kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdaRa9idnLutfnU.htmlsi=L5fwuiwj2F3HnTkk See the original video by dillisan here.

They obviously signed up to lower keys just to grief them. How pathetic is your life to actually follow through and do something like that.

Actual weirdos in some of these keys I swear. I hope this gets someone's attention at Blizzard cause that's literally intentionally griefing. Maybe a ban will help them go touch grass for once.

Would love to have a follow up on this video to see if these guys got in trouble or not. This is exactly what the social contract is for and if blizz doesn't enforce it the contract becomes a bit of a joke.

I would have left as soon as the priest gripped the shadow into the trap the first time. I have zero tolerance for stuff like this anymore, it's simply not worth my time.

ok pause. if a pug gripped me into a mechanic and killed me i'd leave instantly. that would tilt me off the face of the planet. but i guess it's lilith's key so he just takes it on the chin. this tank/healer duo is just pathetic.

Bazzamage is not only toxic but he is actually a bad player and i personally have seen him troll 18-19 keys so we hope for a ban there :)

It's important to not burn the keyholder who did nothing wrong early on; however they really were trying hard to tilt and mess up the shaman. Then gaslighting him (especially after the handicapped comment.) Good on you for exposing this bs. It's why I very rarely pug nowadays.

that is why i have neural silencers in my bags, i am tanking a 8/9 earlier this week, and this dragon was trying to troll me with the grabs. the 2nd time he touched me i instant use the neural silencer

Joking around in a key happens with buddies but to be toxic towards a random player in the key and then acting like they aren’t trolling the guy is comical. These losers live terrible lives for sure.

The way I knew this was going to be Dillisan's recent video before it even started...

okay I had an experience similar to this two weeks ago it was with a dk tank it was my key at +10 since the dungeon started he was complaining because he was thinking he was carrying me and he even wanted to me to pay him or he would leave making everyone wipe and doing big pulls he tells me this in the middle of the dungeon my gear was a little lower like for a +10 but everything was fine nothing bad had happened and we could do the dungeon perfectly when we finished with the 2 boss the dk starts to complain a lot because he don't want to carry me and immediately leaves the dungeon and then starts insulting me and spamming and saying a lot of things like you are the worst rogue I have ever seen in my life at least if you want to make a +10 you have to pay me and you need at least 2 iq points to do a +10 just quit ur horrible then he started talking bad about my mother why? idk but i told him not to talk about her because my mother passed away about 3 months ago and I really don't know why he did all that when he joined the group he could have seen my gear or just left but he preferred to waste my time besides insulting me for like 20 mins straight and I only have a month playing wow im a new player I really didn't expect to find someone like that...

I feel so sorry for the guy, I watch him and can relate to the issues that he has, when i saw this video I was enraged and I hope Blizzard looks at it and perma-bans those assholes. I didn't even see that first one in the original video, good pickup.

When I first saw this video I didn't' realise that the priest was gripping the other priest into traps at the start.

insane to me as a purely pvp'r since vanilla that the pve comunity seems more riddled with toxic players. glad you are making awareness for it, keep the videos coming :)

There was a time you pull crap like that on Twisting Nether word would get around, and you would never group again.

That's just... I mean... I cannot even begin to comprehend hwo this kind of thing happens. These guys have to be legitimate sociopaths to be doing this kind of thing, and not only doing it but trying to pawn it off on the shaman who they are abusing, to further abuse the keyholder. These are the kind of people who decide they are bored with keys, cannot progress further or are unwilling to put in the effort to progress further on thier main so they decide to "have some fun in low keys" by trolling people. Now don't get me wrong, I have had a DK tell a holy priest to life grip me to my death (Shoutout to Sylandria for the BoP) but that was in raid, once, when the fight was already over. This is like someone who saw that happen, spent 2 years thinking about how to weaponize it, and decided to unleash that power in a low key "for the memes". Unacceptable on every level. These people are trash and their mere presence in our game soils every other paying subscriber. This right here should be the example Blizzard holds up for the changes they make in m+ that address bad actors. Because if they use THIS as an example, there can be no argument, and anyone who tries well, to slightly misquote a sentiment of the immortal Jesse Cox... LoL is right over there, enjoy.

As an EU player, when I pugged I avoided 3 servers like the plague, Twisting Nether, Silvermoon, Sanguino, and the proof is in the pudding as they say. I have never had a good experience with a player from those 3 servers, whether keys were timed or not. Absolute despicable behaviour.

Hope Blizzard sees this and bans these players, they are just messing with people who are doing lower keys.

Disgusting narsasist people in that group. The poor person being attacked I hope gets justice and the toxic players get a ban. This is absolutely disgusting behavior. And thank you for putting awareness to this .

How can someone who is so "experienced" in the game and runs such high keys be such an antisocial person? People like that are the reason why it's so incredibly difficult for new M+ players to gain a foothold. Really unbelievable! I've seen many high M+ players give tips and try to help "worse" players instead of trolling them and that's exactly how it should be. The two in the video should really be ashamed of themselves!

I think the most obvious indicator of just how pathetic this Priest player is, is the fact that he probably actually lied about who pulled that mob to his own friend because he was just too much of a loser to admit that it was him. Just think about that for a second, how much of a loser you have to be that you cannot even own up to such a simple mistake to your own team mate and have to pin it on someone else instead. It's incredible that such type of person manages to have an ego.

When the tank says "Don't tell me what to do I will just rebel" tells you exactly the type of person who is behind the screen. Someone who probably has very little control over anything in their own life and does shit like this to get their little ego boost hahaha

Not defending the behavior but there is a way to shut people's ability to grip you off. Neural Silencers or some such device but guy prob didn't have any to use. Neural Silencer Item Level 1 Use: Makes you immune to some annoyances. Persists through death. Lasts 12 hrs.

Pretty shitty behaviour. I hope blizzard actually responds to the reports. Also hope that these guys are made aware that everyone thinks they are awful.

Dillisan is known for his zero to hero series. I think he does one each season. This could be that toon (I haven't kept up XD). Outside of that, behavior like this is insanely unacceptable. Are there ways to send in videos like this to Blizz on top of their report? I kinda wish there was.

That's why I never invite premades or people of the same guild (because there's that, also: One comes in and then "suggests" a guild mate). No matter the key level, the probability of geting a sack of scumbags who just want to laught at someone else's disgrace is just too high to risk.

I've been yelling this for months. Do not get keys downgraded upon not finishing or not timing it. Let people decide their own level of keystone! If you let them do that people can just leave mid-key if they see idiots like the tank and healer. Why bother spend time with them if you can find nicer people? The pressure of rating would drop enormous because there's no fear of downgrading your key anymore. People with normal rating would get invited again. People will be able to learn again in keys instead of having to do it perfect 1st time. The timer can still be there but it's not as pressuring as before. REMOVE DOWNGRADE ON KEYS. GIVE PEOPLE THE POWER TO DOWNGRADE IT WHEN THEY WANT WITH THE PANDALADY.

When I watched this originally on Dilli's channel I even had the thought "Metro would love this BS!" And for some reason I never thought to actually make you aware of it! In Dilli's video breaking this down he even missed many of the things you picked up that I saw and more even .

It hurt me to have seen this because I too have been abused by people in keys and yes, most of them are elite players with high scores. I learned the hard way not to invite duo's or even trios.

14:00 ...Never done a *_Mythic+ Run,_* but just logically, if they can't "kill the totem" without him, then he's NOT being carried ???

Your little “buckle up” aside killed me 😂

if i ever meet that DK and priest..... oh ive got some words.

I am new to retail wow this season. I main outlaw rogue and getting into keys higher than an 11 is difficult even tho I have completed 16+ in all dungeons. So often times I do weekly 8s or 10s just for mythic vault slots. When you say never invite someone who doesn’t need the key is them just doing weekly vault runs not something you consider?

The saddest part is the SPriest who not only did not see any of the trolling that the other priest was doing to the shaman (which is honestly quite hard to miss, given that life grips are super noticable), or the super unnecessary language used by the dk calling sham handicapped, but he HIMSELF got gripped into his death early on and still didn't even think for a second that the other priest and the dk are in the wrong but instantly turned on the shaman. I mean, sure, it's a tough situation because he wanted his key to be finished and siding with the shaman to call those 2 out would probably have made them go on an ego trip and leave, but it's still really hard to watch him enabling this kind of shit instead of calling it out. Same goes for the evoker, who doesn't even have the benefit of this being his own key.

This reminds me of a time at the end of SL where i was prepping my hpal for the new expansion and I joined a 20 iron docks and as soon as I get into the group, 3 of the 4 other people (im assuming they were all friends) are like "damn looks like we are going to have to carry this hpal" and keep in mind, Im pretty sure I was only like 50 score under these guys on my alt. But the whole time we are heading to the dungeon, they are saying things like "I expect to be payed for this carry" and similar things. When we get into the dungeon, they keep spamming trade with me saying to pay them since "they will be 4 manning the dungeon essentially". So i decided to wait for the key to start and right as it did i said something like "have fun with your 4 man since you can easily do it" and then left the key and ran out of the dungeon and blocked and reported all of them. I dont get why people randomly decide to harass people for no reason.

they should just ban the tank and healer for the first couple weeks of the new expac

I hope blizzard sees this video and permaban the accounts of the Bdk and Priest premade . What they are doing is literally against the ToC

and this is exactly why I carry around magical intrusion dampeners at all times. prevents life grip and rescue from evokers, my buddies love to swap blast each other off cliffs and its sometimes its funny but sometimes its tilting

This is everywhere, i would have to say though the most toxic would be the ones who suck but will argue to the end that you suck and they are awesome, then the group wipes and everyone leaves.

I was really angry when I first saw this at Dili's channel, this wasn't trolling it was pure emotional blackmail. "Do what we say or we grief this guy's key because of you, but you'll be the bad guy." I can imagine how much the keyholder was freaking out, I bet he understood the situation but he didn't want his key getting bricked literally at the end so he sided with the toxic duo so his key gets finished. I wish these guys would never step foot into M+ ever again, but sadly I bet nothing happened to them.

well, this is a massive toxic run, pulling the shaman smh, felt so sorry for Dragnaar

Where did you get that ceiling fan ? Looks like its from BFA

"Animal bracket" is the term we use among my friends.

This vid hit home. Just last week me(mm hunter) and my friend(ret pally) were running some alts through lower keys 3-5. We picked up a DH tank and his buddy for Algeth'ar Academy. First thing I notice is people are dying on the trash clear to Overgrown Ancient pulling aggro. Tank says "sorry my PC froze up". Hmm, ok. Immediately after the fight tank bolts off to the Guardian Sentry mini boss. We had a few deaths so we have some people that released and they're running back. I survived the fight so I go off with him. The tank grabs the mini boss without hesitation and pulls him closer to the landing zone on the small cross island so the mini bosses AOE covers the landing zone. Again we almost have a wipe as more people are coming over from the main land they're hitting the AOE as they land. Hmmmm... Next we head over to start clearing trash for Crawth. Tank aggros adds then just stands there and several people pull aggro off him and die. My friend pipes up in chat "WTF Tank?". Tank launches into this insane tirade of insults. We just boot the tank. Inspected tank on raider IO turns out he had like 3500 rating. I figured he was just trolling us.

That trap lifegrip is the reason why I always have neural silencer buffs active in my runs to make sure stuff like that never happens.

Wow I didn't even notice they targetted the key holder as well and I am surprised by how clueless the shadow priest was as well, this also just proves to not invite duo's especially with high scores to a low key because most of the time you get people like this.

this is why i would not even try mythics any more, after 1 mythic in DF and getting some sweaty dudes run me off the whole way as i was slower than them and they where like you said over 1k over the key its not worth my time or brain cells. thanks for the vid.

I'm speechless, this is the most toxic shit I've ever seen in this game. I doubt their guild leadership really cares, maybe they are leaders lmao, but it would be nice to see them suffer some consequences like getting kicked from their raid team, if Blizz isn't going to do anything about it.

I'm one of DIllisan's reoccurring viewers, and thank you so much for looking at this and exposing this to a larger audience. Your analysis of this was completely spot on, and I'm glad more people are experiencing how toxic this community can be unfortunately

New to the channel and your community seems super awesome, Mature, Skilled aswell, Watching your vids makes me want to reinstall Dragonflight and give mythic keys a shot. I've NEVER done them before and they seem like they would be super fun. I just don't know where to start, what to do, etc. Everytime i try to understand what is going on, i get yelled at or kicked from a group. (Been a WoW player since OG TBC). So i've just been sticking to cata.

do i understand that correct: the priest heal falls off the cliff, pulls mobs, gets pepsid, then the dk and holy prob decide in discord or whatever that its the shamys fault. so they try to kill the shamy which would mean he cant contribute to the last boss. then they get mad because cant "kill without the shamy" ( who they tried to kill anyways?). did i miss something?

Look I'll admit I enjoy some trolling here and there in pugs (a lot of trolling if it's premade with friends) but this isn't trolling! This was targeted harassment. They started by targeting the shadow priest for missing the kick but because they don't get a reaction they move on until they get a reaction from the shaman and once they got what they wanted they kept pushing for more reactions. Again I love trolling in my groups, pulling someone back so they cant go ahead of me was my go to troll on my priest, with the occasional pull into a stupid position (try to get them to fall off somewhere or get them stuck on some rocks) but outright killing someone in a key on purpose isn't trolling it's griefing. I hope these assholes and anyone else who engages in similar behavior gets banned and honestly barred from any game that isn't pure singleplayer because they clearly aren't capable of playing nice with other people.

I used to be into keys but it was toxic garbage like this that caused me to take a break from them. Now I only do keys with guildies. Pugs are the worst.

I love this idea for a channel, because it's so bloody common to find people in this community with tall-poppy syndrome. The most toxic encounters I've ever really had with people in WoW is in dungeons and it's always the same kinds of people who are quick to point fingers but are totally unaware of their own mistakes. So this kind of analysis is great.

If this is the most toxic pug you have encountered in playing WoW then I think you have been blessed! Was it bad? Yes! But not even close to the most toxic I have seen. When I was still healing I had a player tell me he wished I would get cancer and that if I had kids they should be euthanized so that wouldn't have to have me as a parent.

lifetime ban only reasonable move.

This is why I don’t play anymore. I hate pugging, so when my friends moved on to other games, I quit. It is too bad though. I loved playing my resto Druid in keys. It was a fun challenge pushing higher and higher keys. I never did get to go as far as I would have liked.

As someone who plays this game way too much in stretches, I have seen overgeared/skilled players griefing in low keys too often. Hell even one of my push teams had a couple in the group that did it. I'm happy too see someone actively covering it.

you miss a kick in pvp you lose the game. it's over. people are allowed to just sit there with an entire group of people and simply not interrupt in mythic+? LMFAO this is what PvE is like in WoW? LMFAOO

Turns out there was more behind the story that Dillisan forgot to mentioned. After some leaked discord logs came out it turns out that Dillisan had gotten very heated in an earlier key(which is not streamed to hide the content). He intentionally grieved a key that one of the friends of the priest and tank was in. He even hinted to it in an earlier stream which he then removed to cover up everything to seem like the victim. All links and logs have been removed so they are left with no way of defending themselves. It disturbs me that he still uses this altered content to play the victim just to get more attention. There are always two sides of a story, the person with the largest platform gets to alter and dictate history...

As a player since vanilla through current, this is why I no longer do any dungeon. I quit doing raids, pugs, etc for the past 4 or 5 expansions. This is why... people are absolutely rude, attacking, kicking people... You can not be a casual player or a person new to the dungeon, and be treated with respect and helped or teaching people... Most of the time you get people like this and it totally ruins you experience. This is why I and many many other players quit. The problem is blizzard does nothing to help remedy this problem and behavior. FF does a way better job with their dungeon play and rules. It allows everyone to play and be welcomed.

I don't invite duos or more for this reason. Chances are they're willing to fuck around and make everyone else miserable, especially in a key they don't need for score.

Always have your "neural silencer" with you, it prevents you from getting gripped, had once 2 evokers in group, the always made me pull some packs with "rescue", very annoying

At 6:36 hes a vdh main so hes letting it go off on purpose to avoid the shield since its easy to tank enraged and since his blood is an alt he likely doesnt know he can ams it on bdk is how i read it.

this shaman's patience is huge lol i would have left right as they start blaming me for shit

gripping people into mechanics is something you do to mess with people you know and are on discord or something. Anyone who does this to pugs are just assholes

Examples must be made of the worst of the community. All involved in the trolling banned, characters deleted, all virtual items removed.

This is all summed up in 3 words: "Welcome To Retail"

I think it's great to see awareness being brought to this issue, this happens a lot, although this is a great more overt example. The trolling priest just wanted to cause discord and victim blame. Also it could be discrimination against people with disabilities. I would like to point out that they waited until the end of the key to ramp up the griefing so it's more difficult to just end the run or the victim considers it more tolerable if the key gets completed. 4 auto attacks away, "I don't want that." 😂

O M G! This happened to me and my friend two days ago. I just lvl'd my pally wanted to run some keys since it was the 4 m+ weekly. I started the group waiting on a tank DH tank Qd with a hunter. The hunter was massively under geared but the tank has a 3600 io. I was like oh he's helping his buddy oh fine so I invited them. The tank is being a little suspicious from the start. It was a 4 AA and he wasn't holding threat when he pulled the whole first room but I didn't think anything about it. Killed first boss tank runs way ahead uses air bridge pulls the air elemental to the landing spot so everyone that lands gets stunned or instantly killed. I bubble out and live. We use the air bridge and go to the birds tank just stands there doesn't even auto attack birds eat my face, it's just me and him there. I release and say wtf tank? He replies back by saying "stfu you bold fat f*ck". I'm in discord with my friends and he's like kick him we'll break it to a 3 it doesn't matter because this tank is being an ass. So I kick him and his hunter buddy keep the other rando and fill it with a significantly lower heated tank and dps and 3key it. Mean while the tank is whispering me just blowing up on me and linking his top 1% achievements and just really acting like a fool. I reply by asking him if he's okay? He keeps on. I'm like I'm sorry who are you? Just antagonizing a little at this point. He final stops whispering when I won't fight back and I reported for griefing not that anything will happen. In your video you say do not invite duos. My friend and I group together all the time and are solid behaved players but it usually takes a bit to get into a group. Now I know why!!! Not all duo teams are like this. There are genuinely good players that just pug together and don't troll. But these jerks like this are ruining for sure.

I think that saying "never invite a duo" is a bit harsh. I always play M+ with my buddy and we always do our best to go to the end of the key. Some key holders actually invite us back to do another run. I think that the problem there is the nature of the ppl. that is inevitable. Unfortunately, we're going to end up with people like that in a pug. Whether you like it or not. The lesson we take away from cases like these is to pray that we never again fall into a group with people like these. btw, great review. I really like your videos.

The second i see a non-premade/non-friend priest in party Neural Silencer is used specifically to prevent the troll grips.

This is what goes on ALL THE TIME. I'm shocked you think this is the worst. Unfortunately, I have quit wow twice to take a break from this kind of shenanigans. Every time I go to help or get a practice run in after running an alt or something, this is what I'm met with. This is totally horrendous and a good example of what happens. I would love to play with a same group of like minded players with kindness and fun, light hearted cooperation. Unfortunately, again, I don't know a group of like minded players and have to PUG LIFE it.. just to try for my personal best as a Holy Priest. I have been facing similar circumstances from an opposite perspective where people are inviting two of everything.. but especially priests. The Shadow priest almost always starts telling me they have such n so DPS for PI. They then tell ME who to pi. I then watch them pi no one.. and I'm feeling as if I have to pi the person they said they would and the person who i would've normally. :0) There's a whole other undercurrent going on when there are two priests. I have also witnessed multiple duos and tanks so bored that they scream and holler.. demeaning and shaming everyone on the team. Playing each character's role out loud in text, telling them every move to make as if they're an expert at all classes and roles. To leave the key or flat out make it so horrendous someone else wants to leave. It makes me sick with stress because that's the type of person I am. ( highly sensitive) helpful, kind, and dang determined that not only I but the whole group who joined this key in this moment are going to get their MONEY"S WORTH. I'm not sure.. I don't know why you think it's bad for an upper level person to run with lowers, however. I am not sure their io score has anything to do with their nastiness? I run low keys all the time to cheer myself up and be helpful without friends or a guild I enjoy to play with. It helps me feel part of the team work in some manner even though I have to withstand the pugs. I appreciate you getting this called out and shown. I have also noticed that people who grief like this.. will report the person being grieved as having grieved them or trolled the group. Has happened to me twice now. Where they were flagrantly awful souls to the group and I was silent and continuing to heal through because of the social contract.

THIS....This Is the entire reason why I DO NOT DO Group Dungeons or Raids Anymore!!!!!!! I was SO HAPPY to hear that Blizzard/WoW was going to implement Delves in the next expansion!!! In the past I just STOPPED any end content that had to do with Dungeons or Raids to finish season content. I felt like WOW was demanding that I do them or make the choice to NOT know the END of the content. So, sad to say....I STOPPED! I found watching cut scenes & end content video's on KZfaq would at least let me know what happened! I've been playing WOW for a number of years (2008) & Always have been so excited about the game. This all really happened when BFA was released. I LOVED the Island PVP challenges but that's when it all started to decline for me! Needless to say...I think it's about time we Stop Ignoring what's been going on for quite sometime now! You see video's that are posted with groups of people "finding each other" through the game...that's Wonderful! However, they are very few & far between!!! The Overwhelming amount of NEGATIVE Comments/Reports that have been posted or shared to Blizzard/WoW on this subject had to be quite HUGE for Blizzard/WoW to implement a change to the game with Delves!!!!!!! I hope this is just the beginning of a change within the community & Blizzard/WoW. People Need to stand up against any Type of Bullying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT's NOT OK !!!

If its not a Guildie key, I'm not doing it.

I need to log back in because I think i have this Lilith on my ignore list. I remember someone with that name being extremly toxic o.O I hope they get their account deleted. Poor guy. We are with you Shamy 💙

This is messed up! I enjoy helping low keys when I don't want to push, and it's fun helping players. Makes me super furious

And we get a 30 min punishment for leaving a lfr...

Also there is an item called Neural Silencer Mk3 which makes gripping people, rescuing people, or slow falling/levitating people impossible. definitely recommend. That doesn't excuse the priests absolutely toxic behavior

Both partys are guilty of dragging it along. There just is not a reason to conitune after multiple grips..

I knew it was the Dilli video as soon as you mentioned it from a other youtuber. I have also screenshotted their names and memorised them since theyre on EU and I only ever pug, I dont ever wanna invite/join their keys.

this is insanely scummy. even if (giving maximum benefit of the doubt and assuming they werent paying attention at the time) some of them thought that the pulling of like 2 extra mobs was his fault (since he said "pulled") this would be an insane way to react to that. if they have eyeballs he very clearly didn't pull it. but the fact that he didn't pull it doesn't even really matter because they were being scummy before then and everything they did before and after would be inexcusable even if he did pull a bunch of extra shit.

When I was filling report on a game bug i found, I think you can add a clip of the video or picture if you have it, and make the report but instead of the bug of the misconduct, no??

As a healer who pugs,i've had this happen to me and other people over and over,in mythic plus and raids.Blizzard has the tech to stop this,reporting people does not help.Penalties for bad attitudes and key depleting is not strict enough.I got told to KMS only two days ago in panda remix because i asked someone who was not moving in a raid to move.....

Usually when I cap my gear I just que lower keys to help others. It is so relaxing to delete everything in front of you and help the others time it or pass on the stuff you don't need.

_I am always kind to everyone I meet in MMO's, even if they're rude to me because I realize maybe they had a ruff day or maybe they suffer from major depression? But players like this who just go out of their way to just be douchebags to people they don't know, it makes me wonder if they are actual Sociopaths who get somekind of demented gradification from it._

I have a 3521io main and sometimes I’ll run low keys for vault on shitty weeks or for fun but I never throw keys. There’s good people out there but I can see how it’s sketchy.

Healer here. The first time I was gripped into a mechanic I would have dropped the key. I have had it with toxic players and they get no second chances from me. I pretty much stick to my guild at this point as I am completely sick and tired of the asshats. We have 3600 folks who love to join low keys and help the players get better. But I am in a decent guild with really great people. You can be a great player and a nice person too.

Wow, those guys are so cool, I hope they made a sick 30 second montage for TikTok of this run and their funny trolling.🙄

The ego of a wow player knows 100% no bounds.

I’m new to Mythics and it’s my first time seeing videos like this. Now I’m afraid to pug in high lvl people or lose my key upgrade

Always keep neural silencers in your bag in case grief grips happen. First grip--even if its just unnecessary just pop it. Its a shame this is happening in retail keys. Ive only it seen it this bad in late night lfr and panda remix (vendor sells the anti grip thing there too lol)

Might’ve been commented already, but on second boss it’s a good and viable tactic for no one to get eaten when the boss is on low health, all it does really is enrage an easy boss to do more tank damage; and you don’t have a shield to waste time on. Priest shouldn’t have been in the circle anyhow

My stance on this is simply regardless of how toxic these people are/were you timed the key, got io, and never have to see them again, so idk what the big deal is.

Way overscored guys are often bad news, but I've had good experiences with them also. Like, not that long ago, I was pugging with my friend on our shitty alts, and one of the top-5 bear tanks on our realm applied. Not just that, but his gear was basically perfect also, there was zero chance he was getting anything useful out of the low key we were doing. I told him not to invite the guy because it looked really suspicious, but he did anyway, and the guy played perfectly, accustomed his pulls to us (instead of going full-tryhard, like some "top" tanks do in lower keys, only to then blame the group after everyone except him dies), he put up with all the dumb shit we did in the dungeon, made helpful comments, etc. Dunno why he decided to spend his time carrying some scrub strangers in a low key for no benefit to himself, for sure he could join pugs for higher keys that would complete the higher key faster than our group, but he did. I guess not everyone is an asshole.

I already played with his Main in s3 on my own… was also in Voice with him… he is one of the most toxic and disgusting player i ever met

This was hard to watch,felt so bad for that shammy especially when he tried to defend himself and all blame just kept shifting to him and the grp leader woudnt listen,those 2 clowns really need to get banned. I am curious from where the fuck do ppl get that "4 reports and you get 1 week reset" bullshit because its not the first time I have heard something like that.

Doesn't happen with pets anymore if you're mounted.

Another confirmation that you should unlock tbe general levels of keys from suceeding the last one, and should have a drop down menu to select which key level you wanna do. If people like this troll, quit and you loose nothing.