With all due respect, you need a small flat bottom boat, not a sit-on-top kayak. SOT kayaks are so stable because they let water in under certain situations. The Sportsman has fixed the seat issue. You can put a lot of plastic tackle boxes in a milk carton in the back. Take care and tight lines.
@alceja35223 жыл бұрын
Good video. I have the Sportsman 106 PDL with 2” seat risers. Most stable 10 ft kayak I’ve stood in. I’ve tried them all.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Al Ceja thanks man, I like mine, if I can keep the water from coming in at the motor, I’d be satisfied for a kayak!
@fb60493 жыл бұрын
Very clear and honest and pedagogical Thank you. I was looking at one today here in Stockholm, I will buy it, stability is the most important to me, I am 180 cm , 105 kg and 73 years old.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Awesome, hope for fun adventures!
@srsykes493 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I bought my 106 PDL a year ago. I don't have the water leak problem around the motor hole that you do. Don't know why. I agree with you about the seat. I velcro taped a memory foam seat cushion to my seat. That helped tremendously! Plus putting two 2x2 short blocks under the rear seat frame improved the tilt of the seat for me. My tackle trays go into a plastic milk crate, which I put in the rear storage area. The only thing I store under the seat is my battery for the fish finder, and a small 5lb anchor. I too, usually stay out on the kayak 8 or more hours each outing. Glad to hear you're still enjoying the kayak, despite the flaws. Remember only our God can make something perfect. 😉
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the water leading is aggravating and the other modifications seems to work well. I'm going to seal that front area to see if that helps! Maybe we can compare one day! Blessings.
@srsykes493 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorheretic8232 It just occurred to me. At first I didn't like the fact that I have to put both feet on the motor housing and press down hard to engage the motor lock. The same to dis-engage. Maybe that's why mine don't leak very much. I just got used to doing that, and didn't think much about it.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
@@srsykes49 Ha, ha, It is something they told me I needed to do, I get mine locked in, but not easy with my new seal!
@davids59563 жыл бұрын
I think the new 106, now called the Sportsman instead of Topwater, comes with a better seat. It’s more like the seat on the Predator.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
David S definitely will look into that, so far the pad works...Still a fan of Old Town! Thanks for commenting and watching, if you haven’t, please subscribe!
@stevehogan88293 жыл бұрын
Yep, I've got the 120 Auto Pilot and love it. Only drawback is that it's heavy @173 I struggle getting it on and off the water. But it's worth it.
@tristanhinkley10232 жыл бұрын
one of the lightest with that much seriousness to it
@kaskoma3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the insight. Definitely helps me to decide. Leaning hard toward the Old Town kayaks.
@BeardedDadFishing3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed overview. Going with my first old town soon! God bless brother
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Wishing you the best of luck!
@cerescop3 жыл бұрын
I believe the seat off the Predator fits on the TopWater. As long as you only use one at a time you don't need a upgrade.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Nelson Mitchell, III thanks for commenting and watching! I’m not sure if my year model doesn’t or I’m unable to figure how to get it off. My predator seat is on good, so maybe I’ll look and see!
@geneofields81493 жыл бұрын
Thanks for insight. Will look closer at 120
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Geneo Fields thanks for watching, best of luck!
@unclebillscrappieattitude34033 жыл бұрын
I am not a kayak person, im a little top heavy. This was a great explanation about the pros and cons. Thank you sir
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Ha, ha, I know all about that top heavy! LOL
@bartman54302 жыл бұрын
I've had a 106 for 2 years now...and I don't have any problems that you have.....
@outdoorheretic82322 жыл бұрын
Had, I got rid of it, but glad I did! Hope you catch a bunch of fish on yours!
@2kGOAT24.85 ай бұрын
This is one of my teachers
@onefishwonder33663 жыл бұрын
The topwater is a great kayak. Here are three reasons why I would buy PDL. 1) Great Customer Service 2) 5-year warranty on the PDL drive 3) Lifetime warranty on the hull. you can get any better than that.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
OSCALITOS WAYZ Exactly why I bought it! Only thing I’d differ is customer service experience is ok...wouldn’t say Great! Motor still leaks and it is baffling, but heck, maybe it’s such a rarity they don’t know what it is! Don’t forget to subscribe amd thanks for commenting and watching!
@SeaPro3603 жыл бұрын
You look like a pretty big (in shape) guy. Like you say, you might need a bigger kayak.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Sure thing, sold it to restore a small boat! Good kayak, but not for me! Thanks for watching
@timmow49092 жыл бұрын
There actually seems to be a 106 without the engine hole it’s basically the 120 but wider and longer more stable I’m wondering if it’s worth getting and just upgrading the seat
@outdoorheretic82322 жыл бұрын
Still an Old Town fan!
@DetroitFishigan3 жыл бұрын
My old town 106 sportman haves the same water problem coming in as well😞. I don't know if there's a fix for that.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Watcher hate to hear that for both of us!
@comando8919 Жыл бұрын
Of you haven’t upgraded to the sportsman you’re miss out 😊
@benruthlessburger89053 жыл бұрын
Good review.. what’s that’s gasket called ima replace mines also it leaking real bad.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember the exact name, but if you call OT they will help you
@benruthlessburger89053 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorheretic8232 ok. Is it something you can get at Home Depot
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
@@benruthlessburger8905 I think you are talking about the rubber seal? If so that is where you can get it.
@benruthlessburger89053 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorheretic8232 ok
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
@@benruthlessburger8905 If they don't, let me know and I'll research it up!
@gixxerman12433 жыл бұрын
I bought the predator pdl last year and wouldn’t trade it for nothing. I’m looking for something a little smaller like the 106 or 120.. not sure witch one to go with.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Gixxer Man from simply a room perspective I’d do the 120!
@Detroit3Pistons3 жыл бұрын
How’s the Stability on the Predator?
@gixxerman12433 жыл бұрын
Very good! I’m 260lbs 5’8 and stand up on it easily. I went out one night with my son got totally shitfaced and didn’t fall in once😂 I would definitely recommend it. Great all around kayak.
@itscrazy033 жыл бұрын
Idk what that little rope is under your seat mine doesn't have that but this is the 2nd video I've seen with that attached to the bottom of the seat. I do the same thing as you and have the same tackle boxes i attach my backpack to the seat and throw one box in the front under the seat. That really sucks about your leaking through the pdl drive hole. Mind doesn't have that issue, but i do agree with the seat it is very uncomfortable Ive considered upgrading the seat but it just hasnt been in my budget these days lol.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
That-Welder-TJ thanks for watching! Glad to hear your not having the leakage issue...it is starting to be aggravating with it so cold! Thanks again for the info
@ArmadilloJunction3 жыл бұрын
This is gonna be my next big decision for 2021,, which kayak to get . I havent had one now for a couple years and miss it !
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Armadillo Junction I’ll help you if you keep putting out those videos that help me! Lol
@Thefishingplumber3 жыл бұрын
Would u recommend the bigger 120 salty?
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Yes! The bigger the better! Gives you so much more room
@Thefishingplumber3 жыл бұрын
@@outdoorheretic8232 for my first yak I was thinking of getting the salty 120 pdl what do you think I want it for saltwater fishing
@jamesbeasley81193 жыл бұрын
@@Thefishingplumber the salty pdl is super fast ,but it too has water coming into the cockpit of the kayak... MORE in fact.
@Thefishingplumber3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesbeasley8119 hmmm 🤔 I haven’t decided yet know anything about the old town sportsman 120
@fgmateusz96523 жыл бұрын
you can just buy a big box for it
@terryd26343 жыл бұрын
Which dealer or company did you buy your kayak from
@terryd26343 жыл бұрын
?
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Backcountry online
@waynetisue68283 жыл бұрын
I was very disappointed with this video. Lots of talk but where's the video showing the problem and then the video of the solution. You may be right but all this is KZfaq -- more video to demonstrate what you're talking about. BTW, I'm an 106MK guy.
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Wayne, hate you're disappointed, if you watch my other videos on the water, you can see the problem. Thanks again!
@waynetisue15663 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the links to the previous videos that corroborate your premise?
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
@@waynetisue1566 Here you go Wayne, sorry I didn't include them, I assumed you didn't want it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9eKda2Ir8jSZ2g.html (You can see the water coming in, unfortunately I'm not the only one that has had this problem, but I'm sticking with it), thanks again for the support!
@sikesy73 жыл бұрын
Old town sportsman 106 PDL or Old town Salty 120 for ocean kayaking?
@outdoorheretic82323 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t on the 106! You’ll be drenched!
@mastermouaable2 жыл бұрын
Get the Salty 120 or The Big Water 132PDL.
@MyRivera232 жыл бұрын
Dont have a kayak if you scared to get a little wet
@outdoorheretic82322 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I'm thinking you haven't watched any of my other videos..."A little wet." Yikes!
@benruthlessburger89052 жыл бұрын
It’s a swimming pool. Thank god I sold my 10.6 also