Both are beautiful watches, something for everyone.

Imagine the 2500 had the 8900 movement inside. That would make it the perfect piece.

@@chulkcha But then it would be as chunky as the 8900 😟

Stephen Rudberg me too! Actually,i wear po 2500 now😂🤨🤣

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I own a 2201.50 original and also used to own the 8900 model. I sold the 8900. It's too thick for its diameter, and the shiny dial is not for me (prefer the dial to disappear).

@@pauldoherty435 I have a 2200.51.00 and a new 8900. Both great watches and keepers.

The 8900 is a way better looking watch.

Many thanks fir this comment. I'm trying to decide between a 2500 and 8900 at the moment - you just swung it for me 😁👍

Agree. It is a more "from the ground up" modern and masculine design. The Sub is trying to keep a 1960's design updated for the modern era and it shows.

I agree also, better looking,better built and a less pretentious brand

It is

indeed!

Movement has always been superior too!

You're very welcome!

Thanks

i agree

Ditto. I love my Reference 2201.51

Agree. I don't own it, but remember checking it out at the store when it was out. Thats a honest dive watch with high end finishing.

Good choice!

Totally agree with your view!

same here! i actually went to the AD to pick up 300. They had a PO 39.5 in stock, so i decided to try it on. The watch instantly felt like it belonged to a higher segment. Bezel movement, bracelet, lume and overal giving the feeling of a tank like watch. Yes the 300m is thinner, but i really dont like the classic metal bracelet it comes with and although sitting bit thinner, the 42mm still felt chunky. So at the end, i walked out with the PO and i really love it! May i ask what deal you ended up getting for yours?

@@Island606 I got 20% off. I agree with you!

@@sidneyt1016 sounds like a great deal!

@@Island606 and a bottle of bourbon

@@sidneyt1016 even better! Ive got about 17.5% off myself for the 39.5mm with 8800 movement.

Totally agree with you David I have the same model as you had mine since 2011 a 50th birthday present from my wife . Still love it and still looks great . Future classic..

My pleasure!

Glad it was helpful!

Glad you took something from the video. Thanks for the comment.

I feel the same

My watch starts with 809 ..... serial number, so I can not exactly see if there is a C or D series of 2500 in it ??? At the authorized service they told me that the serial number of my watch should be from 2007 and with the D series of the mechanism, but the servicer was not exactly 100% sure, so I really would like to find out.

My watch starts with 809 ..... serial number, so I can not exactly see if there is a C or D series of 2500 in it ??? At the authorized service they told me that the serial number of my watch should be from 2007 and with the D series of the mechanism, but the servicer was not exactly 100% sure, so I really would like to find out.

My watch starts with 809 ..... serial number, so I can not exactly see if there is a C or D series of 2500 in it ??? At the authorized service they told me that the serial number of my watch should be from 2007 and with the D series of the mechanism, but the servicer was not exactly 100% sure, so I really would like to find out.

aca faca starting with 8525xxxx is a 2500D (2011).

How do I know whether it is 2500C or 2500D?😢

@@terencetan7798 2012 and it has the new numbers on the calendar date.

Glad you enjoyed it

I tried both, and I chose the 2500. It’s so much better on the wrist.

If you have your heart set on the no-date sub i advise you to wait for that one. If the 8900 is your second choice i wouldn't bother with it unless you plan on owning both one day. The 8900 may satisfy you in the short term but because its not your number one choice you'll never be completely satisfied. Good luck on your decision.

I 1000% agree with this dude. Wait or save longer for a new Grey market sub. Get the one you want and you’ll save more money in the long run. Take it from a guy who spent thousands on watches that didn’t satisfy and don’t play the AD game unless you have connections

Hi bud I have the 8500 movement fits terrible did u have to change end links scews pins etc r is it just a case of changing the clasp ?? I'm grant from Durham England

@@Granto-ni9qw Hi, Grant...The AD did the swap. I'm not wearing the watch at the moment, but I think there are some regular links at either end of the clasp that need to be switched to screw links. Pretty certain of that.

@@JJL206 hi jef I'm totally pissed off with omega the clasp is shocking I think the one I need is the number ending in1159 what is the one on the new model with I just got the new one now a £50 pounds timex has a better fit big f up with omega on this model may go back to Rolex now ??

@@Granto-ni9qw I have no idea on the correct part #. Your AD will know.

@@JJL206 it's 1159 this planet Ocean f sucks bud I'm grant from Durham England

Was it not the 8500 model?

@@granto6738 not sure, but he definitely wore a 2500 in casino Royale.

@@alfrede.neuman9082 I have a 8500po 42 not happy with it hat 🧢 to buy micro adjustable clasp £2,30 it's very top heavy, thinkin of a Aqura terra part x it

Correct. 2500 for Quantum of Solace. 8500 for Skyfall.

Does the thickness cause an issue

@@willielarsson9651 I’ve never had any problem with it.

Thanks, i found the expression 'Lug to lug' to be ambiguous and the term 'Overall length' to be more accurate. You are right its the case diameter that is being measured.

You've had two years' time. Did you get it yet?

It wears fine. I own 8900. It is a little tall but adds to robust macho feeling of the watch. I have average wrists just under 7 inches and It wears nicely. Theyre hefty but you can get used to it. Now I sleep with them.

I agree, but I’d say that the 8900 doesn’t justify the thickness on the wrist. I went with a 2500 after trying on a 8900, and I don’t regret it. But I still look at the glorious caseback on the 8900 in awe.

@@alfrede.neuman9082 you just have to get used to it but I never tried the 2500.

@@jakubhladil5340 they’re both stunning watches, for sure. I have fairly slim wrists, so maybe I noticed it more. The 2500 PO is somewhere between the classic Bond SMP and the 8900 PO. It’s probably better to think of it as a beefed up SMP 300m, which it kinda is. It still won’t fit under a shirt cuff anywhere near as well as my SMP 300m does, but it’s probably my favourite watch in my collection. Plus the orange is very striking.

@@alfrede.neuman9082 i have the black on black with orange details. Love It so far. Yes it is heavy but I got used to it. Scratched them yesterday with bracelet and even though its barely visible under the right conditions I am still pissed. It is only a matter of time until you get that little scratch that you know you caused🤣

I don't know why Omega didn't bring the orange arabics to the latest version. Mistake.

rjy8960 they still do that version.

The 2500 is single sided AR coating...not double

Nicool333 it's double sided. For some reason the page for this watch on the Omega website isn't working but here is an old review from a trusted resource. www.chronomaddox.com/omega/articles/downtown_mike/PO_vs_SeMP/review.htm#Crystal

@@rjy8960 Orance is not an availalble colour in ceramic ( - note they use plastic/rubber on the ones with orange on the bezel)

TheElectricCentaur thank you for pointing that out!

not _after_ midnight, a few h earlier, typically from 8pm, until it switches and disengages, which it should do pretty much exactly midnight

Wow, how did that happen? How did your watch get magnetized, and how did you realize it happened?

Yes it is

That's basically it. I agree

Some people will say every 5 years, others will say service when you have a problem.

Ran mine ten years and wore it every day

I'd like to see one too 😊

Yes there is AR coating on both sides. The 8900 has a glossier dial, kind of mirror like that reflects a lot, much more than the 2500.

No the bezel inserts are not swappable, they are different sizes. Also not sure where you'd get the bezel insert from, these parts are probably near impossible to get. Also agree the 2500 is more classy for sure.

@@DavidPhamChannel I see, thanks for the input. I'm just curious, someone like you who has both could probably swap the inserts around if you wanted - I know I would, just coz I like the design of the 2500, but prefer the hardy ceramic bezel insert of the 8900. Have a nice day

@@dragonniz Look into the PO LM LE if you want to ceramic on the 2500.

Completely agree! It's a shame as I love the look of 8500 but it's just too thick, thickness of 2500 is perfect. Also you're right about bit bring avke to see the applied indices on the 8900 at certain angles, annoys the hell out of me!

The 2500-based 2201.50 original already has a depth rating of 600M/2000ft so it's entirely possible to have great depth rating and be thin (which you can clearly see how much thinner the original is to the 8900 in this video).

Oui exacte, le dateur est une bévue, pas digne d'Omega.

You’d never have to flip it 30 days - I believe that the hour/date set also works *backwards*, so you’d only have to go back 1 day in that scenario. At most, if your watch sat that long, you’d have to go one direction 15-16 days. The positives: easier to adjust for Daylight Savings Time, and when you travel across time zones, as mentioned in the video.

@@ayjaymay I bought a Speedmaster Racing 44 Co-ax, cal 9900, back in 2019. I rotate my watches, they can sit in the box easily up to two weeks. Having to set the date without a quick set was a real PITA, up to 15 days at times onwards or backwards, that's up to 360 movements with the hour hand, just to set the date. Totally unacceptable. The quick hour set is useless unless you travel between time zones. Why would they prioritise a mostly useless feature over a useful one to most people like the date quickset? These are not GMT watches. I dont get it. I quit setting the date in my Speedy and sold it after 2 years. Will never buy another Omega with this feature.

For the 2500, i m changing the date @ 11:48 AM, which is fine. The Red zone between 8PM and 4AM. The 8900 has no red zone.

David Pham AM and PM? Don’t you not want to do that whether or not it’s am/pm? Pardon me, I’m very new to this... and last question: there is no red zone in the 8900?!

You DO NOT want to change the date when the watch transitions between PM to AM, so 8PM to 4AM. Transitioning from AM to PM is fine 8AM to 4PM. And yes the cal. 8900 can transition at any time.

Thanks for the kind words, I do have both and think they are both great. The 2500 wears better and is more versatile, i believe most PO owners prefer the 2500 and with vintage watches being popular lots of people want pre-ceramic understated models. I'm a fan of modern watches so obviously I was drawn to the 8900, the new movement, materials and design made the decision easy. The enhancements in time keeping are great and all but it also depends on the watch, most 8900s owners report accuracy between 0-2 s/d but i have read of some performing +4s/d, so it all comes down to luck. Your current 2500 could theoretically keep better time than many of the newer models. I'm assuming you've been looking at the sub as well, though many people compare them i think they are very different. The sub thrives on tradition, great looking watch and reliable movement. The PO 8800/8900 on the other hand are basically the opposite, modern look with the newest innovation, it really comes down to what you prefer. The 8900 is a hefty sports watch and is much thicker than the sub and 2500. If you want a hefty sports watch the 8900 would fit that bill. If case thickness and diameter are a big deal to you look at the 39.5mm version (Cal. 8800), its basically the same watch/movement but much thinner, its even thinner than your PO 2500 and wears the best of all the POs. I wanted one myself but felt it was smaller than I willing to go (the bezel diameter measuring 38mm). Whether you choose to stick with your current PO, go with the 8800/8900 or go with the sub you cant go wrong, they are all great watches, go with the one you think looks the best, most of the technical specs you won't even notice. Hope that was helpful, good luck!

Superb. Great info and your analysis is spot on; I have looked at the latest Sub, older Sea Dwellers, the new SD, the new Sky Dweller and the Datejust 41. Every time, I come back to my PO and think it looks great and is so comfortable to wear. The bracelet and clasp are more comfortable than all the others. The 8900 you have is now of interest and I will check it out. Anyway, I got PO in 2010, but can’t figure out which 2500 it is (C,D, for example) - the first four digits are 8481XXXX - any ideas? Thank you very much! p.s. going to get a service which should give it a new lease of life.

I believe you have the 2500C version, Serial numbers 8525XXXX and higher have the D version. You can also tell by the date, the 2500D versions have a different date wheel. The most obvious difference are the ones. This pictures shows what I'm referring to. s18.postimg.org/rb3cv0yex/2500_C_vs_2500_D.jpg

David Pham Sweet. C is a solid performer? Thanks again 👍

The movement on the 38mm is different. You cannot jump the hour hand forward on its own.

The AR coating isn't the most durable, mine has a few scratches, its only noticeable if you look for it.

I believe the 8900 has double AR coating.

@@DavidPhamChannel yes, my point was; it needs it, while the 2500 doesn't

I know this is an older post and question but I own this exact model 2500 in 42mm and mine is a C from 2010, the Planet Ocean originally started with the C version and the one Craig wore in QOS was a C version as well.

@@Daavi85 I own that same watch 2201.50 the 42mm and it is the C version. I bought it back in 2012! It is a great watch and I think that in a couple of decades it would surely be a classic watch for someone to possess!

I think the 8900 fits my circular wrist better because of the shorter length and female end links. Also love the ceramic dial.