely highlighten (and not just some words or phrases) :D Other than that, my only rant is that they didn't add the joystick to the R8 (though the upper low-end APS-C R10 has it), but it's understandable, as the level of convenience that that device brings can change the perception of the camera.

Sony needs to drop an a7c II now.

As a student looking to make the jump to full-frame from my Canon 1300d of nearly 6 years, this seems like a god-send.

What's that small monitor on top of the camera? It looks nifty and make shooting a lot easier to visualize. Thanks in advance! 😊

I’ve recently started my photographic journey proper this year with my investment into a Nikon Z5 + 24-70 f/4 S. It was £1350 for the pair in the Jan sales. Coming from a D200, I’m over the moon. It’s good to see Canon hitting with the lower end high performing stills cameras since their is a large majority of us who do not care for video.

Do you guys shoot C-Log or C-Log3 on the R5 for these videos?

thanks so much Jared. I just discovered this camera today. I still have an old Sony rx100 ii which is lovely for its size but would be nice to step up. I can afford the new r50 when it's available. I enjoy traveling to parks (national and otherwise) and would like to have a good camera for video of my jazz group where a good mic can also be used.

do you prefer a v90 to use with the R8 or will a v60 work?

I see the R50 as the "cheap" vlogger camera and the R8 as the "RP Mk2" and somewhat the higher end, more capable vlogger camera. The fact that IBIS is missing means you dont get the IBIS wobble at all, and digital stabilizer + RF lens stabe on the RF 35 or 24 does its job great

Canon R50/R10 + R8 + R5 or not, with good quality RF lenses, and you've a professional setup. Unlike Sony and Nikon who majorly ignores APS-C line-up, who doesn't have entry level affordable full frame unless you go a generation old which feels decade older in current camera tech, with the Z5 or A7C, R8 is a beast. I would switch to R8 as soon as it drops to the market and invest in RF lenses. With R50/R10, I'm getting Sigma 18-35 f/1.8 and 50-100 f/1.8 until they make those two lenses for RF mount.

Jared, you are mistaken, while the R8 has the MENU item for "Tap to select Subject to detect" and you stated the R6 mkii does not... this isn't accurate. The R6mkii can set and use the "Touch & drag AF settings" to ON and use the screen OR you can use the Joystick to Jump from subject to subject automatically without having another menu item.... it just WORKS TWO ways in the R6mkii.

I was waiting for this R50 as a replacement for my M50 so I could share lenses with my R6. I don't know what I was expecting but I'm pretty disappointed with what we got. Might just pick up an RP instead.

Jared, please do a sports photography test för the R8 comparing it with the R7 and R6. I'm stuck deciding between the R7 or R6, and this could be a perfect match between these two. The things I am mostly worried about is the mechanical shutter on the R8, the warping with the electronic shutter for sports is just unacceptable for my taste. The other thing is the lack of IBIS on the R8, how big is the difference without it in real world usage compared to the R7 and R6's IBIS. Thanks in advance!

I started my business out of the RP and I was wondering when the RP mark II will come out . Well now I have my answer the R8 is the RP mark II and sincerely I would give word by word the same piece of advice to the community. If you are starting your path into the pro world and you are in budget invest on the R8, good glass and good speed light. As for me today I reached a level that I need (outside of the studio) the duel SD slot? And the SD slot being on the side, and the bigger batteries.

At 14:00 with the image stabilization issue of NO IBIS in the body itself of the R8, that actually really SHOULDN'T MATTER as the camera is light enough that you can use those cheap $70 Amazon Special camera stabilization systems that just use a fancy weight on an inexpensive gimbal joint to keep the camera steady. I used that cheap gimbal on an RP and it worked just fine! Completely smooth and steady shot even with cars whizzing by and the shaking of bridges. Ironically, I have access to EVERYTHING on the market I could ever want (i.e. 1Dx3, Arri-FF, Sony Venice, In-house 16K, etc) BUT I like my old M5 and the RP the best for my personal work when I have no room to keep a big camera with me. I also use a fancy 64 Megapixel smartphone and a 120 megapixel smartphone and those are starting to catch up to even the bigger cameras. I would like to see a Canon M5 style camera combined with a full touchscreen Android smartphone back! I don't care if it's a full inch or more thick! Just give me the biggest APS-C Canon sensor possible on a smartphone with ALL the smartphone features and calling/internet/gaming abilities we take for granted! It will sell like hotcakes when they do that! I do know APPLE is working on a monster-size APS-C sensor smartphone that looks like it's using a 48 Megapixel Sony Exmor RS APS-C sensor for best daylight image quality and pixel binning for STUPENDOUS 24 megapixel super-low-light capable images, so Canon better get cooking! Apple personnel have secretly said they can keep the phone to less than 10 mm thick using some focal plane manipulation using photosite-based micro-lens trickery on the FIRST APS-C sensor in a smartphone! Other people in smartphone engineering circles have said Apple may have a second line of high end imaging-oriented smartphone used for different purposes much like Canon's old-style 1Dx versus 1Dc line where one line was stills and the other for cinema. Apple LOOKS LIKE it may do the same by having one smartphone line for "Normal" iPhones and another line for the video / cinematographers and still photo experts that have high megapixels (i.e. greater than 120 megapixels!) and/or much larger image sensor sizes (i.e. APS-C). V

I love my m6 mark ii. Can’t see enough from either of these to move into the RF quite yet but the R8 & R7 do seem awesome. Some day. Some day. 🤷‍♂️

Hello Jared Fans. I need your crowd smarts: I’m not a beginner, not a pro either. Not yet anyway. I mainly shoot portraits, some landscape and street as a hobby. Currently with an original R, invested in some nice glass the last years. Now it’s time to upgrade the body. My main issue with the R is the very slow AF. I can get a R6 (not the M2) or the R8 for roughly the same price. What do I do? Is the original R6 still an upgrade to the new R8?

Hmmm, after watching some other reviews I couldn’t find a reason for adding the R8 to my gear bag, but now after watching your review and highlighting some other things they didn’t or perhaps didn’t explain in detail I’m think I might have a need to add this to my bag of tricks! 😊 Thanks!

Just ordered this camera to upgrade from the RP. Love the video, but I wouldn’t told that guy to remove that whole laptop he had in his back pocket 😂 working on doing photos with people soon and moving away from landscape for a bit so hopefully the R8 will work well for me.

I wonder if the touch to focus thing will trickle up to the R6 II with a firmware update. I'd hope so.

Whileas the Sensor & AF system from the R6 II is no doubt being excellent, also max 40fps for action, it comes with drawbacks also : 1) substandard EVF into 2023+ (2.36 mill dots, x0.7 magnification ratio EVF - clearly 2013/14 A7/II alike) 2) missing IBIS ! 3) mediocre battery life - best you put 3 or 4 to shoot over a day. 4) Price germany: 1799 EUR body only, 1999 EUR with Kitlens !

Jared why not just buy some yellow paper. That will save you highlighting it all!

thanks to both for the production value of this trip

Damn! If I had known this full-frame R8 was coming, no I would not have bought the R10.

That ending... 🤣

Where is the joystick??

So basically compared to the Z5, if you need the best AF the R8 smokes it. However, the Z5 still has IBIS so it’s probably better for more static shots?

I'm a landscape photographer who is still using an EOS-R. I didn't go to the R6 because I didn't want to lose 10mp, especially when i often have to crop.. I was intrigued when the R6MkII came out, and it's still on my radar. I love the R, and the only things that are making me even consider a new body is HDR and IBIS. When shooting HDR with the R, you have a long "Busy" message while the camera is processing the images, during which you can't do anything. I've used an R6, and the HDR processing in it is almost instantaneous. Mark one up for the R6/R6Mkii. I would like to have IBIS, which the R6/R6Mkii have, and the R8 does not. Not a deal breaker on getting the R8, but it's a thing. So, do I plunk down $1500 for an R8, or $2500 for the R6Mkii? The deal breaker for the R8 is the battery. I spend a lot of time in the field, so I may change batteries many times during a day long shoot, and to make that possible, I have 5 batteries for the R, that will also work on the R6/R6 ii. I don't want a lower capacity battery, and I don't want to have to buy 4 or 5 new batteries. Sorry, but the R8 is out for me, and it's a shame...

I would love to make the switch but wont even consider it until they open up to 3rd party lenses. My Sony A7IV is fantastic and the lens options are more than i would ever need as an enthusiast. True professionals, Canon all the way, you cant deny how they are killing it these days.

It’s okay Jared, I’m a Z FC shooter and I want Nikon to catch up with its autofocus. Hopefully Nikon can update their current Z cameras to be closer to the Z9

Great video, I like r8 but this little battery 🔋 I can’t understand.

I'm a hobbyist. I'm planning to upgrade from 77d to R7 but with the intro of R8 I'm so confused. More features of R7 like IBIS, dual card slot vs R8 full frame. My current lens are Tamron 70-200 f2.8 G2 and Tamron 35mm f1.4.

I just sold my RP I needed a bit more this would’ve been perfect though lol these are dope. That R50 mode is probably for someone who wants to learn manual but not really sure where to start.

I live in the Charleston area and love shooting at Magnolia Plantation. I have an annual membership and go often. The old rice field is a great place to get shots of wading birds, eagles, and gators. I had to laugh at the deer and pig. They used to have a food dispenser that you could get a small amount of food to give to the critters. They had to stop because they were being overfed. Unfortunately, they also have learned to associate people with food handouts and can still get pretty aggressive looking for food. My daughter had a deer try and eat part of her camera bag. At least it wasn't one of the gators.

No IBIS is never gonna be your issue if you just use a gimbal.

So CANON got up today and decided to disappoint us TWICE. R8 - 6fps in Electronic First Curtain , Small Battery , No IBIS R50 - Worst Rolling Shutter. Canon again playing number games and crippling cameras as always.

The smaller battery was a dumb move on Canon's part. I can see for the R50, but not the R8. One card slot, small battery, and a below par EVF makes it a deal breaker for me. Add the fact that Canon has not announced any plans to allow 3rd party lenses and you have a "too little, too late" problem that Sony can easily solve should they come out with an entry level full frame model.

This is a great review of two cameras. All of the reviews I've seen of the R8 are basically hating on it. 😂 Jared actually took into consideration that there's newcomers into this market which is why I'm getting one. Not all of us are pros and these types of videos are great for us!

@Jared Polin Great review! Thank you! One thought to add…. You mentioned several times, what Canon needed to leave out to reduce cost. There is another factor SIZE! I shoot with the R5. My wife shoots with the RP. Not because of cost, but physical size for her smaller hands. Something to keep in mind for the differently handed. :-) We will definitely be upgrading her to the R8 as soon as we can get it! Thanks again for the review - especially the physical comparisons to the RP!

Even with 2 extra batteries and getting a DJI RS3 for lack of ibis, you're still saving over $500 over the R6 ii. That's some money towards some good glass. I think it's great 👍

Canon put the best AF system, sensor and electronic shutter into an R8 and sell it for $1499. The last camera I can remember with such good value was Sony a7iii in 2018.

Can't wait to see the comparison between the R7 & R8. I've been using 7D Mk II to shoot skateboarding since 2015

Good job Canon. I'm looking forward to this weeks RAW talk for sure. I do hope Nikon puts out some new bodies soon with better AF, us Nikon users deserve for Nikon to catch up.

I am looking to get into photography so I want something semi decent. My budget is around 800-900 pounds. Can push a bit more if it’s a close call for something that is much better for a 100/200 pounds or so more. I have been looking at the Sony zv-e10. The canon r50 or sony a6000. Or the Nikon d7500. So much choice it’s very confusing. Did have a look if you had a vid for best budget ish cam in 2023 to start with. Want something that is good so I stick with it. Hence the price point. Cause if I go for this price point I have to stick with it coz a 1000 is a lot for something I haven’t done before but I’m up for it. Thank you for any replies

If I am getting into Sports photography is it worth that extra money to get the R6 Mark ii over the R8 to get the mechanical shutter instead of just the electronic? I am upgrading from a Canon Rebel, so either of these will be much better than that. Just curious on your thoughts on that for sports?

I was convinced I was going to get the R50 (I am the definition of the target audience for it) but the video quality has really put me off. Any alternatives in the same price bracket?

It would've been cool to get this, but I honestly don't have the budget for it, I got an A7iii instead, and this was awhile back. I bought mine used because I can't even afford a new one, so I definitely couldn't afford an R8 and even less likely find a used one when it hasn't even released, but I love my A7iii, and maybe after a couple more shoots I'll have enough money to buy an R8.

lmao, "what ever it is, figure it out. This is how they're doing it." 🤣

seems nice but I wouldn’t use it for professional work. I wouldn’t risk the only one card slot. Maybe as a b cam and a travel/leisure cam.

IBIS & dual card slots are a big deal in particular when shooting in low light and when you can’t afford a memory card fail if your shooting for money. The Nikon z5 has both and is cheaper

No ibis. Single card slot. Fairly hard then for wedding photography 😅

There are so many options of Canon R cameras. I think the only remaining issue is no 3rd party lenses. Sony and Nikon need to put out something new soon.

Wow, this was unexpected. I’ve be shooting on the Canon M6 mark ii for a while now and I’ve wanted to upgrade to full frame but couldn’t afford a R5 or R6 and the R and RP are actually worse cameras than the M6ii. The R8 is the camera I’ve been waiting for, this looks awesome

Considering the R6MkII is a camera which will better meet the needs of non-professionals for years to come it would be a better long term value than the R8, that is of course if you could find the R6MkII at B&H and other major retailers. I’ve been waiting to buy one for over a month now. A few days ago B&H showed it arriving on 2/14 but now it the status is backordered.

I bought the EOS R when it came out. I love the 30 mp sensor. I don't know why. but smaller sensors annoy the hell out of me.

What would you recommend for someone looking to upgrade from a 7D MK1 (and have a lot of glass to suit already). While I am only serious amateur, doing portraits & landscapes & I like to get creative. I also use the camera for doing photo shoots & build stories on customers cars (modified/race etc). And do shoot car shows & motorsports. Also keep in mind, I am in Australia, so prices are vastly different.

GREAT Video! Thanks! I shoot with the Canon R5. I still have my 5D Mark IV as my backup, so I still need to hang on to all my EF lenses. After watching your R8 review, I am thinking maybe I should get the R8 as my backup camera instead of buying another R5 as a backup. What do you think? I am only nervous about having only one memory slot. But if the R8 is my backup camera in the event, the R5 fails it's probably worth the risk. And the R8 takes up so little space!! What do you think?

I won’t go back to Canon after both brand new R6 mk1 bodies died on their first days use of Error 70. Also, the footage I did get from the R6 with a 24-105 L f4 IS lens was nowhere near as good as the Sony A7C. And the Sony was set to 1920x1080 25Mb 50fps (pretty much it’s lowest quality setting). I sent both Canons back and bought three A7C with kit lenses plus a Sony 24-105 f4 G OSS lens forcthe primary body on a Crane 2 gimbal. Wedding videos.

Canon should release the original battery grip. I use a spare battery grip 3D printing, I can record video for long hours !!! but Canon RP does not show power consumption, which is usually a problem with video.

i am excited fro the R50's release. Quite sad as i bought the M50 just 2 years ago however this is all a part of development. Looking forward to the real world review

The Nikon Z5 is still a better option for photography at that price range. Dual card slots, WR, bigger EVF, IBIS.

I currently have the EOS RP and was thinking of getting the R8. I am in no way a professional I am an average joe taking photos at disneyland and so on. Would it be an upgrade in your opinion? And Would you upgraded from the RP? TIA

Thanks! How are the colors on this camera for video? Are they the same as the Canon R5 out of camera?

Please tell me the R8 is made in japan and not outsourced to philippines or wherever ..

for now the limited choice of lens is a big barrier to buy the rf system. hope canon make a 10-22mm lens for aps-c and open their mouth for 3rd party lens

I have m6 mark ii because of your review before 3years ago... But now want to buy this eos r version😅😅😅 Is it worth it to change??

quick question ... I am just getting back into photography and I think the R8 is a perfect start, however ... I've always loved sigma lenses. Have you done a review on the Sigma FP or FP L?

Would you consider this an upgrade for someone who has the original EOS R and does primarily photography??

I shoot basketball, portraits (studio) and events. I currently have a Canon 77d and was looking to upgrade to the R6 (I cannot afford the R6 II). Now that I see the R8, I think it makes more sense than the R6, am I wrong? I wouldn't use IBS because I shoot at 1/1000 for basketball and otherwise I use studio lights.

I can't believe the R8 is $1,500. I have watched every video/article thinking it's a mistake lol. Excited to humor into full frame with it.