OM-1 + 150-400 f/4.5 - VS - A1 + GM600mm

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Dennis Jacobsen

Dennis Jacobsen

Жыл бұрын

I have shoot the two systems side by side and are comparing the photos in this episode. It is a real world comparison and nothing scientific just photographing in a few locations i visit regularly. This video is just to show what to expect from flagship camera systems from both a Micro four thirds sensor and a Full frame sensor system.
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@NotSoGoodGamingTV
@NotSoGoodGamingTV Жыл бұрын
Wow, I was just browsing and looking for these comparisons! Excellent video.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Glad its usefull :) thanks
@medicineman4040
@medicineman4040 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic series. Your effort is very much appreciated. I too have the A1+600/4........and I'm aging. We have also OMD M1 Mk III and M1X; so we are familiar with the Olympus ecosystem. But with age comes inability to heft and wield heavier kit.....so I'm studying the Oly 150-400 with the OM-1. Thanks for showing what can be done.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 4 ай бұрын
Thank you 😁 the OM-1 and 150-400mm is a really good alternative to the FF systems and super light compared
@steveglennan
@steveglennan Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison, thanks for sharing.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
You are welcome 👍🏻😁
@allanh8227
@allanh8227 Жыл бұрын
Superb video and an excellent and objective comparison. I just moved to the OM system precisely because of size, weight and portability, especially as I became more seasoned. At twice the cost of the Sony I don't see twice the result especially now that post processing programs are advancing so fast; however, both are fantastic, and each system has their advantages and disadvantages. Again, thanks for an excellent, very objective video comparing of the two systems...Cheers.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you Allan, appreciate your comment 👍🏻😁
@pankajnjoshi9673
@pankajnjoshi9673 10 ай бұрын
I really like your content and have subscribed for more. I am an OM systems user. You have done a good job of putting these systems side by side. It is relatively easy to compare the shallowness of the background, noise level, sharpness, AF tracking. But it is not so easy to compare the ability to get the bird in the frame, to reach to a difficult location quickly and to maneuver the system to catch a fast flying bird. On many occasions that is the difference between having a shot and not having a shot. Even more so if you use pro-capture feature, or 50fps or even 120fps capability.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 😀👍🏻 Appreciate your nice feedback. Yes its not “Who is best” but more what you can expect from the different systems. have a great day!
@brianlemke6017
@brianlemke6017 Жыл бұрын
Terrific video and great shots - from both combos. Great to see a comparison without declaring a “winner.” No question full frame flagships like the A1 and the 600 f4 have advantages over the M43 gear. But when you offset them with the size and weight - not to mention the computational features and cost - the Oly gear is a very compelling choice. If you had used the Zuiko 300 f4 pro in the comparison you may have been even more impressed with the weight saving at exactly the same reach. Full disclosure - I have owned and used the OM1 - 150-400mm 4.5 TC combo since last summer. I moved over from Nikon because I just didn’t want to buy the Z9 and spend C$18-24,000 on a monster 400 2.8 or 600 f4 combo. One tip. Shoot the OM1 to expose to the right a bit, slightly overexposed, then reduce and adjust in processing. In other words, push the ISO a bit then roll it back. The noise control improves as a result.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you Brian and for the tips to! appreciated :)
@joanfilbert3012
@joanfilbert3012 9 ай бұрын
Hi, I have been using my d-em1 now for two years and feel ready to start using RAW to get the maximum quality. Please let me know which application you would suggest me to use? I've only been using JPEG s until now. Thanks 👍
@johnatherton8602
@johnatherton8602 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Dennis. I understand what you are trying to do here, but to me you have to look at what you want from your camera system. I have used full frame and micro 4/3rds and have realised they have different attributes. Full frame wins in many situations, noise, poor light, subject separation etc. I eventually went with micro 4/3rds because of the way I like to do my photography, which is on the move. I can hike all day with my OM-1 and 300 F4. At the end of the day the most important thing to me is to enjoy my photography, sure if I pixel peep then full frame will win most of the time, but I have been very pleased with my results when printing A4 photos of small birds like Dartford Warblers, Kingfishers, small waders. I believe too many of us are constantly looking for perfection in our equipment, no system is perfect. I think we should all enjoy our photography with the kit we have and strive to get the best out of it. I practise and try to learn form the many experienced photographers on KZfaq.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I actually agree with you :) i wanted to go lighter and knew the trade off .. i only made this comparison because i have both systems now and had the chance to shoot them both side by side :) thanks for your comment John.
@michaelfarrell4824
@michaelfarrell4824 4 ай бұрын
Most of my photography is during 15 to 20 mile hikes often more than 3000ft in elevation. OM-1 was perfect for me
@Capcity44
@Capcity44 Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, Dennis! I did find it useful. I learned That sometime in the future, the OM system might be good for me. I’m glad to know image quality is so good. By the time I seriously consider switching over, I’m sure the auto focus will improve. That black woodpecker is absolutely gorgeous. Here in the US, we have its cousin the pileated woodpecker, which is equally beautiful.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Glad its usefull 😁 No question about Sony is superiour in this setup but the OM system performs super ans arw so easy to carry around 📷👍🏻😁 yes its a cool species to photograph 😁👍🏻
@Capcity44
@Capcity44 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife we’re all getting older. Some day, I might have to make the sacrifice of AF & IQ for weight savings. So yes, what you shared is quite useful. Your work is awesome. Keep it up
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
@@Capcity44 Appreciated Freeman, thanks! 😁🙏
@garfieldirwin
@garfieldirwin Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting an interesting and thought provoking video!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Hehe yes i knew i would get some "heat" with this comparison :)
@garfieldirwin
@garfieldirwin Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife No "heat" from me -- only appreciation for your efforts! I'm building up a new video rig round the Z9 (recently switched from the A1) but it's tripod bound so I'm looking for a light-weight hand-holdable long lens video rig for hiking, and the OM-1 + 100-400 figures prominently. The 150-400 is a nice lens, but no way I'd spend that kind of money on an MFT system -- the sensor is simply too limited vs. FF. Still, MFT has its place. Cheers!
@GiuseppeGessa
@GiuseppeGessa Жыл бұрын
Really, really interesting Dennis. The OM system I think is a good system, for every kind of photography. And yes, a comparison with the 200-600G lens would be really interesting 😀
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) i will do a comparison as soon i get the chance.
@MarkusGebhard
@MarkusGebhard 5 ай бұрын
Have you had a chance to compare the two lenses yet? Would be interesting to hear your opinion on it.
@greysuit17
@greysuit17 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@NikCan66
@NikCan66 Жыл бұрын
Superb video yet again
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁👍🏻
@kilik92
@kilik92 Жыл бұрын
High quality content Dennis! You should check zemlin lens hood and caps for the Sony 600! Would love to see a review of the shorter lens hoods for better portability!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀 i will check that one out, thanks for the tip!
@narinthip3058
@narinthip3058 Жыл бұрын
Results are as expected Dennis and thanks for doing it then sharing with us all. I also have direct true experiences shooing along side a friend who uses R5 and his Canon 600mm F4 lens w/wo TC1.4. For sure I can never compete with my friend in term of image IQ (DR and ISO) and the subject separation. The advantage I have is the portability and ability to get some shots he could never have gotten because of it. I will always get into certain position faster and better. Also, he would wear out a lot quicker then rely on this tripod while I am able to continue with two OM-1s, one equips with 300mm F4 w/wo TC1.4 and the other with 200mm F2.8. Yes, in very poor light, OM-1 will struggles or performs worse than R5 for fore sure A1 or Z9.. But just yesterday before sunrise, I went out with my friend and again I got the shots of the Great Horned owls dad and mom flying and bringing food to the babies using 400mm f2.8 where he couldn't pull it off. I got 300mm f4 for perch images and 400mm f2.8 set up for action shots. Anyhow, much appreciated for sharing the footage with those beautiful images.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for sharing your own experience :) :) :)
@ImagesWithPassion
@ImagesWithPassion Жыл бұрын
Yes that's the advantage of OM1+150-400mm, portability. Not to mention 10k€ vs 20k€.
@tomcruz5495
@tomcruz5495 6 ай бұрын
Which lens is that 400mm 2.8, or you mean the PanaLeica 200mm 2.8?
@filiplaw
@filiplaw Жыл бұрын
Great video Dennis, exactly what I was looking for! I think you should make the comparison video with the Sony 200-600mm. Firstly, the A1 + Sony 200-600mm set would cost around the same as the OM-1 + M.Zuiko 150-400mm, whereas the Sony set you compared here costs around twice as much as the OM System set. Secondly, the 200-600mm is also a zoom lens so it would be a closer comparison in terms of functionality. Anyway, keep on making the the great content, cheers!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment :) this was just to show the 2 sets i have now and use. I will make a comparison with the Sony 200-600mm as soon i have the time and also can lend the lens.
@ericnepean
@ericnepean Жыл бұрын
A great comparison, thank you for the video. The two configurations in this video are quite expensive, I would describe them as the “money is no object” configurations. What I think would be interesting to many, and certainly to me, is if one can obtain substantially the same performance for less money. To this end, a comparison of the Sony A1&GM200-600mm vs the OM-1&100-400mm would be quite interesting, and also the Sony A7Riv&100-400mm (perhaps in APSC mode) would be very interesting.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts Eric 😁
@philipgowdy
@philipgowdy Жыл бұрын
Very good comparison.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@brucegraner5901
@brucegraner5901 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video very much since I'm always interested in the opinions of other photographers about the gear they use. As a retired newspaper photographer I learned to appreciate zoom lenses and portability. While working I purchased Canon SX60hs and Leica V-Lux 114 bridge cameras for the online video work my paper required, using my Nikon D700 for sports and low light work. However, using these two bridge cameras, and now my Lumix G9 and 100-400mm lens, have taught me a new respect for small sensor cameras, especially for their long reach when it comes to wildlife. I envy the creamy-smooth backgrounds of full sensor cameras but my back and bank account really appreciate traveling light. Given how sensors and AF systems have improved so quickly it will be interesting to see how much closer they can come to current full sensor results in the future. I'd love to see a future Canon SX80hs come out with a creamy-smooth background digital filter.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and sharing your experience 😀 for now a i keep both systems but i am sure i will use the smaller setup more because of the size and then bring the big gun when i need better low light and action performance .. but like i say in the video, the OM system is very good and would be perfectly happy with using that if i wasn't in a position to have both or just the Sony gear.
@janwedek
@janwedek Жыл бұрын
Great video. Mange tak!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jan 👍🏻😁
@VynZography
@VynZography Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for putting in your thumbnail words what so many people still seem to fail to understand.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
🙂
@robj1366
@robj1366 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison, thank you. I would definitely like to see how you find the Sony 200-600
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) i try to get my hands on a 200-600 and repeat the side by side shoot :)
@JeffreyMcPheeters
@JeffreyMcPheeters Жыл бұрын
What a great series of comparisons in real world examples! Well done. Nothing much surprised me in your findings so far, as I'm a long time OM shooter from the film era, but also get to use Sony A1 and A9 with 200-600mm sometimes for a few days at a time, just for fun. For sports work, the 400/2.8 and 600/4 are able to give the best separation where it does matter at the professional level, but in wildlife, I think the DOF difference is not as critical for me. I think what does come into play is the distance to the subject and the amount of pixels in the frame the subject will occupy. If I can get close enough to fill the frame at 300-500mm on the OM, then compared with the FF, I will likely have more pixels for enlarging than with the Sony. But if the subject is far away and the need to crop on the OM is very great, then the 600mm will resolve more detail than the OM at 500mm, especially if ISO is higher. Plus we can extend the 600mm to 840mm f/5.6 and get more details if conditions warrant. This mainly matters with birds and fur, and conditions have to be very good for either system going out that far. On the other hand, I think if I could fill the frame on the Sony 600, then the OM has to pull back to 300mm so again, the amount of magnification on the 600 can, in good light, reveal more details than at 300mm on the OM, sometime, but then again, the closer the subjects, these lenses are so sharp that at some point, they resolve all the detail the human eye can actually see from relatively close distances like 20-30 meters. And the agility of the OM can sometimes make it easier to find the subject, with that zoom capability. I've used the 200-600 mostly, and it's a little bigger and not quite as sharp as the OM 150-400, but it's still a very good performer at about 1/4 the price. The Sony lens is a bit longer and heavier. I really like the handling of the OM-1 body with the 150-400 when I've gotten a chance to try it (the balance seems very nice) and I've tweaked the settings to where it's getting very good results, but as you say, it's AF sometimes skips one or two frames before coming back to critical focus. Not sure why, but everyone I know experiences it. It's just that at 50fps, it's still more than enough sharp images.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input to this topic 😁🙏🏻 i agree with you here
@joeret2896
@joeret2896 Жыл бұрын
Totally guessed wrong on the photos because I thought bokeh was better on the upper 2 pictures, which is what I took out of this comparison. In my eyes sharpness was equal in both lenes but the bokeh was smoother on the Sony before post processing. But after you post processed the photos for the Olympus the bokeh was much improved. Thank you for this comparison. Good job.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment :) appreciated
@Jay19876
@Jay19876 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison Dennis! I am glad you highlighted the benefits of both systems :) I am curious on what CAF settings you used on both your set ups for the birds in flight? I would expect the Sony to have performed slightly better (which it did) but not by much more if the OM-1 was set to its optimal AF settings for birds in flight. Did you use AI bird focus for both cameras? FYI, just incase you did, *do not use* CAF+tracking with the OM-1 for birds in flight, or with any AI autofocus mode, just us CAF with AI bird autofocus. Looking forward to your next video. Cheers!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁 I used C-AF with no locked on tracking on both with bird AF ON 🙂 Yes the Sony is spot on almost every time where the OM are a little unconsistent but does hit the mark, you just need to shoot more frames to make sure you got what you want 🦅
@Dustman-iu7yh
@Dustman-iu7yh Жыл бұрын
Great video. That would be a great idea comparing Sony 200-600 to the 150-400.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) i will see if i can borrow a 200-600 and make a real world side by by like like episode. Thanks for commenting
@rogerhance5883
@rogerhance5883 Жыл бұрын
Very good and interesting video Dennis (as always) I feel sure that in very poor light ,the Sony will beat the OM1. In good or average light there is probably nothing between them. I think you will also find the autofocus for video better on the Sony. My only complaint of the OM1 is that I wish the video focusing was better. I will be interested to see what you think of the Procapture feature on the OM1, once you start trying it out.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😁 fun to make it and see the two systems side by side. Yes you are right, when shooting in low light etc. the Sony will be be much better .. but i am impressed by the OM-1 and its MFT sensor 😁 hmm i did play around with video a little and i also have some AF issues here but need more time to get to lnow it better. 😁 yes i have to try it out and will use it next time i am in a situation where i need it (Small birds taking off from branches etc.)
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube Жыл бұрын
In good light, there's a big difference in background separation, which might matter sometimes. If you want to isolate the subject and there's a lot of foliage in the background, then with the 600mm f/4 on Sony, you will get a much better result. Look at 4:55. If you don't need this in the shot, then little difference indeed.
@jeanjia0910
@jeanjia0910 Жыл бұрын
I also agree that OM-1 needs to improve the video focusing performance, although there is already a firmware version 1.4
@timafken2297
@timafken2297 Жыл бұрын
Nice & quiet good comparison. Really appreciated. Now, on personal preference on the photos I have to say that while Sony has a really nice DOF it however for my taste removes the subject to much from their background / environment on a lot of instances where the OM1 with 150-400 does gets it “more” right. Probably I would say around F6ish on Sony is the sweet spot. Anyhow. As an OM1 User you got the AF issue spot on. The lens is perfectly fast enough. It’s one of the fastest in the Olympus system. However, the OM1 while a brilliant step forward from the likes of the EM1X really needs the FW 2.0 to smother the AF issues. For now the insane FPS and the brilliant ProCapture “fix” the AF inconsistencies. If they fix a lot then with the 2.0 an OM1 with the 150-400 would be insane value for money, which in principle it is already.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% :) thanks for sharing!
@sabyasachibanerjee124
@sabyasachibanerjee124 Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison. The DOF difference with FF does show a bit. Both systems look equally capable though
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks :) There are also difference in AF and keepers in focus image by image but that said, yes the OM-1 + 150-400 are absolutely capable :)
@umgawa12
@umgawa12 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great presentation, Dennis. I shoot both systems as well for different reasons: OM for speed agility, weight; Sony for percieved higher IQ. When you realize the format of presentation - computer screens and Iphones ( Ican'rt remember the last time I printed a photo at museum scale), micro 4/3rds Re the "best" choise for wiildlife endeavors. Good luck to all y fellow p-hotogs!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave 😁👍🏻
@fromia1
@fromia1 6 ай бұрын
Have tried comparing the images between using the 1.25x tc vs without tc and just cropping? I'm wondering how good the built-in tc is.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 6 ай бұрын
I dont have the files and gear anymore but if only cropping the A1 whoops the OM-1 😀 the only reason i was intersted in MFT was the otical reach vs high MP
@stevemurnan1702
@stevemurnan1702 Жыл бұрын
A very good comparison Dennis. If I were able to I'd have both systems. Given the choice of just one system I know the M43 system would get more use than FF. Having switched to M43 from the Canon R5 and 600mm f4 I won't be going back to FF. In absolute image quality FF is better than M43 but it's close enough and good enough for my needs. In terms of cost and portability M43 wins hands down.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve and i had the same considerations, not flagship FF quality but still very good IQ and performance and i will also grab this system more than FF for my small trips to local places for sure. But for full days at stationary locations i will still bring the big gun 😉😀
@stevemurnan1702
@stevemurnan1702 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife I think that's a fair comment and why, ideally I'd like both systems. My FF kit was superb but had become impractical to carry over any real distance. M43 is a compromise for me but not too big of a compromise.
@Andrewmusic100
@Andrewmusic100 6 ай бұрын
There are videos that are true gems and this is one of them. As for discovering the photos, I was wrong. I said 1 and 2 are Sony and 3 and 4 Om1. But in conclusion, I must say that I expected better bokeh from the Olympus lens, although it is understandable given its smaller size compared to the full frame sensor. Thank you very much for this video.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 6 ай бұрын
Thank you Andrew 🙂 you are right, its is not FF bokeh you get from MFT systems but the OM-1 and 150-400 have a FF pro feel to it and are the closest you get in my opinion. At some point i will go FF again 😁
@justinholding02
@justinholding02 Жыл бұрын
sharpness is one thing but I find the subject seperation looks so much more pleasing on the full frame setup.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and i agree. But i still think it dosent look as bad as expected on the 4/3 😁
@kbruff2010
@kbruff2010 7 ай бұрын
I believe you made a good video - but what focus modes did you use and did you employ the pro capture?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 7 ай бұрын
Thanks, no pro capture in this one just a comparison on the IQ on the two systems. Of cource A1+600mm is better but i just wanted to show what to expect 😁 BTW pro capture is a super nice feature!
@errantarcher
@errantarcher Жыл бұрын
I got all😢 4 correct though I have access to both system. I would like to see the 200-500 comparison the OM system cameras deserve more attention than they get especially with pro-capture and the other computational features
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Great 😁👍🏻 and yes it is way better than its reputation 📷
@ronschuddeboomdigiscoping3693
@ronschuddeboomdigiscoping3693 Жыл бұрын
Very nice…yes please do a comparison video with the Sony 200-600.😀👍
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Maybe i will :) thanks for the comment
@FuckYouTubeForHandles
@FuckYouTubeForHandles Жыл бұрын
Thank you for comparison video. Just one question: did you update OM-1 software to 1.4 version? Some users report much better AF performance on updated firmware.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁 yes updated to the newest firmware 👍🏻
@DouglasKubler
@DouglasKubler 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I wonder how you would rate the OM-1 mark ii for AF, any plans for the future?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 3 ай бұрын
Thanks 😁 no im not buying the Mark II .. ito minor af an update in my opinion 😎
@DouglasKubler
@DouglasKubler 3 ай бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife I still have to get an objective review of its AF capabilities relative to the OM-1. Sunk costs are less of a worry when updating from an old EM-1.
@systemanaturae105
@systemanaturae105 Жыл бұрын
Useful and interesting video. I could talk for hours on the plus and minuses for each system. The answer is simple - Buy both!! I have literally just ordered today a used Sony a1 and 100-400mm GM plus x2 TC which is smaller and more versatile than the 600mm lens you were reviewing. Already have the OM-1 and 150-400mm lens as well as wide variety of M4/3 lenses. I am only an amateur and now retired shooting mostly wildlife and nature photography and video. 😊😊😊
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
haha agree if you can, get both! but either one will make you happy in my opinion! :)
@systemanaturae105
@systemanaturae105 Жыл бұрын
I now have both. Just a question of getting use to Sony a1 which will be primarily for photographing very fast birds in flight such as swallows, house martins and kingfisher or similar fast moving animals. Doing wildlife photography can be challenging but is fun. A great hobby to have now I am retired from work. Gets me out and keeps me active. Going to Romania and the Danube Delta in two weeks 😊😊
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube Жыл бұрын
4:55 => This is why the lens can be smaller, it's just not collecting near the same amount of light. To get the same background separation as the GM600 f/4, you would need a 300mm f/2 for M43, and such a lens would be the same size, possibly larger, than the 600mm f/4.
@richardfink7666
@richardfink7666 Жыл бұрын
There is also no 800/4.5, certainly not as a zoom. Btw, the aperature is always the same no matter how big the sensor is.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)
@georgescanvas
@georgescanvas Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on your photographs and your channel.... I made two observations from watching this video. Full frame DOF is very artistic, but takes away the context from a photograph. Also, in this comparison the photographs from the Sony had a lime/yellow color cast. ..Best regards.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you George for your input and comment :) appreciated!
@Artyomthewalrus
@Artyomthewalrus Жыл бұрын
I will say, most of the sony photos did come out looking nicer. Although I do run with olympus and the 300mmf/4. Mostly because of the handling and it was what I happened to find a good deal on used. I do always envy FF, but I am really happy with olympus regardless. My skill is still the limiting factor 90% of the time, and it produces really good results, even if they aren't quite as good as the output from FF. I find my combo the perfect size for me for hiking and handheld shooting. And I also do a lot of handheld macro shots, and I find a lot of the features really convenient.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment Waldo 👍🏻🙂
@joeret2896
@joeret2896 Жыл бұрын
Great point on macro photos using the Olympus, I believe the focusing distance is only 1.3m. My lens arrives in two days. It’s a used but mint lens from a very reputable camera store and a 30 day window for return, as everyone knows the minimum wait time is 6-8 months for new. So again doing a macro shot at let’s say 1000mm should be mind blowing. That feature should be demonstrated one day in a video with this lens to show its versatility.
@EvanSpellman
@EvanSpellman Жыл бұрын
I used the one MK2 and 300mm f4 plus flash in manual with better beamer set up I was beside a fellow on grizzley bear boat tour shooting Nikon full frame with 600mm f4 He was stuck in one place with tripod while I moved around effortlessly getting different angles on the boat. I'm seriously thinking of getting the Olympus 150-400mm for it's zoom versatility. Thanks for your informative and professional video on this lens. I shot Nikon D4 full frame lots and know the Olympus has limits with low light and some focus issues,but with the flash extender I've had great success rate shooting bald eagles in low light with my Olympus bodies and lens. Good light and camera shooting to you 😊
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Evan 👍🏻😁 appreciate your input 📷 and same to you 🙏🏻
@jorgpfeiffer3351
@jorgpfeiffer3351 Жыл бұрын
The comparrison between the OM-1 100-400 and the Sony A1 200-600 World be the best and I hope you could do that for us. Would it be possible to shoot at ISO 2000-3200 without harsh Light or contrast and deliver us two optimised pictures of the two worlds, so we can print zu compare? I think if we optimise the two im Topaz you cant really tell a difference.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I will do the comparison sometime soon 😁 thanks for your comment 🙏🏻
@robertvanempel5810
@robertvanempel5810 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see the comparison with the Sony 200-600. It should be a good comparison as the DOF is closer to the Olympus. Om-1 user, but interested in the Sony 200-600 and a Sony camera.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert 👍🏻😁 i do consider making comparision 📷
@BenjaminAdamsVu
@BenjaminAdamsVu Жыл бұрын
Nice comparison Dennis, i am surprise that the images from the OM-1 is par with the Sony best lens, the light weigh is a big plus for me, getting older you know...LOL Thanks, Quan
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Quan! :) its absolutely a great light weight alternative for sure!
@dcarson
@dcarson Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for the video! I am considering both cameras. The A1, which I have rented, has a fantastic viewfinder image. Almost like a DSLR. How does the OM-1 viewfinder compare? Also, Mike Lane FRPS channel also compared these two cameras, as you probably know. He found that the OM-1 AF initial acquisition was a fair bit better but the Sony’s tracking was marginally better. However, the 50fps of the OM-1 tilted the number of keepers in its favor, so with very small and fast birds the OM-1 came out on top (especially with busy backgrounds).
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
:) :)
@gregm6894
@gregm6894 Жыл бұрын
Well done and objective video. Like others, I would have loved to see a similar comparison using the Olympus 300mm f/4 Pro lens, as it is probably as sharp as the 150-400mm @ 300mm. That comparison would show a greater variation in weight and price between the two systems. Clearly, the Sony set up gives better high ISO performance, shallower DOF, and more leeway for heavy cropping. However, one advantage to the OM System that is not mentioned, is the number of features that the Sony does not have -- the most important for birding, being the 'Pro Capture' feature. I shoot with an Olympus E-M1X and have gotten bird action images that I simply could not have gotten with the Sony system, without a truckload of extreme luck. I have a series from a Hummingbird altercation captured at 60 FPS that I would have missed with any FF system on the market right now. Aside from that, the LIve ND, Live Composite, and 15 frame in-camera Focus Stacking are game changers. I realize that soon, most top tier cameras systems will offer such features, but Olympus has always been on the leading edge of such innovative camera technology -- and one of the reasons I have been a consistent user of their gear.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing Greg and yes you are right :) but i only had access to the 150-400mm and wanted to see how the comparison looked from the best of both worlds right now :) appreciate you and others take the time to share your thoughts about this episode.
@palmor99
@palmor99 Жыл бұрын
I have both as well and I have much the same conclusion in terms of IQ. I think that says alot about the OM setup that there is even a comparison to be made. Which system I use depends on the conditions (light levels) I'm shooting in or how far I'm hiking. Question, when shooting BIF were you using bird eye-AF with or without tracking? I only mention it because the consensus is that tracking is pretty poor and you'll get more keepers leaving it off.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I to will use it in travel light situations 👍🏻😁 yes tracking off and subject detection / Bird ON 😁
@CamillaI
@CamillaI Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dennis twice the price twice as good ? Well not that straightforward as usual in wildlife photography ! I can see why I shoot wide open with the 600mm the isolation of the subject is superior ! A fairer comparison and more equal weight option is with the Sony 200-600 f5.6-6.3 ! I think the results would be even more similar with the f6.3 at the long end of the zoom from my experience. So no need to test the 200-600mm for me ! I always use the 600mm f4 when I can get it into position ! I went for 1 & 4 as the Sony A1 the quality is definitely there in both systems. Great comparison video you have saved me a lot of money looking like I will be sticking with the Sony A1 and 200-600mm in a walk about situation not investing in the lighter system ! A7iv and 200-600mm would be a great combo at half the price of the OM-1 system I thin🤔k ?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark :) it was fun to make this one .. and i knew it would give me some "heat" haha ;) i will do a comparison with the 200-600 because so many would like to see then shoot side by side . I dont know if i had a bad copy of the 200-600 but the Olympus 150-400mm is superior to the one i had for sure! but i will lend one from a friend and shoot them side by side, also to satisfy my own curiosity :)
@colintraveller
@colintraveller Жыл бұрын
Wonder which captures better detail of Hi flying Jets .. Which is what i like doing . Looking for something to replace what i currently use . Does the Tripod collar give good stability on the G600 . What was the mount on the smaller tripod ? . Be nice if you soley capture in JPEG for the next test .
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Yes the videohead and tripod makes a big difference, i use it because i shoot both photo and video. Thanks for your comment
@itsmealex9290
@itsmealex9290 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great video. If I consider the difference in price, the OM-System is doing a fantasitic job. Unfortunately the 150-400mm is not available at the moment. Did you test the OM-Sytems 300mm f/4. It has a similar angel of view and the same speed than the Sony 600mm f/4. What ist your opinion about this lens compared to the Sony System.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alex 😁👍🏻 havent tryed the 300mm lens so cant give you my opinion on that 😏 but the 150-400 has been fantastic so far 📷📷📷
@davewarren7693
@davewarren7693 Жыл бұрын
Test the 200-600 against the 100-400. That is the one I would like to see. The takeaway for this comparison was the blurring of the foreground and backgroundf by the Sony. Much better than the OMD. That is why I want to see the 2 lenses mentioned compared. Much more level playing field.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
You are right Dave 🙂 TBH i think the OM-1 + 150-400 will sit above the A1+200-600 in performance ( i had the 200-600 some time ago) for BIF i was not impressed with the 200-600 and also the reason i went all the way and got the GM600 😀but maybe i have to compare them to find out 🤔
@garfieldirwin
@garfieldirwin Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife For sharpness the 150-400 might beat the 200-600 (but I doubt by much) but the 200-600 will easily beat the 150-400 for subject isolation and superior IQ/lower noise due to the benefits of FF.
@trials6
@trials6 Жыл бұрын
A definite comparison of the Sony 200-600 would be great as comparing a Prime to a zoom doesn't make sense I my opinion as a Prime will always be sharper.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I agree :) this was not to try and make OM better .. just wanted to show what the two system could deliver in the same situation even thou it wasn't the most challenging locations i was on :)
@victorfeinstein1815
@victorfeinstein1815 Жыл бұрын
As you know I am using the both systems.I am dreaming that one day I can adapt the Olympus 150-400mm lens on one of my Sony bodies.Or a 50MP stacked sensor OM System camera.The quality of this lens is incredible.I have also Olympus 40-150mm f2.8 lens also a fantastic lens.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Some day maybe the 3/4 performing like the full frame are now :) i have considered the lens to!
@thomasphillips5850
@thomasphillips5850 9 ай бұрын
I would like to see the results of the 200-600 sony. I know that is really a great optic. I was surprised with the 150-600 . Good video thanks
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment 😀👍🏻
@jeromeclatot1769
@jeromeclatot1769 Жыл бұрын
very nice, quick question what about the price of each set up? camera and lens, the weight? camera plus lens, and length, camera+lens? thank you
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks 😀 i will remember more info next time 😁
@Jwitherow1964
@Jwitherow1964 4 ай бұрын
Great voice for the Om system, but you for got to mention the big price difference between them too.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 4 ай бұрын
Thanks and i thought i mentioned it 🤔 but sure a thing to take in when deciding what to get 🎥📷
@rileyschannel
@rileyschannel 7 ай бұрын
The OM-1 is looking good! That 150-400 is pretty pricey though, but not as pricey as that 600!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 7 ай бұрын
Its not cheap 😀 but its a really good lens and i love the reach and quality it delivers 👍🏻😀
@AmrominAlex
@AmrominAlex 3 ай бұрын
Great comparison. Thank you. The truth is not entirely correct. And the point is not only that the price of these assemblies differs exactly twice, but also in the type of lenses. In the case of Sony this is a fixed focal length, in the case of OM systems it is zoom. No matter how good a zoom lens is, it will always be inferior to a prime lens of a similar class in accuracy and sharpness. Try comparing the GM600mm with the Olympus 300mm f/4 pro. In this case, the focal lengths will be adequate and both lenses will be prime. It seems to me that the OM 1 + 300/4 Pro Set will surprise you even more. True, such a set will be three times cheaper than SONY A1 + GM 600.😁
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment and input 👍🏻😁
@tim1398
@tim1398 Жыл бұрын
@7:05 - it seems like sometimes the OM1 is not quite sharp like the focus is off or maybe the IBIS is inducing blur when panning?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Could be the IBIS .. the AF also tend to wave a litte back and forth between perfect focus and slighly of. I hope OM will look into improvements here 👍🏻🙂
@jimmyjohansson8477
@jimmyjohansson8477 Жыл бұрын
Mycket trevlig jämförelse, bra att du skrev avståndet i alla bilder.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Takker Jimmy 🙂🙂🙂👍
@osvathtihamer
@osvathtihamer Жыл бұрын
confrats,verry interesting video,it would be nice if we could download the raw files.(not all but some of them.. ).Keep up the good work.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you :) will consider to share some RAWs in future episodes.
@osvathtihamer
@osvathtihamer Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife, That would be awesome.
@Owen-gc8yc
@Owen-gc8yc Жыл бұрын
great thing as mike lane says you get equal amount of keepers if you use 50fps on the om-1 i take my om-1 on long walks just in case I see something its so versatile especially with say the 300mmf4 or a 100-400 ,I have stumbled on so many good shots this way I cant see myself doing it with something as big as the A-1 set up ...so obtrusive ,especially on my wallet!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Maybe yes .. but remeber you then have ALOT of photos and filled memory cards in no time if you have to shoot 50fps 😱📷
@Owen-gc8yc
@Owen-gc8yc Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife but they are only 20mp
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
@@Owen-gc8yc true, they dont take up as much space as 50MP 😀 i just never shoot super long bursts but i guess i will have to get used to that 😂
@theflyingdutchman7127
@theflyingdutchman7127 Жыл бұрын
hi Dennis the differences between the OM system and the Sony system are very small in favor of the sony. the om system does very well, especially if you put it away against the 50 megapixxels of the sony a1. on the other hand, the very last video of Espen helland about his musk oxen in dovrjell is very bad. I look forward to the comparison with the sony 200-600mm lens and the A1 against the olympus OM-1 with the 150-400. thanks for this informative video
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I wiil say i differs in AF and precision performance, especially when shooting BIF and action. But OM system is still very good! but Sony is in a league of its own in this aspect righr now 😁 Thanks dor the comment 🙏🏻
@theflyingdutchman7127
@theflyingdutchman7127 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife the image quality differences are not very big. the sony is slightly better, but the differences are very small, and that is a compliment to the OM-1 150-400 combination👍❤
@user-un5vs4xq5v
@user-un5vs4xq5v Жыл бұрын
How interesting your comparison is considering the OM-setup is roughly half the weight and half the prize of the Sony-setup but photos turn out much better than half as good. I really like your unagitated content, thank you for your nice work.
@ghas4151
@ghas4151 Жыл бұрын
Half the weight and price because the images are not equivalent. An f4 lens on M43 system gives equivalent results to a f8 lens on full frame. On a full frame camera you will be able to use faster shutter speeds due to the fact that you are able to bump up the ISO without sacrificing noise as you would M43. There isn’t a free meal here. You can’t break the laws of physics.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you Andreas 😁 and yes it is good for sure considering how small both sensor and lenses are!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Full frame have better performance and never though othervise i just wanted a small and light weight set that has great performance .. and that you get in the OM-1 + 150-400 f/4.5 but no doubt the A1+GM600mm combo is in another league 📷👍🏻😁
@user-un5vs4xq5v
@user-un5vs4xq5v Жыл бұрын
@@ghas4151 In terms of field of view you are perfectly right - but in f/8 sensor size is no matter and you get twice the depth of field at the same ISO. And I cannot see photos twice as good from the Sony-setup.
@user-un5vs4xq5v
@user-un5vs4xq5v Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife I am glad to see that people appreciate each system for what it is and what it can do for us as users as I do and without any doubt the Sony is superior but hiking with this setup is not a pleasure.
@dodutils
@dodutils 3 ай бұрын
I do have one question why use TC x1.25 on the OM-1 ? if you have a 400mm on 4/3 this is a crop factor about 2 so approx 800mm equiv full frame isn't it ? or is the 400mm already the 35mm equiv value ?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 3 ай бұрын
You are right, its 800mm (35mm) and the TC 1.25 is built in the lens so its easy to flip and use so you end up at 1000mm 🙂 and its still super sharp 👍🏻
@MotoRich900
@MotoRich900 Жыл бұрын
Is shallower depth of field really worth almost double (or more) vs lighter better sealed IP rated gear vs the Sony?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Good question :) I should mention the faster more precise AF, much more MP, better lowligth. I do see pro´s who really need to trust the AF for the ONE crusial shoot ... i would grab the Sony in that situation but hope that OM system can tweek some more out of the OM-1s AF :)
@godsinbox
@godsinbox 10 ай бұрын
Does the 150-400 open up better backpack storage for your gear? if so, what do you use?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely! I had the Sony GM600mm so this gear i tiny 😁 i have a mid sized backpack with more than enough room for my gear
@85mattia
@85mattia 8 ай бұрын
It would be possibile to see the two files ( photos ) a 280meters ? Possibly via WeTransfer Thank you very much
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 8 ай бұрын
I dont have the files or A1 anymore 🙃
@edwardebel1847
@edwardebel1847 Жыл бұрын
At 4:20 I'm guessing you meant 1.391 kg instead of g....otherwise not much of a weight difference! Cheers for this comparison!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ed :)
@ponymoore6140
@ponymoore6140 10 ай бұрын
For a more accurate comparision, you should have set your Sony to f6.3, which is what the Oly is using in effect when it is set at f4.5. You can see the difference in the backgrounds, so not a fair test.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for you comment 🙂
@ridealongwithrandy
@ridealongwithrandy 7 ай бұрын
It's so hard to tell them apart, just down to personal preferences ...
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 7 ай бұрын
IRL and when working with the files you can ofcource see the difference but i will say the OM-1 is really good for sure !
@ivorottleyphotography4024
@ivorottleyphotography4024 6 ай бұрын
Its just the background blurs that really show the difference here on youtube..... If you want really lovely pictures of birds either are fine, but when it comes to creating something more artistic, the Sony just gives you more choices.... The picture of the swan at 2.58 is the perfect example.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 6 ай бұрын
Agree with you and no daubt Sony is much better 👍🏻 but the MFT system delivers amazing photos and i love to use it 🙃
@naturedo2
@naturedo2 Жыл бұрын
For your test, I went on background blur only. I got 2 out of 4 correct. I'm no expert though, and it was numbers 1 and 3 I got wrong.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback :) in some situations i can be hard to tell them apart but if you sit with the original files the difference is more obvious
@evenhandedcommentor6102
@evenhandedcommentor6102 Жыл бұрын
One key point about depth of field (DOF), for those who don't know. The shorter the focal length of the lens, the greater the depth of field for any given aperture. Compare a 300mm lens to a 600mm lens and the 300mm at f/4 will have the same depth of field of a 600mm lens at f/8. So, of course the Sony setup will have much less DOF at 600mm and f/4 than the shorter, slightly slower OM system setup shooting at 400mm and f/4.5. Now, if you want more DOF, then the OM system is preferable. If want subject isolation, than the Sony full frame system has it.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment and input 😁 it is appreciated 🙏🏻
@markusbolliger1527
@markusbolliger1527 10 ай бұрын
Apart from the "better" background seperation of the Sony I can't see any advantages of the full frame camera and lens! Concerning resolution, colour and contrast they are practically equal. With regard to the end-products (prints in books and magazines for example) there are more arguments for the compact and lighter mFT- system than for full frame. I just make the move from a Nikon Z full frame system to the OM-1 and I do not look back.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 10 ай бұрын
I do miss the crazy good AF on the A1 and its easier to photograph BIF with more MP and "loose" in the frame and then crop in after .. BUT i still love the size, weight and price tags on this MFT system for sure! it really grows on me and love shooting with it 😀
@kynio3433
@kynio3433 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. To be honest if you get the same background separation on Olympus f4.5 as on Sony f7 it is hard to find a reason to buy an Olympus instead of Sony 200-600. I get that Olympus is probably better quality and also has TC, but come on, it is 4 times more expensive. If you find good offer, you can buy used A1 and 200-600 for the price of Olympus. However I find Olympus 300f4 to be reasonably priced, but don't want fixed focal lenght. Used to have Olympus 100-400F6.3 and it is not really a good lens, too big for what it is and too dark for M43 standards.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 4 ай бұрын
Compared to the Sony 200-600 i would take the Olympus lens any day for photos but of course the Sony FF cameras looks better than MFT .. BUT the combo OM-1 and Olympus 150-400 are fantastic for handheld photographing because is so small and light :)
@stehlealexander
@stehlealexander Жыл бұрын
it isa good idea 200-600 vs om-system :-) I like your video. what is your conclusion? (I think the om s is more versatile)
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I will do an episode with the 200-600 when i have the time :) my conclusion are i LOVE the OM set and i am gonna keep both sets for now. Love the portability and also the IQ are really good!
@stehlealexander
@stehlealexander Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife Thanks 🙂
@reinhardbecker284
@reinhardbecker284 Жыл бұрын
I think the comparison between the 200-600 and the 150-400 will be more on a same level. Both in terms of weight and prize… The 4/600 (from every brand) will ever be king, if you can afford it. But with some work afterwards on the computer, the results will come nearer and nearer, for significantly less money… It is like looking at cars: a Porsche or Ferrari will ever stay, but other cars can also produce a lot of fun and can be really fast.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Agree with you Reinhard but still think it was interesting to to do this one :)
@reinhardbecker284
@reinhardbecker284 Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife you were right to do it, to test the maximum of both systems. Big thanks for that. In this scenario the comparison to the Olympus 4/300IS also would make sense, because then the size and prize would be even more different. I expect still visibly better results from the Sony combination, but how many people can afford it and how big will be he difference for that price?
@Swaggerlot
@Swaggerlot 7 ай бұрын
Both take great photos and only a pedant would worry about it. At the end of the day its comes down to personal preference.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 7 ай бұрын
agree 👍🏻📷😀
@Jwitherow1964
@Jwitherow1964 4 ай бұрын
I guessed 3 and 4 were the om symptoms, I shot both too
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 4 ай бұрын
😀😀😀 both great systems
@TheJoshbinx
@TheJoshbinx Жыл бұрын
Do you have a drop-in filter for the 600?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
No i dont 😁
@TheJoshbinx
@TheJoshbinx Жыл бұрын
@@DennisJacobsenWildlife Sorry for the question again, do you need a drop down filter? Have you ever used this lens with one? would I need one for bird photography ? Ive just ordered one of this lenses and am curious ,thanks again
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
@@TheJoshbinx depends 😁 du you need slow shutterspeeds in bright light then yes, you will need ND filters and so on. I usually just film with higher shutterspeeds and aperture. But if you want cinematic footage and shoot under "180" rule you need ND filters
@torkelstenqvist1279
@torkelstenqvist1279 Жыл бұрын
I take a lot of insect photos with my Oly 300+MC14, the closest focusing distance is 1.4 m. How close can you get with the Sony system?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
4.5m on the GM600mm .. so not a macro lens .. haha :)
@torkelstenqvist1279
@torkelstenqvist1279 Жыл бұрын
@Dennis Jacobsen Try it with the BWL (big white lens). Apparently closest focusing distance is 1.3 m, which will give you good 'fake' macro.
@marutialtolxi
@marutialtolxi Жыл бұрын
Would like comparison in distant for small birds
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I tried to make so many situations i could 😀thanks for your comment
@johndoe-nh9sh
@johndoe-nh9sh Жыл бұрын
Not a lot in it all round. For autofocus all the big manufacturers are pretty much in the same place - OM certainly innovated with the pre-capture. If I could live without the background separation and resolution of my current system (incl. 600mm F4) I'd likely end up with OM.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
No mostly compared to the subjects i usually shoot :) but did photograph some deers not long ago and its looked great and animal AF worked great to. Same thoughts here! i can live with the DOF is not as good as my GM600 but i have to try out the OM-1 AF some more .. i wish it was more consistent so i didn't have to shoot "enough" frames to make sure i got some tack sharp photos! Dont know if its a firmware thing or its just limitations in the smaller sensor :/
@david_allen1
@david_allen1 Жыл бұрын
If you are new to the OM-1, you might find Thomas Eisl video useful in understanding how the AF system in the OM-1 works. It is more complex than I knew, and Thomas is very thorough. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9Vpq6Ryz7XKlnU.html
@johndoe-nh9sh
@johndoe-nh9sh Жыл бұрын
​@@DennisJacobsenWildlife Years ago Canon made a prototype 600 F4 using diffractive optics so smaller and lighter than what we're used to. If only, Sony... That's where the OM scores really big for me, in size and weight.
@stevenbirds2920
@stevenbirds2920 Жыл бұрын
The Sony equipment used in the comparison here in Uk is £18000.00. The OM-System kit is £8500.00. The Sony lens is a prime. Primes are easier to design and generally produce better quality images. The OM lens is a zoom , which in its base configuration already a third more reach and infinite framing possibilities compared to the fixed angle of view of the prime. There are no full frame lenses which are comparable with it. If you really wanted to match the lenses you could save a further £4,000.00 and just use the fabulous 300mm f4 Pro lens from OM Systems. It too accepts the 1.4 and 2.0 converters but I would recommend the 1.4 giving a FF equivalent of 840mm. This combination fits into a Billingham Hadley Pro shoulder bag. It is extremely light for its reach and you can carry around all day. Total cost in the Uk for the OM-1 / 300mm f4 pro / 1.4 tx and is £4797.00. Run the high iso images through Topaz or DXO and use the £13,000.00 you save on travelling to exotic locations to take photographs of birds you cannot see in your own patch.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input to the episode 👍🙂 anywhere we can see your photos and what do you shoot with yourself? its interesting to see what others use and what results they produce with it.
@richardfink7666
@richardfink7666 Жыл бұрын
Hit the nail on the head! And with 15000Euro you can travel for a long time.
@gerhardwiesinger
@gerhardwiesinger Жыл бұрын
F4.5 on MFT has equivalent depth of field at equivalent focal length/distance at F9 on full frame (also times x2 of the crop factor). Incoming light is still F4.5 on MFT.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
For what i could see the equivalent its more around f/7.1 but thats of cource with 400mm (800mm equivalent) on OM vs 600mm on the Sony so i guess on equal focal lenght the f/9 is the equivalent :)
@ChristoMonte
@ChristoMonte Жыл бұрын
Please allow me a comment for the part from 4:40 to 5:30: Any "full frame" camera separates the subject better than any "crop" camera for a specific angle of view because crops have to shoot wider. If you would shoot both let's say 400mm at f4 you would have the exact same separation (same depth of field) but a wider frame in ff that you should crop down to have the same result as in m4/3. So I find it to be somehow weird to compare depth of field between different systems in the way you did in this video. Other than that, I found the video very interesting.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you Christo for sharing your thoughs on my comparision. I really appreciate you and others take the time to contribute like this 🙂
@mattmavor9154
@mattmavor9154 Жыл бұрын
Your comparison video was interesting. Both systems take excellent photos under both great and difficult conditions and you did an excellent job of capturing the images. However, I believe that you used an incorrect OM System lens for comparison. If you had used the prime Zuiko Digital ED 300 mm f4 Pro lens (equvalent field of view on the OM-1 micro 4/3 body of a 600 mm lens), you would have been comparing systems of equal focal length and aperture. I believe that you would have found the image quality even more similar. In addition, the systems differ substantially in cost and size. The length of the Sony lens is 45 cm (without the lens hood?), the length of the 300 mm Zuiko lens is 23 cm without the lens hood extended, a difference by a factor of roughly 2. The weight of the camera and lens system for the Sony is 3.8 kg, almost 2 times the weight of the OM System, 2.1 kg. Concerning cost, the Sony system cost is on the order of $17,500 while the OM system is on the order of $5,000, a difference of a factor of 3.5 times. One may argue that the Sony system is better as the A-1 uses a full frame sensor of 50 Mpx that has 4 times the surface area of the 20 Mpx micro 4/3 sensor. Both sensors perform well in low light situations. Therefore, in my opinion, the only advantage of the larger sensor is that the 50 Mpx image can be cropped to a greater extent than the 20 Mpx image while retaining a higher pixel count. Given the excellent quality of image enlargement software on the market today, this is not much of an advantage. I am an engineer and an engineer would never justify the 3 times greater cost and 2 times greater length and weight of the Sony system for a possible minor gain in image quality over that of the OM System.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input Matt :) If compared at the same focal length the Sony gear would stand out even more. The reason i think the OM gear are interesting and why i got it are the reach right out of the box and with build in TC :) to weigh out the sensor difference .. head to head with the same focal length the Sony will be even more superior. But like you write, the price, weight and performance really make this OM gear interesting for many photographer, especially bird and wildlife photografers who wants to shoot handheld be mobile all day
@ridealongwithrandy
@ridealongwithrandy 7 ай бұрын
I picked 1 and 4 for Oly ... DOH!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife 7 ай бұрын
😀
@andymok7945
@andymok7945 Жыл бұрын
To be more fair. Should have compared the 150-400mm to the Sony 200-600mm as they would both be zoom lenses. I have used mostly Canon in the past, but switched to micro 4/3 and do not regret it. Sony cameras are rather quite pricey and could not believe for the money that you pay the LCD can't swivel. That fact that I can walk around all day with the micro 4/3 and hand hold is a big bonus. I would love to have the 150-400mm lens with built-in 1.25 TC lens. Having the much better min focus distance is another great feature.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
There will be a comparison soon with the 200-600 :) thank you for the comment
@emanuelbief7088
@emanuelbief7088 Жыл бұрын
To get the same bokeh with the olympus you need to be closer?
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment 👍🏻🙂
@vimbro1
@vimbro1 Жыл бұрын
I got all images wrong. It must mean that OM is performing very good.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
In the right conditions and angles it can be hard to see 😁 especial like here where the video get some compression .. but yes it shoots beautiful photos for sure!
@neer844
@neer844 Жыл бұрын
I liked 🎉
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@ImagesWithPassion
@ImagesWithPassion Жыл бұрын
After one minute it Was clear you missed what the point of OM1+150400 is. No tripod needed!
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
I did both in this episode Arthur just to cover both "bases" :) and for longer video work you need the tripod!
@greysuit17
@greysuit17 Жыл бұрын
I think you missed the point of the video.
@ASMROW
@ASMROW Жыл бұрын
OM1 was like shooting with a mobile phone
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
@@ASMROW thank you for sharing your opinion 🙂
@axizcorp
@axizcorp Жыл бұрын
You probably have four hands.
@johnmoffvideos
@johnmoffvideos Жыл бұрын
great video, thank you (annoying/loud music sometimes, sorry)
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks John :) i will give it a nuch down in the next videos :)
@NicholasNoeckerJr
@NicholasNoeckerJr Жыл бұрын
Not exactly right to compare a zoom with a prime, but it was still an enjoyable video.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nicholas :) i compared the best bird/wildlife gear both worlds (full frame and 3/4) has to offer right now in my opinion.
@sosomelodies659
@sosomelodies659 Жыл бұрын
The A1 with 600mm would be nice but the OM-1 with 150-400mm is much more affordable. Both kits are better than my photography skills.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Yes it is expensive gear for sure! and takes some time to "master" all the functions and setting on cameras like this :)
@te0pol159
@te0pol159 Жыл бұрын
All of the Sony bodies I've tried, they've always lacked the fun-factor Olympus/OM System has always had, which is a deal-breaker for me, since this is just a hobby and I do this for fun. I would only choose Sony if I would make a living out of this. And after all, the gear you use doesn't really matter in the end.
@DennisJacobsenWildlife
@DennisJacobsenWildlife Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing :)
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