Jim Cornette Reviews Who Killed WCW? Episode 4

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10 күн бұрын

From Episode 539 of the Jim Cornette Experience
Artwork by Travis Heckel!
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@louis3141
@louis3141 8 күн бұрын
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that Russo needs to be on camera
@mrowley7300
@mrowley7300 7 күн бұрын
I needed to win the world title bro Vince Russo..... probably
@asurlybarber3620
@asurlybarber3620 7 күн бұрын
If only Thurston Howell III had been tracking quarterly ratings when Russo put himself on TV. Worst case of "change the channel heat" I think I have ever seen.
@standardofexcellence
@standardofexcellence 7 күн бұрын
Or that vince didnt shit on people, hogan didn't have an ego
@maeschder
@maeschder 7 күн бұрын
Except no one was ever convinced of that... except Russo lol
@user-fj9nd8zv7h
@user-fj9nd8zv7h 7 күн бұрын
Even the devil wanted nothing to do with Russo, sent his ass to church 😂😂
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 8 күн бұрын
That's one of Travis' best artwork ever. Kudos!
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 7 күн бұрын
Even their heights are (fairly) accurate….. Wonderful attention to detail.
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 7 күн бұрын
@benjaminperez7328: This. LOL at Vince Russo as the cripple as well.
@roccojamison89gooker51
@roccojamison89gooker51 7 күн бұрын
@@benjaminperez7328 It's missing Dave Meltzer, Doug Dillinger, Brian Knobbs, and Jerry Flynn with an "F"
@mattmcadam5550
@mattmcadam5550 7 күн бұрын
Jamie Kellner was one PoS. He was responsible for cancelling WCW, Batman:The Animated Series, and The Animaniacs. He also said that if you went to the toilet during an ad break it's "the same as stealing." His passing was not mourned by me.
@asurlybarber3620
@asurlybarber3620 7 күн бұрын
I can't really blame Kellner for pulling the plug on WCW from a business standpoint, but killing Batman: The Animated Series was an unforgivable sin and may Kellner rot for that.
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 7 күн бұрын
@mattmcadam5550: Well said especially cancelling Batman: The Animated Series. That's the best Batman of all time. I fucking love that show.
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 7 күн бұрын
@asurlybarber3620: This. Batman: The Animated Series is the fucking best. My Batman collection pride and joy is Batman: The Animated Series especially Combat Belt Batman, a holy grail piece.
@crosstraffic
@crosstraffic 7 күн бұрын
He also ruined Pinky and the Brain by forcing the animation team to use Elmyra which changed the whole dynamic of the show.
@QuickManEXE
@QuickManEXE 7 күн бұрын
Wow.... i did not know that... so that case, screw Jamie Kellner.
@nolansyers
@nolansyers 8 күн бұрын
$65 Million in 2000 is equivalent to $118 Million in 2024. The inmates burned the asylum
@TheEvilways81
@TheEvilways81 6 күн бұрын
That wasn't on the inmates thats on Turner it was done purposely for a reason to get rid of WCW.
@jorgebarrera2165
@jorgebarrera2165 6 күн бұрын
That sounds like a challenge -Tony Khan
@nolansyers
@nolansyers 6 күн бұрын
@@TheEvilways81 It wasn't on Turner, it was on the people who ousted him of his own company.
@TheEvilways81
@TheEvilways81 6 күн бұрын
@@nolansyers when I said Turner I was referencing the whole company not Ted
@D-Fens_1632
@D-Fens_1632 5 күн бұрын
In the year 2000 I bought gas for under a dollar a gallon.
@wilcee238
@wilcee238 8 күн бұрын
The answer to “Who Killed WCW” is basically the ending of “Murder On The Orient Express” they all did.
@JimCornetteIsMyDad
@JimCornetteIsMyDad 8 күн бұрын
Pretty much yeah. I have to agree. Maybe a couple guys burned it down a little bit more and others, but they are all pretty much guilty. I still blame shitstain.
@LumpyAdams
@LumpyAdams 8 күн бұрын
More like the ending of every modern M Night movie, "who gives a sht anymore?"
@jeffknabb9593
@jeffknabb9593 8 күн бұрын
Noice reference. Very succinct and accurate
@tehslackerer83
@tehslackerer83 8 күн бұрын
that last episode felt like I was watching the movie Clue
@jisooisasumin2132
@jisooisasumin2132 8 күн бұрын
Wow I was planning to watch that movie. Thanks for the spoiler.
@mikejackson1003
@mikejackson1003 8 күн бұрын
Hogan's orange skin on that thumbnail is amazing 😂😂
@jsimsgt96
@jsimsgt96 8 күн бұрын
Yea brother!
@JunkyardJake618
@JunkyardJake618 8 күн бұрын
The original Orange Cassidy....😂
@rickydiehl6973
@rickydiehl6973 8 күн бұрын
Omfg!! I didnt actually notice that till I read your comment, that is absolutely hilarious!!! Lmfao 😂😂😂😂
@Forever_Thatter
@Forever_Thatter 8 күн бұрын
it's Corny trying to spite his next president
@JRacer85
@JRacer85 7 күн бұрын
"That doesn't work for me brother." 🤣
@prestonpfeiffer
@prestonpfeiffer 8 күн бұрын
The best lines of this entire docuseries were Kevin Nash in pt1: “THANKS FOR THE CASH🎬” and Bret Hart’s tirade on Idiots
@russellspear6188
@russellspear6188 8 күн бұрын
Nash has been terminally depressed ever since Scott Hall and then Kevin's son died. He never seems happy anymore. The only time he even smiles is if he says something sarcastic. He can't get excited or even enthusiastic about anything. That man could take his own life .
@southbeachtalent
@southbeachtalent 7 күн бұрын
​@@russellspear6188It doesn't help he has to do that horrible podcast with Sean Oliver. That would make anybody depressed
@RaytheMagician
@RaytheMagician 7 күн бұрын
Or when Nash said that after the Finger Poke or Doom, his check didn't change.
@EDorb
@EDorb 7 күн бұрын
​@@russellspear6188Yeah you can tell the spark is gone now, he's got none of that laid back humour to him anymore. Feel awful for the guy, he lost two of his best friends in as many years.
@j86485
@j86485 7 күн бұрын
@@southbeachtalent That podcast is so boring especially because Sean Oliver has the personality and charisma of dry paint
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 7 күн бұрын
Giving Ted Turner a chair with no vote is worse than kicking him out from every book I've read about the guy
@sc30002001
@sc30002001 7 күн бұрын
It was said that he was going to be Vice Chairman but they said fuck you at the last minute
@Boa_Omega
@Boa_Omega 8 күн бұрын
They let the inmates run the asylum. Letting wrestlers control the programming for everyone else. Shocker it did not work out.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 8 күн бұрын
Boy I can't see anyone being foolish enough to emulate such achievements.
@Michael-cz6ob
@Michael-cz6ob 8 күн бұрын
People have been saying that for nearly 25 years. So why do people still wanna keep hearing and talking about this same old rubbish over and over?
@VersaceVyper
@VersaceVyper 7 күн бұрын
Worked for Buddy Rogers back in the day and plenty of others, the executives at the top who didn't like wrestling are ultimately to blame for the death of the company, all the sh*t got past them because they didn't like wrestling.
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 7 күн бұрын
@@Michael-cz6ob Because it's happening again and people are "Wut happuned?!?"
@user-ye7md8lk1o
@user-ye7md8lk1o 7 күн бұрын
@@Boa_Omega that's the exact same thing we'll be saying about aew....
@Hellwolf36
@Hellwolf36 8 күн бұрын
My honest opinion is that it was a death of a thousand cuts brought on by several factors.
@Axs_Nice_Hair
@Axs_Nice_Hair 7 күн бұрын
Yes. Thank you for parroting what Kevin Sullivan said in the first two minutes of the series.
@jesterr7133
@jesterr7133 8 күн бұрын
WCW was charging $50 in the 90s. My friends and I used to throw in and watch them at a different person's house every month.
@Skibbitypappappa
@Skibbitypappappa 7 күн бұрын
Brad & Steve verified this story
@KingNerdius6993
@KingNerdius6993 7 күн бұрын
My dad and his friends did the same recorded them on vhs i had bags of tapes and vhs up until about 3 years ago i could have never afforded to put those all on discs and now with streaming it wouldnt havent mattered
@thesupervisor3270
@thesupervisor3270 6 күн бұрын
I had the cheata box so I didn’t pay for a PPV from late 96-00 for all 3 companies (WCW, WWF and ECW) only thing I regret was not tapping the PPV’s
@comradecrimsonsmaidenporiu8766
@comradecrimsonsmaidenporiu8766 6 күн бұрын
Yep remember vividly. 50 bucks a show was standard. IIRC even Tyson/Holyfield was 50 bucks
@AZK91
@AZK91 6 күн бұрын
​@KingNerdius6993 I reckon you're better off putting them on to discs or storage, what with this censoring culture we're living in
@KennyA09
@KennyA09 8 күн бұрын
The "Usual Suspects" artwork is great.
@bloodeagle6458
@bloodeagle6458 8 күн бұрын
They also left out how they put Jay Leno to head one of there PPVs😮😂😂
@RaytheMagician
@RaytheMagician 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, Jim Ross said that when Jay Leno put an arm bar on Hulk Hogan, that's when the business went down the tubes. (To be fair, Kevin Eubanks did a pretty decent version of the Diamond Cutter! 😁)
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
It still got over 350k PPV buys, which means it's in their top 10
@JerryWShields
@JerryWShields 8 күн бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson: “After long and careful consideration, I’ve decided…it was all of them. Good Night.”
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 8 күн бұрын
Correct answer my friend
@CarlosMedina-wu8ug
@CarlosMedina-wu8ug 8 күн бұрын
And on that note......
@mrowley7300
@mrowley7300 7 күн бұрын
*guitar stars playing*
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 7 күн бұрын
Props on the Clarkson quote
@ITIS2000MAN
@ITIS2000MAN 3 күн бұрын
Too right. Ask Clarkson. Clarkson knows.
@mrowley7300
@mrowley7300 8 күн бұрын
I can't wait for the "who killed AEW" show where everyone blames Punk 😂
@matt92550
@matt92550 7 күн бұрын
Rent free in your head
@PJBlick
@PJBlick 7 күн бұрын
@@matt92550 *their heads
@charleyboytheredeemed3347
@charleyboytheredeemed3347 7 күн бұрын
Starring the bucks and their friends.
@user-do2ev2hr7h
@user-do2ev2hr7h 4 күн бұрын
While the big company manages to make him a top draw/star even while he's injured.
@Beer_Baron_
@Beer_Baron_ 8 күн бұрын
Not only was Siegal’s niece dating Scott Hall, but Raven as well?!? Oh Lordy, I gotta see a picture of her!
@stevew7571
@stevew7571 8 күн бұрын
#Skeezer
@perfectblindguy
@perfectblindguy 7 күн бұрын
I met Raven at an indy show in 97 and he is nowhere six ft and he weighed maybe 180. I bought him a snickers...greatest day of my life
@cb3648
@cb3648 5 күн бұрын
@@perfectblindguy Did he mention his high IQ by chance?
@MilMaska
@MilMaska 8 күн бұрын
"Bro. Im gonna be 1000% honest with you" - Vince Russo
@perfectblindguy
@perfectblindguy 7 күн бұрын
you forgot to add a hundred more bros in his comment.
@Axs_Nice_Hair
@Axs_Nice_Hair 7 күн бұрын
It's easy to do that when you're mentally ill and believe your own lies
@jaywortham697
@jaywortham697 6 күн бұрын
No..Vince Russo was handed control after bishoff allowed Hogan to f**k up the progress he had built 94 95 96 97.Russo was an idiot but it's not his fault.
@Ben-td1zv
@Ben-td1zv 8 күн бұрын
Travis you've done it again.
@JTfromMN
@JTfromMN 8 күн бұрын
Travis is Brilliant
@positively_broad_st3780
@positively_broad_st3780 8 күн бұрын
The Usual Suspects!
@markfroman738
@markfroman738 7 күн бұрын
Travis was on Tooney Talk Wrestling last week!
@oldschoolboxingtalk2940
@oldschoolboxingtalk2940 8 күн бұрын
I believe the Turner Executives killed WCW because they did not want wrestling
@dildonius
@dildonius 8 күн бұрын
Nah, they just delivered the killing blow. But they wouldn't have struck that blow if it weren't for everyone _else_ doing all of the shit that _they_ did over the years as well.
@lauromunoz4692
@lauromunoz4692 8 күн бұрын
Thank you. That started around 87 to 88. 👍😎
@genkidamatrunks6759
@genkidamatrunks6759 8 күн бұрын
This. If there was ever any doubt the WCW was done for, that night that Jim Duggan ran out to the ring after being missing for months and started brandishing a bendable 2 x 4 which he then bent back straight 😂, should have informed everyone.
@mical2great
@mical2great 8 күн бұрын
Bruh cut it out. HOGAN, Bishoff, and NASH shot wcw point blank and turner just tripped it after the fact.
@TheFailedmessiah
@TheFailedmessiah 8 күн бұрын
I think that's the most realistic and true comment. They just didn't want wrestling anymore and any excuse to get it off the programming was their way out
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 8 күн бұрын
I still think Kevin Nash doesn't get enough blame. Massive dose of barbs from day one that took its time to work it's way through the veins.
@stevew7571
@stevew7571 8 күн бұрын
Nash is far more responsible than most assume for his role in poisoning the well in WCW. Diesel is still trying to smarm and bullshit his way through it. Revisionist history is his style
@it_punkkid7298
@it_punkkid7298 8 күн бұрын
Kevin Nash also had problem in this drama
@keithwiggins3131
@keithwiggins3131 8 күн бұрын
Nash & Kevin Sullivan got to take responsibility to. But the main culprits are Eric Hogan Vince Jim heard Ted Turner and the other companies that wanted this to happened.
@justin7409
@justin7409 8 күн бұрын
💯 right!!! I like Kevin Nash, from '94-'98 he was one of my favorite wrestlers. But damn over the last 20 years after I found out how much Nash had to do with the bullshit (example I only learned a year or two ago Nash was the booker behind the stage -anybody could call out anyone it seemed and get a match in 5 seconds and he did more than his fair share of it!) I've lost alotta respect for him. He's still one of my top 20 favorites maybe top 25. That said he should get 20% of the blame pie.
@justin7409
@justin7409 8 күн бұрын
On second thought I'll be nice and bump it down to 10% because after I thought about it there's at least 5-7 ppl that need blame and shame.
@bjg8638
@bjg8638 8 күн бұрын
This was propaganda designed to make Eric Bishoff look as good as possible, your milage may vary though. Most of the wrestlers looked all right. Bret Hart made me belly laugh several times. The Rock added literally nothing to this lol
@mikejackson1003
@mikejackson1003 8 күн бұрын
@bjg8638 It's ridiculous that The Rock is even part of it
@RustyMuck
@RustyMuck 8 күн бұрын
Bro, it helped that Russo makes himself the villain just by opening his mouth, bro, with all that verbal effluvia he spews, bro, bro, bro, bro, bro
@marilynsgirl01
@marilynsgirl01 8 күн бұрын
I have loved Bret since I was a little girl. He’s not one to mince words. 😂
@benjambreeg
@benjambreeg 8 күн бұрын
@@mikejackson1003that’s his gimmick now. Inserting himself into unrelated things to look cool and relevant
@HelenM1994
@HelenM1994 7 күн бұрын
@@marilynsgirl01 Same, I enjoyed listening to him speak 🩷🖤
@doubles7533
@doubles7533 8 күн бұрын
Artwork it amazing. Russo as the cripple Verbal Kent is perfect lol
@JPS47
@JPS47 8 күн бұрын
You could tell Bischoff was full of crap through out the series. He may not have solely killed WCW but he was a part of it.
@End_Of_Decay
@End_Of_Decay 8 күн бұрын
Absolutely. Hogan got d rode so hard.
@perfectblindguy
@perfectblindguy 7 күн бұрын
My take is that signing Hogan did not help wcw at all. He simply was not worth the money.
@JPS47
@JPS47 7 күн бұрын
@@perfectblindguy not at first or after NWO but Hogan turning heel by joining the outsiders was worth it.
@PJBlick
@PJBlick 7 күн бұрын
Actually, one of the main parts. Every one of his braindead decisions led to it's inevitable failure.
@EDorb
@EDorb 7 күн бұрын
Worth noting that Guy Evans, one of the talking heads, wrote the Nitro book (one of the inspirations for the show) and was also co-author on Bischoff's second book. Guy is a very talented writer and Nitro is an incredible achievement, but definitely feel like both of them being involved in a show that goes out of its way to make Eric look good is not a coincidence.
@frankrivera6384
@frankrivera6384 7 күн бұрын
Nash is a miserable person, always was. Tore his quad putting on his pants
@goldenpeacock8843
@goldenpeacock8843 6 күн бұрын
But he's part of The Kliq😂🤣
@DavidH1
@DavidH1 7 күн бұрын
Vince Russo ruined any chance of WCW surviving and everyone knows it. He flooded the place with shit and you would never get rid of the smell after that... he destroyed it beyond all recognition.
@F-Zero-yf3bh
@F-Zero-yf3bh 8 күн бұрын
Who killed WCW? It was the YET-TAY!!!
@violatress
@violatress 7 күн бұрын
Fuck, man, sorry, but I was going through all these amusing comments, got to yours and spat out my drink. You owe me half a drink... Or maybe it's the mummy of the Yet-tay that does.
@skooobz
@skooobz 6 күн бұрын
cmon it was clearly the shockmaster
@kevinwhite3685
@kevinwhite3685 7 күн бұрын
Hogan is the blame and his creative control. He was involved in 3 of the biggest blunders they had. Starcade 97 finish, finger point of doom, bash at the beach. Eric is partly to blame for letting Hogan do whatever he wanted.
@quietdignityandgrace
@quietdignityandgrace 8 күн бұрын
A Greater Mystery: Who Keeps Whipping The Horse's Corpse?
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 6 күн бұрын
Ever diminishing ratings of cable tv.
@markfroman738
@markfroman738 7 күн бұрын
The Rock was about 15 years late to this party.
@Axs_Nice_Hair
@Axs_Nice_Hair 7 күн бұрын
The rock had no business even being in this Doc. Seriously, why the hell did they need his input? Claiming he had a list of all the stars he wanted to work with.. yeah right. Sure thing Dwayne 🙄 More like, he had a list of people he wanted to Bury like when he buried Booker T and said to him, "Who are you?" and took away all his cred as WCW champion. That dumb little stunt he pulled cost the company a chance at signing Sting.
@trae1226
@trae1226 8 күн бұрын
Right on time for the Saturday night this should be a good one
@blankwavemessiah
@blankwavemessiah 8 күн бұрын
I think Bischoff was the only person who actually cared. He wasn't perfect, but he cared WAY more than the others. You could tell it mattered to him. And he provided the most details, the clearest picture, etc. I'm not saying some of his choices didn't screw stuff up... But MANY of his choices led to their ride on top. I kinda see him as a divorced parent who takes it hard on themself when their kid goes down a strange path. Y'know??? That Siegel dude wreaaaaaked of bullshit. Did NOT like him... Cheers to all. Hail the Cult.
@TheEnoEtile
@TheEnoEtile 6 күн бұрын
Yeah its a bit weird how much people want to blame Bischoff when he's responsible for it being successful to begin with. Sounds like the way things were running at Turner/WCW before Bischoff took over at WCW they were trying to pull the plug by 97 or earlier.
@blankwavemessiah
@blankwavemessiah 6 күн бұрын
@@TheEnoEtile exactly man… exactly. “Captain of the ship goes down with the ship????” He’s a good fall guy, plain and simple. I just find it incredibly endearing that He’s the only one who accepted his flaws
@lovelywaz
@lovelywaz 6 күн бұрын
I don't care what anyone says, to me the single most important factor (with few other minor ones) was Eric Bischoff giving creative control to the big names, mainly Hulk Hogan and Friends. It was all fun and games at the start when they were also beating RAW, but when time came to do the jobs and make changes, including creating and putting younger talent over, everything went downhill... BECAUSE of creative control clauses. Any booker had their hands tied because of that stupid reason, bad booking was obviously another big reason but as I said, nobody could "book better" when the top guys were waving their creative control flag for anything and everything.
@larrylutz6825
@larrylutz6825 8 күн бұрын
Bro, the greatest trick the devil ever did bro, was convince the world he did not exist, bro!
@dubiouscaesar3709
@dubiouscaesar3709 8 күн бұрын
You forgot to drag out de-vil, con-vince, and ex-ist, bro 😅
@jabrockobiden9434
@jabrockobiden9434 7 күн бұрын
Thats the truth
@john_blues
@john_blues 8 күн бұрын
They mentioned PPV buys. Here's some data. Forbidden Door ppv buys this year: 110,000 to 116,000 Last Year: 127,000 Year Before: 131,000
@DR.64A9
@DR.64A9 8 күн бұрын
That's actually not a terrible decline. The TV ratings drop is far worse.
@smarkslowplay3512
@smarkslowplay3512 8 күн бұрын
Who is releasing these numbers?
@DennisGlover-wr2mw
@DennisGlover-wr2mw 7 күн бұрын
Big shout-out to Travis Heckel. You hit out of the park with this one. Still waiting for a Cult of Cornette "Win A Signed Travis Heckel" Contest.
@comradecrimsonsmaidenporiu8766
@comradecrimsonsmaidenporiu8766 7 күн бұрын
The whole Heckel packaged right up and snugly shipped
@JTfromMN
@JTfromMN 8 күн бұрын
And Great job once again Travis, Usual Suspects theme Pure Brilliance, 😂
@perfectblindguy
@perfectblindguy 8 күн бұрын
Foley killed WCW. Sullivan stated that after KOTR 98, WCW could not compete with that.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, couldn't compete with the wild stuff WWF was doing. WCW was a corporate entity which had to adhere to Time Warner's standard and practices. WWF was run by one man: Vince McMahon.
@perfectblindguy
@perfectblindguy 4 күн бұрын
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi People say that but there was nothing family friendly about the vince russo era in wcw.........
@chadczternastek
@chadczternastek 8 күн бұрын
Those 4 episodes, all the hype, anticipation, we learn absolutely everything we already know. I really was so bored the whole time.
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 6 күн бұрын
Agreed. It's been 23 years, multiple tell all podcasts and books...nothing new. IMO it was a domino effect: other than goldberg, WCW had no great follow up to the NWO, WWF was getting red hot, leading to stars leaving for WWF, and finally, the execs in aol/time warner killed the timeslots, which is the actual thing that killed WCW. Turner execs never liked WCW, even with it's better than avg ratings. If they had been smart, they could have said "ok, we can sell to fuscient, get it off our books, but still get good ratings(albeit with worse advertisers)." Now, who's to say how successful a WCW based in Vegas under Bischoff would have been, but we'll never know.
@LS-fd6tl
@LS-fd6tl 7 күн бұрын
Bischoff gets a lot of blame for the bad but he also deserves a lot of credit for the good too.
@JohnKobaRuddy
@JohnKobaRuddy 7 күн бұрын
@@LS-fd6tl beyond the Luchas and the nwo what good did he do?
@LS-fd6tl
@LS-fd6tl 7 күн бұрын
@JohnKobaRuddy "beyond" like those are just two minor things that didn't entirely change the business for the better and elevate the entire industry's popularity? Btw - you could also add heel boss, seeing as he was doing that for a year before Vince did
@jesterr7133
@jesterr7133 8 күн бұрын
The issue with canceling the show and killing the Fusient deal does lead me to believe Bischoff's version of events. Bischoff was going to pay $60 million for WCW. AOL/Time Warner would have had a show that was still doing good numbers when compared to their normal stuff, and they would have no financial responsibility for WCW. Instead, they canceled it and killed the deal, while selling the company to WWE for a fraction of what Bischoff was offering. They also continued paying the top guys for years after the company sold. If you are an executive for the company, how does it make financial sense to kill the Fusient deal? It doesn't. They lost a lot of money and maintained financial responsibility for WCW for years as a result of canceling the show. I believe Bischoff. I think they just did not want to be involved in wrestling, and Siegel basically confirmed it. I am subscribed to Bischoff, Nash, and Shitstain's channels. I have heard all of them go into more detail on their podcasts than in this series. Everyone has some degree of culpability. No one person or thing killed WCW, but I think Bischoff is the most honest of all the people involved. He openly discusses his mistakes and takes responsibility for them, unlike the other two.
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 6 күн бұрын
Agreed. My theory is financially, it makes no sense, but to the execs who want to continue to climb the corporate ladder, it does because it's all about perception within the company. They don't want to be associated with wrasslin' so they sacrifice money for prestige short terms, better long term it will be worth it. Still, any competent exec would realize exactly what you said: "let's sell to fuscient, make some money back, get the company off our books, and get a bump in ratings a couple nights a week". I listen to Eric's podcast but I don't remember if the fuscient deal would have aquired the big money contracts(i.e. if AOL/TW would pay the difference between what fuscient would put up). I'll have to rewatch the sale of wcw episode(I believe they did one on that topic)
@paulmolive1821
@paulmolive1821 8 күн бұрын
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 killed WCW!
@daxxyboy3686
@daxxyboy3686 8 күн бұрын
Look, I am a Cult of Cornette member, loud and proud for over 15 years. However, Jim is incorrect on this one. Eric Bischoff wasn't the greatest human being in the world at one time, but he was the BEST thing that ever happened to WCW. Without him and without the signing of Hulk, which is ENTIRELY because of Etic, WCW would have shut down probably by 1994 or 1995 at the absolute latest. The AIL/Time Warner merger killed WCW, simple as that.
@chrisrodgers1087
@chrisrodgers1087 8 күн бұрын
I agree! They never would've had those highest of highs w/out Eric.
@adammeyer347128
@adammeyer347128 8 күн бұрын
If it were still a profitable business, WCW would have survived the merger. It wasn’t profitable thanks in large part to Hogan and Bischoff.
@DR.64A9
@DR.64A9 8 күн бұрын
​@@adammeyer347128Bad take. It was never profitable before them.
@nathanialharris3300
@nathanialharris3300 8 күн бұрын
More accurate to say Gagne. He's the one Bischoff stole the nwo idea from, who facilitated the Hogan meeting, and who got screwed and let go shortly after. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mJqBadBy2a3Ye6s.htmlsi=5GGYEqurckQhbQFP
@jonnya4209
@jonnya4209 7 күн бұрын
Yeah, the anti-Bischoff narrative was old and uncool over 10years ago and belongs with indy-marks. I'd never have watched WCW were it not for what he did and wouldn't be interested in wrestling now.
@larrylutz6825
@larrylutz6825 8 күн бұрын
The perfect thumbnail drawing doesn’t exisssss….I stand corrected.
@erikpoe5970
@erikpoe5970 7 күн бұрын
Hogan with what Kidman once brilliantly referred to as “that grotesque orange tan of yours.”
@GregLeopard-br2he
@GregLeopard-br2he 7 күн бұрын
It wasn’t insider info that WCW couldn’t be sold to a Bischoff team. It was common sense. If Biscoff fails, you’ve got an eyesore taking up prime time tv on a flagship channel. If Bischoff succeeds it’s even worse: you just sold a company to a guy who tanked WCW’s value while employed by you, sold it to him for pennies on the dollar, and then “miraculously “ turned it around and made it valuable again. The seller would look like they just fell for a multimillion dollar fleecing.
@HyperActive7
@HyperActive7 8 күн бұрын
In the end.. WCW killed..WCW -Vince McMahon.
@nerdrage557
@nerdrage557 8 күн бұрын
The show should have ended in typical end of WCW fashion: a masked man hits another guy that shows up in frame with a chair and says "I told the internet I'd do it!" Cut to another clip of the world title being on a forklift for no reason and finally the show goes off the air with a brawl in the background just because. "4.25 stars wasn't in Japan would have been higher"- Meltzer probably
@PJBlick
@PJBlick 7 күн бұрын
Don't forget that it gets cut off with Tony Schiavone yelling at us to tune in next week! xD
@libertychip526
@libertychip526 7 күн бұрын
Add in someone’s 50-some-year-old mother and a few Halliburton briefcases and.. yea sounds about right.
@Mia-96-n8d
@Mia-96-n8d 8 күн бұрын
Many killed WCW but Tony Khan solely killed AEW.
@Am71919
@Am71919 8 күн бұрын
AEW AEW AEW AEW AEW AEW AEW AEW..... Why do people always have to bring their name up even when the video isn't even about them 😒
@russellspear6188
@russellspear6188 8 күн бұрын
It wouldn't exist without him so moot point. It was a horrible creation. There haven't been any promotions worth a damn since ECW.
@jackieparmz
@jackieparmz 7 күн бұрын
@@Am71919cause people like you get triggered by it
@DoomKitteh
@DoomKitteh 7 күн бұрын
Facts hurt, don't they ​@@Am71919
@maxxdahl6062
@maxxdahl6062 7 күн бұрын
@@Am71919 History repeats itself.
@GarrettWebster-mx5wx
@GarrettWebster-mx5wx 7 күн бұрын
It was, in order of responsibility and examples : 1) Bichoff’s long term booking/buisness choices : A) giving hall and Nash guaranteed contracts . He could have signed them for just a large pay increase. Giving them guaranteed money let them run wild and for hall to do every pull he could find and still get paid . 90% of the backstage problems from 96 to there closing involved one of them . I don’t put them on this list because you can’t blame a rattlesnake for biting you if your stupid enough to pick it up B) not having a clear end to the nWo storyline . The nWo is a top 3 angle in all of wrestling. Up until starcade 97 , it was executed to perfection. After that ppv though it was terrible . Think the first 5 seasons of game of thrones followed by the last 3 . C) his terrible booking of Bret hart . He had the HOTTEST baby face in the world (this was pre WM 14 Austin ) and one of the best in ring wrestlers ever . His opening angle was a special ref for a “control of nitro match . D) his ability to set money on fire! Just read about the history of “hog wild “ and you really will understand everything . 2) Vince Russo A) what he did to WCW in 18 months was the golden bullet. It wasn’t just bad wrestling (outside of David Arquette being WORLD CHAMP , WCW had something like 28 world title changes inn12 months ) it was bad everything (go watch anything with Russo on tv, the Oklahoma character , Mark fucking madden , or the Goldberg heel turn ) It was nonsensical and offensive to anyone who watched . If WCW could have pulled there ratings back up to the low 4s , AOL time warner would have kept it on air or they could have sold it to a company like fox . Russo was so bad it killed anyone wanting anything to do with it . And Last 3) Stone cold and The rock . People today do not understand how HUGE these two were from 98-2001 . This was like having the 90’s bulls and Shaq Kobe lakers on the same team playing every Monday night . Stone cold could have sold out Madison square garden just by saying he was gonna show up to stun a jobber . He was the bad ass everyone wanted to be . And The Rock was like the coolest , smoothest , and flashiest guy on earth . There is a reason he went from teaming with mick foley to becoming arguably the biggest movie star on earth for a min . These two where so good and there rivalry so strong that it made ALL other wrestling look like horse shit .
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
Everybody in WCW had guaranteed contracts, which eventually forced Vince to abandon his "In the WWF, we only guarantee opportunities" type of contracts. Now, the favoured nations clause was total bs and unnecessary. He basically already had their signatures by offering them around $700k per year and substantially less dates (180 iirc). At that point, Nash and Hall were making 250k - 350k (merchandise included) and worked around 300 dates a year in the WWF.
@mattst.germain4023
@mattst.germain4023 5 күн бұрын
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3ziNash and Hall were making way more than $250/$350k in WWE before they left for WCW lol..
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 5 күн бұрын
@@mattst.germain4023 No, but how would you know? You weren't even born back then
@mattst.germain4023
@mattst.germain4023 5 күн бұрын
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi was born in 1980. Comment makes no sense either…
@randrake4
@randrake4 3 күн бұрын
AOL didn't want any sports related thing. Turner had the Hawks and Braves plus Thrashers hockey. Time Warner kept those. AOL came and dumped all of those.
@prestonpfeiffer
@prestonpfeiffer 8 күн бұрын
They didnt even talk about the changing of WCW’s logo for no real reason,which I believe played a big part in it as well.
@wewin03
@wewin03 7 күн бұрын
To me the moment it changed was the night Foley won the title on Raw and on the same night you had the finger poke of doom on Nitro. Hundreds of Thousands shifted their allegiance that night. So for me it was Bischoff
@Joshua-ez5bs
@Joshua-ez5bs 7 күн бұрын
I agree and Schivaone giving away the outcome of raws main event. That was dumb and i believe that was Bischoffs idea.
@Brianraymond581
@Brianraymond581 7 күн бұрын
Cornette does such a good job of giving Eric bischoff just the right amount of credit and the right amount of criticism.
@gavindoyle8717
@gavindoyle8717 8 күн бұрын
I would deal with the suspects the same way the Mafia would. Cue "The House of the Rising Sun"
@asurlybarber3620
@asurlybarber3620 7 күн бұрын
"Where you going, jagoff?" - real former gangster Frank Cullotta in "Casino"
@doomedhuh
@doomedhuh 8 күн бұрын
WCW picked a fight with WWF they were never going to win in the long run. Sure, they beat them for those 83 or however many weeks. but they spent so much $$ doing it their fate was sealed.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
They were profitable tho, meaning they generated even more $$. You forget that during that time, Time Warner came down on them hard. While Vince was copying their realistic approach and added scantily dressed women, WCW was ordered to revert back to a more family friendly presentation. WWF was turning up the volume with wild outlandish promos while on TNT and TBS they couldn't even say "s hit"
@doomedhuh
@doomedhuh 7 күн бұрын
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3ziThey were only profitable for a short amount of time. Turner bought jim crockett in 1988 and it never turned a profit until n.W.o era. They spent so much to finally become profitable that it was unsustainable. Remember around Wrestlemania 12 when they were doing the Billionaire Ted skits, Vince placed an ad in the new york times accusing Turner of defrauding shareholders due to a personal vendetta against Vince since wcw had never turned a profit.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
@@doomedhuh 95 was the first year they didn't lose money. They really started to make a profit in 96, 97, 98. 99 ended with a $9 million loss.
@gunnarjordan6980
@gunnarjordan6980 6 күн бұрын
You’ll never convince me it wasn’t Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash, Eric Bischoff, and Vince Russo.
@LRM5195
@LRM5195 5 күн бұрын
Why not throw the AOL merger in there as well? I mean, you’re already like 90% there lmao
@lastdragon55
@lastdragon55 7 күн бұрын
Vince Russo being Keyser Soze is damn poetic.😂
@ozzy6994
@ozzy6994 8 күн бұрын
The AOL executives definitely helped kill WCW, but so did Hogan, Nash and Bischoff. Vince Russo and Slapnuts put the final nail in the coffin towards the end though.
@wcstults
@wcstults 7 күн бұрын
What did Jarrett do? Never heard much about his role.
@federicodistefano6891
@federicodistefano6891 7 күн бұрын
​@@wcstults he was just the shits and a poor excuse for a Champ
@archiemisc
@archiemisc 7 күн бұрын
Vince McMahon put the final nail in the coffin
@billmoseley5860
@billmoseley5860 7 күн бұрын
It is easy to blame the network, since they don't give a damn and have more important things to do. But if WCW was so good, wouldn't you want away from AOL and be able to sell your product to the highest bidder? But I guess nobody else was interested in broadcasting WCW
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
It's not like it was officially on sale. Bischoff put his offer together because he internally approached them. Once Kellner got installed, they got rid of it real fast. Vince offered 6,7% of what Bischoff and Fusient media did and they agreed.
@cadavermanhim
@cadavermanhim 7 күн бұрын
That thumbnail is a masterpiece
@Zafaryabism
@Zafaryabism 7 күн бұрын
WCW was like the film The 9th Configuration: it was literally run by the inmates as stated previously.
@Bill22252
@Bill22252 5 күн бұрын
Amazing reference
@Zafaryabism
@Zafaryabism 4 күн бұрын
​@@Bill22252 I am really honoured! Thank you!
@wewin03
@wewin03 7 күн бұрын
Every documentary has a heel and a babyface.
@bert3969
@bert3969 8 күн бұрын
From everything I saw in the episodes it was basically the rise and fall of WCW DVD cut up and a few new updated interviews
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 8 күн бұрын
We’re never going to get an honest documentary that holds the suspects accountable for their crimes…
@ipot399
@ipot399 7 күн бұрын
@@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 A documentary that attempts to quantify the damage that each person inflicted on the company would be one worth watching.
@keeganhurley119
@keeganhurley119 8 күн бұрын
Well Booker T believes it’s Bischoff’s fault
@TRoller927
@TRoller927 7 күн бұрын
Booker T is one of the few guys coming out of that company that isn't completely delusional.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
Sure... Nice way of deflecting that he wasn't a draw as champion and interest went even further down the drain
@Chronoir3
@Chronoir3 8 күн бұрын
I am super glad Nash - Hogan - Bischoff - Russo doesn't have anything to do/say in the current wrestling scenery.
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734
@elijahechicagobearsboyd5734 8 күн бұрын
Agreed. Absolute self serving and dishonest bottom feeders.
@johnnygrind77
@johnnygrind77 7 күн бұрын
Every time they mention Ted Turner in anything, all I can think of is the Family Guy skit where Lois' mom is giving Ted a bath. "Ernie doesn't like the monsters!"
@delbertprince5302
@delbertprince5302 8 күн бұрын
In my opinion, the combination of Turner administration,AOL internet,Kevin Nash,Eric Bishoff, Vince Russo and Hulk Hogan killed WCW.
@James-bi4jz
@James-bi4jz 7 күн бұрын
Its possible for Eric to be a hall of fame promoter and one of the people that destroyed WCW. He was the only person to ever beat Vince, he got Hogan when he was still seen as the biggest star in wrestling, got Hall and Nash from WWF when they were a some of the biggest 'new' WWF stars, the outsiders and NWO was one of the hottest things in wrestling, he got Hogan to turn heel, had Vince seriously consider selling up when the WWF was losing money and losing out in the ratings, had a real talent for selling wrestling to execs who didn't understand it. There was some luck/help/context in some of that, but still he has real achievements.
@televiper11
@televiper11 5 күн бұрын
Turner killed WCW by ceding control of his company via those mergers. He would’ve likely protected WCW for longer.
@randrake4
@randrake4 3 күн бұрын
He did with Time Warner. AOL basically pushed Ted into being powerless when AOL merged. They sold the Hawks, Braves, and Thrashers too. AOL killed Ted's power.
@MichaelGray-qx9pe
@MichaelGray-qx9pe 7 күн бұрын
I love hearing these Good old classic WCW stories from Jim. They're great 👍 🙂
@johnnybstuddd4482
@johnnybstuddd4482 8 күн бұрын
Looks like everyone in that line up were the culprits that killed WCW
@deemen7132
@deemen7132 8 күн бұрын
Usual suspects lol
@SuperbNProsper
@SuperbNProsper 8 күн бұрын
I still have an aol address lol. Damn time flys
@Beer_Baron_
@Beer_Baron_ 8 күн бұрын
I wonder how long WCW would have continued for if Bischoff’s group had bought it.
@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom
@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom 8 күн бұрын
More than likely not long because he was going to continue to let Hogan and Nash run it into the ground.
@TuMalditaMadre
@TuMalditaMadre 8 күн бұрын
TNA is still around 22 years later.
@Beer_Baron_
@Beer_Baron_ 7 күн бұрын
@@FBA_God_Emperor_Doom Yeah. Agree.
@cardiuswalker7068
@cardiuswalker7068 7 күн бұрын
I miss WCW
@roobear78
@roobear78 7 күн бұрын
like him or not corny,eric does deserve a seat at the top table for being the only guy who managed to get mcmahon's knees to at least wobble in the ring! He might not have had the ability to knock him out but he did what the other reats couldnt thats for sure
@derkolossal9433
@derkolossal9433 8 күн бұрын
The Rock bringing back Eric Bischoff as the “wiseman” for bloodline 2.0? The Samoan World Order vs the Paul Heyman Guys.
@kingslayer2999
@kingslayer2999 8 күн бұрын
Somebody tell Cornette Tony Klown brought back Marko Stunt aka Dwarf Dong Sucker on AEW Collision tonight 😂😂😂
@wilcee238
@wilcee238 8 күн бұрын
I pray that they’re just going to use him to get MJF heat by beating him up.
@C0wboyzfan4life
@C0wboyzfan4life 8 күн бұрын
😂
@ValiantWrestling
@ValiantWrestling 7 күн бұрын
*Stunted-Growth.
@DB3XVI
@DB3XVI 8 күн бұрын
The Shopify bit was hilarious. Still laughing...
@kekohokko7213
@kekohokko7213 7 күн бұрын
A lot of thought went into this Thumbnail. Great work.
@travisheckel3788
@travisheckel3788 7 күн бұрын
It did!! Thank you
@benjaminperez7328
@benjaminperez7328 7 күн бұрын
@@travisheckel3788 You looked up their heights in order to get them right, didn’t you Travis? Magnificent attention to detail.. I salute you. 🫡
@travisheckel3788
@travisheckel3788 7 күн бұрын
@@benjaminperez7328 I did! Lol
@CardShopReality
@CardShopReality 8 күн бұрын
For 20+ years I've said Jamie Kellner is WHO Killed WCW. This 4-part documentary did not change my mind however, the Seigal/Snyder relationship is suspicious as a culprit. THUMBS UP for the review!
@chrischar9428
@chrischar9428 7 күн бұрын
He gave mercy flush
@partypoppers1988
@partypoppers1988 6 күн бұрын
Diamond Dallas Page is the example why none of the WCW top stars wanted to take a pay cut. Vince wasn't good at promoting stars who came in from his rivals. The Legion of Doom and Dusty are two previous examples of this...
@mattst.germain4023
@mattst.germain4023 5 күн бұрын
Yet HHH and Austin came from WCW lol… Jericho, Nash, Benoit, Guerrero, Booker T, Flair, Foley, Big Show, Luger, Mysterio, RVD. Hell Taker was in WCW before WWE…
@lecodh1
@lecodh1 4 күн бұрын
Absolutely LOVE that Jim still and will forever refer to Russo as S***Stain!
@MatthewSmith-nt7rj
@MatthewSmith-nt7rj 7 күн бұрын
They really did mess up the invasion angle. There was so much potential. If they didn't announce, they bought WCW, and WCW guys started to show up on WWF TV unexpected what a reaction they would of gotten
@CombatTalkRadio
@CombatTalkRadio 7 күн бұрын
No. wCw should have remained a separate show. No Invasion. No "brand extension". Let Shane run wCw as a shoot and compete against each other. You're double-dipping money when you do that and it would have been compelling; they've done spinoffs of that concept anyway.
@MatthewSmith-nt7rj
@MatthewSmith-nt7rj 7 күн бұрын
@CombatTalkRadio That could work, but you have to remember WCW lost the network spot
@prestonpfeiffer
@prestonpfeiffer 8 күн бұрын
Crazy that Ted and Corny never crossed paths because I could see Ted Turner being a big Jim Cornette guy. Something about their bombastic,Southern personalities is very similar.
@travisheckel3788
@travisheckel3788 8 күн бұрын
They probably did. Jim was there when turner bought it
@richardstange5939
@richardstange5939 8 күн бұрын
It was the execs that didn’t want WCW on their channel. They set it up to fail.
@shaunkenneally7597
@shaunkenneally7597 7 күн бұрын
Funny addition to this story, Chris Jericho once said "When I heard what they sold WCW for I could have bought it". The fix was always in for VKM
@goldenpeacock8843
@goldenpeacock8843 6 күн бұрын
Yeah,especially with Hall and Nash as Shawn Michaels and Triple H's Buddies in The Kliq.Yeah,the supposed Outsiders.Vince,Stephanie,Triple H all i can see discussing The Plan.1st Spike the Ratings then Sabotage WCW.See,Hall and Nash know who bought them to the Dance.Their not giving up their Friendship in The Kliq😂🤣
@chrisparkinson8130
@chrisparkinson8130 7 күн бұрын
The most stupid thing is ric flair literally debuted the night after the invasion I still remember watching that episode of raw as a kid and thinking ok here we go the real invasion starts now and he ended up being the co general manager and about a month after the NWO debuted … you could of literally done the i casino with those 4 people ….wrestlemania 18 should of been the peak of the invasion in fact I think every match would of got that rock hogan reaction and it would of the been the biggest ppv in wrestling history It was from that day on I knew vince McMahon was a complete moron and have been proven right ever since
@Larry-dq4ig
@Larry-dq4ig 6 күн бұрын
There was no one cause of WCW’s downfall and death. It was a combination of a lot of things. It starts with Bischoff allowing the inmates to run the asylum. Then you can go into factors like the poor booking decisions over time from Bischoff/Russo, creative control, overpaying certain talent (I.e. Michael Buffer being paid a fortune and used on Nitro), and finally Turner executives putting the kibosh to it. But there were many things that happened that led to a poor product and poor ratings prior to the executives deciding to nix it. There was no single thing that killed WCW but a collective effort from various sources that killed the product.
@ericl7435
@ericl7435 7 күн бұрын
Poke of doom was terrible so unperfesional
@daviddzwonkowski4722
@daviddzwonkowski4722 8 күн бұрын
This is it. This IS THE PERFECT THUMBNAIL
@stevew7571
@stevew7571 8 күн бұрын
Bro....only needing Konnan!!
@positively_broad_st3780
@positively_broad_st3780 8 күн бұрын
None of those guys are smart enough to be Keyser Soze...😅
@jimmymetal713
@jimmymetal713 8 күн бұрын
Instead of the usual suspects, it's the unusual suspects 😂
@JTfromMN
@JTfromMN 8 күн бұрын
I think they shouldve brought hulk hgan in but i bet u couldnt figure out what mega church he"s at today😂
@DanielMussen-ex8si
@DanielMussen-ex8si 5 күн бұрын
Elbow Pads|Knee Pads|Taped Wrists|MMA Style Gloves Past Present Future
@andrebdd5818
@andrebdd5818 7 күн бұрын
Nash explained why he decided to stay home. He said him and Scott had 18 months left at $1.9 million a year. Wwe called and offered to give him half his wcw contract per year and a new wwe deal at $700,000 a year. So basically the wwe wanted to pay him $1.6 million a year to go to work 250 days a year or he could sit at home and collect $1.9 to sit by the pool and bust his body up. He said only an idiot would take that deal even if you could make a little more with incentives.
@TheWhatMan80
@TheWhatMan80 8 күн бұрын
I'm about to watch The Usual Suspects now
@chasethomas9238
@chasethomas9238 7 күн бұрын
DDP took half the money, Jim, and it did NOT work out for him, I'd say.
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi
@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi 7 күн бұрын
DDP and Booker didn't have the same name value as Nash, Hall, Sting and Hulk. I get it why they took it. They needed to get back out there while they were still hot. The other big names did the right thing
@danthemancushecan
@danthemancushecan 7 күн бұрын
"The Usual Suspects" artwork is perfect for this episode. Notice how Russo is Verbal Kent. This is fitting because he was the one behind everything going to shit in the film.
@ianmac3469
@ianmac3469 7 күн бұрын
Travis’s artwork always cracks me up
@emperortrevornorton3119
@emperortrevornorton3119 8 күн бұрын
I blame all parties involved Nash the least because of reasons but they all had a hand in destroying WCW every single one
@deemen7132
@deemen7132 8 күн бұрын
Nash is oure luck masquerading as talent/work ethic
@deemen7132
@deemen7132 8 күн бұрын
Pure
@trishlang1310
@trishlang1310 8 күн бұрын
I think ultimately Bischoff deserves a good majority of the blame. He let his buddies do whatever they wanted even when it wasnt good, that includes giving them creative and booking control at times, and they obviously didn't have the business's best interests in mind. Just listen to some of Nash's interviews for evidence of his lazy selfish attitude. If the product remained good and semi competitive, I doubt the higher ups would be as quick to abandon it if it's making them money. Its Bischoff's job to make sure the product is professional, profitable, and is of high quality. For many different reasons, including not being willing to stand up to his star buddies and take charge, and most likely not having enough knowledge to do so - the ball he dropped was the heaviest and most damaging I think.
@EvanTatum
@EvanTatum 7 күн бұрын
Usual Suspects so underrated:), kuddos Mr Travis lol
@michaelradtke4801
@michaelradtke4801 7 күн бұрын
How did they bleed that much money in 2000 if the big contracts weren't on WCWs books
@lutherheggs451
@lutherheggs451 7 күн бұрын
Because in reality when 2 companies merge together, its common practice that you take the losses from other divisions in the company and move them to the one that you most want to get rid of. And AOL was embarrassed to even have "wrasslin" on their network. Its how Microsoft works and they've been doing it for decades. they spend billions on Xbox and it never makes them a penny so they spread around the numbers to make the losses look smaller and appease the shareholders who have wanted Xbox gone from Microsoft since the Xbox 360 days after they lost billions knowingly releasing a product with a 54% failure rate on the market and had to fix them
@kyleloney4191
@kyleloney4191 8 күн бұрын
You don’t understand history if you get mad at the Mt Rushmore remark. Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Teddy did one good thing just like Eric is the only person ever to beat Vince.
@C0wboyzfan4life
@C0wboyzfan4life 8 күн бұрын
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