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Olympus 17mm vs. 25mm - [Which One Is A Better Travel Lens?]
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Күн бұрынWhich one is a better travel lens, Olympus 17mm or Olympus 25mm? You might need a fast prime on your travel if you have a travel zoom as your main lens. Which one is better for you?
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00:59 Second lens on your Travels
01:38 The differences
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02:27 Angle of View
03:36 Fastest Aperture
04:40 Image Quality
05:20 Safe walking
05:51 What do I prefer?
06:40 Which one did I use more?
07:26 Which one is better for you?
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@weisserth 2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty much a personal choice. Both lenses are small enough to pack both of them, but if I had to choose I'd pick the 17mm. I love that lens so much I own two copies of that lens.
@samanimeguy23 2 жыл бұрын
I want to get the black color 17 1.8...I already have a black 2.8 and a silver 1.8...
@terrywbreedlove 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the 17mm F1.8 on my EM5 back in 2013 when I first started shooting Olympus. But the 25mm 1.8 does have better IQ. The look reminds me of my 45mm 1.8. However the 12-40mm F2.8 really has become my go to travel and street shooter. Super sharp and fast focus and all in one focal length coverage :)
@andreasrochow5170 Жыл бұрын
I am on the lookout for an opportunity to purchase a 12-40 mm lens at a good price if it is smaller and lighter than the Lumix Leica Vario 12-60 mm.
@ZakWilson 2 жыл бұрын
I skimmed the comments and saw a lot of votes for the 20/1.7. Add mine to that - being able to stick my GX9 in a coat pocket but still have a bright aperture and very good image quality is awesome. Of course it splits the difference on the focal lengths, and I've come to enjoy that as well.
@terrywbreedlove 2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of the Lumix 14mm f2.5 for my PenF. I can put that combo in my coat pocket or fanny pack easily i think.
@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын
One advantage of a wider lens is, that you can always crop a bit in post, but you can't make any lens wider than it is. I'm talking about a small crop, not a complete reframing😀
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
That is true. It is not only about the lens. It is about seeing the world with a certain focal length. Like you have said. When you have a certain lens you start seeing opportunities that are good with that particular filed of view.
@JiiV3e 2 жыл бұрын
You can always stitch images in post.
@mattisulanto 2 жыл бұрын
@@JiiV3e Sure, you can do many things, but that's not a single exposure any more and also much more work than a simple crop. Relatively speaking, of course. It also requires, that you plan it ahead and take all the necessary photos.
@garybrown9719 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattisulanto great point i like micro four thirds for most of my pics. But i was thinking about getting the a9 and 20mm for landscapes
@TheBibi31 Жыл бұрын
@@JiiV3eI tried this. Traveled during cloudy weather. Took about 20 pictures of a building with a 25mm, hoping to stitch it and have a full view of the building in post. But the light was changing through the photos. (it took me 5-10 seconds to take all of them). Nothing I could do in post to make it look nice. Now I'd pick either a standard zoom or a 15/17mm for travels.
@hnahler 2 жыл бұрын
I love the manual focus clutch on the 17mm and paired with my ‘old’ E-M1 it makes a fairly compact setup for travel. I think, when I go out with my family it also signals that I’m not primarily out to take photographs but that I’m out with them as I won’t need a camera bag.
@eskomies 7 ай бұрын
I just got yesterday Olympus 25mm 1.8 for my GM1. One of my first prime lenses. Until recent years I have use extensively zoom lenses for my Canons. Thus prime lenses are new to me. I had tried 35mm for EOS M6 and liked it back then. I look forward to start learning what my style will be. Appreciated you showed same location with two different lenses. Really shows what type of images you will get from each lens. Also liked how you didn't push certain lens over other because of you own personal preferences or mandate.
@MasticinaAkicta 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite prime? Effective 35mm. It is nice to show a bit of width, without pulling apart straight lines. And it means less work later trying to fix it in post ;) That and it is a very natural one with a very natural feel. Allows you to get closer to something to still get some Background Blur going on with a nice soft falloff.
@i-klaus 2 жыл бұрын
The 17mm 1.8 is always on the E-P5 because it looks so cool (both in silver). It's quick and unobtrusive in the city. The 12-50mm is my travel lens on the E-M1 when I know for sure that it will be wet and dirty. That's pretty much good for everything that comes up. I use the 25mm 1.8 less than I initially thought, but the 45mm 1.8 more often.
@thomps91 2 жыл бұрын
An interesting video, Peter. I own the whole suite of f/1.8 primes and find that the 17mm is my "go-to" lens. I find that when shooting at night in dark areas at ISO1600 on the PEN-F, the 17mm finds focus immediately whereas, on occasion, the 25mm may need a couple of attempts to find focus. In addition, I find the 17mm more versatile due to its wider angle of view. While I have used the 17mm for street portraits I have been turning to the 25mm more as I like the additional "compression" it provides to the images. Like you, I couldn't distinguish between the two in image quality. I'm glad I have both but if I was forced to keep only one, it would be the 17mm.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@jodybiztube 2 жыл бұрын
Great thoughts. Thank you. I've been using 17/1.8 and 45/1.8 for years. But recently I felt tired changing lenses while traveling. Bought 12-40/2.8 and wowed. Ultimate travel partner.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
12-40mm f2.8 Pro is a good choice.
@neilcousineau4956 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Peter, great video, I travelled, Canada to Germany in 2019 just before Covid and I carried the EM10 mk ii with two lenses, a 17mm prime and a 40-150 zoom. I'm planning a Europe trip next year and will add the 25mm to this kit. On most of my outings I keep my gear to 3 lens only. My EM-1 mk ii kit is always one prime 12mm and two zooms 12-45 and 75-300. I find that if I have less gear I take more time to "see, think & compose" my shots, the message bag is light & small, and I don't fuddle around with kit. My every day true pocketable camera is an old Olympus XZ-2. I love the all in one lens, adjustable aperture ring on the front, flip screen, auto zoom, I shoot then the camera goes back into my pocket, no packs and no other gear needed. The XZ-2 is not as high tech or as the Ricoh GR but it works for me. Limitations make you better. :) Thanks.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
XZ-2 is an interesting camera. Yes, I agree that limitations can be helpful.
@geoffpople5111 2 жыл бұрын
Peter, interesting video. I have the 17mm 1.8 on my OM10 mkII as my first lens and liked the photos it produced. I tend to use the 12-40mm 1.8 a lot now especially for family photos. I too like the MF clutch, great idea that Olympus came up with. Geoff
@Quark.Lepton 2 жыл бұрын
I have both, but like you, I typically use the 25 when I travel. It’s quick and meets every shot I want to make with the results I want.
@AventineArchives 2 жыл бұрын
12-40 2.8 lives on my EM1 III when travelling, not the smallest but a great all round combo.
@SplashDamageNL 2 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. The 12-40 is always on my em-1 (overall travel) and the 17mm is standard for my pen-f (city walkaround).
@JayChokdee 2 жыл бұрын
12-40 + 1.8 prime for low light is all I ever need for travel.
@jakobsoegaard1886 2 жыл бұрын
The 12-40 also lives on my EM1 2 :]
@jjp_nl 2 жыл бұрын
Even though - like many - I haven't been doing much traveling lately, I'd probably take the 17mm F1.8 as faster prime (along with the 12-45mm F.4 Pro as versatile zoom lens) on my next trip. Sofar, I find composing with the 17mm F1.8 comes more natural to me, then with the 25mm. Going through my photo's, the 17mm has given me a lot more keepers then the 25mm. Up until now. it pretty much lives on my E-M5 III along with the 12-45mm F.4 Pro. Also....the Pana Lumix 25mm F1.7 I own, appears to suffer from focus-shift ever so slight around F4/F5.6 (admittedly not that much, but being spoiled a bit by the image quality my Oly lenses give...The Pana 25mm doesn't always cut it.
@richardpriestley477 2 жыл бұрын
I do like the 17mm lens but fore travel I tend to use my EM10 mark ii and the 14-42 lens for flexibility more than any other combination.
@bmiller025 2 жыл бұрын
The 25 f1.8 was the first lens I got, after switching to m4/3. I still use several of my older 4/3 lenses, including the 9-18, and that has served me well for wide angle, but at times it is slow. I don’t use the 25 a whole lot, but it is perfect for events and family. I recently got a Laowa 7.5mm f2, and there have been a few times when I have brought both the 25 and Laowa with me, and combined, they take up a lot less space in my bag than the 9-18 with its adapter. Cropping the Laowa shots to narrow its coverage has worked pretty well for me, too.
@lyndsaywheelans 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a used 17mm last week thinking that it might be more useful than the 25. I have to test it out but my default is to use the 25mm and the 12-45. I love the scale of the cities in Finland and Sweden - so pretty! Thanks for the video
@brucecggallagher1949 5 ай бұрын
Also Panasonic 14mm f2.5 or 20mm f1.7...I am not necessarily brand loyal in regard to lenses. I've had both Olympus and Panasonic cameras. I now have the Olympus 45mm f1.8 and 14mm-150m Olympus compact zoom. A good video Peter. Hallo from Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
@YoSpiff 2 жыл бұрын
My typical kit is the Tamron 14-150 F3.5 for general usage, Laowa 7.5mm f2 because I love those strong perspectives and the Olympus 17mm f1.8 for low light with a more normal view. I did just get a black Friday kit with the EM5 mk3 and 12-45 f4 Pro. With the extra 5 Mp and a pro level lens, I will see how I like using this instead of the 14-150 as my go-to lens.
@federicoalberto66 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video Peter. Lovely shots by the way! I agree about the convenience of the 17mm f1.8 which I pair with the SIgma 30mm f1.4 DC DN. Silent focus, tack-sharp and an ideal focal length for stolen portraits in the street or in bars. I still have the original Panasonic 25mm f1.4 which I decided to keep after testing the Olympus option a while back.
@alan.macrae 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Nikon shooter, 53 years this year. That said, I got into the M43 system about 3 years ago and now have two Olympus bodies (M1-Mk III & Pen-F) and one Panasonic (GX85). I love the M43 system as travel or 'fun' cameras but the Mk III regularly demonstrates it's immense prowess and, coupled with Olympus and/or Panasonic-Leica lenses delivers amazing quality. All that said, you're talking travel here and honestly, I love the Pen-F for that. Great camera and it usually finds my Panasonic-Leica 15mm f/1.7 lens attached, a great pair. A single prime is a great way to 'refresh' your skills as a photographer. It makes you move about, think more about what you're shooting and how you shoot it. Thanks Peter, stay safe and healthy.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I totally agree that restricting your self to one lens will help to get better. Have yuo ever tried to use something else than 17mm as your only lens?
@alan.macrae 2 жыл бұрын
@@ForsgardPeter, Yes I have. The Oly 25, 45 & 75 f/1.8, 60 f/2.8 micro lenses are in my M43 kit, along with a few zooms.
@bakermantube 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 12-40 2.8 zoom lens, the 17 1.8 & the 45 1.8. A very interesting question. I use the 12-40 when I don't want to change lenses and use it more in daylight and to have the 12mm wide angle. The 17mm is a compromise for me between a 12mm and a 25mm lens and I like to use it much in low light conditions. Interssting and informative video! A part of my family lives in Karlskoga and other regions in Sweden. I am from Germany.
@EricSnissaert 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter! I normally use the lumix 20mm 1.7 for landscape (evening-night) photo's. For people I use the 25mm 1.8
@AlexeyVerlinger 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! For travelling I usually take 9-18mm zoom, and fast 25mm 1.8 for evening photos. Both are pretty small, and their combination makes me totally happy))
@ForsgardPeter 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@p.io7 2 жыл бұрын
Leica 15mm and Zuiko 45 mm were the only two lenses I was taking with me when I had em5 and I can recall that switching lenses were a bit painfull. Now I have Em1.3 but not traveling yet for obvious reasons...but when I do start traveling I'm thinking to get a pro zoom lens this time or even 14-150mm kit lens.
@moggridge1 2 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting, thanks Peter. Orebro looks like an attractive place.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yes it is a pretty city.
@rogerquenault7207 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I take my EM5 MKII + 12 1.8 - 25 1.8 and 45 1.8 and find that most pictures are taken with the 12 and 25 about 40% each and 20% with the 45 I have thought of taking just the 25 but the extra space and weight of the 12 and 45 is so minimal I take them all.
@maratbabayan9332 Жыл бұрын
When I was using em5 i prefer 17/1.2 as my everyday lens due to it gave me a chance to take cool environmental portraits with subject/background separation and instead of 25 this lens was usable indoors in tight spaces. I really recommend to every m4/3 owner if you need only one lens which can give you everything in one - buy 17/1.2 instead of 12-40/2.8 or 25, at least try to use 17 and you'll get why it's a great lens. Yes you need some time to get used to this focal but it takes not long time. 25 has to be your second or third lens. First lens is 17/1.8 (1.2 if you have money), the second one is 45/1.8 (you don't need to spend more money buying 1.4 or 1.2, coz 1.8 works absolutely fine) and only after that you have to look at 25 mm (but i recommend to look at something wide like 12 or 9 mm)
@nlanca1 2 жыл бұрын
I like to go out with just the one lens, either the 17mm or the 25mm usually, but lately I've surprised myself by using the Lumix 14mm as well. I've had some intersting results and also find it a very compact set-up on my Pen f.
@johnfallows3822 2 жыл бұрын
I think I would go for the 17mm Peter as I would use my legs to zoom in and out. Fortunately, I have the 8-25mm f4 zoom so don't have this problem. However, I understand this lens is in very short (or no) supply at present due to chip shortages. On the other hand, either of these fast primes would be better in low light.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
8-25mm f4 is a good travel lens too. I have the lens also, but have not used it for my travels. I might take it with me for my next trip. (Do not know when that is).
@garybrown9719 2 жыл бұрын
Great point I agree primes are what makes micro four thirds portable And if you like focal lengths over 80mm they really shine
@jakobsoegaard1886 2 жыл бұрын
I used to be more in to 35 mm ish angel of view….bought the Olympus 25 1.2 mm and that lens is fantastic…best lens I ever had ..and I began photography in the mid 1980…I recently got the 25. 1,8 to use on my OMD 10 …smaller lens…very nice lens for street I combine it with Panasonic 15 mm 1.7
@lgude 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the normal perspective of the 25mm but vastly prefer wide angles because that is simply the way my eye sees and remembers scenes. So the 17 mm for me of these two. I noticed I usually clearly preferred your 17mm shots. For me the 28mm equivalent is the Panasonic 14mm is my favourite walking around lens for street photography day and night. I did just get a 25mm from Olympus here in Australia as part of a promotion when buying the OMD EM5 Mark lll. I’ve been carrying it and the 45mm on walks to get a feel of the difference between normal and short telephoto. Thanks.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@Michael-fw5ef 4 ай бұрын
The wider lenses have more in the frame, but everything is pushed further back in the image. The narrower lens has less in the frame, but everything is pushed forward in the frame.
@alex-sd 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 14-150 zoom, the 25mm and 7.5mm Laowa for traveling. These three lenses fill all my needs from landscapes, indoor, street, and portraits. I prefer the tighter perspective of the 25mm over the 17mm. I also heard the 25mm has better bokeh and is a bit sharper than the 17mm. The MF clutch though would have been nice to have on the 25mm.
@joecarey7123 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's what I need to do. One zoom and one prime, just to test myself. I usually take too many lenses and complicate life. I need to teach myself to move to or move away from an image, which is why your comments resonated with me.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Try it and see how it fits your style. Carrying too much gear might take the attention away from the image itself.
@jasonwrites9186 2 жыл бұрын
I think if you're travelling to a new city, the 17 is ideal. If you *live* in the city, I like taking the 45 for a different view of a familiar place. ...which means I leave the 25 at home. ;)
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes a 45mm might be a good choice. That gives you a bit different possibilities. Details and squeezed perspektive.
@shane29431 2 жыл бұрын
I actually like to bring the 25mm 1.8 and the 45mm 1.8. I never feel like the 25 isn't wide enough for most of my photos and I can still get some good subject separation at f2. I bring the 45 because it is also very small and I always end up taking pictures of family. I usually bring the EM10 II or GX9 with me, but on this next trip I'm planning to try using the E-PL10 for an ultra-compact solution.
@andreask.3752 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Great comparison. I personally prefer the 25mm lens.
@hedydd2 2 жыл бұрын
17mm for me for an all-round prime. If I had a 12mm prime, maybe the other would be a 25mm. I do have a 19mm which is regrettably a f2.8, which is fine unless it is really dark but can’t justify changing it for the Olympus 17mm. The main reason being that I own two full frame primes of 24 and 28mm [12 and 24mm field of view in m4/3], the 28mm being a fixed lens f1.7 camera.
@kiwipics 2 жыл бұрын
I started out in the late 70s with a Zenit E, 56mm helios, cosina 28mm and a Hanimex 135mm. I've slways regarded the 50mm, 28mm, and 135mm to be the best beginner set up.
@devroombagchus7460 2 жыл бұрын
For me, travel means light, compact lenses, so no PRO. Not being a professional, the extra quality and speed costs too much. Standard I tend to use 17mm and for more cropping, the 45mm. For extra light weight, I only take the 14-42, although it is a bit slow. Hopefully, stabilization will save me.
@klaustomasini 2 жыл бұрын
My gear for travelling: E-M5 mark III and all olympus lenses:12-100 f4, manual 24 f2.0 with adapter, for city wildlife 40-150 f2.8 incl teleconverter mc-14
@Lordvader330 2 жыл бұрын
I use the 12-200. The lens makes a great handle for vlogging. I love that lens
@valdiskrebs566 2 жыл бұрын
My travel kit… * outdoors: EM-1 & 14-150mm (weather-sealed) * indoors: Pen-F & 17mm and 45mm f/1.8s - the late David Thorpe called these the “Batman and Robin” of MFT lenses 😉
@mimstyle 2 жыл бұрын
I use always the 17mm 1.8, reason one : because it fit with my em1 III, grip higher level and ready to catch in my peak sling 6L LoL reason two : I did my best photos with it, and I have the best primes of m43 reason tree : is the easiest to use between this and my 25mm
@Transterra55 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 17mm, especially in the city. Love your images!
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@franciscocarneiro181 2 жыл бұрын
For urban landscape, may be 17mm. 25mm better for specific images, not necessarily related with where you are, more about images that could have been taken no matter where, more proximity. So if I had to choose only one FOR TRAVEL, it would be the 17mm. 17mm, having a longer perspective, will allow me to see the context of the places I visit, in the end it's a matter of perspective, general urban perspective, ambiance. Also, 17mm on Olympus, also makes artistic "near field" perspectives, like parts of a building, parts of boats, litle boats, one building, etc. 17mm is also more versatil for me, IN MY EXPERIENCE. I hope this is clear... Thanks for the video. 17mm Olympus autofocus or 15 mm Leica dg autofocus if I am with people, 17mm Zhongyi Mitakon if I am alone. Also, I prefer to use 17mm when I want to make a 25mm effect because I go foward with my legs. If I have a 25mm and I need to make a 17mm effect, I have to go back... wich is less comfortable, just in general terms. Finally, with the 17mm I can crop.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@frederickbelin 2 жыл бұрын
I think you’re right with your comment about adapting your style of photography to the lens you have on your shoot. I’ve been doing a lot of street photography with the Olympus 12mm lens. It gives an interesting perspective. Unless you have a specific job or task in mind, it’s fun to bring along a lens that you may not otherwise have used. It stretches your skills and lets you focus on different things and brings originality to your photography.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@dogblessamerica Жыл бұрын
20mm f1.7 plus the 12-32mm pancake is a good travel combo; the 20mm isn't strictly necessary but the shallow dof and wide aperture is sometimes nice to have.
@gabithemagyar 9 ай бұрын
If I take my EM5 m2 on a casual trip, I usually take the power 14-42 kit lens (with the auto lens cap) , the 14-150 zoom and the 17mm f1.8 if most of the pictures will be outside and/or in decent light. Mostly I keep the 14-150 on the camera but use the 14-42 for very casual shots (restaurants etc,) and the 17mm for darker environments. I know that kit lenses are generally frowned upon but I actually find the images with the 14-42 quite acceptable and for versatile compactness it can't be beat. I have a 12-40 f2.8 PRO but I reserve that for instances where my focus is on taking the best pictures I can ("special" trips), rather than collecting casual trip memories.
@chanakarnorsuwan5896 Жыл бұрын
Very clear, Peter
@johnyutzey6504 2 жыл бұрын
I have both, but of the two I prefer the 17 for the slightly wider FOV. However, for travelling, I prefer the Panasonic 20mm f1.7 on a small body.
@tonyb4326 2 жыл бұрын
A great comparison video Peter, thank you.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks.
@Leptospirosi 2 жыл бұрын
It's about what you like to take pictures of. If you like to frame the environment views, the the 35mm is more flexible, especially in interiors when you can't walk back. If you prefer detail and abstract images, then the 25 is more flexible as it doubles as a nice portrait lens which it's still wide enought to get in some of the background, but in the end the two are close. Things gets more tricky if you carry a third lens with you, like a 45mm or a 12: then one of the two previous lenses becomes often redundant. In general I think the pictures with the 25mm are more interesting, but that's me.
@hansemannluchter643 7 ай бұрын
Both... My Rokkor 35mm 1.8 weighs 450 grams with filter and lense-caps. My 85mm 1.7 Rokkor weighs 490 grams with filter and lense-caps. My Zuiko M43 17mm 1.8 and 45mm 1.8 weigh 320 grams with filters, lens-caps and hoods! It's pretty much a no-brainer, isn't it?
@Narsuitus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Based on my 35mm film experience with 35mm lenses vs. 50mm lenses, I know that I preferred the 17mm over the 25mm for a single travel lens with a micro 4/3 camera. However, when I vacation travel with only one prime lens and one micro 4/3 camera body, I actually prefer the 20mm f/1.7 Panasonic lens.
@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@asterix908 Жыл бұрын
When I was on APS-C, My fav lens was a 50mm f1.8, so 75mm equivalent portrait focal length. My first choice when I moved to M43 was the 25mm, but I soon felt the 25 and even the 20mm felt middle of nowhere for some reason. The composition always felt too tight or I don't know what. But I moved to 17mm and it just feels right. It has become by permanent Fav. The field of view was wide enough to be very useful as a general purpose. You could always step closer to subject for a tighter crop. The lens functions exceptionally well on newer Olympus bodies and I could always crop if need be.
@ForsgardPeter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@peternumber19 2 жыл бұрын
Night use is usually in a built up area. 25 is often overwhelmed too quickly. 17 is sometimes too wide but at least you can crop.
@govertvanamerongen5902 2 жыл бұрын
I have bought the 17mm 1.8 as 3rd lens after 45mm 1.8 and the 12-42 r kitlens... I use the 17mm 1.8 as standard. Oh it is a gem. For almost any situation... only for portaits i use 99% the 45mm 1.8...
@petrvalach6288 2 жыл бұрын
17 mm has a really much better quality of image, I would say. it's nearly pro lens I think. 25 mm is (maybe) the weakest lens in Prime row, I would say. But it doesn't mean it is bad lens. But in Prime lens row there are better lenses.
@TFPMadcow 2 жыл бұрын
Em10ii with Oly 17&45 f1.8 was my preferred travel kit for a long time. If need zoom I use 12-100 f4 and 25mm f1.8
@regentsthilaire6404 2 жыл бұрын
I hesitated between the 17mm and the 25mm, with the 20mm there is no more hesitation, and F1.4 Pro seems a very good compromise. My next purchase.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Good choice.
@robertromanelli9425 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy both these lenses and use them quite a bit. I guess which one I choose is based on my subject and mood. As always, thank you Peter for yet another great video.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@momchilyordanov8190 2 жыл бұрын
When I travel, basically never visit places or attractions during night. I'm in the hotel, killed by walking all day :) Hence - no prime lenses. I end up using a zoom, because it's very convenient. In Olympus lineup, I had 12-40 and 14-150. The 2.8 is a better lens, but 40 can be too short if you want to make a photo of something in the distance. My choice would be 14-150 or even 12-200, for the wider wide end.
@thomaseriksson6256 Жыл бұрын
I traveling with a normal Zoom. as 18-55mm on Fuji X-Pro 1
@haraldspies2546 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the 17mm lens for city photography. It helps composing better pictures.
@lorenschwiderski Жыл бұрын
Just added the Olympus 25mm f1.8 lens to my collection of MFT gear. One problem I have never had before --- the beauty ring is apparently stuck and will not budge. There is no way to get an hood on it. I guess I use it without a hoodie. ;) Take care, Loren
@daysofgrace2934 2 жыл бұрын
Have to say the Lumix Leica 25mm F1.4, it will give you shallow DOF up close, balance it out with the 45mm F1.8 for better background compression...
@widiantonugraha1421 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, I used 25 mm and attached Sony Wide adapter x0.7. So, I have both of 17 & 25 😁
@hnahler 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, Peter. You may want to tell less experienced photographers, how they can analyse which focal lengths they used most. I know how to do it in Lightroom but not everybody uses that.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
That is true.
@m47d48xt 2 жыл бұрын
I don't use Lightroom but I upload my processed photos to Google Photos and the Information button there will show you the focal length. Also the Preview app on my Macbook will show that if you press Command I. I think its a very useful exercise - I looked at all the photos I had taken from a trip earlier this year which were all taken on a kit zoom and analysed them into wide / standard / tele and was surprised by the result - far more wide than I would have guessed, so on my last trip where I wanted to travel light I took only the Panasonic 15mm
@WMedl Жыл бұрын
As both the 17 mm and the 25 mm are very tiny there should be no either-or! Both of course! On travels I prefere the 12-100 mm f/4 in the day and the 17 and 25 during night.
@moncho33 2 жыл бұрын
On my last trip I took my Lumix G7 with the Olympus 17mm and the Lumix 25mm. Most of my photos were shot with the 17mm. Only once or twice I wished I had taken a longer lens.
@aquariuslady777 Жыл бұрын
As a freelance photographer I have the Olympus om-d e-m5 mark ii body with Olympus lenses 14-150mm and 25mm 1.8 prime ...love all Update: for 2023 I updated my camera body to the OM-D E-M1 Mark ii and the 25mm pairs with it beautifully.
@hnahler 2 жыл бұрын
I love the practicing with a single focal lengths but generally do that more in my local area where I won’t ‘fear’ that I may not get the shot because of the lack of a zoom lens.
@ubarhd1 Жыл бұрын
Interesting tips thanks
@sassanlachini5383 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your analytic thoughts. I did compare OM 17 vs PL 25 F1.4 . For street only maybe the 17 would be better. I sent the 17 back and sticked to the 25 because the distortion of the face in portraits disturbed me.
@joanantonim.p.2400 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks , Peter... 👌👍🙏 "SALUDOS... 👋🙋😃 "
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks
@davidbackhouse4106 2 жыл бұрын
Strangely enough I usually take the 17/1.8 with my Olympus camera but the 25/1.7 with my Panasonic camera. But that is more to do with the size of the lens matching the body size - the 17 looks a bit odd on a G85 (but works perfectly well, including the focus clutch actuating both enlargement and peaking). Using any single lens, even a zoom, is always a compromise. The 17 is probably my favourite, and it has to be the fastest focusing lens on the planet.
@olympus2OM 2 жыл бұрын
A good combination for traveling: 17 f1,8, 25mm f1,8 and 40-150 f4-5.6.
@gamingwithstand6886 2 жыл бұрын
If I'm going to travel I have a few combos. One camera and 12-40mm f2.8, 12-50mm or 18-42. Some other combos 18-42 and one prime or 17mm f2.8 25mm F1.7 and 45mm F1.8. I don't care about high ISO now with DXO PhotoLab 4 Deep Prime. So slow zooms are fine also.
@hauke3644 2 жыл бұрын
I'm more the "standard focal length" type, too, but sometimes it's nice to get some more scene into the shot. So as a universal lens, I like 20mm and the Lumix 20mm is a good choice for that. Although it is a bit expensive for it's cheap make and the slow AF. I'm looking forward to the new M.Zuiko 20mm/1.4, which might become the best answer to your question.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
The 20mm f1.4 is most likely a lens that I will be using a lot.
@TigerCarpenter 2 жыл бұрын
nice photos! I can cover 12-40 with my standard zoom lens and I use it most often, especially when I film my channel content, so that I can zoom in on the desired part of the composition. but when it comes to prime lens, I prefer 25mm PRO. it lets me take more candid street shots from a little bit further distance without scaring people and somehow the photos look better for my eyes when taken with 25mm. I actually like to shoot my channel content with tele lens, as it narrows the field, and blurs the unwanted surroundings like messy background or sides
@LauriMajamaa 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the time my Go-to-lenses are 12-40mm f/2.8 and 45mm f/1.8. 12-40 is great allarounder and 45mm is awesome portrait lens. I also have 25mm but it’s a little bit dull for me and don’t use it at all. 17mm could be great tho…
@jpsteiner2 11 ай бұрын
I like both lenses. Perhaps that's why I tend to use the 20 mm f/1.4 if I'm only carrying one lens. Principally for city-scapes.
@ForsgardPeter 11 ай бұрын
20mm F1.4 Pro is the lens that I am using most of time.
@garybrown9719 2 жыл бұрын
I like 12 and 45
@lvca.avellino 2 жыл бұрын
12-40 pro is must Have. 25mm I use less of the 17mm. Probably I buy the lumix 15mm for one little lens travel to use with my zuiko 45mm 1.8 that I love... I Have Olympus and Panasonic body
@stuarthirsch 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3 primary OLY a 17mm, 25mm, and 45mm f1.8 primary lenses. If I could carry only 1 lens it would be the 25mm. If I could carry 2 lenses it would be the 17mm snd the 45mm. Unless I'm are doing wildlife or sports photography they should cover it all.
@BrentODell 11 ай бұрын
I don't currently ahve any fast primes, but I have the 10-25/1.7, and that covers everything I need to landscape/street/vacation stuff. I have the 100-400 for capturing wildlife and semi-macro shots. I wish there were some small, weather-sealed primes for Micro 4/3. There's the Oly 1.2 lenses, and the Sigma 1.4, but none of those are really compact.
@MrSigmarilion Жыл бұрын
I always go with my 12-40 pro version and my 75-300.
@Arcade1959 2 жыл бұрын
J'ai les deux optiques. Elles ont chacune leurs spécificités et elles ont des rôles différents. Je vais me procurer un 12mm 2.0
@sl-rt5kv 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. For some reason I have never warmed up to 17mm. I have always preferred 14mm or 15mm and 25mm. This preference goes back to the days when I was shooting 35mm film using lenses equivalent to those focal lengths in full frame. Obviously 17mm is as good as those other focal lengths. For some irrational reason I just never liked that focal length.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Your style is more towards wider than 17mm. That is totally ok and that is the beauty of photography. We like a different things and that is totally ok, even prefred
@Acomyztly 2 жыл бұрын
It is a good question. First I take with me the omd m1 MII for travel. If I know the place to visit, the 17 and de 45mm are my choice , sometimes I take the 12mm with the 45. But if it is a new place, I prefer a zoom lens and take with me the 12-100 f/4, especially for interiors (church, old houses), sometimes I do not to carry a lot, I take the 12-45mm f/4, but It is not stabilized and it is for day time and outside. If I intend to do video, I take the old 12-50mm f/3.5-6.3 (because the smooth electronic zoom) and the lumix-leica 15mm f/1.7. You see, 17 or 25 is not an easy choice :{) Saludos from Mexico.
@stehlealexander 2 жыл бұрын
I would take more Differenz in Lens: 25&12 / 17&45
@ariunboldgaram-ayush8914 2 жыл бұрын
For me 20mm is the best compromise between of those two for traveling.
@johnsmith-gs4qf 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 12-60mm zoom, 40-150mm zoom, and 45mm prime lens in my travel bag (Olympus omd em1 mark ii camera ). I usually use the 12-60mm because it covers from a practical very wide to moderate telephoto length. I like using the 45mm for portraits of my friends. I use the 40-150mm the least (usually for landscape pictures, buildings, and other things in a long distance from me)
@LarsLarsen77 2 жыл бұрын
Try the 40-150 for portraits!
@perandersdahlstrom2846 2 жыл бұрын
The announced 20mm 1.4 looks appealing to me. It is of course bigger than the 1.8 lenses in this comparison but should be significantly smaller and lighter than the Pro 1.2 lenses.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
I am too waiting for the 20mm f1.4. It might become my favorite lens.
@normee7249 2 жыл бұрын
I sorta have various small kits, from my smallest 25/1.8 on an Epl7, then my 12-45 on Em5III w/ Laowa 10/2 (expanding to a second body Em10II and 56/1.4) BUT my sweet spot is between 17 and 25...so the lightly rumoured 20mm f1.4 PRO would be a great option.
@bradleyeid9260 2 жыл бұрын
Best lens for travel. This question never seems to go stale. For photo walks the 25mm F1.8 or 12-40 F2.8 are my favorites, mounted on an E-M1 MKII. Traveling with family, I want my people in many of the photos. 25mm is too tight and the PRO lens is too big. Really changes the atmosphere if you pull out a PRO lens while sitting down for dinner with the family. I found 17mm was not wide enough for many indoor situations, specifically shots while sharing a meal. 14mm works better. My primary travel kits is a Lumix 14-42mm F3.5 and a Zuiko 25mm F1.8. Not using the the Olympus 14-42 pancake, because it takes too long from power-on to ready-to-shoot. F4.0 seems to be fast enough for most social situations. Traveling with both lenses is easy, because either one can fit in a pocket. The 25mm does not get used as much, but it has produced some of my favorite images.
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Good point about the pro lens and the atmosphere.
@jeffdrew625 2 жыл бұрын
I liked your postcard shots! Fwiw, my style has changed after traveling & using Pen-f with primes vs 12-40mm pro etc. Generally my go to kit was 45/25/12mm, or the 12-40mm in a small canvas bag. Enter a new LUMIX 20mm mk2 f1.7 ! the new LUMIX 20mm is delightful to use and carry! I’ve always liked that perspective and gravitate towards it with other systems- a slightly wide normal view. It’s also a natural fit on the Pen series, IMO. The m Zuiko pro lenses are truly awesome on the pro bodies tho!
@ForsgardPeter 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
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