WHY is this even a surprise? you can also have a fire or earthquake or a tornado sweep through. people ignorantly forget NATURAL DISASTERS can destroy everything such as that california fire last month. either have full insurance or build separate game rooms in different parts of the state or different homes and have them on the highest floor and easily moveable. there are solutions but to think everything will be fine is ignorant. i can imagine james (avgn) may experience an earthquake or a fire. everything will disappear in just a few minutes. let's not forget houston's flooding recently.

:D

People will always complain for the sake of complaining! Wish you the best of luck!

You might as well rip everything in there out and fix it right which may include a sump pump, water sealing, and maybe even some digging around your foundation if not this problem will reoccur.

Time to breakout the flextape.

I do not recommend a homeowner do their own drywall, especially if they're techie people and not handsy people. People who don't work with their hands often can't even be trusted to hang the rock. Finishing it is an art, and you really need a hopper and compressor to apply texture.

@@billybobjoe198 LOL, almost any idiot can tape and mud sheetrock. It's rather forgiving, any imperfections in the mud can be sanded out. If you sand too much, you just apply more mud. As for texture, his walls don't have it so why are you even mentioning it? Watching some DIY vids is all you really need to patch a section. BTW, I'm also a "techie" among other things.

@@madmatt2024 As someone who's been doing this for 10 years. I would bet I'd cringe at your drywall work. Either that or you'd spend weeks doing what professionals could only make a living doing in a day.

​@@billybobjoe198 Well someone seems to think a little too much of themselves and their menial job today. I guarantee 9/10 people couldn't tell the difference between my work and your work. I've done autobody work as well which shows every tiny imperfection, sheet rock is cake compared to it. Very DIY friendly. You just want to scare people away so you can make money.

@@madmatt2024 It's not about having a big head over anything, it's just honesty. Even some professionals do junk work. Working on a wall with no texture is far harder than one with it. Texture hides imperfections. If you can't tell, my avatar is a cam gear. I've done my share of body work. DIY drywall is a lot like DIY bodywork. Most people don't have the skill set or patience required to do it. I'm just trying to save people the time and money to have a professional do it the first time.

Yeah first thing I thought is they're making a sucker out of him. Waterproofing basements are a common thing

Thats exactly what I thought, 7k to install a drainage system which will inevitably block up over time and not only that but with how little an amount of water is flowing, is basically useless. He'd be better of drill out the rebar all the way round and either putting in new rebar that has been painted or just concreting up the holes and then waterproofing all the way around. Either way 7k to put in a drainage system seems steep to me.

I think there is better ways aswel, sorry can't be arsed to write a long story of what to do tho lol. The OP was close enough.

I agree you never want to do the fix on the inside of the house that just leads to more issues. In this case it could be block drainage or added moisture in the room from the water evaporating while it is in the room. You always want to seal your house from the outside. Like you wouldn't fix a leaky roof by diverting the water once it is goes through your roof! Not sure what the 40K estimate was for but that sounds like a scare tactic to me. You need to get some more quotes form people that would do that kind of work not someone trying to sell you something else. You don't have to seal the whole foundation at once. You can do the problem area to start and then work on the rest of the house. As you are already talking about doing work yourself you can dig the hole next to the foundation. You could seal it yourself if you don't feel comfortable with that you can have someone else do it for you. I know it's a frightening thing and you want it fixed now, but take the time get more quotes and you will be better off.

By your tone / wording I envisaged a friendly john wayne cowboy type offering construction advice . nice work partner!

@kim Dierichsen Clearly you spent too much time on your reply lol

kim Dierichsen then how much money is too much?

kim Dierichsen do u think metaljesus would have a chance to spend his patreon money before he died?

I approve this comment even if this is more a builder that he needs !

this is not wooden jesus im afraid

I choose the latter. He went to Japan shortly after this happened. How was he able to do that if that leak was too expensive to fix?

This guy spent that money on his vacation. Thats what people get for giving this beggar money.

The fact that he’s asking for money while recording all of his video games proves it’s the latter.

lol

A moat... I’m sure you’re joking but standing water in an enclosed area underground, surrounded by metal and electronics?

I like your idea.thumbs up pal.

LMAO

Sounds metal. I'm in.

Mold spores are literally on everything. They only become apparent and grow under certain conditions i.e. warm and moist.

Did this with my front room after a pipe leak in the walls works well.

Agree. Get those games out of that room! That’s a library and it needs preserved!

id suggest a purifier too if you dont already have one in order to stop the mold spores from spreading too much, although its prob far too late for that, but still get one.

Lol

If the holiday is already booked and paid for, why lose another £3-4k?

And he remains silent

@Mezzy Mez I don't fully remember the video but I remember enough. His wife works she went with him probably. I'm sure that others went with him like Kinsey who also works. Not many people are able to book vacation time with 3 weeks notice, let alone 2 or more people. So the question is "is it reasonable to assume than multiple people who work full time career driven jobs are able/would get their vacation time approved at such short notice and then book a trip half way around the world?" The answer is no, it is not reasonable to assume that.

@@nagalive9637 If you cannot plan a vacation 3 weeks in advance, then you must work at a very shitty job, tbh. I hand in my planned vacation times in January. Oh, and I plan the vacations together with my wife, who also works. So, time for you to move on to a better job, bro.

Totally not suspicious or anything lol

JustinBrownGames yes. And I hope he reads these comments. Get your stuff out of there

definitely need to remove the stuff out of the room . When they mud the drywall theres going to be alot of dust.

Yes the dust could really damage everything. I would advise not to just cover with plastic either

Also it makes it a hell of a lot easier to work when you have space. I hate trying to fix things when you have somebody try to move the least amount of stuff out of the way, how am I suppose to fix it if I barely have enough room for me let alone my tools

Removing the entire collection seems like overkill, I would create a chamber with plastic for half the room, that's allot of stuff to move...

I would say the same, remove everything, put in a rental container or move to another house if you can.

@@PolluxBR Or just move it to another part of the house, if there is enough space for that.

Tarps maybe???

Or send it to my house

Also someone from working crew may take game or two, you never know

I don't see why this couldn't just be "drilled and filled" from the inside. If the problem is rusted-out hangers, then drilling them out and filling with patch concrete would both seal the hole and prevent weakening in the wall. Am I missing something here?

@@timhaines3877 yep, exactly!

Tim Haines It totally could, hell it would be a basic enough DIY job for even the most untrained of people.

Tim Haines seems logical

A sloping water drain is imperative 👍

I don't need to go further, best comment ever on this !

Lol

You should not have said that

Fuckin idiot

J J yeah it is. everyone wants to see their house rot away.. lol

@@garystinten9339 its NO funny a house is expensive and it's your only shelter unless you own a rv (or something else like that) because you cannot live in ur car (in Wisconsin, not sure about other states but i know in Wisconsin it is illegal to sleep in yur car)

Doug D'Marco From our research when this happened to us, there are solutions out there for interior drainage that are compatible with finished basements that place an impermeable membrane over the concrete with spacers builtin that allow water to run down the foundation wall to reach the drainage trench but keep the moisture away from the interior space, the drainage trenches are also more or less sealed to that impermeable layer thus keeping the moisture trapped between the impermeable layer and foundation wall. But I’m a bit puzzled as to what is being proposed where only the bottom four feet of wall are removed unless that is the level at which all the tie-in anchors are located at and they are assuming no water intrusion above the four foot mark is possible, plus the finished wall would ordinarily need to be torn out and rebuilt a few inches further out from where it presently is to account for the drainage trench, so not quite sure what is being proposed. That said, the absolute gold standard by far is digging up the foundation walls to permanently seal them so as to keep the water from getting in to begin with, but that is both costly and sometimes not a possibility (such as two foundation walls built too closely together) and was the route we ultimately went. Digging up the exterior walls also permits replacement of the weeping tile and foundation drainage system, which often becomes choked with sediment over time.

Wont that shrink the basement ? It appears his studs are directly against the cement walls from the video. If his whole basement is like that, he might need to re-frame the whole basement to move it a inch or 2 away from the walls on each side... That will end up costing more than $7k....

the interior drain trench is a terrible idea, fix the concrete, keep water from wall before it gets there. i would never want to buy a house with that solution.

interesting. I dont really see how normal people are supposed to gage a fair price unless they call like 3 or 4 different companies

I agree with GameHammer. The "solution" offered by your expert will not solve your problem. You should try to keep the water outside. A good method is this de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braune_Wanne (sorry there is no english version of this article). You basicly put a layer of bentonite (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentonite) around your walls and it becomes waterproof. You said there haven't been problems before. So you can assume that now the water accumulates because of the change in your frontyard. If the sewerage is on a lower level than your basement a drain could be an solution. This should cost less than 4000$. I studied this stuff but didn't work in this field for years. But in generell it is always better to keep the water outside. Get a second opinion.

how much would it cost that?

That’s how you do it in Canada to do it right. The price Metal Jesus is paying is quite steep in my experience. Maybe in Seattle they pay insane prices?

Thats the only way to do it! That drainage behind the dry Wall wass the dumbest idea i ever heard.

French drain?

Tony Marshall and I have no real idea but having a small stream of water running by the Sheetrock I’m sure can cause mold issues in itself, maybe?

I agree, it's a big expense but you fix the issue instead of just the symptoms. I would bite the bullet get a home loan and completely fix it. I say this as I actively look for a house.

This. The solution they're offering fixes nothing and will only lead to more long term trouble. Nip it in the bud now or the house will be condemned before you know it.

I agree. Dealing with the issue at the root cause which is the outside is better than trying to stop the issue at the end point. Unfortunately and I would hazard to guess his problems are not only in that corner. By the looks of the mold; it has been an issue for some time. I suspect water has probably moved along paths in the basement yet unknown. He literally needs to empty his basement, rip all that carpet out and the underlay; and check for cracks and separations in the floor. Which will be tell-tale signs of water travelling along the foundation floor of the basement. Outside they need to dig down, right to the foundation bottom, seal and then apply a vapor barrier. Also lay down proper levels of rock with a drainage that follows to the lower level line of the property to drain water away from the home. Where he had the driveway done, they need to pull out that awning drain and I bet the contractor just has it draining right into the ground at the corner of the house; instead of running it along the driveway to end at the street. Gonna cost more than $7-10k for sure. But if he bites the bullet now; it will be for the better. Also in the basement; do a proper raised floor. That way if there is any sort of flooding, or draining back up from an appliance such as a washer in the basement it can go down a drain. Which a basement should have and a sump pump.

Yeah, right, invest in the foundation so it can outlast the rest of the house, and your life. Give me a fucking break. He's not going to be living there for 40 more years, and it won't add to the value of the house anywhere near what it costs to have done.

Brian Mata Your so naughty

Too soon. Lol

I get what your trying to do....but mold isn't a gem so thats a big 💩 from me

THIS

Yup, get rid of that carpet entirely. Lay down some hardwood, vinyl flooring, or seal the concrete and have large rugs in your seating areas for comfort.

Also, that sand looking carpet is fugly.

Agreed. Get rid of carpet asap.

Agreed. The pain of moving everything again will suck, but you'll be more prepared for issues in the future and you get a chance to rearrange everything from scratch should you want. Wall mount the TV for more consoles on top, wire speakers through the walls, etc. Make this situation a positive, game room 2.0

My parents had to pay around 10k to have a similar problem fixed on their lawn. I know it sounds fucked but it's not that uncommon.

The dude has 612 Patreons with a 2 dollar buy-in minimum - He's most likely got the money for this shit already.

@Brandon Kick If it's his main source of income, then he ain't doing much.

@Brandon Kick I have watched professional tutorials on how to edit videos, and I've also used source filmmaker to edit animations. All you need to do for these simple video edits is to cut when you want a scene to start and when to end a scene. If it requires a lot of work, then you're doing something wrong. Vloggers edit videos every day within short notice. What he's making here isn't Hollywood movies, it doesn't require professional grade editing.

@Brandon Kick "I'd be interested to know how many HOURS of processing work go into a single 15 min video that you wind up seeing here." Then go do some googling.

Uncle Silver Gaming lol

Is PS1 classic replacing Virtual boy in "at least its not as bad as..." ??

MetalJesusSucks, an Rich of ReviewCuckUSA were blowing it way out of proportion and just being Negative for the sake of being negative. PS Classic is Pretty Good, and not nearly as bad as people are saying. Its Better than Atari Flashback, about equal to C64 Mini, its pretty much standard with these types of console boxes.

Niku Sama I agree he should do the excavator method and get multiple quotes. The first thing I thought with this mold issue though is that he needs to see what’s covered under his homeowners insurance. Stuff like this is the reason why you get insurance.

Time to call in the Metal Jesus Crew and hand each of them a shovel. Get that yard dug up on the cheap! Just buy beer.

@@SumDumGy oh yea that's would be held the cost there. Don't forget to call before you dig!

Also agree, major storm one night, raining heavy for 24 hours, lose power after a few hours... all that money spent inside is not going to help that much. Fix it right, do a external barrier. Odd are he does not even real all the comments...

Control Room I have always thought that every time he did a game room tour. My basement flooded as well and I lost a lot, everything above a couple feet was fine, so please metaljesus AT LEAST keep expensive things away from the ground just in case.

Nearly all basements leak at some point. It may be best to avoid using the wall that's totally underground as part of the finished basement. Sorry you are going though this.

Buy a storage container throw it in your back yard and rhino liner the inside of the container then trench a power line bam the coolest new space for a awesome game room tops 4K

Moviebob also lost his Nintendo Power collection that way. You're right, it's some precarious shit.

@@hezekiahramirez6965 At least it was Moviebob and not a decent person.

Actually he was a mason. No trees were he lived.

What about _Metal_ Jesus? A welder?

I thought similarly. No guarantees, but definitely worth a shot.

That is not a covered peril (at least in Illinois). Used to sell property and casualty insurance, for this to be covered the homeowner NEEDS the water and sewage backup endorsement.

It depends. Most home owners insurance just covers appliances like water heaters, furnaces, deep freezers, etc. however, when my sump pump failed and flooded my basement a bit, I was told that nothing besides those things and electrical are covered. No carpet, drywall or personal items are covered. Even buying actual flood insurance won’t help since that was devised decades ago before finished basements were big. Though it may cover and repairs to the foundation and he’d have to foot the bill for the rest. Also, they cover internal issues like plumbing leaks and water heater failing and external issues like flooding and leaks from the outside differently.

Ours did when our bathroom leaked. The repair was at least ten grand. We had to cut the check first and Allstate gave us the money back about a couple months later.

Stained concrete is good too.

@Sursurk You can always use rugs for comfort.

Rugs or slippers are the way to go

@Daniel W He can always get a space heater.

@Daniel W Yep whoever is suggesting not to use carpet doesn't live in a northern state/country ha. Tile gets so cold in the winter.

Ready for action boss 😄😄

Lol!

Some Dig Dug action

Thumb this up.

Instructions unclear, now playing Shovel Knight

bunch of sheeps

Lol their Japan trip probably wasn’t very expensive. They seemed to budget very well. You just hatin!

yeah dude that's silly. He never asked for anything in this video--neither explicitly or otherwise. Also, a trip to japan with a bunch of people sharing air bnbs--not that expensive.

@DeplorableGerman1973 no need to apologize. You said it well.

@@Neocasturn you would know cause u been to japan an his contractor lmao

Exactly and the foundation will continue to deteriorate. Just because the water has some place to go doesn’t fix the underlying issue. 40k seems awfully high.

Exactly! Absolutely mental way of doing this! Get another contractor in.

The best way is to fix the exterior foundation but the excavation costs is the issue in combination with the foundation repair so maybe he will have to do a home equity loan to cover the massive repair. Otherwise it is just a temporary fix that will eventually need to be repaired fully. I would research the lower cost fix to see how long it would last potentially.

I agree water is a sob, if you gonna fix it do it right

Definitely agree.

He seems to be ok with this kind of work. I, on the other hand, am not lol. I would end up paying more in the end to have someone fix my mistakes :) Not everyone is cut out for these things. Even with tutorials. There are a lot of factors that can make it difficult since a youtube video can't account for every single home construction.

Supamawiio the Mobile Gamer completely agree with you. It is a great sense of pride when you fix it yourself. Just finished remodeling our house. Did floors painting electrical all ourselves. Saved a fortune.

Hanging sheetrock is really easy- I used to do it part time. At least he doesn't have to do the ceiling....

Haha yea ceilings suck but we need to get this comment to the top he really needs to see this diy is easy as hell

Yeah,.. Carpet in a basement no bueno.. Thats the least of jesus worries.. But yeah i agree maybe a rug in frony of sofa.. And the rest tile

If you have a good pump and let it check every 2 years its not that often that they fail. Iam a plumber/ pipelayer here in Germany and the pumps from some customers are already 20+ years what ive heard from older workers in the company

My first pump lasted 16 years. I replaced it this year just to be safe. I also added a battery backup pump as well as a moisture sensor that alerts my cell phone if the sump pit overflows. Then for the icing on the cake I added an 8000 watt Generac generator that comes on automatically if my power goes out that runs all my essential stuff like the sump, freezers, furnace, internet, etc. Then I made sure my insurance policy covered flooding. I'm set now, but I had to do it because I just spent thousands finishing my basement. Only other thing I could add is maybe a water powered pump in case my generator and my battery backup pump fail at the same time. If that happens I'll just burn the house down.

Trying to rip off money

I have 2 sump pumps in my basement and both lasted 20ish years before they had to be replaced. I'm currently on year 4 of the two new ones without any problems at all. I'd be knee deep in water without them.

Thats awesome that your guys pumps lasted so long, unfortunately they just aren't made as well as they used to be. Even Zoeller and liberty pumps only last about 5 to 10 years max. The issue with pumps also is that you're still allowing water to get through your foundation that will cause spaulding and major cracks over time because the soil will he washed away and water eats up concrete. Most houses in Seattle were built with a french drain style footing drain. They are one ft. Sections of drain tile that over time gets filled with dirt. That system can be restored or replaced cheaply and you're eliminating the problem not just putting a band aid on it. I could never in good conscious recommend a pump. For him to say it would cost anywhere what he said is a flat out lie.

Jenovi I agree, he’s really great at documenting & editing things. You can see it in his E3 videos too

I concur.

@@neogenesis7706 damn, I'm pretty sure that jenovi was being condescending. Seemed like he was making a joke about this blatant cash grab. But I could be giving jenovi to much credit. Idk

Who gives a shit if he’s using it as a cash opportunity? This is his job lol. I don’t think he was making a joke, MJR genuinely has a knack for making videos. Puts a lot of thought in to them and even made me feel entertained over a flooded basement

You would need some thing that could hold back high water pressure.

That or do tile floors with panneled walls. Drywall sucks at keeping mold out lol, the backface of drywall is super porous normally. THIS IS WHY WE NEED TO GO BACK TO TREATED LOG AND STONE HOUSES LIKE THE OLD DAYS! lol

@@lashed1980 flex seal lol 🤣😂

@@jibb1451 or proper isolation. Houses in Europe have 5feet of black tar on the outer walls to prevent water coming in (at least nowadays)

@@stripcat1 Zinnser water tite, Dulux cellar paint. What ever you wanna call it.

@Mezzy Mez LMAO

All on the carpet you want the higher end stuff is better

Flex Seal is a HUGE ripoff! I paid $12.99 to fix my living room carpet 2 months back and it did nothing. It annoyed me that day!

I just sawed this basement in half!

NOW THAT'S ALOTTA DAMAGE

You can't just seal it. That water sitting in the foundation will destroy it. I assume he lives somewhere that doesn't get frost also. Because that is an even bigger problem.

I agree, no more carpet. Vinyl Plank is pretty nice and easy to do yourself.

that will be his issue soon enough

Actually for the concrete structure in modern construction, a plastic cup would be placed to the two ends of ties in order to leave a small room for grouting to seal up the hole formed by the ties. But the hole should be filled up by finishing even at 60s, in fact the construction is quite substandard at that time

Still have a nice scar from catching my arm on one of those f***ers

@@broforce2476 Hmm. Even back then. As mentioned my Parent's first new house didn't have that done either (1978), and they leaked when it rained hard. Thanks for the info!

Now comes the pain in the ass of juggling contractors.

Insurance doesn’t covered finished basements or any contents within outside of major appliances (furnace, water heater, washer/dryer, freezers and electrical systems). Everything else is repaired/replaced out of pocket.

Wow. If you guys are right on the technicalities of home owner insurance, it sounds like the insurance industry is a scam.

Insurance doesn’t cover finished basements or personal items within. Maybe if something catastrophic happened to cause the leak they would cover repairs, but not his games, furniture, carpet or drywall. Same thing with federal flood insurance.

Yea unless it was caused by a burst pipe or appliance you are usually shit out of luck with insurance.

Check with your agent to see if you have any coverage. If it is a water proofing issue it would most likely be denied as a claim. You might be able to issue a claim against the contractor who put down your parking pad, they should have insurance if they are a reputable company as they caused a drainage issue. All the games with exposed cardboard should be taking out until the mold is fixed, as the spores and moisture could cause damage. Also, you should put in an air scrubber and dehu during the process to keep the moisture levels down and spores from from going all through out the house. Cover duct vents in the basement as well to avoid cross contamination.

FireMrshlBill is that a standard thing in the US? My home insurance in Canada has always fully covered my basement and all belongings within.

FireMrshlBill depends on the type of loss , the insurance carrier and the State.

rick ardo Agreed. And if any part of the interior drain system fails you won’t know because it’s not accessible. You could have an even bigger mess on your hands that you wouldn’t be able to see it.

SilverX95 it had those metal ties that were already rusting so it doesn’t matter about paving the driveway. It was going to happen no matter what. Those things are terrible and more times than not cause this problem

In my experience, not usually.

you'd never get back remotely close to what you would want be it value or the items itself.

It won't video games are very tricky

Most insurance does not cover finished basements. Same thing with the federally backed flood insurance that was written prior to finished basements being common. Maybe it would cover the leak repairs, but not the carpet, drywall or personal items. Usually just covers appliances like furnaces, water heaters, freezers and electrical, but that’s about it. After my sump pump failed and I found out the hard way (luckily just had to pay for my carpets to be cleaned and basement dehumidified since it was small and I caught it immediately), that changed my mind on doing a basement home theater.

Other comments have made it quite plain that they're making a sucker out of him by putting in drainage, but not fixing the outside. As someone else said; you don't just divert water after it leaks through your roof, you fix your roof! Big box hardware stores sell rebar and concrete, so he could easily rent a concrete drill to remove the material, pack concrete in, and jam a piece of rebar through. Once it cures, dig out the outside, ass drainage stones, and seal it up.

truuu

Flood Damage is an added rider to home owners insurance. People don't realize that's not covered under home owner insurance unless you pay extra for it. Also seems to be a common problem in the WA Seattle area, when a house can't sell because of the lack of remediation work in the basement. www.washingtonpost.com/news/where-we-live/wp/2015/07/08/basement-flooding-may-put-a-damper-on-your-home-sale/?.851ae200879c

lol insurances even covered they don't pay

@@readysetsleep this wouldn't even qualify as "flood damage" this is water intrusion.

@@justwait9822 This is from the Allstate website. Read the section WHAT TYPES OF WATER DAMAGE ARE NOT COVERED - Homeowners insurance does not cover certain types of water damage. Over saturated ground falls into the "flood damage." www.allstate.com/tr/home-insurance/water-damage.aspx

Yes I was thinking this too lol id just cement it and make a trench leading to the driveway into the road

jdott v good info