Old Town Sportsman Bigwater 132 ePDL+ Top Speed Test

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7 ай бұрын

Just so we are clear - I purchased both of the ePDL's from Old Town. We tested the top speed of the Old Town Sportsman Bigwater 132 ePDL+. Some people said 6mph but with a 205 lbs load (body weight and tiny fish finder) it topped out at 5mph. What happens when you add more weight?
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@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Top speed under 5MPH is cool but with no weight it’s kind of concerning. Your thoughts?

@bigdogford1 7 ай бұрын

Still way better than anything else on the market, I think it will be fine

@bo5258 7 ай бұрын

You are planning on sugar sand testing it .....? .😙

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

For the price point I don't think thats really the case its main benefit is its steam lined and simple. I'll go into more details in another video.@@bigdogford1

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Of course. 5mph in a glorified pond tells me nothing at the end of the day. @@bo5258

@bigdogford1 7 ай бұрын

@NavarreKayakFishing I was referring to the speed only every other motorized kayak I have seen is really slow. However I definitely think they could have done more with the kayak for the price point, seem a little to basic to be there flag ship kayak, compared to there competitors, however I don't think there is a better big water kayak on the market as for as the hull goes

@EliasVFishing 7 ай бұрын

Seems consistent to what I got. I had it up to 6.4 mph with tide a 1 to 1.2mph tide. When fighting a ripping tide on speed 5 your legs grab way more and are actually assisting. I was able to fight tide at 4mph vs just 3.3 or so on straight cruise.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

That’s good information. I’ve always thought the PDL drive did better when the propeller was fighting current. Gets a better bite. I planned to test it a bit more but I had a two hour delay with the small car accident.

@anthonyvespia6662 7 ай бұрын

I've always loved that boat. I was impressed, with it going into the wind, and with the wind. But I know that's one of Old Towns fastest hulls. 💯 🛶 🌊

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Pretty impressive. Hopefully those speeds hold once there’s more equipment in the kayak.

@bigguyinalittleboat7927 7 ай бұрын

4.6 is better than I thought. I also thought it’d be louder. I may pick one up. Been waiting on this video.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

I worry about it getting slower once the kayak is rigged but 4+ mph is a win in my mind.

@ColsenTaylorFishing 7 ай бұрын

the bigwater isn’t my favorite yak but love it’s speed, seems crazy quite. Glad your all good after that car accident.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Colsen. All is well.

@stevehogan8829 7 ай бұрын

It's cool for sure. Glad you are doing the review. I"m not sure I'd trade my 120 Auto for it. I'm good for all day using 1 100 AH FPV battery. Weight is only 15 lbs. Lithium Polymner.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Ya, that’s a tough call. You already own a great system.

@bo5258 7 ай бұрын

@@NavarreKayakFishing 😵‍💫

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

For what he does. Not for me.

@aaronpys2893 3 ай бұрын

When you say your good all day, on average how many hours are we talking about? If your battery running anything else?

@BobBohner4851 7 ай бұрын

That’s impressive

@ryanlillypad 5 ай бұрын

Speed levels one through three are optimized for standard trolling speeds for various applications. Speed four and five are set up for get up and go speeds. Enjoy the kayak!

@NavarreKayakFishing 5 ай бұрын

No doubt - it’s great for trolling! Going to perfect for getting offshore when I get a chance.

@Pemex93 7 ай бұрын

That Speed 1, maybe 2, seems like it'll be money for West Coast halibut ball bouncing

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Ya, slow trolling is going to be awesome for certain types of fishing.

@backontheyak 7 ай бұрын

Hey Nick if you don't need this kayak I could definitely use this up north. I can pick up from you Santa lol

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Hah! That would be a great gift.

@DetroitFishigan 7 ай бұрын

Not bad on the speed test. Man that sucks that the accident happened, now the insurance premiums go up shit sucks ass especially when you're not at fault, But glad to see you're okay, and hear that everyone else was as well. Until the next time Nick 🤝

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Ya I’m sure the insurance company will make it a headache.

@XploreAz 7 ай бұрын

Nick's premium won't go up if he wasn't at fault.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

@XploreAz let’s hope.

@bo5258 7 ай бұрын

The only thing that would make me reconsider my AP 136 would be the instant reverse and yet judging by the mysterious and coy hints regarding the pedal drive alone ..... maybe the added resistance of the motor nullifies the benefit ... maybe🤔

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Only time will tell. But I’ll keep you updated.

@BobBohner4851 7 ай бұрын

Good luck getting the truck fixed

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, sir.

@morganonayak 6 ай бұрын

I get the same performance on my Sportsman 120 PLD with a Bixpy K1 Angler Pro. 120 PDL = $2,900 + Bixpy K1 Angler Pro = $1,500 = $4,400 COST OF THE ePDL = $6,000. I think I'll save the $1,600 and stick with my rig.

@NavarreKayakFishing 6 ай бұрын

I don’t blame you.

@AliexFolgueira 4 ай бұрын

What are paddles?

@yakkittymack 7 ай бұрын

Im in love with the idea of this yak. I know you have a lot of experience with the Big Water and it's your favorite Old Town, but in your opinion, is it stable enough for a non-swimmer?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

As long as you have a quality life jacket and have practiced re-entry there’s isn’t an issue.

@MRRickpo 7 ай бұрын

Hi Nik. Thanks for sharing that video...informative. Is it just me or does that motor system sound loud?, even at low speed. You mention in the video its quieter than Oldtown Sportsmans 120/136 autopilots (although you didnt specify which, just a generalization)...i own a 136 and I don't hear that motor sound at low, or top end speeds. Your thoughts....

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

I’ll go over what I meant in another video so it can be explained better. The GoPro picks up noise different than our ears and I was holding the GoPro within a foot of the drive. I should have elaborated in the video.

@twowheelslater7112 7 ай бұрын

Cool concept. Kind of the next obvious iteration. For 6K idk man that opens a lot of doors to cool stuff though. I got a 132pdl in the garage. I think for the money I would rather have 2 systems instead of one complex one. If you have a motor on back instead its gonna turn better. with a motor on back If my drive goes I got a motor and if my motor goes I got a drive. Seems like 4.5 to 5 is about the limit of the hull unless you put a lot more power to it anyway, so get a bigger battery and save your legs. one question, is it any harder to pedal than a regular drive with the assist turned off?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

I agree. Yes, there’s more resistance. It appears you spinning the motors while pedaling.

@paulandresen8671 7 ай бұрын

You can troll at level 2 all day and still show a full battery. For my lake trout trolling its perfect.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Perfect for that for sure!

@paulandresen8671 7 ай бұрын

And you don’t have to math battery consumption to make it home with pedal drive.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

@paulandresen8671 I feel like a lot of people will be pedaling back from time to time. Myself included.

@miamiwax5504 7 ай бұрын

Nick I have a 106 drive that isn't working. It pedals but prop doesn't move. Is it possible for me to send it to you to have it fixed?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

We do not service the drives. However, if you search our KZfaq videos there are several videos that will get you pointed in the correct direction.

@robertdillahayii4763 3 ай бұрын

Did you check your shear pin

@djrtime1398 7 ай бұрын

The camera picks up noise different than the human ear. What when you experiment for yourself and what you hear on the video are different in your opinion if any?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

100% true. I didn’t think it was loud when the motor was running compared to other trolling motors. We will test it out more though.

@djrtime1398 7 ай бұрын

@@NavarreKayakFishing thanks. Also would like drive noise comparison to other pedal drives when solely human powered. Bottom line is looking for quietest pedal drive without motor assist. Thanks.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

@djrtime1398 the regularly PDL drive is extremely quiet and the instant reverse is amazing.

@NismoS13240sx1 7 ай бұрын

I get around 3.8-4.0 with my 106mk I’m 200 pounds, plus gear and cooler probly 65 pounds

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

The 106mk is much shorter and weighs a bit less. Tough to compare them but I enjoyed fishing from the 106mk. Good little kayak.

@scottquesada4697 7 ай бұрын

Top speed compared to Auto Pilot? Seems comparable. Thanks

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

It’s a little faster but it’s also lighter and not as wide. Very close. Seemed quieter though in my opinion.

@averageeverydayfishermansh4501 7 ай бұрын

I am only five minutes into the video so this may be addressed but I also wonder how long that will last, especially at full speed.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Especially at full speed with a rigged kayak. We will find out.

@XploreAz 7 ай бұрын

Wow that motor is noisy compared to the AP. Too bad the AP isn't as fast.

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

In person I think it’s quieter than the AP in certain situations but it did make a few noises I didn’t like.

@brucejohnson1264 7 ай бұрын

I have a problem with putting a motor on any Kayak. The basic shape of a Kayak is all about efficiency, and the ability to move easily under human power. If you add a motor, why suffer all the compromises of a low and unstable hull shape? If you don’t care about being human powered, why not get a pond prowler, a big lithium battery, and a trolling motor, for a lot less money?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

I agree but there are some places you can’t take the pond prowler.

@miamiwax5504 7 ай бұрын

What is a bixpy getting?

@NavarreKayakFishing 7 ай бұрын

Just over 4 if I recall.

@morganonayak 6 ай бұрын

I use the Bixpy K1 Angler Pro. I'm in a loaded OT Sportsman 120 PDL (approximate fishing weight with me and gear = 455lbs). With just the Bixpy, I can max out at 4.4mph. If I pedal too, I can get to 5.2mph. Bixpy set on "cruise" speed (6 or 7) I can do 3mph all day.