Bella Kok you right. Even if he is the big bad wolf, he deeply love his grandkids... I wanted forgiveness for him 😔

He truly loved Nathan as well. As Deb later said, everything good he ever did in his life was because of him.

@@__Queen_of_Hearts__ Yeah, I think so too - he just didn't know how to be a good parent which was a shame. I think it was easier for him to be a good grandparent cos he had that distance when it came to guiding them - he wasn't the one having to push them in sports and make major life decisions.

@@__Queen_of_Hearts__ im pretty sure he loved lucas aswell in his own way, atleast later on, early in the show he was looking at old photos of him aswell, there was something

@@adamjohanssonn He loved both of his sons. Remember how he drove Lucas to the hospital after the accident and gave the doctors permission for surgery. He loved Lucas he never knew how to show it because Karen kept Luke from him.

Yeah!, that was big 1, I never forgave him for that aspect, but I mean he REALLY! tried in the end

Patrick Gaddis it's like you hate him but love him. he only killed keith because he truly believed keith was trying to kill him at the dealership. dan felt so bad after that when he realized it wasn't him

I know that I'm probably the only OTH fan who hated Keith and wasn't sad when Dan killed him. Everyone acts like Dan was such a monster but it's not true. Let's look at what Keith's done: Stole his brothers son, Ignored his nephew for years, drove drunk with Lucas in the car, sleep with his Brother's Wife, try to steal his other son, attack him at work, brought a gun to kill him with (even if he didn't do it), let Dan think that he tried to kill him, even though he knew the identity of the real attempted murder, start building a life with the woman his brothers in love with, and then flaunt said relationship in his face. Let's review Dan's misdeeds: Dan was just a kid himself when Karen got pregnant and he regretted what he did. He loved Karen and freely admits that she was the love of his life. Deb got pregnant and Dan finally did the right thing. When Karen went into labor, Dan was there but Keith was holding Lucas so he left. He kept a box full of pictures of Lucas growing up. He was tough on Nathan, but Deb ran off and left them for another man. I'm sure Dan had some mixed emotions about that that he couldn't express. He didn't cheat on Deb. He told that woman that he loved his wife and was going home to make up with her when he caught her having sex with Keith. Dan had a heart attack and pretended to be sicker than he was to win his wife back...though it didn't work out. He hired Jules but Karen was the one who chased her away. Not Dan! Deb tried to kill him and he was suffering PTSD. You can't tell me he wasn't. He thought Keith did it and Keith was marrying the love of his life. I'm not surprised that he shot him. Then he spent the rest of the show trying to be a better person. He took the blame when he thought Nathan killed Dante. He was helping Karen though her pregnancy. He brought Abby a doll. He rescued Jamie. He did right by his grandson. He killed Carrie. He set the record straight when that girl lied about being pregnant. He gave Mouth money. He helped Hayley. He rescued Nathan. I honestly feel like Keith's death was the best thing that happened. I only wish Dan had been forgiven a few episodes before he died.

Tamera Farly so I saw this somewhere else and you copied and pasted it.

shataysia nelson Yeah, it's my comment. I wrote something similar somewhere else. (I can't copy and paste. I'm using my phone and the KZfaq app doesn't let me do that)

If Dan's character could teach us anything it's the difference between redemption and forgiveness.

damn she straight snatched her up from him though

me 2

FOR REAL THO! LIKE DAMN HE WASN'T GONNA KIDNAP HER !

Katie Vineyard ,n

Katie Vineyard type

most def, he LOVED HIS GRANDS MORE THAN LIFE ITSELF/ THE UNIVERSE

At least he had people with him when he did finally die, people who were then actually sad.

I didn't hate Dan

@@louise1291 I actually find Dan to be attractive and prefer him over Keith.

I am not going to hate a character that the show tells me to hate

Allena Tran me to

They should have brought her back when Lucas returned briefly during season 9

She’s the reason chad left the show because she got mad at the creator for making sexual advances toward her and refused to return and they didn’t wanna kill or off so they just wrote out their characters

@@taylorpack7705 that’s not why she left In her book, The Rural Diaries, Burton expands on her explanation, writing that she was "feeling a bit lost" and was "a miserable girl" in 2007. Those feelings, coupled with her friend's death, made her want to start living "intentionally." "It was time to make a change, so I left One Tree Hill.” Where did you hear about she left bc she got mad at the creators for making sexual advances towards her? Another one too is that they didn’t pay her enough and that is why she left but she has said it herself that is a rumor

Blame Mark my guess peyton left over his sexual harassment to hilaria

Dan was always a tragedy unto himself. From the moment he sat out the state championship game and when he chose the wrong woman when he got 2 of them pregnant at the same time.

Not hated himself but redeemed himself. He took a life, but saved a life. His son. Even his grandson at one point. Dan Scott may be the best character in television history

Elia Simon I hear you but don’t think something like that would have been that effective because him shooting dan and killing him was what set him apart from everybody. like everybody loved keith, but I don’t think that they would’ve all been mad at him. 1. Because People hating that some one watched someone get shot is actually kinda hurtful like what is one supposed to do, and not everyone will be mad or hurt enough that he did that. 2. Because a big part of Dans guilt was that he killed his brother.

his redemption arc would’ve made him one of the best written characters ever if he didn’t kill keith

Yeah I never really believed that he could kill him, it seemed like such a large leap.

@@gm.8805 I don’t think it was possible to be redeemed

@@Sciciyoung1 from a storyline point of view yes, it was more dramatic and shocking, I’m just saying it made me sad lol

ME, ! it confused the hell out of me, but I heard things wasn't working on set or something !

+Sasha Beez Chad wanted to make more money and do movies or different shows I think? but due to that Hilaire got wrote off so Peyton and Lucas would be endgame

Alyssa Reagan I don't know where people keep getting the whole Chad wanting to leave thing because Hilarie said it herself that she wanted to leave because she and the producers didn't agree on Peyton's story line from that last season she was on and therefore they weren't bringing Chad back either.

+asdfghjkl I've seen some interviews explaining that that Chad wanted to leave and explaining why.

I didn't even watch seasons 7-9

F that

I know this was three years ago but this comment is the best. You’re a rare gem in this world ma’am.

Mine is Brooke but I adore Peyton and relate to her the most. Glad her and Lucas finally found their way to a future together.

Giulia Picchiotti I hated her. Lucas and Brooke were way better

@@boomds5602 That's funny ; Leyton forever !!

@@boomds5602 how?

Senate300 I’m surprised that Lucas didn’t freak out more considering I’m sure he knew Peyton and his daughter had probably just had a run in with him

@@boomds5602 Peyton probably didn't tell him. Not that it mattered because Dan ain't seeing his granddaughter again anytime soon.

@@Senate300 fear of argument?

@@Russophile30 could be.

Sasha Sasha me too

I wanna do more than just hugging him. 😏🤭

Pretty sure most of the fans of the show have the mentality of a 10 year old thats why. Yes its perfectly normal to not want a MURDERER near your child, especially since they killed what wouldve been that child's actual granddad

@@zackc799 "Most of the fans have the mentality of a 10 year old" hahaha thats the biggest oversimplification I've ever seen...the redemption/forgiveness of ex convicts is actually a more complex question than that...its open to debate

***** Exactly, I agree with you 100%, they painted Dan to be a murderous monster for killing the guy who he thought tried to kill him. Keith bought a gun for the sole purpose of killing Dan simply because his feelings were hurt and he would have gone through with it if Deb didn't stop him to try to do it herself... so if you look at the big picture Dan might be a major ASS-hole, but Deb and Keith are the murderers(well, attempted murder...same shit). Now I LOVE Keith, but I am NOT siding with him on this one...

True!

Dan was a bad men. Really, bad He loved his family, like every Person. But he shouldnt be forgiven. Its difficult.

You’re actually an idiot. Dan has no reason to kill Keith he had no motive to kill Keith.

Jealously

I doubt there will be since Marks Schwan's sleazy actions towards the actresses of OTH tainted the shows legacy.

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Please tell me you didn't asked me that, considering the title of the video...

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Anakin Skywalker ?

They may have called him evil but he was their necessary evil.

Yeah also he was convinced keith tried to kill him. Also it bugs me how no one cares that deb planned and attempted to kill dan. She got no shit for it what so ever lol

A man who shows genuine remorse and repentance deserves forgiveness!. Bottom line, I know alot of like atheists and moral relativists cant understand or agree with that and I get it,but it happens to be true.

Yeah but killing Keith isn't the only reason we hate him,Also how he pressured Nathan and ignored Lucas for the first 14/15 years of Lucas's life.

@@ibrahimanjum6575 But didn't he tried to fix that mistake

Taylor Pack Lucas owes dan nothing at all

Pretty sure Chad was only contacted for one episode...I think he was busy at the time which was why his cameo was so short, as he had to work it around other stuff

@@boomds5602 what makes me mad was they never had like a scene where Dan explained exactly why he killed Keith to Lucas. He was under the impression that Keith tried to kill him so that’s why he shot him.

Ça se fait au USA je crois 😅 c’est vrai que James s’appelle comme ça pour Haley James/Sawyer pour Peyton et même Jude et Davis 😅

I could understand James, I could understand Davis ( and idk where Jude came from lol) But for such a romantic power couple, I was hoping they could have come up with a better name than Sawyer.

It's a southern tradition.

There’s no problem. She initially said no but I don’t blame her lol

Dan abandoned her husband as a child and then went on to kill his only father figure. I wouldn’t have let him hold her if I was Peyton.

You’re an idiot

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Why?

WHY?????!!!!