That’s what I love about this kits. Giving broken consoles new life!

@@MachoNachoProductions yup, definitely! I’ve confirmed with furrtek that the beauty of this particular kit is that you can choose whether to retain your optical drive or not which perfect for my use case.

@@MachoNachoProductions Metal slug is the only game worth mentioning that they’ve ever made and king of fighters recently lol I only took them about 20 something years to finally getting a fighters right lol and it’s still not even close to where should be

@@MachoNachoProductions Of course being able to load a bunch of trash games that you don’t have to pay for doesn’t feel nearly as bad as buying a game that’s trash and regretting it later lol that’s basically what S and K company was from the very beginning

@@MachoNachoProductions Pharaoh

despite all the legal claims in these videos I would bet both my you know what's that they are not legit roms.

I would love to get the CDZ. Definitely a very sleek looking unit.

Picked a CDZ up a few years back.. way faster loading.. not that I ever had an issue with the speed of the original back in the day :)

@@MachoNachoProductions same here!!

The CDZ has no 2x CD Drive. It has more Drive-Cache and an optimized motor, to load games faster.

I have a CDZ - doesn't make The Last Blade 2 any less painful. 😂

Thank you 🙏☺️

You’ll love the sd loader

You’re welcome buddy! I love SNK too!

Thank you dude! So glad you’re finding the videos entertaining and informational! Cheers buddy!!

Thank you 🙏! Plenty more home console videos to come! And also handheld of course 😁

What's mine is mine And mine and mine And mine and mine and mine NOT YOURS

It’s a pretty genius design!

Yep, I am planning on doing a video for it as soon as I can. It looks really awesome!

Haha, true, I’m sure it was a great teacher of patience. The games are incredible for sure and they quality to me is indistinguishable to MVs and AES. It’s a great console for sure 👍

@@MachoNachoProductions There were a few differences. Some games would lose a few animation frames to help speed up loading. See Mai Shirinui's P-Power super in Real Bout Special for an example. Other games, mostly fighters, would sometimes have an option of only using one stage for all fights in 2P mode, only loading new character sprites. You sometimes had the option to turn off cutscenes or make character select screens a simple list rather than graphical. Older/smaller games loaded very quickly, sometimes even only once. It's mostly stuff you really only noticed if you were hardcore about it. At one point I owned all three systems. (MVS, AES, CD) The NEO•GEO is my all time favourite system.

it teaches you Jedi-like patience... you'll be able to wait for anything after you wait for Real Bout to load on the neo geo cd

@@Shiro128b Sengoku is one.

Totally agree, for the time, what it did was fantastic

Yep 20 times faster than an 8-bit home computer loading from cassette!

Most complaints about loading times are often exaggerated, there are a few that yeah are super slow, but not everything is that slow

@@MachoNachoProductions I just wish they've put more RAM into it, so it could have more ports from mvs/aes

Also broke a lot faster than the other two

it doesn't have more ram for games only for the cd rom to load faster but it overheats as hell and it's not easy to rapair

Thank you so much 🙏☺️

I think furrtek utilized a foam pad to put pressure when he sold the kit. I suppose hot glue could work also 😅

@@MachoNachoProductions Oh he did, I ended up having to use both lol. I was getting bad chip dumps until I put extreme pressure on the connector. I believe he has since updated the connector to one that fits better.

Hey Maciben! That’s true, I think I forgot about that when drafting the script but dude realize it when I was editing the video. Yeah, I noticed that video retention falls during the intro and I was thinking it could be because it was too long. I’ve done a couple videos with a shorter version to see if there’s a difference. Cheers!

Only on the brown fuzzy shielding version! The metal shielding version requires no cutting. Stay tuned to our Discord for stock updates! Right now parts shortage is unfortunately making this unfeasible.

Thank you Red 🙏☺️

THIS!

Nice!

I’ve never played on a c64, I can only imaging the load times 😅

It's my biggest issue with most of the ODEs, that you have to flat out remove the optical drive to install them. It's especially painful for systems like the Dreamcast where the optical drive/disks were unique so you would need another Dreamcast just to legally dump your game collection in the first place to use in an ODE.

Thank you! Hopefully the video will help you for your installation 😁

Please do the install! It will just transform the way you enjoy neo geo games. Jewellery.

Yes it was a failure. From a sales and market-share perspective, it never sold enough to even break 1% of the market. Just because you personally imported and bought one doesn't change that fact. The Neo Geo CD was released in September 94 and couldn't compete against the hype that was already surrounding the Sega Saturn and Sony Playstation which both released in November and December of that same year..

@@MrRobarino Lol i bet you had a Sega megadrive or Supernes didnt you? I skipped both of these and went for a Neo Geo coming from an Amiga 500 which pissed all over those 89 bit consoles. As a Hardcorer gamer it was a success. Go look at Samurai Showdown or Viewpoint on the Ps1 or Saturn and compare to the Neo Geo. Neo trumps them both.

@@v3teran75 i love all those platforms, but perhaps for different games :D

Thank you so much 🙏! I’m so happy you’re enjoying channel buddy! Cheers!

Yeah, it can be a bit fiddly but it definitely makes the mod easier

I was speaking with Mena of Phenom Mon and apparently the file he provided only allows you to build it but not alter the design. It is partially open source from what I understand.

@@MachoNachoProductions Interesting, from what Bob had said on RetroRGB, I had gotten the idea that it was completely out there for anyone to hack at but, if that is not the case, I stand corrected, thanks. :)

Yeah I was speaking to Mena who owns Phenom Mod and he said the files that furrtek provides aren’t enough to be fully considered open source.

@@MachoNachoProductions That's a shame. The mod is pretty good as it is but with so many talented people out there, we might have even seen some better down the line if they were able to make their own changes.

Given that the schematics are GPL v3, where’s Mena’s source files for their changes? They’re derivative work, so either they didn’t make any changes to them, in which case they’re following the license, or they made some changes and aren’t following it.

So glad you enjoyed the video! It’s an incredible kit! I can’t believe I forgot the JP1 jumper 🙃 I’ll make a pinned comment! Holy cow, I thought that was a ground wire, actually makes a lot more sense that power runs through it. Yeah I just heard the news about the new ownership of SNK. That’s a crazy coincidence 😅 Totally under the flex cable may not be feasible. Again, thank you for making this kit available! You are doing a tremendous service to the retro community! Cheers!

@@MachoNachoProductions haha the LED is mostly useful when you're first setting up just to see if you're BIOS is getting dumped, verified, and patched successfully. It's not really important other than that! (But I still like it regardless!) And I always enjoy every single one of your videos! Great stuff, always! I just built a GBHD Color recently that I would have never known about if not for your video about Gamebox's kits! I got a DMG kit waiting for me to install too! A flex cable would be super nice. Mena made a quick design of some sort. I also had some ideas based off of something Dan (citrus3000psi) showed off some years ago. The closest we got was trying to make adapters/QSB-type things to be able to use regular FPC ribbons like the one included with the kit, but ultimately there wasn't one with enough connections in it! The socket we found is _much, much_ better I believe and I recommend most folks at least give their 68k a nice scrubbing with a qtip and IPA before even beginning the install. Reflow may or may not be necessary but I'd at least try to get some oxidation off with the qtip. To be completely fair, I also thought that was a ground wire! It wasn't until I was trying to repair a broken NGCD until I learned otherwise. I was tracing out power rails and measuring voltages and trying to see why some of my rails were really low. It wouldn't power on, and it was just working right before! I had to learn a LOT about this console. Apparently the yellow wire has a higher voltage and when you press the power button, it pulls that yellow wire down to ground and that signals the voltage regulators to turn on/send power to the motherboard, from what I gathered. My yellow wire wasn't being pulled all the way down. Then I discovered I had a pin on the ribbon connector for the controller board only sometimes having continuity with the motherboard end. Console would power on when continuity was present. Turned out to ht the ground pin, the way that the controller board was tied into the system's ground! Turns out the pin in the ribbon connector was slightly bent. I bent it back into shape, power switch pulled yellow wire to 0 V, and console booted! I was worried once I learned it had live voltage; I was like "oh crap, what if one of those times I so carelessly left that wire flopping around it shorted something out?!?" lol so I'm glad it was as simple as a bent pin. I guess it didn't know what ground was so it was pulling it down to an arbitrary floating value instead! And the voltage regulator's output is like inversely proportional to the voltage on the yellow wire: the more you pull it closer to ground, the higher the regulator seems to output, with 0v on yellow equalling full/normal power out the regulator, so this is why I had a low, but not 0v output of my regulator! This console and this whole project has certainly been an adventure!!! It is quite an amazing mod overall and while it does have some quirks, Mena has proven he's willing to go above and beyond to help users and provide great customer support and we want to be sure everyone can get up and running! Next on the horizon from Phenom Mod is a batch of Wii HDMI kits and maybe some day some front-loader Neo SD Loader kits! You the man, Tito, and I'm honored to even have a 0.5 second screenshot of my Discord username 🤣. I'm very much looking forward to one of your potential(?) (unsure if it's a definite thing yet) upcoming videos! I don't know if it's a secret, so I don't want to spoil anything, but the one hint I'll leave is that it involves something very tiny ;) Keep up the great work! Hopefully we can get some awesome Nacho Nacho vids for many years to come. It's cool seeing the console stuff on your channel now too and not just the handhelds and other stuff! I really wanna get one of those Save the Hero things you featured to make cartridge battery swapping without losing saves easier! Take it easy, man! Maybe you'll feel like doing a Wii HDMI video :p

Edu, I'm glad to see you here! I love to watch old consoles been modified to get playable again nowadays! Tito's videos is a glimpse to retrogamers. Abraços do Brasil!...

Thank you so much 🙏 glad you enjoyed the video!

bilada

Thank you for watching 🙏☺️

Thank you kill-9 🙏. Haha true, watching paint dry might be more fun 😂. It’s pretty crazy how long the load times are

Can you tell more about such setup? Is that rgb output?

Thank you! Yes, this kit makes all the difference 😁

Thank you watching! So glad you enjoyed it 😁

That’s true, there are some other awesome features I didn’t dive into. It’s such a great kit, and I may have to do a follow up.

Yeah it's nowhere near as much but there some quality MVS conversions and homebrew. It's definitely not the same as a traditional Neo Geo but it's for sure a much cheaper way to get into it... When parts shortage doesn't ruin everything...

@@MachoNachoProductions If you decide to go through with that idea Tito. I say be my guest.

@@RastaJediX MVS conversions? Which ones? Tasty!

Unplayable may have been a bit harsh 😅

I agree with unplayable. Every tried kof99?

@@DavideNastri One title in a sea of 90ish. Three if you also count The Last Blade 1 & 2 which, admittedly, does have some bad loading. Everything else is more than manageable, often only requiring one load and the rest is good to go. Most of these games would play no differently if they were on a PS1, 3DO or Saturn. Every CD console has to load, that's just a fact of life.

@@SkyScourgeGod Strongly disagreed. A few titles are more than fine but more "modern" ones are just pain. Imho any kof after 96 is just unplayable. Check art of fighting 3... You have many online charts showing loading times around (and more) than one minute PER ROUND. World hero 2 jet (old) is... 40 seconds per round? Not acceptable. Install neo SD loader and you will see what your neo geo cd is capable of. Perfection, loading times are close to zero, always. Ps1 loading times, compared to a normal ngcd are zero. Ngcd has 1x cd, the slowest of the bunch. Also had 56 mbit window of RAM to load into that just made it worse from loading perspective than any saturn or ps1. More than my opinion this is... The planet's opinion on the topic.

@@DavideNastri I admire your conviction. I agree that those load times were entirely too long, even in the context of the mid-90s. Today? Completely unacceptable. Sounds like this is the product you've been waiting for!

Totally agree it’s fantastic!

@@MachoNachoProductions :D Tito, allow me to ask... What do you use to play neo geo games? The pads are imho not great and very very often broken since the nineties...

@@DavideNastri the AES stick or a Brook adapter =)

@@RastaJediX Brook is a nice idea... I use the saturn2neogeo and it is another life :)

Thank you!

Completely agree, they are a game changer!

I'd call that an ode to an ODE.

Totally agree 😁

Totally worth it 👍

Thank you! It is actually connecting to the chip. As far as I know there isn’t any issues cause by heat

The 68K doesn't really get that hot. No worries about heat! NeoBiosMasta has been around for a long time and has used this same approach. No issues reported over the years.

It’s crazy right?! 😅

Nevermind. You answered that question. I'll look into it