Thanks a lot Bernard!

aluminium is also prone to metal fatigue that literally splits

@@TheBelrickso you don’t recommend aluminium?

@@TheBelrick Well a point for Aluminium is that it builds its own passive layer. So even if it is scratched or damaged it won't corrode away. In Addition to its lightness it combines the hardness of an artificially induced Elox-layer on top with a relatively soft base material which bends before it actually breaks. Like with a Sword like the katana you combine a hard top layer with a soft core to get a material that withstands all kinds of conditions. So you basically get a highly shock resistant, self passivating/ corrosion resistant, heat/cold resistant yet lightwaight material that is only surpassed by way more expensive (in both pure material price as well as processing cost) materials like titanium.

@@TheCyberloki Hulls flex. Aluminium upon flexing creates micro fissures around ANY rough hole or join. This is what brought down the first jetliners and why they stopped riveting aluminium. Also it is the primary destroyer of the USN LCS program Ships rated for 41 knots limited to 26 knots and in calm conditions only. Because of the hulls of the independence class The freedom class tried to solve this issue by using steel but dissimilar metals has its own serious issues killing that design too. Care must be take with aluminium hulls and for our size ships, fibre glass is just better IMHO

Thanks a lot!

SergeyForeman Thanks m8! Now I just need to improve my Russian a bit.

@@ranger394 Untertitel auf Russisch klicken, danach den selben weg über das Zahnrad, aber dann auf automatisch übersetzen - liest sich teilweise komisch aber die wesentlichen Infobrocken kommen an - Viel Glück

Good point, so far that part of the Cat has been missing.

неее, покупая лотерею, ты яхту не купишь- лотерею надо продавать )))

CapDave720 mmmm... you’re agreeing and disagreeing in the same sentence. That makes no sense: “And I’m sorry .... is not even wrong.” If it is not wrong then it must be right that aluminium allows more beam.

Don't forget that Garcia and Outremer have the same parent company. I would be curious to see how the hull shape and dimensions compare to the Outremer 51 TBH.

Of course it's not an objective review, this is the channel of garcia yachts. They are proudly showing off their new addition, that's what this is.

I can’t see why an aluminium built cat would allow for a greater beam....!?

Very different purposes and wildly different tolerancse. CTS-v vs Veyron.

Agreed but, it isn't a new concept OR unique - Elcie has been out there for YEARS!

Rekt More nothing new there!?

The helm system that will be installed on Explocat units #2 and following will be using a pendular steering station, that will allow to steer either in a low position, sheltered from the hard bimini covering the cockpit, or high up for maneuvering and sailing in good weather conditions. This will be very different to the helm system you see on this video, which was shooted aboard Explocat #1 and corresponds to her customer's choice. Plus the saloon steering station of course, available on all models and permitting to pilot the cat from inside!

it's probably some kind of 5000-series which is typical for aluminum hulls with maybe some 6000 for interior high strength parts.

No, this model is not on production anymore.

OnTheWay the “few extra square feet” is actually about a doubling of square feet - even more if you include the covered cockpit. I’ve grown tired of long trips heeled over, I find the motion of a cat in seas to be preferable over compatible monohulls, so am making the transition.

New Pelagic is being built in Friesland by KM yachting right now.

@Captain Hofuk, it all depends on what kind of sailing you do and where. If you like island hopping in the Caribbean with an occasional Atlantic crossing to go play in the Med’ and the Aegean, or island hoping around the archipelagos in the Pacific always staying in the warm waters of the tropical and subtropical seas, then a comfy large catamaran is what you want one hundred percent, but if you want to sail around Cape Horn or the Northern Passage and into the arctic, buddy, stick with monohuls like the Garcia Exploration, Alutab, Boreal, basically alloy monohulls designed for the savage conditions of the high latitudes ! I don’t think that you’ll want to be caught with a catamaran in a sea full of floating ice. Can you imagine having your cat straddling a huge chunk of floating ice wedged between the hulls ? And for the warm water cruising you don’t need an aluminium alloy boat to have to worry about galvanic corrosion of the entire hull structure. So, stick with GRP composite hulls for the warm waters and make sure that you’ve got enough zincs to protect your prop, prop shaft and rudder shafts from galvanic corrosion. The latest technologies and materials used in GRP and carbon fibre and kevlar reinforced composite hull construction greatly eliminated the problem with the classic delamination and osmosis blisters found in the older fiberglass hulls. (Don’t compare today’s GRP boats with a “Formosa” from the 60’s and 70’s!) With proper periodic maintenance the GRP composite hulls could last “forever” . There are plenty of advantages and disadvantages with every design and every material used in watercraft construction. You only need to know what fits the best with your particular needs. Anyway, if I could get a 60+ feet well designed catamaran that has a high enough bridgedeck so it won’t sound and feel like a bomb goes off every time the waves hit the underside for the same amount of money I get a comparable size monohull, then I’ll definitely go for the cat because I’m getting too old to put up with the heeling myself and I don’t care anymore for the cold high latitudes. The 68’ super fast carbon fibre cat I really like is north of 7 mill US $ and that’s grossly out of my budget.

OnTheWay I want my cake and be able to eat it too. :) I’ve primarily been a monohull sailor for the past 30 years, but am now looking for a retirement boat to sail the world. The limited ocean sailing I’ve done in cats (45-55ft) has left me with the impression that I am willing to tolerate the negatives of a cat in return for the positives. I would love to explore the extreme latitudes, but am willing to do that by ship. I doubt I will ever go outside the 60 to 60 range (except maybe to cross Cape Horn) in whatever boat I end up with. So being iced in is not likely to be a problem for me. Look at it another way, I expect the ocean crossings to be 5% or less of the time on the boat, the other 95% of the time will be living and exploring on the boat at locations around the world between the 60’s. The Cat is more attractive to me for those periods. Aluminum is attractive to me for other reasons (as are the water-tight bulkheads and crash boxes). Probably overkill for my needs, but I’m willing to deal with the added expense and maintenance of aluminum in return for that peace of mind.

Willem Haifetz-Chen “New Pelagic” is a 77ft monohull being built as a training exploration vessel. It’s not really in the same class (and probably cost 3 times the Garcia). Although it is certainly a cool boat.

Complete Garcia Explocat 52 visit to come soon!

there's an option to have the helm similar to what Balance catamarans have.

precisely.... or apparent. It probably isnt great without dagger or centerboards

@@carryonsailing it was sailing 12 knots with 22 knots of wind (upwind) did you not watch the video?

@@vorjay the angle to true wind / apparent is where my curiosity arose. I don't believe that depth of information was made evident from the contents of this video,which I watched in full. Perhaps any sales or marketing team will deliver that to the audience in the future....

Thanks! For those knowing to weld aluminium, yes!

by uber-rich you seem to mean Upper to middle-class with savings.

Hi, thanks! Web page for Garcia Explocat 52: bit.ly/Garcia-Explocat-52

Done!

@@GarciaYachts_official ohh i can now sleep in peace! hahah

Rudder Remote control from the inside, like with the Exploration 45

The helm system that will be installed on Explocat units #2 and following will be as the one you describe, very différent to the one you see here on Explocat #1. Plus inside steering station of course!

Phil V I’m talking about the videos a year ago when they showed it would have a pivoting helm, like this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntqerLeXus68oqs.html

Garcia Yachts great thanks that is how this has made it to my short list - Where can I see one in person?

@@saillaw2 you are true, i too prefer the less exposed helm version

Still not pleased 👎

Hi, thank you for your interest. What you mention was a customer's choice for Garcia Explocat 52 #1. Following units will display an external steering station equipped with a pendulum helm system. This will allow you to steer either in a low position sheltered from the cockpit, or high up for manoeuvring and sailing in good weather conditions.

@@GarciaYachts_official that is good to hear. Garcia boats are the real deal for Bluewater thus I was caught off guard with the helm position. Thank you for the clarification.

The speed mentioned by Pete Goss was noted when sailing upwind 😎

As he says, “…and there’s a lot more speed in her.”

But probably not much more, 18 tonnes is a LOT.

Try doing the math. Electric propulsion is a terrible idea. If you're green, just sail more.

@ People said solar panels would never exceed 20% efficiency ever. They did. People said only 10 years ago that electric outboards would never take off. They are. Combustion engines in boats will be a thing of the past in 15 years. I already know several long distance cruising boats with electric engines and as battery and energy storage solutions continue to improve, it will only accelerate the inevitable change.

@@ChasingContours yes, quite right. In 2011, 40% of power generation in the UK was coal, it's now less than 2%, and will be nil in a few short years. Everything is changing. People are just not aware how fast it is changing. Electric engines on a sailboat are already viable. Imagine ten years from now? Battery storeage alone could be ten fold. That is not impossible.

my guess is that no less then a million pounds.

The owner of this Explocat intends to go to Svalbard with her. When this project becomes real, we shall have nice images to share, for sure!

@@GarciaYachts_official A travel blog-like video could be made of that journey drawing lots of attention anyway

@@koborkutya7338 Owner's choice, not ours, this is a customer boat… We'll of course propose him the idea anyway. Best regards,

@@GarciaYachts_official Thanks, that was actually my idea too :)

This is just hull #1 as a request from the owner, from hull #2 the helm will be raised away from water it seems. This is indeed unfortunate.

@@bernardlanguillier7970 I saw a picture that the helm will swing up to the higher seat or down out of the weather.

@@jginmt yes, exactly.

Это хорошая мечта! Пусть наши мечты сбудутся как можно раньше.

@H. Kirk What happens when the autopilot malfunctions? One gets to sit in the open. It would be hard to put a good bimini over those helm locations, unlike a monohull.

@H. Kirk Excellent points

@H. Kirk I worked at sea in my 20s, and I remember things that were not supposed to break, always did break in the middle of nowhere. Nothing broke at the dock. I also remember that foul weather gear made me sweat so much I might as well have been in regular clothes. Now, I fish offshore in my spare time. After five to six hours in the sun I need a break. The bimini is a help, but the reflection off the water still gets me. That is why I like a covered helm. I like as much protection as I can get. Go well.

Daggerboard why not, but centreborad look difficult to install on a cat. Also, this is a part of the choices that make her a solide exploration catamaran. And she sails well upwind anyway!

@@GarciaYachts_official Prove it, show us the figures of her sailing well upwind.....

@@GarciaYachts_official MC50/55/60 Centerboard......Catamaran......

This is a specific installation on Explocat 52 #1, due to customer request. All following units from #2 will have a pendular helm system. Thanks for your interest!

Specific installation on Explocat #1. Following units will have a pendular helm system. Thanks!

This will be as you mention on coming units with pendular helm. The helm position you see here is on Explocat 52 #1 only - customers choice.

Garcia Yachts thanks for the reply! A beautiful cat, I think we’re all very excited to see the next model come out.