If you have the X300, then the Olight doesn't bring much extra to the table. But if you're on a budget, or don't have anything, I'd say that the Olight would definitely give the X300 a run for it's money.

Still blows my mind that a holster company is the most in depth tester of flashlights on youtube. You guts do some great work when it comes to testing lights. I have learned alot about lights from you guys.

Reddit is going to be furious

Your testing and production value never cease to impress.

I really appreciate your empirical data- which is hard to come by from a source I trust- and for your opinions as well. Please keep up the great work!

Bought this Olight as a part of a package for $54 and to me there’s no comparison. I love the ease of the buttons, the quality, and for the price I paid it’s definitely the better buy. Enjoyed the review though.

Great information! Cool to nerd out and understand more what to look for and why. Was clear and concise. Excellent videos you put out, keep up the good work!

Haha I really appreciate the opening! Great work

As always, solid post up and detailed objective driven discussion. THX!

Your reviews are always helpful

Olight has been bringing it lately. I now have three of them. $300 plus for a weapons light is hard to justify, to myself. Also I just received this exact holster. Super excited about the carry possibilities.

Very helpful review. I agree, Olight has stepped up its game.

Great video. In a few hours Olight has a 30% off sale and this PL Turbo will be $62.99. I love my Surefire Turbo and but with this sale.... I'm going to get one, thanks for the video!

I am going with the olight. I have a different model already that has performed excellent. For the price, mounting system, and performance, easy choice. I will be running it on my Springfield Echelon.

Thanks for the great video! I run both, but feel that Surefire is way over priced. Actually just ordered the PL Tubo. Also run streamlight as well, they are more moderately priced. Watched your video when you put them all through the gauntlet. Another great video. Thanks again

Appreciate the review. For me, personally, I can't justify the cost of the Surefire. Not to mention the documented problems they've had with their switches, requiring youtube videos on how to 'mod' the switch. I have numerous Olights, but my personal favorite pistol WML right now is still the Streamlight TLR-1 HL. Good value. As for the position and manipulation of the switches - I've found that like anything else, it's a matter of muscle memory. Once you get used to it, it's second nature. Lastly, with respect to the color gradient of the Olight - that's something I have to see in person to determine if that's a deal breaker. I have noticed on Olights, they do have a tendency to be 'warmer' than Streamlight or Surefire. I don't think it makes a light more/less usable in most cases, but it gets back to personal preference. But come on - for $90....it's gonna be pretty tough to call that a deal-breaker, IMHO. Thanks again for the review!

Appreciate the video! I run surefire on my duty weapon and pl turbo for off duty. I like them both. Just sucks I have to buy another holster.

I don't have an X300T to compare it to, but the PL-3 Turbo is well sized to use in a 12 o'clock position on an AR handguard. The light only measures 29mm from the top of the Picatinny rail to the highest point of the bezel, whereas the front sight base I am using is 28.5mm. This is compared to the top of the TLR-1HL, which is 31mm and pretty close to the top of the front sight post on my gun (33.5mm). The buttons are also easy to use and not especially prone to pushing the sights off target on a rifle. For anyone wondering if Olight sent Werkz a souped-up specimen of the PL-3 Turbo for testing, I subjected one that was purchased to some evaluations of its specs. My own garage-based testing apparatus for output and intensity gave results consistent with Werkz' findings: 800 lumens and almost 90,000 candela.

Very helpful great video. Thank you!

This is a great video I appreciate you

Really hype for the pistol light/s cloud defensive are cooking up!!

Was this review helpful? Your reviews are the best by far. And your holsters are damn good too. ty.

New subscriber, great review brother.

Another great facts and data driven review. Thank you for the hard work!

I really appreciate your review. I saw another comparison video of the same WMLs and there was some mention about something the reviewer didn't like about the Surefire switches, and that a lot of people end up modifying them, but I don't recall exactly what their issue with the switch was. I just got the PL-Turbo Valkyrie so I'll see if I notice the green color thing you mentioned. I didn't shop the x300 but I heard you can get at least 3 Olights for the price of 1 Surefire. But then again, there's the whole Made in the USA side of it too. I'll have to check out your holsters. (Hoping to find some OWB options...) Thanks

Great Review. I almost thought I made a mistake getting the X300T recently. I'm glad I got my X300T first. If I had more than 1 EDC pistol I'd get the Olight next, but I try to keep it minimal.

When I want to see a true review of a wml I come over to Werks, you’re the best by far. When I was to see a review of a rds I go over to Sage Dynamics, he’s the best in that market. Thanks for the content, it’s great detail and 100% honesty, not paid for advertising. I think Olight is the best budget wml by far as I’ve had good luck with my PL-3R Valkyrie. I already placed my order for the PL Turbo valkyrie and it only cost me $62

Sick ass review. 10/10. Excellent. All the info and some.

I love your holsters (have 2 for my 320 X5Legion with Olight) Very helpful videos- I'm primarily an Olight guy as they are very hard to beat- But yes the greenish' color is not ideal

I love the M6 OWB. Fits the Baldr Pro with laser and my G34 perfectly. Also has room for the Trijicon. I never go to the wilderness without it!

Great job on all your content. Will you be making the M6 outlier holster for the Pl turbo?

Thank you for your excellent reviews! I'd love to see an OWB option for all these Olights. I'm running the BALDR Mini on my Canik Rival because you guys haven't provided an option for the bigger lights yet. I'm wondering if the G17 Holsters or maybe the Wather PPQ with the full size Olights would work for the Canik Rival? 🤔

Thanks man just saved 200+$ on a light 😂😂

Awesome as usual Sham. Loved the American ingenuity with the quack tape. Yeah, side button are not my favorite. I'm just old school and really like cable switches back on the grip or high near the slide so I don't have to break my grip to activate my light. I go Streamlight because I'm poor.

I own a Olight PL Turbo and love it. I would recommend this weapon mounted flashlight to anyone out there. Do not hesitate, just buy.

The olight switches are awesome for a lightweight top mounted AR light IMO, especially for a shorter setup.

Interesting video. Does the Olight Baldr Pro R fits on the Staccato XC ?

Both are great, the olight is awesome for the price.

I went ahead and picked up the PL Turbo, this is what I was hoping their LEP version would be when it was released. Candela is awesome, but it doesn't do much good imo if you cant see what's 10 feet to the side of it. Anyway, bang for your buck, I think this is an amazing offering from Olight. I appreciate this well done video, and the M6 is going to make a great holster for this

Was looking for a new tactical hand held came across the PL turbo for less then $70 on sale. Did some quick research and this video made it a no brainer to pick up the olight…. My only regret is not buying more than one at that price.

great video.

I have two Olights and both are AMAZING lights. Mine don’t give that green color like the video at all. But they will completely blind anyone they are aimed at. You can see everything clear as a bell. That’s why I always find it hillarious on social media when some bash Olight over and over.

Very interesting results! It reminds me of the Olight Javelot Tac/Mini with its outrageously huge intensity measurement. I'm always on the hunt for a PDW light I can mount at 12 o'clock on an AR handguard that will still let me use the iron sight. This could be a contender in that application. Way to bring some production value and comedy into the opening!

Im so happy with my pl3 using streamlight batteries. Very solid light for my purposes. Im gonna get the pl3r and the outlier owb universal holster soon. Is there a holster model that fits the 1911 railed as well as glock 17 size weapon?

What was the measured Candella of the PL Turbo vs advertised? I caught 50% more but no numbers?

Does the Olight PL Turbo fit any holsters currently? Like x300 holsters or are they too different in shape

One thing I would like to see is a comparison of what the potential assailant looks like in the beam pattern with the light reflected off the ceiling or floor. Almost all of these comparisons seem to be with the light pointed directly at someone. From a legal and moral perspective you want to identify that the person is actually a threat before pointing the light and thus the pistol directly at them. In my own testing this can be one of the few areas where the higher candela lights can be at a disadvantage as the beam patterns are so tight. I would be interested in how one light does against another in that comparison.

But what was the candela for both? The numbers weren’t shown. Unless I somehow missed it.

Love the quality Anyone have any good suggestions for holster on 1911 DS prodigy 4.25 with this Same olight ? Please and thanks

As an x300 turbo user, I do like Olight --pl prop was nice... I didn't go with the Original valkyrie turbo because of the flood but I may try this one along side the x300 turbo. Thank You

What were the candela measurements for the Olight?

I was ready to pull the trigger on this Olight, until you talked about the greenish hue. I have two Olight WML's (PL-Pro and the PL-2) and I don't like the yellowish tint of the PL-Pro and much prefer the whit tint of the PL-2. No go from me on this one.

i've got a x300t and modlite okw with the larger body. the olights higher lumens + decently high candela is... so much better to me. and the fact it's cr123a only, no weird charger stuff. i gotta be honest, it's throw and spill is absolutely incredible. blows the modlite okw on my AR out of the water. it goes out as far as you'd ever WANT to shoot 5.56, so i run it off the side of my BAD workhorse patrol carbine on an mlok picatinny adapter and have had zero issues so far. at $90 versus over $300 and with a lifetime guarantee, it's a no brainer.

I have all of the weapon lights out there I’ll tell you one thing!!! This olight is bad ass!!!! I like it better than the x300 turbo however the Modlite pl350 plvh2 is my all time favorite

Any chance you guys will add more light options for the x-macro m6 holsters? I have a pl-mini 2 on it and can't for the life of me find a good holster for this combo.

I would have to go with the olight even if money wasn't a consideration 309+ for a Flashlight is hard to justify as long as it illuminates I'll let the green Hughes slide.

First, thanks for making Olight compatible holsters. I have 7 Olights. I'm also not a fan of the side switches, especially when you have to depress both of them together for strobe mode. As a comparison, the Baldr S switches are very nice, and don't mess up your point of aim. Those lights don't have a strobe setting, so they can't be compared to Olights where you have to depress both sides switches for strobe. I'm not sure the controls are a deal breaker for me. What I'm more interested in is durability. Olight claims these lights are IPX6, which is much better than their typical IPX4 ratings. The Streamlight TLR-1 HL and the Surefire X300T, are IPX7. I think people would like to see some scientific comparison tests on this Olight Valkyrie Turbo LEP, compared to the Streamlight and Surefire, to determine if the Olight Valkyrie Turbo LEP can actually be used as a duty light. Part of the reason I own Olights, is that you get a lot for your money, and they're pretty durable. However, I only use them for home defense or everyday AIWB carry. A true duty light is very different. And even fans of Olight, should probably own at least one true pistol duty light, and one or two true duty lights for rifles.

@Shan, @Werkz, is tjere a comparison available between the Baldr Pro Series and a Surefire or Streamlight simile' ?

Can't believe how quickly you replied to my comment below. Can you tell me if you make a holster for a Walther PDP 4.6" barrel, red dot but without light?

In terms of output? Yes, the olight is the best pistol light on the market. We’ll see what the torture videos say in the coming months about durability and reliability 🤷‍♂️. I have a feeling I may make the switch…….

Olights for me. I'm not reading or painting using this light. It's point and aim. And it's only $90. It's not going to hurt when I upgrade.

Well green is a color we see well

Does this light have a pressure pad to operate on rifles ?

For only $63 800 lumens and 66000 candela I think its worth buying...Im gonna order one....Olight finally step up their game

I prefer the SF switches also. The only other switches I like are the TLR-1 (also rocker and analog).

Please werkz, I love your holster but please make this light combo with the M&P 2.0 compact/full size 🙏🙏

I am one who is on a budget, like the surefire but price point is no for me. I have the olight turbo it does I great job for me and the price point is in my budget. Looking at getting a smaller olight for my compact. This is my reason for buying the olight.

I'd love to know how the Streamlight TLR1 HL compares to this new Olight PL Turbo. I had the Original PL Valkryie but returned it and went with the Streamlight. 🤙

glad a company is actually doing their own testing, and bringing facts about products rather than just calling them bombs *cough*Trexarms*cough* might look into Olight now, for budget lights, not terrible

Neither. I'm gonna wait another 8 years for cloud deffensive to release their pistol light.

So what were the actual candela numbers?

Surefire flashlight parts are sourced from China?

video was helpful in regards to specs, but until their track record shows that they can make a durable and reliable and issue free wml, i won't waste my money on one. I still prefer my pl350okw over the turbo and arguably the tlr1hl (1k) as the switches on that is king.

Fits safariland duty holsters

I have both lights. I really enjoy the x300 more. Olight gets too hot. Its a good light, but i wouldnt run it on my daily. Its a great first light. A light is better than no light, So if you can't get the surefire, grab the olight.

I had to grab that olight for a shockwave build I worked on. For the price, I can’t justify the surefire. Some more tests and maybe I’m in for the $300 for a light. Hitting the switch on the wall lights up a room well….why pay all that money? The shockwave itself was $500….to spend $300 on just the light seems ludicrous. $86 olight…$214 worth of 12ga ammo……? Not even a question. Now I went cloud for my ar because it’s 100% waterproof and submersible to 100’ for 24hrs. That’s worth the $289 I paid and that came with torrent mount and remote buttons (also waterproof). So if the x300 was 100% waterproof (my glock has maritime spring cups!!!lol) then I’d consider paying. But for a side rail mounted light (shockwave has quad rail heat shield), on a mad max boom stick backup weapon…Olight rules. Even now, I’m running a baldr S on Glock because of the 800 lumens and blue laser.

I dont understand your choice here but I respect it. By your own research the olight outperformed the sure fire by a large margin. It’s very durable, reliable, and 1/3 of the cost. That’s like these guys who talk about all the issues with a factory Glock and how they made several modifications. Then turn around say that the glocks are still their choice and great guns. I think people are attached to a name and a brand. That’s okay though. Thanks for sharing and what you guys do for the industry.

Did you also hand select an Olight out of a few examples?

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Which one is more durable? Surefires are known for being able to take abuse. That’s important.

Sooooo will the pl turbo fit in a x300 safari land owb holster??

You did not mention the Olite is reported to heat up quickly , and you did not mention the Olite has a strobe mode. Strobes can practically blind an aggressor. How this and the on off switches compare must be left to another review perhaps. Thx for the info. Be Well!

😂 that intro!!!!

Neither Lol Either a TLR7A or the TLR1-HL. I run the Streamlight WML2 on my rifles, I think that's it? Can't remember the model numbers Haha the X300 Turbo is nice but insanely overpriced!! Then you gotta think about the fact that they decided to give us the better version of the same light for round 2 Lol not as bad as Sig but close. Unless I find it used or extremely on sale, I won't be getting the X300. I have several Surefire products and love them but you're definitely buying the name along with the product, most of the time it's fine but not always. Hopefully all that made sense Haha FYI-YES, this was helpful and always entertaining, thanks guys!! If I didn't own my own small business, I'd happily be a customer of yours Lol

Olight is better. I think your decision was based on your love for the x300

If you’re on a budget the answer is clear.

Different stroke I guess. The surefire switch is a non starter for me.

For me, the o light is the clear winner. I mean seriously, who wants to pay half the price of their gun for the light. Weapon lights in general are completely overpriced and ridiculous

My Valkyrie turbo doesn't have that adjustable mounting it must be a newer feature

you had me until you picked the surefire.... I have a surefire X300 (and an OLIGHT Valkyrie Turbo) and I am impressed by the OLIGHT when it comes to my night hunts. I wouldn't spend another $300 while a $89 light that is as good or better is out there.

Only one of these may explode

The buttons make the difference. Surefire wins only because of that for pistol use. As far as a rifle mounted light, the olight DESTROYS surefire!

Nothing personal, but reviews on items hand picked by the manufacturer's and sent to reviewers have always been suspect to me. Does the everyday guy get the same when he orders one.

Surefire is the most overrated and overpriced light on the market. Olight is just better and you don't feel like you overpaid.

Pretty typical low max output run time for Olight. It seems to me that it's really a 500lmn light since the bulk of its run time is at that output. And it only took them a decade to figure out what candela is. Olight's also a pretty untrustworthy company and I'd be interested to see if the average consumer gets the same lights they hand selected for you. I find it hard to believe that Olight has gone from the lowesr and worst performing popular WML to beating Surefire basically overnight. Good video! But Olight is going to have to step up their game for many years to come in order to be a viable option in my opinion.

The Olight is the better buy unless you’re real reason for a WML is impressing people on Reddit.

Would rather support surefire over a Chinese company.

All those specs mean nothing if the light can't handle being dropped or used hard...remember it's cheap for a reason. Not saying if it's expensive it won't break but olight has had history of being cheaply made products. They probably could have stepped their game up but I wouldn't chance it.

The TLR1 HL is the best light on the market. Surefire is overpriced and underwhelming. Every O-Light I've ever owned has broken over the course of about a year from standard use. That's only a sample size of 5 different models, but nonetheless, I'll never buy one again. The Holosun PID IR shows promise, I've been running and testing one for about 9 months now. That's a nice contender, for sure. The only downside is the internal batteries. In a pinch, being able to swap out dead batteries without waiting for a charge is nice. And the buttons are kinda small.

X300 toggle switch sucks. It hard to activate and feels mushy. The toggle switch of Modlite PL350 is much easier to use. However, they are both overpriced in my opinion. I prefer lights that performs without breaking the bank.