OH OHHH ❗🛑 DEONTAY WILDER VS ANTHONY JOSHUA FACES A HURDLE OVER NEW AMERICAN CHALLENGER 😳

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Ай бұрын

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@wizardssleeve6049
@wizardssleeve6049 Ай бұрын
The biggest hurdle is Wilder can't box a lick.
@kryten6569
@kryten6569 Ай бұрын
True but he can hit
@macweed3358
@macweed3358 Ай бұрын
Aj has never wanted that smoke funny how undisputed never happened aj is a manufactured hype job cherry picker
@AlexanderStHill
@AlexanderStHill Ай бұрын
Stupid comment
@AlexanderStHill
@AlexanderStHill Ай бұрын
@@macweed3358totally agree
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
Yes that's true. He's bloody awful.
@wizardssleeve6049
@wizardssleeve6049 Ай бұрын
All Wilder did ''back in the day'' was beat cans after losing every round.
@AlexanderStHill
@AlexanderStHill Ай бұрын
So did Joshua
@wizardssleeve6049
@wizardssleeve6049 Ай бұрын
@@AlexanderStHill After 30 fights ? Get real. How thick ru, extremely or af ?
@wolefatunmbi9727
@wolefatunmbi9727 Ай бұрын
@@wizardssleeve6049 😂😂😂😂😂Bums kwaddddd !
@emmanuelyambo4143
@emmanuelyambo4143 Ай бұрын
@@AlexanderStHillstill peddling nonsense!! You seriously believe that Wilders resume is better than Joshua?
@ryananderson2207
@ryananderson2207 Ай бұрын
The biggest hurdle is Zhang smashing his face in and knocking him out. I don’t think any of the other fights matter because Zhang will take him out
@elderyashah
@elderyashah Ай бұрын
Wilder is terrified of Joshua. It's amazing to me that anybody thinks he actually wants that fight.
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
Is that why Joshua has been saying he wasn't ready for Wilder since 2017?
@bobbybasnight3124
@bobbybasnight3124 Ай бұрын
He wants the AJ bag but doesn’t want to get the beatdown that’s coming with it. Then he has to live the rest of his life everybody knowing all that blah blah blah he was talking…….Wuz Straight Up BS
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
@@bobbybasnight3124 so why was it Joshua's team saying he wasn't ready for Wilder all last year? You delusional Joshua Fanboys pretend like everybody is scared of Joshua meanwhile Joshua was being advised to stay away from Wilder 😂😂
@tonylyons9772
@tonylyons9772 Ай бұрын
Iv always said that from day one BUT i am thinking that wilder would now take the AJ fight knowing it’ll be more money than he’s ever seen before then he can get demolished retire & go live his life,he wouldn’t be doing interviews with the LDBC after getting smoked & banged out cold he’s gonna be off living life,but that’s how i see it but only if money means that much to wilder cos if it’s not about the money then yeah he ain’t fighting AJ
@dmo7594
@dmo7594 Ай бұрын
Wilder is too delusional to fear AJ. The man wanted to fight Parker after AJ vs Wallin because he thought it would make AJ anxious. 😂😂😂
@billkeaveney1526
@billkeaveney1526 Ай бұрын
Wilder needs to fight. He talks a lot but never delivers.
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s Ай бұрын
To much hype around Wilder and Fury, everyone fight everyone and we see who's who, not speculate. For my money, Usyk and AJ seem to want to fight the best fighters 🤔
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
Yet it was Joshua swerving fights with Wilder last year in favor of facing unranked Jermaine Franklin and Robert Helenius but you say he wants to fight the best? Joshua has literally only fought 3 tune ups and Otto Wallin since losing to Usyk and now that he can't handpick his opponents anymore he magically doesn't want to be as active as he was before
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s Ай бұрын
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy I think you'll find Wilder turned down the AJ fight a admitted that last time in Ryhad
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
@@user-gx1lc4qn5s Stop lying Joshua is on video saying he was gonna avoid Wilder as early as 2017 And last year it was Joshua's OWN team repeatedly saying he wasn't ready for Wilder and needed a few tune ups The best that you got is Wilder's tweet when he was talking about a rematch he had already promised Tyson Fury after the draw they had
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s Ай бұрын
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy not lying bro, I would like to see the best fight the best as I'm sure you would. Right?
@Casuals_nightmare
@Casuals_nightmare Ай бұрын
​@@user-gx1lc4qn5sleave that casual alone. He's always spreading lies and absolutely know nothing about boxing
@adariepennant3389
@adariepennant3389 Ай бұрын
Jared Anderson vs joseph parker would be great next.💯🥊
@marcust123
@marcust123 Ай бұрын
Why would parker go backwards in his career to fight him wtf
@ademolaaderoju1101
@ademolaaderoju1101 Ай бұрын
After beating Wilder and Zhang, he should go back to fight Jared? No way!!
@xtopherjdee4957
@xtopherjdee4957 Ай бұрын
The fight will NEVER happen!! Why we continue talking about this phantom fight is beyond me
@dmo7594
@dmo7594 Ай бұрын
One way or another Wilder isnt going to be ready to fight Anderson. Zhang is too dangerous for Wilder to escape the ring unscathed.
@bobgarrett7134
@bobgarrett7134 Ай бұрын
Joshua always wanted Wilder. He'll definitely fight him next if Deontay can score the upset. We've seen Zhang get outboxed twice in recent history, but he's a significant favorite over the American. The 4 major boxing orgs are giving Wilder little respect in the rankings. Zhang fought a competitive fight vs Parker and landed some great shots. Both Zhang and Wilder will be stressing cardio. Zhang knows he didn't drive the pace vs Parker. He was lazy. He's unhappy with his effort. I expect him to get after it like crazy for this fight. Deontay? He's failed to deliver in several critical fights. What can change? He needs to add some muscle to that skinny frame. Parker knocked him around like a cruiserweight. He needs the muscular heft he carried for Fury III, he was ahead after 6. He needs the cardio he had for Stiverne 1, where he threw 621 punches. He threw a listless 204 vs Parker -- or 17 a round. He was sleepwalking.
@user-gx1lc4qn5s
@user-gx1lc4qn5s Ай бұрын
I think Zhang beats Wilder.
@paulrovo9935
@paulrovo9935 Ай бұрын
On June 1st will be the ticket for Wilder for AJ fight. Everyone wants to see Wilder vs AJ . Not Dubious or hrgovic or Zhang
@wizardssleeve6049
@wizardssleeve6049 Ай бұрын
Twerkelicious wll get laid out by Zhang, he's chronic.
@miket1210
@miket1210 Ай бұрын
Lies, everybody wants to see any of those fights however after Parker dominated Wilder Joshua vs Zhang or Hrgovic is far more interesting.
@leonardcharles59
@leonardcharles59 Ай бұрын
Wilder is not perceived the way he used to be, which is a hurdle and can only be cleared if he can beat Zhang. Zhang is a big, strong heavyweight , not the best fighter in the heavyweight division or the most versatile, but Deontay Wilder has done little or nothing since his loss(es) to Tyson Fury to boost even his own fans confidence that he is a promisiing heavyweight with viable options anymore.
@Lee-fc3yf
@Lee-fc3yf Ай бұрын
AJ wants the IBF belt then Undisputed, noone cares one jot about Wilder he's finished.
@Severloh1944
@Severloh1944 Ай бұрын
The thing is Wilder is a cherry pick. He's not on AJ's level. Still I'd pay to watch it
@sasforex5917
@sasforex5917 Ай бұрын
Id like to see Anderson vs kabeyel.
@274halo
@274halo Ай бұрын
The thing is the Wider inactivity was his own fault. All that messing arround with Andy Ruiz they should have got a few knock arround opposition just to keep active. Wilder if he loses to Zhang I can't see how this fight will ever happen. Or worst he fights and looses to Anderson.
@lafarruspennington5831
@lafarruspennington5831 Ай бұрын
Wilder should have stayed active all this time.....
@user-nu2lr3xd7b
@user-nu2lr3xd7b Ай бұрын
Styles make fights Wilder is still dangerous 💥
@orestmakar8562
@orestmakar8562 Ай бұрын
Win or lose Wilder has to be on top of his game. He has to look competative. He has to stay out of range and use his jab to set up the right hand. If Zang is able to move on the inside its game over.
@tonylyons9772
@tonylyons9772 Ай бұрын
Your bang on Kurt that’s what i think
@therealc.t.7085
@therealc.t.7085 Ай бұрын
Only way Wilder fights Anderson in August would be if he somehow managed to take Zhang out in the first couple of rounds without taking damage.
@Thanosdidtherighthing
@Thanosdidtherighthing 26 күн бұрын
Hes 38. I think he’s trying to get as many fights as he can the next two years.
@greysson2933
@greysson2933 Ай бұрын
I don't understand how Wilder can be expcted to fight Anderson after Zhang. The Zhang fight is June 1st, the Anderson fight would be 9 weeks after that; for context, a lot of camps run anywhere from 8-10 weeks. Even if we say Wilder has a modest recovery period after Zhang to recover (1-2 weeks) - and it could require longer if there's an injury, cut or tough fight - that means he'd be taking a very, very short camp to fight Anderson. The June 1st date for Wilder lines up perfectly to have a September fight instead, and we want to see AJ v Wilder before Wilder retires, something that's more than likely less than a handful of fights away.
@TAM.w39
@TAM.w39 Ай бұрын
I like how JP isnt in the reckoning, DD beat Miller ( the mouthpiece) and his first noted victory but he is in line for another title fight.
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways Ай бұрын
Wilder has to beat ZZ before he fights AJ. ZZ is at least a 60% chance of beating Wilder and has to still be regarded as the favorite. While Wilder will not be rusty for ZZ, ZZ is not tailor-made for Wilder. In fact, Wilder's style is tailor-made for ZZ! Wilder is not known for lateral movement nor his he known for constantly moving his head and body. That plays to ZZ's hands. Without that ZZ will not be drained of his physical and nervous energy.
@mikestunt77
@mikestunt77 Ай бұрын
I tend to agree to everything you have stated, that's why it could be a great victory for wilder and probably his last chance to get back on track.
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways Ай бұрын
@@mikestunt77 Last Chance Saloon for both fighters!
@mikestunt77
@mikestunt77 Ай бұрын
@@freedom4mealways Maybe, but in the case of zhang only for a matter of age, he proved to be good and willing also in the losses, while wilder in the parker match looked very poor in every single aspect except stamina.
@freedom4mealways
@freedom4mealways Ай бұрын
@@mikestunt77 The fighter who loses is finished!
@Supreme0757
@Supreme0757 Ай бұрын
Yup I agree
@nicholaslong7911
@nicholaslong7911 Ай бұрын
I'd like to see AJ vs Anderson
@lukewyeth1568
@lukewyeth1568 Ай бұрын
Jared isn't even close to ready for AJ
@MorningWoodFairy
@MorningWoodFairy Ай бұрын
AJ smokes Anderson. I want AJ vs Sanchez.
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
@@MorningWoodFairy Sanchez needs to get past Kabayel first, and if their last fights are anything to go by I can't see that happening.
@MorningWoodFairy
@MorningWoodFairy Ай бұрын
@@dogpoofairy2517 I didn't notice he's got an opponnent for may 18th. My fault. Have you seen Justis Huni? He looks like Kabayel's twin brother If he had one
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
@@MorningWoodFairy yes he does look similar. I was very impressed with Kabayel against Makhmudov, but much less impressed with Sanchez in his fight the same night. I don't know if Kabayel can be consistent. Could be a classic though.
@lafarruspennington5831
@lafarruspennington5831 Ай бұрын
The a big if wilder can get pass Zhang..
@ianjones5377
@ianjones5377 Ай бұрын
I personally dont care about wilder v joshua i spent to much of life caring about that fight sometimes is best to close that chapter of your life abd mive on 😂
@jamesakwarandu8264
@jamesakwarandu8264 Ай бұрын
No need to fight Wilder. Joshua has a date with undisputed
@user-ui8or8cq7l
@user-ui8or8cq7l Ай бұрын
Wilder should have his right hand tied behind his back and do nothing but Left Jab until he builds it to a lightening bolt piston like Larry Holmes. He cannot box--but anyone with a great jab and his power will win most of his fights.
@josephe9201
@josephe9201 Ай бұрын
We have to hear Jared Anderson first. I don’t see Wilder choosing Anderson over AJ win or lose
@boxing-12
@boxing-12 Ай бұрын
The right is right now is Wilder getting his baxide beaten by BIG bang Zhang
@rhysmarshall1105
@rhysmarshall1105 Ай бұрын
Wilder needs to earn the AJ fight and I dont think he can beat who would be considered good enough to do that
@mbsnyderc
@mbsnyderc Ай бұрын
Both Zhang and Wilder are getting past there prime, and they both started a pro career for money and that's still the point of them fighting I don't see ether winning a world title at this point.
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
Joshua shouldn't lower himself to fighting the one-trick pony bumslayer Wilder.
@lafarruspennington5831
@lafarruspennington5831 Ай бұрын
Get rid of Malik Scott and bring in a real boxing trainer someone who knows the game of boxing and can help wilder..
@-XKHAN-
@-XKHAN- Ай бұрын
Shiek is smart 4 this, Wilder fights Zhang an then in Aug fights Anderson, he beats both, the Joshua fight can be made, Fury an Usyk could potentially be tied up for 3 fights, and this is Tyson!! These 2 fights will take up this year, and next year, Fury may want a tune up in between, so Joshua will be waiting in the wings for at least 2 years, and Nov Joshua fighting setting up a clash between Joshua vs Wilder in Feb 2025 or a little later
@chrisesparon6973
@chrisesparon6973 Ай бұрын
CP to u Kurt
@jasonbrown4819
@jasonbrown4819 Ай бұрын
June 1st to Aug 3rd. That's like an 8-week turnaround for an 38 year old Wilder. That's a very ambitious schedule. I would much rather see Joshua vs. Wilder in September.
@greysson2933
@greysson2933 Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. 9 weeks to the day, and that just sounds like too much too soon for a 38 year old with known injuries (previous hand fractures, complained about his knee/leg after Fury 2 indicating wear and tear there as well) going into arguably the toughest fight of his career where he's liable to get hurt and need a fair bit of recovery time after. Frankly, even if Wilder loses I'd want to see him vs AJ (providing that he puts on a good performance) in September simply because I feel like Wilder's only got 3-4 fights left in him.
@jasonbrown4819
@jasonbrown4819 Ай бұрын
@greysson2933 I agree. Who would you like to see? Why not make Daniel Dubois vs. Jared Anderson?
@jasonbrown4819
@jasonbrown4819 Ай бұрын
@greysson2933 I agree. Who would you like to see? Why not make Daniel Dubois vs. Jared Anderson?
@demarques1911
@demarques1911 Ай бұрын
Nobody wants to see this fight until Wilder fires Malik and proves he's a threat again
@adriangriffith42
@adriangriffith42 Ай бұрын
I don't see it as cashing out. Win or lose to Zang, Wilder still needs to stay active until after the undisputed rematch. AJ will be held up by the IBF title campaign until the winner of Fury Usyk is done. By then, Wilder and Parker could be in the running to fight AJ after Fury.
@marcusmondia6935
@marcusmondia6935 Ай бұрын
Say if wilder and Phillip both won then who would be the best opponent for AJ? I say AJ picks Phillip over wilder for the IBF title.
@baldersn4474
@baldersn4474 Ай бұрын
Is anyone really interested now ? Wilders finished ...Total mismatch...
@danielfield7270
@danielfield7270 Ай бұрын
AJ v Wilder has passed its sell buy date.Still would be worth watching ,but it's not the best fight out there anymore.
@davidforbes5237
@davidforbes5237 Ай бұрын
I think Zhang is going to destroy Wilder.
@Lee-fc3yf
@Lee-fc3yf Ай бұрын
Wait what? AJ is fighting for the HW IBF title at Wembley from what has been mentioned if whoever becomes Undisputed is stripped after rematch clause is activated. So thats either Hrgovich or Dubois then his next fight will be for Undisputed. Where does Wilder who has Zhang problems fit into this narrative? Sounds like a load of garbage.
@Severloh1944
@Severloh1944 Ай бұрын
The Saudi's are keeping their options open. They are paying bucket loads to get undisputed. It would be reasonable to assume they want the rematch to be for undisputed as well. Which would mean if Usyk wins or if it's a draw that would allow Fury v AJ in September with IBF champ Usyk taking care of his mandatory Hrgovic. In the unlikely event Fury wins then we get AJ v Wilder
@Severloh1944
@Severloh1944 Ай бұрын
As for the undisputed rematch, I've not heard anyone say it's an immediate rematch.
@Lee-fc3yf
@Lee-fc3yf Ай бұрын
@@Severloh1944 Then he could very well fight for Undisputed which what Turki wants and has said a number of times
@Severloh1944
@Severloh1944 Ай бұрын
I hope AJ cherry picks Wilder. Wilder deserves it.
@macweed3358
@macweed3358 Ай бұрын
Yep he is good at cherry picking except the ruiz pick that went badly wrong
@Severloh1944
@Severloh1944 Ай бұрын
@@macweed3358 What can you do? Robberies happen. It's just as well Hearn had the sense to include a rematch clause
@dj_adam_g_uk
@dj_adam_g_uk Ай бұрын
​@@macweed3358that was a replacement mate, you really know nothing...
@macweed3358
@macweed3358 Ай бұрын
@@dj_adam_g_uk yea exactly a cherry pick gone wrong andy bashed him up real bad miller probably would have as well. He pushed him across the room like a ragdoll.
@dj_adam_g_uk
@dj_adam_g_uk Ай бұрын
@@macweed3358 how is a late replacement a cherry pick? You talk bare shii, who has miller beat that makes you think he'd beat aj?
@marcust123
@marcust123 Ай бұрын
Aj will duck yet again
@dj_adam_g_uk
@dj_adam_g_uk Ай бұрын
😂😂wilder has ducked how many tines?
@Mommy-Leaf
@Mommy-Leaf Ай бұрын
You mean Wilder will Duck AJ again? Like when he Ducked and Turned Down 150 Million Deal with DANZ back in 2021. to fight Fury for the Trilogy, He Has Been Ducking Jousha for years.
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
​@@Mommy-LeafYou mean the DAZN deal that was in 2019 NOT 2021, DAZN chairman Jon Skipper HIMSELF said they messed up and then talked about how they didn't have Joshua signed? 😂 Try again Joshua literally said he was gonna avoid Wilder for a few years back in 2017 until he felt like he could win
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
​@@dj_adam_g_ukAccording to YOU just the other day Joshua avoided Wilder because he didn't feel he was ready in 2017, lied about Wembley in 2018 just to fight somebody else at Wembley, and then DAZN messed up the deal and Joshua got owned by Ruiz Your BOY also avoided Wilder all last year another duck that you acknowledged the other day as well
@dj_adam_g_uk
@dj_adam_g_uk Ай бұрын
@@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy no, in your mind he avoided wilder, wilder never made an offer to be avoided 😂🤡 and wilder quickly announced the ortiz rematch before aj fought ruiz(literally 3 days before) just so he was busy incase aj won, why didnt he wait a few days to see the outcome?
@dickensopiyo6750
@dickensopiyo6750 Ай бұрын
Wilder will never recover he was all but a lie.He lacks quality.
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
Kurt it's past time for you to admit that Joshua DOESN'T WANT to fight Wilder and NEVER has. The top 3 Joshua fanboy and Eddie Hearn talking points that will be used if Wilder beats Zhang because they are scared of the Wilder v Joshua fight being made: 1. "Joshua doesn't need to fight Wilder/Wilder doesn't deserve to fight AJ" 2. "Joshua should go after the IBF belt instead" 3. "Joshua needs a tune up first to get ready for Wilder"
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
Wilder ducked Joshua for Fury.
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
@@dogpoofairy2517 Wilder chose Fury AFTER Joshua DUCKED The $50M and then DUCKED Wilder again at Wembley which wasn't supposed to be available but then fought Povetkin at Wembley instead. Embarrassing that Fury came back from a 3-year ban and a coke binge and got in the ring with Wilder before Mr "I'm not ready for Wilder yet" Joshua did
@dogpoofairy2517
@dogpoofairy2517 Ай бұрын
@@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Wilder admitted that he ducked Joshua for Fury.
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
@@dogpoofairy2517 No actually he didn't. He admitted to keeping his word and giving Fury the rematch after the draw like he promised he would do hence why the WBC sanctioned it days after the first fight. Joshua on the other hand admitted he was gonna avoid Wilder on multiple occasions and turned down Wilder even when Wilder conceded to all of Joshua's terms but as usual being the Joshua Fanboy you are you want to skip over all all of that and focus on Wilder's tweet while ignoring the context because that's the only thing you can try to twist into a narrative
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy
@BlackCloudIsMyDaddy Ай бұрын
@@dogpoofairy2517 "If you told me you were gonna retire in six months’ time, I’d tell you to fight Deontay Wilder now. If you tell me you’re in for the long run, I’d say that fight can only get bigger. And also, you don’t take chances, you don’t go to the other bloke’s backyard when you don’t need to. The money is insignificantly different.’ ” August 2018 Can you remind me who said this?
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