Thank you for sharing this story! I have no idea of what you actually had to do there, but enjoyed it very much nevertheless.

I can get pretty decent (considering) sound out of a Pioneer car head unit, via playing with the built-in 3 band parametric EQ, HPF and LPF. I would be totally lost even doing basic audio engineering, for a live show. I couldn't even fathom where to start dialing in equipment for a voice like Floor's. She has crazy pitch range and dynamic range. I bet after you successfully managed feedback for Floor, everyone else seemed like a walk in the park.

This is awesome!

@@horseshoe_nc hehehe, yeah could certainly say that, after Floor it somehow seemed all a lot easier lol

@@zaphod333 i'll give a quick description : Stage manager = the person who leads the stage crew, the crew does the microphones and setup, as well as hands-on stuff when needed during a show (mic falling over, they will put it back) the manager also makes sure the band gets on stage on time, everything is ready for use, and that crew members are in place. He's basically the boss of the stage. Front of House (FoH) is a fancy bit of words to describe the mixing desk facing the stage, where a sound technician will do the mixing of the instruments and vocals, for everyone to hear in the audience. This job is visible for everyone, ever been to a concert, you've seen the FoH setup. And the monitors are the big speakers on stage that are directed at the singer and other musicians, each of these speakers is controlled separate from each other so each musician only hears what he/she needs to hear to do their job. The singers will usually have their own voice and the drum kit (the beat) on their monitor, sometimes they want the bass and/or guitar as well, but usually they want as little as possible so they can focus on their vocals better. That is in short, more or less what the terms stand for. :)

Color correcting a sunset -- damn, that is precisely it.

💯 Agree. FLOOR'S a Gifted Singer..She doesn't need help.

Brittany Slays "Hold my Beer". I Love Floor and the genre but I am more of a power metal person. Brittany Slays (Unleash the Archers) is starting to be known as the Floor Jansen of Power Metal. If you have never heard her check out "Tonight we Ride".

Old one but still working and fun, lol!

@@kenb4530 if shes known as the floor of metal, tell me who is the greatest? i love unleash the archers tho

Duuude....you have a lot of listening to catch up on. The band, Nightwish, has been performing since 96. But they didn't add Floor Jansen until 2013, right after their performance at Wäcken. Floor had been performing for several years with two other bands before she was invited to join NW as a guest vocalist. NW had heard of Floor and Floor was a fan of NW. The timing was perfect as Floor was actually on hiatus from her band (recovering from burnout). If I could be so bold as to suggest... Nightwish at Wäcken in 2013 has been described as "magical". In front of 82000+ adoring fans they created a musical experience that has rarely been equalled. The musicianship, the stage production, the exchanged energy and the stunning vocals... You'll never be the same. GHOST LOVE SCORE is most often utilized as an introduction to Nightwish, and Floor Jansen. But you could experience any track from this show and still be moved. Once introduced to Nightwish, you'll be thrust into the living arms of the Nightwish Army. An amazing community to be part of.

Find Greatest Show On Earth. OMG

If you want to see more of her range and talent I’ve put some links down below that cover her day job with NightWish,her Beste Zangers songs and her Quarantine covers and a bit of genuine opera thrown in for good measure.Nightwish..... How’s The Heart (amazing acoustic performance) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7-knrOhq7_ef6M.html Ghost Love Score:Epic and beautiful kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gL-afM95vKilhqM.html I Want My Tears Back kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ncddm7VoqL_Gp4We.html...Celtic Rock vibe Romanticide....Heavy kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sOCParJ0qLfQiKc.html, Last Ride Of The Day...Pure fun and energy httpkzfaq.info/get/bejne/apuSpd11r7G-Y6Om.html://kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h-B5gNtoqdfFj4E.html Greatest Show On Earth...Epic kzfaq.info/get/bejne/apuSpd11r7G-Y6M.html Sleeping Sun...Beautiful ballad kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNmfp8-r15_bfqs.html EverDream...poppy rock kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j913hqR3xtisgps.html Shudder Before The Beautiful...Heavy kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdWBa9Z_uL-8nYU.html Yours Is An Empty Hope...Very heavy with Floor growling 😊 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtqIpLh_p57eook.html Poet And The Pendulum...Epic kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nciebKqU37-mm6s.html Weak Fantasy...Heavy kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7RiZpyBx9fGmqM.html Ghost River...Heavy(ish) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZpuVnNeVkqulZn0.html Song Okzfaq.info/get/bejne/orelaLSbzsqsh5uZ.html Myself...Heavy AF Seven Days To The Wolves... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jtyjmdpytci7iJc.html If you want a hard rocking Floor check out Disdain by her old band Revamp.... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qq-hrbOJ386ppas.html If you want something compldifferent but still Symphonic Metal then try Sancta Terra by Epica which has Floor as guest vocalist in a duet with Epica’s female vocalist Simone Simmons...awesome stuff(They Use a full orcheustra as backing in that one) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/md5iZbymz5jSqps.html Floors quarantine covers Alone kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z8ylYNyBm9ead58.html Oblivion kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sK1do9ej0bCYoIE.html Adagio kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gcCCe699spylhWg.html Let it go kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptJ2pKRhs7PelKc.html Ave Maria kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fsiSa6uottuto6M.html Is Dit Nou Later kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qcpyrNeDsJjSgX0.html Euphoria kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fLVymtWh0LWthnk.html Floor’s Beste Zangers 2019 Phantom Of The Opera: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ptJzhsab26qzeoE.html I Don’t Know A Thing About Love: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l86pnsRyta7Mo2w.html Mama: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdBhnMWL19C1hKc.html Que Se Siente: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/esyJmK-G1NfbYHk.html Vilja Lied: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/osl8epiJls-WgYE.html Winner: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qtqWhNSf2NG4f2w.html Shallow(duet): kzfaq.info/get/bejne/abaWaruVmK-6pIk.html And something extra,O Mio Babbino Caro: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i8uErKSL2byZp30.html

Thanks for the tips. I mentioned this on my @Facebook page and a metal-head I know filled me in on just what I've been missing. Holy Hell, I am exhausted after listening to four or five of her performances, and another by someone similar he suggested. The same thing happened with @DreamTheater, I learned about them late and had a lot of catching up to do (this was a while back).

@@JDoors Here Floor sings her song from her band Revamp, listen, you will be shocked kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ibSAmNZ9q7rShZs.html

Singing in metal genre limits her exposure.

Now she's is a Swede, so to speak, but if she were born a Swede, she might be almost as famous as the Great Avicii... 😛

She's singing 12 to 20 min pieces one by one at a concert effortlessly, most radio station DJs can't stop blarring over a the end of an 2 min pop song ... that's why. In real life it would be news, some radio DJ bla bla, three Nightwish songs and the next hourly news.

@@tubehepa She's from Netherlands ^^ The rest of the band is Finnish though.

@@HawkNButterfly Her husband is Swedish and she lives in Sweden so I'm sure that's what they were referring to.

Haha, good one 😇😇😇

That's why she is our Dutch Valkyre Goddes of Metal...

One of the greatest singers of all time

As this video shows , she is not perfect, she is better than perfect . She is superbly human. Unlike any other human...

@@gregjetnikoff7124 Thats a good way to put it. :)

It is always reassuring to hear others say this because I could not figure out why listening to Ghost Love Score the first time I came across it made me weep so - in part I told myself it was because I had recently lost my wife and she would have loved to hear this; but I think it is just that Floor has this way of making her voice touch your heart.

@@dallassukerkin6878 Nah mate, she flattens all of us, just by being Floor and singing.

Wow, that is amazing. Once in a life time

Floor and Troy was already official prior to Wacken 2013 but they kept it from public.

@@ErikNapitu That is correct! However to the crowd it was THE moment to immortalize Floors stint with them. Therefore it was extra special.

Indeed. If time machine really exists I would do anything to go to WOA'13

I've often compared Nightwish' performance at Wacken 2013 to Woodstock or Queen at Live Aid 1984. Once in a lifetime and I'm sad I wasn't there

I was (and am) the same. I still geek over Floor. I get that everyone has their own musical tastes, but I don't know how anyone could pass on anything Floor. She pairs with both Marco :-( and Troy who are COMPLETELY different singers and then on to Hank Poort, Simone Simons and even Tarja. Completely blown away, every time. Gotta tell someone!

@@MichaelTilton I still have to find a singer that doesn't sound amazing with Floor. Yeah she always sing along with good singers, but they all sound perfect with her, so it's her that can match amazingly well with everyone.

Same.

Same

My intro was to Shoemaker and then Ghost Love Score and I was down the rabbit hole! At 74 years and never a metal fan that is saying something must be special. Floor and all the other members as well. Will miss Marko the most he could balance out Floor and give her some rest during the performances. Troy can sing but just doesn’t have the power of Marko.

One of the very few things that has been pitch corrected of hers, Beste Zangers is known for that.

I wish you luck in achieving your goal, they are one of the best live acts I've ever seen in the more than 150 concerts I've been to over the last 25 years and always give 100% of themselves. I was one of the lucky few hundred that saw their first ever US performance at ProgPower in Atlanta in 2003 at the peak of the Tarja era. They were jetlagged as all get out and were looking a little rough when first taking the stage, but after a couple of tracks they found their footing and burned the place down the rest of the set.

They sure do and I have seen them 3 times live and the virtual show. Bring on 2023 for the next Aussie tour 🤞🏻

Good luck. I‘m still sitting on 2 tickets for the concert initially planned in November(?) 2020. Of course I‘m not even considering refunding them :)

Only thing they really did was add reverb to the performance.

@@TerranigmaQuintet was the reverb added in post-production or in the sound booth, on set?

@@josephbishop3590 I think you can hear the reverb in those cell phone videos too. But of course they've cleaned up the tracks for the dvd, that's a no brainer. All these videos just show that there isn't any "foul play" going on.

@@Garbox80 Of course it's a song for a DVD, that means they mixed it in studio, for sure a compressor (always used on a voice), and all the usual things. Reverb was surely added live at the venue, as there is no natural reverb on an outside venue. That's totally fine and always done in each song since the '50s at least. I'm really glad they didn't touch her voice with autotune or pitch correction.

Reverb does not alter pitch or timing and does not do anything to the voice as such, it just creates the impression of a larger space to the sound in general

With her being that tall, that is very necessary too!

Thanks!

@@wingsofpegasus I was in similar boat- have recently been introduced to Night Witch: Floor's vocal and singing is just incredible! The analysis with the wave form graphic really demonstrates her spot on pitch and ability to stay on pitch through the scales and melodies. Thank you Fil, very insightful!

She does a lot of non metal, look her up and treat yourself

Her performance of Vilja Lied from Beste Zangers, and Shallow from Beste Zangers, are wonderful to get a feel of the versatility in her voice as well, if you aren't into metal. But Nightwish is ...well, as a long-time fan, I can say that they are Fireside-bards performing film scores with electric guitars, encompassing every emotion on the spectrum, while wearing metal t shirts and leather dresses. It's so different and wonderful, and you should give it a shot. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. Look up The Islander, by Nightwish, live in Tampere. Good icebreaker.

@@meltharion316 I think that is why I connect with the music so much- I produce soundscapes and am so much into film score- I really like the metal edge and epic feel to what I have heard and of course the singing takes up to like Rock Opera ;)

I agree... but you didn't go far enough. She is absolutely the most technical AND the most Emotive singer, ever. Nobody is even a close second. There are A LOT of good, great and superior singers. But Floor's mastery of voice techniques and her unique ability to invest the lyrics with emotional support is unparalleled! I agree with you. Everything you said. But added the unique qualities she commands that others lack.

@@josephbishop3590 100% 👍

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​@@Antaios632 You should realize this: although Floor Jansen is not an opera singer (and still has very good(!) grasp of classical / operatic lyrical technique which she uses in her metal concerts), there are also things that Floor can do, that practically no opera singer can do... I Quote an opera stage director reacting to a Floor Jansen performance: "what is very special about Floor Jansen is the absolute control with wich she can move between registers and techniques. She often moves between chesty belting, mixed voice and lyrical headvoice, even withing one vowel, seamless. Where real opera-singers can normally NOT do this. Their musscles are so deeply trained only on opera technique only, that when they have to move to chestvoice (which most of them hate and hardly ever do), it is normally a clunky afair. Also we have seen what happens when opera singers like Pavarotti try sing "pop" style songs. It is normally not pretty. This is what makes Floor Jansen so special: she is not an opera singer, and in pure opera she can not and does not want to compete with the real great opera singers. But on the other hand she does have an unrivalled vocal "toolchest", that most opera singers can only dream of. Pair this with her perfect control over pitch and texture and timing, and she really is one of the greatest singers! Now, of course it is not possible to determine who is THE greatest singer because would involve comparing incomparable quantities.

@@rientsdijkstra4266 calm down, I think her skill is incredible, I'm just saying it's a bit hyperbolic to say she's the "most X female singer EVER," whatever X might be. I think it's a bit silly to evaluate artists of any kind in this reductive, linear way. For example, I have known guitarists who say Steve Vai is the best guitarist of all time (or plug in various others, Eddie Van Halen, Yngwie, Buckethead, etc.), and I don't play guitar, I don't know whether that's true or not, but I know I'd rather not listen to Steve Vai any more than I have to, so how relevant is it?

And fans/wind is so drying to the throat. Wow

You can say that!👍🤘

We fans of Floor call that feeling when listening to her a "Floorgasm" ;)

She would have commanded and inspired entire Viking hordes in the late 700's... Sabaton would be singing songs about her

@@m1laen771 Their drummer is particularly appreciative of her...

Plenty of phone recordings on YT where u can easily tell she really did sound that good live when it happened.

Hello Dianne. Floor is someone new to you? Wow, I envy you because of the wonderful journey that is ahead of you if you want to get to know her better. Maybe start by taking a look at her own YT channel (Floor Jansen). You'll find live performances, covers, fun videos for the fans and vocal masterclasses on her channel. Then you could have a look at the Nightwish channel and get to know them. They are a Finnish symphonic metal band with exceptionally well composed and arranged songs and very poetic lyrics. Enjoy! Greetings from the Netherlands.

Yeah, not much to add to Martine's response, except you might be interested in hearing Floor's rendition for Shallow.

The only thing that I would add to this is that the only thing better than hearing her for the first time is hearing her for the millionth. OK I haven’t quite gotten to that number yet but it just doesn’t ever fail to move or impress.

Ditto!

Yeah me too! I know she's very, very good, but holy shit those waveforms are just insanely good.

Just a side note, I almost never use auto tune. Working with acoustic folk artists mostly, auto tune is so alien to that kind of music. It's like an elevator in an outhouse, it doesn't belong there.

It's a great time to become a musician, it helps with coordination, good for mind body & soul. Do it! 😊

O Mio Bambino Caro on a Netherlands TV show.

she's got decades of experience. :-)

Sue...I posted this to another thread as well.... The band, Nightwish, has been performing since 96. But they didn't add Floor Jansen until 2013, right after their performance at Wäcken. If I could be so bold as to suggest... Nightwish at Wäcken in 2013 has been described as "magical". In front of 82000+ adoring fans they created a musical experience that has rarely been equalled. The musicianship, the stage production, the exchanged energy and the stunning vocals... You'll never be the same. GHOST LOVE SCORE is most often utilized as an introduction to Nightwish, and Floor Jansen. But you could experience any track from this show and still be moved. Once introduced to Nightwish, you'll be thrust into the living arms of the Nightwish Army. An amazing community to be part of.

WOW......just awesome.....if I were not following you I would not ever have heard this beautiful voice!

And...I should add..of the last 40 years. She's Special.

Couldn't agree more!!!

Thanks!