Hey, thanks for the feedback! Good luck to you.

Yes sir!

Yeppers!!!

Yeppers! Thx

Your welcome!

Good luck!

Nice man! Anytime you need anything let me know. I have a ton of stuff that you could try

Nice thx and good luck!!

Yeppers

Thank you! Good luck!

Thx for the kindness and the sub!

Yeppers! Make sure you reference all of the vids in the description, too!

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors Yes Sir 👍

Yes sir! Good luck to you!

Hey thx!

Your welcome and thanks for stopping in!

Thx man appreciate that!

Thx!

Good luck as well!

I just got a back up set in and actually retired this one with a slightly longer tail although I haven’t had zero problems with the current one I’m using.

Good stuff!

I would not put a stopper knot. It is unnecessary. When you understand how this particular knot works, it’s impossible to pull through itself before it breaks the rope.

Yes sir! I have a wife and three kids to come home to! Thanks for checking in!

Yes sir!

I just get mine from Eastern Woods Outdoors. He offers the triangle and Oval. I would get the Triangle one.

Yeah there are some who have. I trust the knot. Watch the videos in the description. The know holds at crazy weight!

Are you referring to the tale end of the scaffold knot? If so, in all my research of that knot I have never seen anyone do that. Even the videos I linked in the description, they don’t do that.

They should. As an ex rock climber you always put redundancy into the system, always. If anything should fail, you’ll always have a back up

I’m just trying to make sure I understand what you were saying. These companies I reference specializes in arborist and also rock climbing. You can go to the links that I put in the description. Without that back up knot these scaffold knots break at extreme weights.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I think what Bob M is saying is that it is common practice in the climbing community to add a stopper on the tag end as an added security feature. It’s unlikely that a properly tied knot will come undone under load, but a stopper knot is cheap easy security to help prevent that from happening. Very common in climbing.

I agree, and I am all for safe practices, but with this knot its completely unnecessary.. good luck to all of you guys!

I have the sidewinder in house. Doing a review soon

Thanks for stopping in!

Easternwoodsoutdoors.com has a lot of the stuff you need if not all. They sell complete kits. If you get on there you should be able to kind of identify exactly what you personally want and need

Get a Kong ascender..

You definitely could leave yourself a long enough tail to do so, however, I would encourage you to look at the videos. I posted in the description. The beauty about this is knot is all of the weight is pulling on the main line, not the tail. It’s virtually impossible to slip.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors you are absolutely correct 👍. I should of watched those videos before commenting. Those video were very helpful. Thanks again !

Hey no worries. I only reference to videos so that you could watch some slow motion demos of how that knot actually works. Thank you for asking the questions.

Here you go: doublesteps.com/product/kong-quick-link-triangle-8mm/

I am, I can get 7’ on my first climb and after 3 moves my feet will be at 18’ I like the pack ability of the stick.

Are you referring to the tail end of the actual scaffold knot or the tail end of the rope itself? I am all about safety!

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors yea the tail end of that knot u tied in this video..they are sayin u should leave a longer tail end hanging out an make a backup knot in that tail

I get the idea but it’s Unnecessary. I referenced two or three professional arborist videos in my description and none of them tied it back up not. The one that tested the knot tested it at extreme weights I believe 18 KN before the knot failed. I believe tying a back up not on that is unnecessary.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors oh ok yes sir..I just didn't know if u understood what they were referring too. I got a latitude method 2 xl and EW ultimate one stick..be my first year huntin out of one..I'm still learning about it..I have the madrock but I thought it was only for descending and so I bought a Kong duck too lol..it was a tad confusing at first but it sure is lighter than that summit titan I pack around public land for miles lol..bow season starts Saturday. I'm pumped

Nice man! That’s exciting! Good luck to you this year. If there’s anything you need help with let me know!

I just put it on how I showed it in the video. You can still slide it to one end or the other if you need to even after it’s tightened. Let me know if that helps and if I understood your question right.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I believe you've answered my questions. I wasn't sure if it belonged in one corner of the device over another, or maybe it doesn't matter.

I don’t think it matters… It will gravitate to one corner or the other.

I am a novice too! Lol. I would have to look that knot up which tells you how much of novice I am. I only know it by the name, scaffold knot.

You could if you want, but it’s unnecessary. If you tie it the proper way the only movement you have is on the main line and it cinches down onto your quick link. The tail does not move.

I personally add a stopper knot on every rope I have. Its a quick and easy step to provide an extra layer of insurance. If your new to saddle hunting and aren’t familiar with terminal knots then I recommend to practice practice practice and also use stopper knots. Remember: you never know what can happen so always inspect your equipment before use. When you climb your safety, comfort, and piece of mind resides in your hands. Take it from someone who has fallen. Stopper knots are still a good idea even on properly tied terminal knots. God Bless.

Saftey is KEY!! Thx for the input

The figure 8 is a strong knot I think this Scaffold Knot is more clean.

It also bites onto the quick link better.

From my experience it pulls out quick. My advice is that after you tie the knots you body weight test it on the ground. There is a difference between slow pulling that knot and giving it a shock or adding quick weight to it. Reference the last video in the description and they do a good job at educating people on that particular or knot. Even though in that video as they slow palled at the wraps still cinched down on the main line that’s not the experience that I have in the tree.

Thx

I am brand new to the 1 stick game and this video was a life save. I am enjoying your videos, keep them coming!

Awesome man! Anything I can do to help, let me know.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors I’ve got 100’s of questions 🤣🤣

Lol!

The figure 8 is a strong knot also. I believe they test it in one of the videos that I posted in the description.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors awesome, I’ll check that out. Thanks!

Yes, if you did it, the way you are talking, you would then have to pull 40 feet of rope through the figure 8 loop. With the quick link, you can keep everything rolled up in your pouch, and simply wrap it around the tree, and feed the rope through the link.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors cool, totally agree and understand. Thanks for the reply

Yeppers

What I’m trying to get people to do is go into the videos I referenced in the description which gives the educational portion. When this knot it tied properly, the “load strand” or the “main line” it what moves NOT the tail. That tail cannot “slip thru”. A few people have said that they tie a stopper not for redundancy and that’s perfectly OK, but again the tail does not move. In the video they test this not up to 18.2 5 KN and a tail does not move.. we don’t even come close to that at 200 pounds. The whole purpose for me of the video was to just help the community know that there is a right way to tie this knot and a wrong way. If a person wants to add a 6 inch tail, which is typical for let’s say your figure 8 I’m good with all of that. Some of my comments are only pointing out that this is knot is not like your typical knot because the load strand or the main line is, what’s moving, not the tail. I am 100% for safety! That was the whole purpose of the video. Hopefully that helps. Thx for stopping in and chatting!

Also, if you watch those reference videos, one of the professional, arborist and companies that doing this particular knot only uses the tail at the width of their hand, which is about 4 inches. I put four videos in the description that people who watch this video can reference and go back and learn the proper way, and make the safety decisions accordingly.

I think with this particular not you can do whatever you would like. When you understand the knot, and you tied it right it is impossible to pull through itself as the main line is was holding the weight.

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors thanks!

I have gone thru the videos myself looking for the answer… the last three videos all show a 3 wrap, not two wrap. For me I changed from the two wrap and went to a three wrap because it doesn’t hurt anything. Also, in that last video I posted that was the only “real testing“ I had seen. The three wrap held up to 18.7 KN which is closing in close to 5000 pounds so I felt like if I could replicate that I would definitely be safe!

I’m no expert but I don’t think there is a difference… especially used in this specific application. I do know that during rope testing/ breaking strength tests, the rope almost always breaks at the knot…. a knot typically cuts the ropes strength in half. A splice is the strongest termination but not all ropes can be spliced (pun intended) 🥴🔥. I like keeping my tail ends a little longer though. I heard 8x the width of the rope is about perfect…. Too long it could get in the way; too short and it could slip through.

There is ZERO chance for this knot to slip. The weight is on the mainline. I think when people understand how this knot works they will understand why you don’t have to tie an secondary back up. I reference Cheryl arborist videos in the description, and none of them back this not up. If this not slips, that means your quick link has broken and it’s pulling through itself. It’s impossible to make this slip. Check out the videos I referenced in the description.

Help me out man.. I’m not following?

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors lol it's when you start tying the knot

Ah I’m following now! Lol

Never hurts to double check.

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Good deal!

@@platinumpursuitoutdoors you should give it a shot. No matter how much you load it it's still easy to untie

I will have to check it out. Thx for the heads up.