On Improvising / Composing Figuration Preludes: Partimenti and Exercises

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On Improvising / Composing Figuration Preludes: Partimenti and Exercises

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En blanc et noir

Ай бұрын

Video, keys and concept by Michael Koch.
Patreon link to the materials: www.patreon.com/posts/figurat...

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@TonyWinston Ай бұрын

Jazz guy here….helpful AF

@TonyWinston Ай бұрын

I mean that as a compliment

@paulrhodesquinn Ай бұрын

Does AF stand for Awesome Figuration?

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

thx buddy

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

lol

@josephalvarez5315 Ай бұрын

I love your playing tony

@maxjohn6012 Ай бұрын

How do you manage to keep making *even more helpful and interesting* videos? This was absolutely wonderful, Michael, thank you so much!

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

appreciated, John! Many thanks

@ajames283 Ай бұрын

Besides Kuhnau, "figuration prelude" comes at least also from Vivaldi/Torelli. RV 813, Andante, c. 1705-1710. It's not technically a "prelude", but it's just repeating figures in the same style as a Bach prelude. Copied by JS Bach as BWV 979, Andante.

@mensah-j Ай бұрын

These types of pieces form the bread and butter of Bach's first WTC. Although the style predates Bach (see J. C. Fischer, whose music largely inspired the WTC), his thorough exploration of the genre ties him to the figuration prelude more than any other composer of his time, I'd argue. I enjoyed your previous video on this topic and this one as well. Great video!

@ericleiter6179 28 күн бұрын

Finally, a channel where I actually learn something each time! Thanks for sharing your knowledge (and sense of humor)...nice cameo by Walter White!!!LMAO

@robertocornacchionialegre Ай бұрын

The “prinner” at the end with 9, 7 and “the cri” chords is so nice :D

@viniciusmj92 Ай бұрын

For some reason it reminds me of fairies...

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

So that is a ‚prinner‘? The prinner must be the most unspecific schema of them all😂

@robertocornacchionialegre Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir well, maybe in the next volume of “Eighteenth century music” one can find an article called “Yet another schema? The Fairy Prinner from Bach to Zelda” by @viniciusmj92 lol

@NichtWunderkind Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir they say there are more prinners than stars in the sky 😅

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

@NichtWunderkind when I check out analysis papers of american schemata-guys this the impression that I get

@viniciusmj92 Ай бұрын

Great vídeo, Michael! I remember a few weeks ago when this kind of prelude was giving us lot of trouble in our lessons. I'm glad you were able to make such a nice vídeo out of it!

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

Cheers, Vinicius! Haha, that‘s right!

@richardk1598 Ай бұрын

These videos are so helpful and incredibly insightful. Thank you

@erickramirez5483 Ай бұрын

this video is awesome, just thank you Michael !!

@martingravel1157 29 күн бұрын

Skriabin is soooo baroque… totally agree! lol… Picard meme is priceless!

@keks-qk7uv Ай бұрын

9:01 casually flipping us all off lol

@esse72564 Ай бұрын

Very informative! Glad you shared

@zlumrig Ай бұрын

Great insights in the figuration prelude. It's presented as a good starting point for modern players to get into classical improvisation but it's interesting that in the repertoire there are not that many real examples outside of Bach.

@MusicaAngela Ай бұрын

Thanks for this video with lots of stuff to work on!

@namor_onac Ай бұрын

Great Video!

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

Thanks, Román!

@lovaaaa2451 Ай бұрын

So amazing as always, though I always feel inadequate, one day I have to go through all your videos again to practice everything thoroughly. Oh by the way, where is that promised baroque Scriabin??

@donovick 28 күн бұрын

Good

@kooshaa3535 22 күн бұрын

There are more examples in the lute and theorbo world, Kapsberger's Toccata Seconda Arpeggiata (just has the chords in the tablature) for 17th century example, Zamboni's Op1., No.7 and Weiss's Sonata no.34 D minor Prelude for 18th century.

@en-blanc-et-noir 21 күн бұрын

holy moly, thanks, will check those

@bonnarubyofficial 26 күн бұрын

Do you sir have a Spotify account? I’d love to hear your compositions! Also great video I always learn new things every time I watch them thanks :)

@en-blanc-et-noir 25 күн бұрын

thanks! Lol no spotify, sir

@will.sagastume 27 күн бұрын

06:03 Cmon, you could throw in a “Based on first ‘little prelude’ of the Klavierbüchlein” there 😏

@en-blanc-et-noir 27 күн бұрын

Hey Mr., chill out, it's not that I'm tryin to hide anything! It is of course BUT that combo of the two sequential schemata is common formal pattern in italian and italian inspired trio sonatas. I conclude that the piece you mention is the only example you know that makes use of this combination and that's why you cry "stolen"... baroque music is to some degree generic so I guess claiming "dishonesty" or whatever copyright issues is inappropriate. sheesh

@DanDanDan-c2w 28 күн бұрын

absolutely epic stuff as always. i'm just confused at 10:05 how is measure 4 a v of v? Fdim is V of C? and similar confusion for me in measure 9, how are the notes E, Bb and Db the V of F? actually im confused a lot in all your videos cuz i severely lack fundamental knowledge here but this is one particular section that i was hanging on to an understanding of besides those measures lol

@en-blanc-et-noir 27 күн бұрын

Actually the main indictor for a dominant chord in ‚classical‘ tonal music of the major/minor era is the leading tone: in F Minor, chords that contain e natural are V chords because this e natural virtually prescribes the soprano clause of that key. The V as ‚dominant‘ historically emerged from the clauses. Thus a V/V chord in F Minor is a chord that contains b natural because this is the leading tone to the V. In baroque music there are no other dominant chords in use then the diminished triad (predominantly as 6th chord), dom. 7th including all inversions and the diminished 7th chord (including all its inversions) and the standard dominant triad - and maybe rare incomplete derivations from that. Everybody disagreeing with that concept didn‘t understand it properly LOL

@DanDanDan-c2w 27 күн бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir super interesting. never heard it explained that way, but it is definitely a much much more dynamic way of understanding it

@JackSparrow175 22 күн бұрын

How have you discovered the rule of the octave and schemas? Have someone told you about it? And how have you learnt that all? And how to learn it?

@en-blanc-et-noir 21 күн бұрын

lol yeah, I‘ve heard about this😂✌️

@JackSparrow175 21 күн бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir well, that isn't the answer for my questions

@OttoVonBerga Ай бұрын

Some KZfaqr wrote a book about this I bought it, don’t know his name

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

LOL

@OttoVonBerga Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir the book is called improvising fugue

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

@@OttoVonBerga and what‘s your opinion on it? Doesn‘t sound like you read it in it very often…

@OttoVonBerga Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir was that in reference to my music ?

@OttoVonBerga Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noir it’s good, it starts with figuration and partimenti I’m only that far it’s 450ish pages of exercises

@satyasunga Ай бұрын

First commentttt 🎉🎉🎉

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

Yeahyyy

@kaptnkirk2740 Ай бұрын

0:24 "Baroque Music = Bach" ... hahaha. Deswegen heißt der Stil ja auch Bach-Rock! 😎

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

der Käptn schiesst wieder den Vogel ab😂😂😂

@victormushtin Ай бұрын

“Bach chord progressions”😂😂😂

@en-blanc-et-noir Ай бұрын

the guy probably would just call me a gatekeeper😂😂✌️

@victormushtin Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noirsure

@victormushtin Ай бұрын

@@en-blanc-et-noirI hope they offer free midi files to download

@AmeeliaK 29 күн бұрын

Seriously, I still find it so much easier to memorize as chord progressions. I know that Bach did not conceptualize it like that but for my memory it's easier, I already have clear "chunks" for chord progressions in my mind and memorizing it as a figured bass would take me an eternity. I'm reading the books by Mortensen and Gjerdingen, annotating every musical example with the "forbidden" Roman Numerals 😅 I'm still looking for a convincing argument not to do so 😉

@enricocasin 29 күн бұрын

@AmeeliaK My argument would be that roman numerals do not explain the music of Bach, Beethoven, Chopin and other composers. You can stack a V to I how many times you want, you wont get a fugue or a symphony out of block chord thinking. An understanding of figured bass, rule of the octave, counterpoint, partimento, schema finally made the apparent godly talent of these composers into something understandable and trainable to some extent.