Only 16% of Pilots Had a Chance to Survive this Plane

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Dark Skies

Dark Skies

Ай бұрын

It was a bold leap into uncharted territory for aviation design. The Halifax’s blueprints scrapped the traditional two-engine configuration of British bombers in favor of four powerful Rolls-Royce Merlin engines. This dramatic shift aimed to give the new aircraft unparalleled range, speed, altitude, and, most importantly, payload capacity.
The ambitious Handley Page prototype took to the skies for the first time on September 25, 1939, just in time for the opening stages of World War 2.
With very few four-engine bombers available and the Avro Lancaster still in development, the Halifax quickly became a pillar of Britain’s Bomber Command. However, it proved to be a disaster.
She was slow, vulnerable, and flew at lower altitudes than expected. Most concerning of all, she was a flying coffin. As this four-engine bomber became the backbone of British bombing operations, the survival rate of her crews plummeted.
Out of every 100 airmen aboard a bomber, 45 were lost, six were seriously wounded, and eight became prisoners of war. Halifax airmen had a mere 16 percent chance of surviving a tour. The situation was so dire that Canadian Pilot Murray Peden noted: (QUOTE) “On a single night, Bomber Command suffered more losses than did Fighter Command during the entire Battle of Britain.”
Yet, with no alternative and no intention of letting the Germans win the war, the flow of volunteers for Halifax never faltered. Brave men like Captain John Emilius “Johnny” Fauquier, against all odds and despite all of the bomber’s flaws, would rewrite history aboard the Halifax.
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@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 Ай бұрын
Britain was not lagging behind in aircraft design, in fact leading the development of 4-engine heavy bombers. For most of WW2 Germany persisted in flying twin engine medium-light bombers. The USA was two years late coming to Europe giving them time to catch up. Even so, the B-17 should only be considered as a medium bomber able to carry little more than the Mosquito. The Halibag was quite aerobatic, able to roll and loop if it had to.
@Dave85626
@Dave85626 Ай бұрын
The b17 just looked so lovely though
@lastguy8613
@lastguy8613 Ай бұрын
Yeah still waiting for that German 4 engine heavy bomber he mentioned. And the Condor dosnt count
@gregmuon
@gregmuon Ай бұрын
No, not at all, but the max bomb load was not as different as people think. Apples to apples, it was 14,000 lbs vs 12,800 lbs (B-17G).
@Alphachanel
@Alphachanel Ай бұрын
@@lastguy8613 Technically there was the HE177 which did see service, four engines in two nacelles driving a single propeller each. It did have a tendency to overheat and catch fire and was considered to be as nearly, if not more so, deadly to its crew as to those it was trying to bomb.
@jeffslade1892
@jeffslade1892 Ай бұрын
@@gregmuon The B-17G payload was between 4,000-lb to 8,000-lb to Germany and back. The factor is fuel for range. Each gun load was around the weight of a man. For comparison the Lancaster could carry the 12,000-lb Tallboy to Peenemunde, or (modified) the 22,000-lb Grand Slam. The Lanc also had direction finder, radar and proximity radar, which weighed about a ton. The Mossie 4,000-lb.
@MrEricmopar
@MrEricmopar Ай бұрын
The Halifax actually had a far lower fatality rate than the Lancaster... about 29% of Halifax crews were able to bail out, while only 11% of Lancaster crews were able to bail out, so which plane is the actual flying coffin when hit.
@user-tg3kw8ck4x
@user-tg3kw8ck4x Ай бұрын
все🤣
@seanmalloy7249
@seanmalloy7249 Ай бұрын
Not to mention the brutal mathematics of survival - if a tour was 25 missions, and you had a 93% chance of surviving each mission, you only have a 16% chance of surviving to complete a tour. It doesn't require an 'awful' aircraft to make the survival rate that low, just the inexorable constraints of random chance.
@MrEricmopar
@MrEricmopar Ай бұрын
@@seanmalloy7249 Yeah, and how do you think the crews felt, when later into the war, they increased missions required to 30 or 35!
@screwdriver222
@screwdriver222 21 күн бұрын
The Lancaster had the smallest escape hatches of RAF heavy bombers and Lancaster aircrew would have the highest losses.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 Ай бұрын
Half the video clips show entirely different aircraft - B-17, Wellington, Lancaster, Mosquito, even German bombers. The technical and continuity errors here are atrocious.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Ай бұрын
I there was a Stirling thrown in for good measure. 01:23
@brianartillery
@brianartillery Ай бұрын
I've given up complaining - I just turn the sound down, and enjoy watching the old aircraft clips - the most annoying thing is that some clips sourced are very rare, but they seldom mate up smoothly with the commentary.
@CaptainQuark9
@CaptainQuark9 Ай бұрын
@@channelsixtyeight068_ AND a Manchester, of all things!
@user-xq2zn8bu9q
@user-xq2zn8bu9q Ай бұрын
I know, it's brilliant. It's one of the reason's I watch & ❤ Dark Skies video's. 😁
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Ай бұрын
@@CaptainQuark9 Pah... what's two less engines and a completely different manufacture got to do with it. No one will know.
@stuarthannay3370
@stuarthannay3370 Ай бұрын
My Dad never said a bad word about the Halifax, he survived a full tour in 78 Squadron as a mid upper gunner.
@brackers2007
@brackers2007 Ай бұрын
Snap, we’ll kind of? My grandfather serviced nearly 2 tours in 78 Squadron. When did your dad fly and do you know the call sign of his plane? I ask as I’m trying to piece together some history.
@DC.409
@DC.409 Ай бұрын
Indeed, my great uncle was a flight engineer flew in both. As a war machine he said the Lancaster was superior because of bomb load but was terrible to escape from. The first Halifax 1 and 2 were handicapped by the poor positioning of the Merlin engines. The Mk3 with the powerful Bristol engines and aerodynamic improvements to the tail, addressed all the problems. He always maintained that Halifax was better for the crew it gave them a chance and stronger for crash landings, which they could escape from. The fact has a child his first gift to me, was the Airfix Halifax effectively said it all.
@ravenclaw8975
@ravenclaw8975 Ай бұрын
You're Dad was a very brave man! You are proud of him and all of us on here should be as well!
@stuarthannay3370
@stuarthannay3370 Ай бұрын
@@ravenclaw8975 oh we are, he did 46 missions in total. 30 in 78 Squadron and 16 in 156 Squadron (a Pathfinder unit with Lancasters).
@markgower7163
@markgower7163 Ай бұрын
I could only cope with a couple of minutes of this youtube, because of the factual / historical inaccuracies. (I usually steer clear of Dark Skies youtubes for the reasons mentioned, but I have considerable interest in the Halifax) No mention of the Stirling in those couple of minutes -- the first British four engine heavy; it flew lower on operations than either the Halifax or Lancaster. The crews of the latter two were quietly encouraged if they were on a raid that included Stirlings, because they would catch far more of the flak. Statistically -- if a Lancaster or Halifax were hit and going down, more crews from the latter survived -- the escape hatches were easier to get to, it would seem, and many would say it was better built. My father was an Air Gunner on Halifax BIII, 77 squadron from February 45 onward ; he and his crew firmly believed the aircraft was the equal of the Lanc. If the flawed Manchester is considered to be part of Lancaster development, its history is not quite so golden. All in all, Dark Skies runs true to form again. Unwatchable.
@bassetdad437
@bassetdad437 Ай бұрын
I did see a Stirling and a bit later a B-17, Dark Skies uses a shotgun approach, show enough clips of bombers and somewhere you will find what you're looking for.
@gumpyoldbugger6944
@gumpyoldbugger6944 Ай бұрын
I gave up at the 3 minute mark.......these guys are right wankers....no idea why I am still subbed.
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
@@bassetdad437 Pretty certain there was a Bf-110 in there somewhere, too. But as you say, they use a shotgun approach and after 1m 25 secs here I am, in the comments.
@CiciOzkup-rg8ld
@CiciOzkup-rg8ld Ай бұрын
DUMB PROPA....
@jamesleonard7439
@jamesleonard7439 Ай бұрын
I'm not a fan of this channel , i myself only lasted a couple of mins. I recommend Greggs planes, trains, and automobiles.
@williamkennedy5492
@williamkennedy5492 Ай бұрын
A good friend of mine did three tours on Bombers and also flew special ops with Stirlings , His Halifax was shot up over Germany, he told the crew to bail out but they elected to stay with the aircraft, On touchdown the gear gave out and the aircraft cartwheeled down the runway, he survived his crew were all killed in the crash. He kept the clock from the crash, 6 months later after recovering he was back on ops with Lancs, Such very very brave men , Some interesting aircraft shown .
@josega6338
@josega6338 Ай бұрын
What a pity these british airmen were brave, but fought in a criminal war against mankind
@captaccordion
@captaccordion Ай бұрын
Wow! This channel is notorious for mismatching the images and dialogue, but this one is pretty exceptional. In the first 90 seconds, as we hear about the Merlin engined Halifax, we get footage of mostly radial engined Halifaxes, one or two Merlin engined ones, a Short Stirling, an Avro Manchester, a Lockheed Hudson, a Boeing B17, and a couple of others I couldn't pick. Way to go! Later on, we naturally get more of the same with the addition of Mosquitos and a prewar German bomber, and when the dialogue tells us of the introduction of the radial engined Halifax, what do we see? A Merlin engined one!
@Frieghtliner1975
@Frieghtliner1975 Ай бұрын
So… you can do better ? Wonderful !! I look forward to your videos.
@brunozeigerts6379
@brunozeigerts6379 Ай бұрын
Including a Ju86... something I don't recall ever seeing footage of. (had a model of it)
@davidpugh796
@davidpugh796 26 күн бұрын
Yet, these are still some of my favorite videos
@curiousuranus810
@curiousuranus810 Ай бұрын
Apart from the lack of footage, it's also a little unfair to compare the 1939 MkI Halifax to the 1942 Lancaster - Yorkshire apples and Lancashire oranges.
@davewolfy2906
@davewolfy2906 Ай бұрын
There are NO oranges in Lancashire! Born there, seen there, done there. As for Yorkshire apples .......
@ronhall9039
@ronhall9039 Ай бұрын
@@davewolfy2906 In Roman times they grew grapes in York... but I digress.
@curiousuranus810
@curiousuranus810 Ай бұрын
@@davewolfy2906 There are oranges in lancs, but as you know, you don't want them anywhere near your mouth.
@davewolfy2906
@davewolfy2906 Ай бұрын
@@ronhall9039 the Romans brought apples and rabbits to these islands. Are you making some comment about anti- global warming?
@davewolfy2906
@davewolfy2906 Ай бұрын
@@curiousuranus810 mmmmmm! Interesting stuff comment
@andypandy9013
@andypandy9013 Ай бұрын
My Great Uncle Jack was an RAFVR Pilot before the war. During the war he flew a full "Tour" of 30 missions as a Halifax pilot, was sent to Canada to train new pilots, returned then flew another one and a half tours before returning to Canada as a trainer again. He never had anything but praise for the Halifax so, I suspect, would have been shocked at you describing it as a "Flying coffin".
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Ай бұрын
The term Flying Coffin was actually mentioned in official reports written within Bomber Command as regards the early service life of the aircraft!!! The early Merlin powered ones had some really nasty vices, like going out of control if they lost an outer engine.
@andybryson3887
@andybryson3887 Ай бұрын
Some of the Halifax clips shown seem to have radial engines, not the Merlin as described in the video. Indeed, as per Wikipedia, the standard power plant for the Halifax was 4 × Bristol Hercules XVI 14-cylinder air-cooled radial engines
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
The early marks of Halifax (BI and BII) were powered by Merlin engines. The Bristol Hercules powered Halifax BIII weren't introduced until January 1944.
@tonyunderwood9678
@tonyunderwood9678 Ай бұрын
likewise, I've seen a few photos of Lancs fitted with radials.
@greenthing99100
@greenthing99100 Ай бұрын
A fine assortment of aircraft, just a shame so few of them were actually Halifax in the correct chronological order... Bizarre.
@Frieghtliner1975
@Frieghtliner1975 Ай бұрын
In fairness… smart phone recordings are hard to come by from the 1940s.
@richardcook6980
@richardcook6980 Ай бұрын
I totally agree there is plenty of footage of Halifaxes, it makes me wonder who compiles these videos
@davewolfy2906
@davewolfy2906 Ай бұрын
This video, is an utter mess.
@alanmoss3603
@alanmoss3603 Ай бұрын
Rather than show the wrong aircraft in these videos just show photos between clips. We want to see the actual planes described - not 'stand-ins!'
@Buzzkill-wn7tf
@Buzzkill-wn7tf Ай бұрын
Have not finished watching yet but gotta say, used to golf with 3 gents from the RCAF who were air vets. Spit mech, Lancaster gunner and a Halifax pilot. Once I got to know them after many early morning rounds (walking--what legends at their age), stories were shared. The Halifax pilot was shot down twice over enemy territory, captured once (briefly) and managed to get back in the cockpit for some final missions. Unbelievable guys and so damn modest. Thanks to Canadian service!
@none941
@none941 Ай бұрын
Quality is not a hallmark of this channel!
@user-og1ux8nr3i
@user-og1ux8nr3i Ай бұрын
Then don’t watch
@nathangoshawk
@nathangoshawk Ай бұрын
​@@user-og1ux8nr3iwith an entertainment channel I totally agree but a supposed history channel that is just a stream of incorrect information, criticism is justified.
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
@@user-og1ux8nr3i Are you married to one of the production team? Otherwise, why defend such dross?
@user-og1ux8nr3i
@user-og1ux8nr3i Ай бұрын
@@ThePhoenix198 -- I enjoy the channel. It’s not perfect and neither am I
@richardbeattie7259
@richardbeattie7259 Ай бұрын
No mention of the fact that the B17 was a much older design first flying in 1935. It had a large crew of gunners but without any powered gun turrets and carried a modest load of fairly small bombs. The Halifax was a perfectly good bomber once they fixed the tail fins but was outclassed by the superb Lancaster which could carry the Tall Boy and Grand Slam bombs. Neither the B17 nor the Halifax could carry the 4,000 lb Cookie. The Dark Skies man gets his facts wrong, uses a random selection of photos and speaks as if he is being chased by a mad axeman.
@nickdanger3802
@nickdanger3802 Ай бұрын
"without any powered gun turrets" Source ? Avro 683 Avro Lancaster B.1 Special 32 Aircraft were adapted to take first the super-heavy (12,000 lb, nd) ‘Tallboy’ and then ‘Grand Slam’ bombs (first use March 1945, nd) and included up-rated engines (with paddle-bladed propellers to give more power) and the removal of gun turrets to reduce weight and give smoother lines. For the Tallboy, the bomb bay doors were bulged slightly whilst for the Grand Slam, they were removed completely and the area faired over. For some Tallboy raids the mid-upper turret was also removed. This modification was retained for the Grand Slam aircraft and the nose turret was also later removed. BAE Lancaster page
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
@@nickdanger3802 "without any powered gun turrets" obviously refers to the early B17A, B17B and B17D models, none of which had powered gun turrets. Source: Wikipedia, among others.
@jasonkebic741
@jasonkebic741 Ай бұрын
Odd you mention that the Halifax lead from 2 engine bombers to 4 engine bombers. But the Sterling bomber predates the Halifax and is a 4 engine bomber. The Halifax was built to the same specs as the Manchester twin engine bomber that would later gain 2 extra engines and become the Lancaster.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Ай бұрын
The Stirling was designed as a Bomber / Transport to a total different specification to that which the Halifax / Manchester was designed to meet. It was a much bigger aircraft.
@johnearle1
@johnearle1 Ай бұрын
The Halifax actually was a more adaptable design than the Lancaster. It was like Chris Rea, it got lost in the shuffle.
@ronhall9039
@ronhall9039 Ай бұрын
Chris Rea is not lost - loved in the North East. I get your drift though.
@johnearle1
@johnearle1 Ай бұрын
@@ronhall9039 The Chris Rea quip was from Gavin and Stacey when Bryn heard Coming Home For Christmas and said “turn it up, I love Chris Rea. He always gets lost in the shuffle.
@ronhall9039
@ronhall9039 Ай бұрын
@@johnearle1 Cheers mate - I missed the context there.👍
@phippsa3
@phippsa3 Ай бұрын
Little short of Halifax footage
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
... to put it mildly!
@Paganitzu
@Paganitzu Ай бұрын
Amelia Earhart agrees
@daystatesniper01
@daystatesniper01 Ай бұрын
RAF Lisset still has some buildings etc' still standing , the wind turbines that now occupy the site are all named after the named Halifaxes that flew from there , also visit the Yorkshire air museum at Elvington near York , here they have a Halifax built from parts etc' done up as Friday the 13th
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 Ай бұрын
Hopefully those wind turbines will be gone in ten years when we realize what an abject mistake green energy is. Otherwise we're toast as a people.
@hamishosborn8384
@hamishosborn8384 Ай бұрын
The rear section of the RAF Elvington Halifax was found having been used as a chicken Hut on a Scottish island for forty odd years after it had crashed. That aircraft was previously flown by Sq Ldr Stan Gooch DFC who I had the pleasure of knowing when I was growing up. Stan went on to fly for BOAC on Yorks then Commet and finally Boeing 707's on the international long haul routes. Stan always spoke very highly of the Halifax and was more than a little irritated at the aircraft being repeatedly canned by those who never flew it and yet set themselves up as some sort of expert voice.
@macswad
@macswad Ай бұрын
You actually show the RAF's first 4 engine bomber. It's called a Shorts Stirling Bomber
@colinmartin2921
@colinmartin2921 Ай бұрын
The biggest problem for British heavy bombers was the low service ceiling, because the British never had access to turbo superchargers which allow higher altitudes to be reached.
@timhancock6626
@timhancock6626 Ай бұрын
Rolls Royce Merlin engines were pretty well all supercharged, so I don't understand your comment.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Ай бұрын
A catastrophic blow to the H2S radar project were the loss of EMI engineers Alan Dower Blumlein and Geoffrey Hensby. All on board Halifax V9977 were killed when an engine fire burnt through the wing. The cause was a rocker-arm nut on an exhaust valve unscrewing. The layout of the cockpit was such that the crew could not reach for the fire extinguishers that could have put out the fire and saved their lives. The only working prototype of the H2S was on board and it was extensively damaged.
@CiciOzkup-rg8ld
@CiciOzkup-rg8ld Ай бұрын
NAZI SPY SABOTAGE....
@robredz
@robredz Ай бұрын
Alan Dower Blumlein was an early experimenter with stereo sounds some of those recordings still exist, and really should be restored and released.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Ай бұрын
@@robredz ADB was an electrical engineer who started with the Gramophone Company and then at the newly created EMI. Invented stereo in 1927 and high definition TV in the early 1930s. He was at Bletchly Park for the development of the H2S radar at the same time as Alan Turing. There's no record of them having met.
@robredz
@robredz Ай бұрын
@@channelsixtyeight068_ Would be amazing to hear those experimental stereo recordings.
@channelsixtyeight068_
@channelsixtyeight068_ Ай бұрын
@@robredz They were either him or another engineer walking from one side of the lab to the other to demonstrate the stereo image. What prompted him to start experimenting was attending a theatre with his wife and complaining about the sound quality. I'm only going by memory.
@highjump81a
@highjump81a Ай бұрын
I think the author is confused and in error. The Hampden was the aircraft known as the 'Flying Coffin'. [They used to joke 'Take off speed 90kn, Cruising speed 90kn, stall speed 90kn']. My mother's boyfriend (not my dad) piloted a Hampden at the start of the war before moving on to the DH Mosquito. His Hampden squadron once lost a tail gunner to turbulence on landing approach, bounced out of his turret at 100' AGL.
@thesnazzycomet
@thesnazzycomet Ай бұрын
I think the Halifax Mk III onwards look very nice indeed
@dmanduff9108
@dmanduff9108 Ай бұрын
Calling a cursed bomber Friday the 13th is one of the most metal things I've ever heard of in aviation 😂
@davey7452
@davey7452 Ай бұрын
Fun fact at end of WW2 the RAF used B 24 Liberators for long range reconnaisance but under lend lease it is property of the US government at wars end they either return it or pay for it the British returned it. To replace it they used the Halifax.
@aussie807
@aussie807 Ай бұрын
It was not considered that by the crews, my old friend Bruce Douglas Bancroft, a Halifax pilot, would take exception with your statements
@user-vn5do3tl8d
@user-vn5do3tl8d Ай бұрын
A good example can be found at RCAF Museum Trenton Ontario
@peterfarrell520
@peterfarrell520 Ай бұрын
my best mates dad flew 2 tours in halifaxs and he loved them. prefered them over lans any day. once they got the motors they were designed for. flew for 462 and 466 squadrons r.a.a.f last tour was pathfinders. his crew all survived and he was awarded dfc and bar.
@MaxKrumholz
@MaxKrumholz Ай бұрын
USSR almost not manufactered Petlyakov Pe-8 - only 4 engine bomber in USSR - ONLY 93 was Created
@vbprogman
@vbprogman Ай бұрын
The Short Sterling was the worst. lf they had listened to De Havilland when they suggested a light weight twin engine fast unarmed bomber early in the conflict, then thousands of young airmen might have survived the war.
@georgianrooms
@georgianrooms Ай бұрын
I live a few miles away from Lissett. It now has wind turbines on the site and the representatives of the RAF who attended the opening ceremony said it was nice to see propellers on the site again after so long. There is a wonderful memorial on site to the crews who were killed........
@plantfeeder6677
@plantfeeder6677 Ай бұрын
They're idiots. This "propeller"(wrong word of what they are)will be the misery of us all in the future if we don't stop this insanity now.
@kevanhubbard9673
@kevanhubbard9673 Ай бұрын
Just realized how similar looking the Halifax is to the B 24 Liberator.
@rubberduck05
@rubberduck05 Ай бұрын
The 2 engine; Mosquito was one if not The best fighter bomber aircraft of the war
@zh84
@zh84 Ай бұрын
When the Germans finally managed to shoot one down, Goering himself went to visit the wreck. He shouted at the assembled Luftwaffe and aircraft industry dignitaries "Why can't you build me something like that?!"
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 Ай бұрын
I often wonder if Bomber Command had decided to go for thousands and thousands of Mossies instead of heavies they’d have been less shite?
@davidbeattie4294
@davidbeattie4294 27 күн бұрын
There is a restored Halifax, NA 337, on display in the air museum at CFB Trenton, in Trenton Ontario. It was recovered from the bottom of a lake in Norway to serve as a tribute to the sacrifice of Canadian airmen serving in 6 Group (RCAF) Bomber Command.
@emaheiwa8174
@emaheiwa8174 Ай бұрын
It gave me my best matches on War Thunder, nothing but love ❤
@clivestirling5094
@clivestirling5094 28 күн бұрын
The HP Halifax, like the Lancaster, were originally designed to be 2 engine bombers. Powered by 2 of these RR 24 cly. Vulture engines.(2, V12 engines joined together).They were technically very complex and unreliable.The only RAF Heavy Bomber to go down on the drawing board from the start, with 4 engines, was my name sake, the Short Stirling Bomber. Having said that, out of every 10 heavy bombers built by the British during WWII , 4 were Halifaxes.
@normmcrae1140
@normmcrae1140 Ай бұрын
There are currently 2 Flying Lancasters, and multiple non-flying ones, but NO Halifaxes were preserved. There is one currently restored in Canada - NA337 at the National Air Force Museum, and one in process of restoration for the Bomber Command Museum of Canada (Halifax 57). Neither will ever fly.
@gavincampbell2862
@gavincampbell2862 Ай бұрын
I doubt the one at Elvington, Yorkshire HR792 (a Halifax III) will ever fly either.
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
There's a rebuilt one at the Yorkshire Air Museum at the former site of RAF Elvington. It's a bit of a Frankenstein's monster assembled from a plethora of sources, including the wings from a Handley Page Hastings but is displayed in the livery of "Friday the 13th", a Halifax B III that flew 128 missions with 158 Squadron RAF. It is not, and never will be a flying exhibit.
@foxstrangler
@foxstrangler Ай бұрын
There is also one in 'as recovered' condition in Hendon.
@JohnSmith-bx8zb
@JohnSmith-bx8zb Ай бұрын
Interring to note that the Halifax B 111 V1 had a top speed of over 300mph.
@Jones607
@Jones607 Ай бұрын
If you’re an aircraft spotter like myself, then you don’t mind seeing footage of different aircraft types. USAAFs B-24 Liberators also had a poor rate of attrition. “Friday 13th” Halifax Bomber still resides at the Yorkshire Air Museum. As I’ve had the privilege of seeing it on several occasions.
@philiphumphrey1548
@philiphumphrey1548 Ай бұрын
The Bristol Hercules engine was definitely better for the Halifax, but early production difficulties with that engine meant that Merlins had to be used instead. The same was true of the Bristol Beaufighter. Both planes saw a significant improvement in performance when they finally got the Hercules engine. The Hercules also had the advantage of not having vulnerable radiators and being significantly quieter than the Merlin.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Ай бұрын
The Beaufighter started out with the Hercules.
@karistasogare
@karistasogare Ай бұрын
time stamp 1:26: that isnt a Halifax, it is a Short Stirling
@nigelterry9299
@nigelterry9299 Ай бұрын
Well, there's clips of 3 of my favourites. Wellington, Stirling, Mosquito.
@jonnyj00rgen
@jonnyj00rgen Ай бұрын
would love to see Videos about the french fighter bombers like the mystere and etendart or historical and modern chinese planes like the Q 5 or J10. those categories are kind of blank spaces in my plane-knowledge
@fiery1962
@fiery1962 Ай бұрын
Short Stirling at 1:24. Would love an analysis of this flying compromise. The first of the Brit. heavies to see service in numbers and much larger than the Halifax or Lancaster.
@hamishosborn8384
@hamishosborn8384 Ай бұрын
This commentary is inaccurate. The Hallibag was like most aircraft needing further development. Aircrew generally liked the Halifax and the fact it continued to serve till the end of the war was testament to its ability. Yes the Lancaster superseded the Halifax but it started off as the Manchester which was a poor aircraft but developed into the shining sword. My uncle flew Halifax and loved the aeroplane, whilst my father flew Lancaster and swore by it. Bomber Command list 56,000 aircrew the highest rate of attrition of any allied service. They were boys who became men overnight, their youth put aside to stand against the greatest evil of the 20th century.
@geordiedog1749
@geordiedog1749 Ай бұрын
My neighbour was a Halifax navigator. He liked it. He was also shot down mind. Bailed out over Holland. Got taken in by a friendly family but their neighbours grassed them up. He was made a pow and the Dutch who helped him were shot. The family who betrayed him had their house burnt down repeatedly after the war.
@blakemcleroy4812
@blakemcleroy4812 Ай бұрын
First love your channel sir
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy Ай бұрын
First what?
@user-gj8rt5gw2j
@user-gj8rt5gw2j Ай бұрын
I think it's unfair to be so hard on the Halifax. YesLancaster was the allied bomber in the European theatre of war by far, but both the Halifax and Short Stirling went on be excellent aircraft at towing gliders in the second half of WW2.
@bungee7503
@bungee7503 Ай бұрын
“Out of a hundred men on a bomber”; the problem is overloading, not German fighters.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy Ай бұрын
Let's check it out.
@BobSmith-ui4qu
@BobSmith-ui4qu Ай бұрын
It’s nice to see the King and Queen footage.
@lynnwood7205
@lynnwood7205 Ай бұрын
The aircraft assembler at 2:07, sometimes one wonders, did they ever see themselves in these film clips? And then, what became of them later?
@KevTheImpaler
@KevTheImpaler Ай бұрын
That's a Stirling in one bit of footage. The Halifax had bigger escape hatches than the Lancaster. It had better thought out defensive guns if you ask me.
@albertawildcat3164
@albertawildcat3164 Ай бұрын
My Uncle survived 36 missions flying in Halifax's as a mid-upper gunner, in 458? Bison Squadron, RCAF
@folksinger2100
@folksinger2100 Ай бұрын
No mention of the Halifax B 111 V1 that had a top speed of well over 300mph.
@ooloncaluphid
@ooloncaluphid Ай бұрын
I wonder if the video editor knows the difference between the Bristol Hercules and the RR Merlin. For the most part, the video shows Hercules-equipped planes when the Merlin is being talked about, and Merlin-equipped planes when the Hercules is being talked about.
@docnelson2008
@docnelson2008 Ай бұрын
The Halifax suffered from drag and was underpowered; however the aircraft improved as the war progressed and was able to fly faster and higher although it never matched the Lancaster with regard to its bomb load. The survival statistics for all aircraft flying over Germany were frightening so many types could qualify as "flying coffins" , not just the Halifax.
@fredericksaxton3991
@fredericksaxton3991 Ай бұрын
I so wish you could rationalize the video images with your text. I still enjoyed this video though.
@KevTheImpaler
@KevTheImpaler Ай бұрын
The biggest advantage the Lancaster had over the Halifax was its bomb bay. I am not sure exactly why, I think because of a spar that ran down the length of the fuselage, but the bomb bay had to be compartmentalised. That meant it could not carry the heavier bombs like to Tall Boy and Grand Slam. I am not sure whether it could carry the 4000 lbs Cookie bombs.
@richardvernon317
@richardvernon317 Ай бұрын
The biggest issue with all marks of Halifax was the depth of the Bomb Bay and how the doors opened. A 4000lb bomb could only be carried semi recessed in the Halifax, with a hole cut in the bomb bay doors where the bomb was located. Lancaster bomb bay was deeper as well as longer.
@BobSmith-ui4qu
@BobSmith-ui4qu Ай бұрын
Once the video gets to the 4 minute mark there are lots of Halifax film.
@Frieghtliner1975
@Frieghtliner1975 Ай бұрын
I think you misspoke. 75,000 sorties !? If that aircraft from the day it rolled off the line, did one sortie every day. She would still need an additional 120 years (from today) to complete those missions.
@user-jw3vy3kf5f
@user-jw3vy3kf5f Ай бұрын
For a moment I thought I was looking at a B24 Liberator
@abepotter9302
@abepotter9302 Ай бұрын
I wanted to hear a story about the plane on the cover with 2-1/2 (?) engines.
@ravenclaw8975
@ravenclaw8975 Ай бұрын
A very good video. Some incongruity with the visuals, but well narrated lad. I'd just like to point out that I watched an interview with a German night-fighter pilot a few years back. He stated that the Halifax could be seen from miles away on clear nights, as the exhausts each side of the engine nacelles would spit fire, illuminating the plane when it was in flight and making it easy prey for the hunters. I salute all of the brave crews from all countries who flew the Halifax and those who perished, may they rest in peace.
@nigeldepledge3790
@nigeldepledge3790 Ай бұрын
At 1:28, you have a photo of an airman posing with what looks like a Grand Slam. The Halifax couldn't carry this 10-ton bomb. Was that really the most appropriate photo you could find?
@dritzzdarkwood4727
@dritzzdarkwood4727 Ай бұрын
Did they steal the background music around the 2:00 mark from the Invicta history YT channel????
@zetectic7968
@zetectic7968 Ай бұрын
Whatever the deficiencies of the Halifax the Short Stirling flew slower & lower thus was more vulnerable.
@typhoon2827
@typhoon2827 Ай бұрын
1:28 Stirling
@justink1075
@justink1075 Ай бұрын
See wiki article on Halifax rear gunner Norman Williams RAAF. Now there’s a bloke who could shoot.
@Rangera-ct1xu
@Rangera-ct1xu Ай бұрын
oh, i forgot. what is with using the .303 machine guns thru the whole war. this weapon did very little damage to metal fighters. this choice was not caused by not having better weapons, they had .50 brownings (in american designs) and they also had 20mm cannons that were used in some other british aircraft. the use of the .303 should be considered criminal.
@paulkendall6069
@paulkendall6069 Ай бұрын
It's a shame only a Lancaster was preserved for the Battle of Britain memorial flight as a Halifax Wellington & Mosquito would have been nice too and maybe add fighters Typhoon and Tempest.
@NickRatnieks
@NickRatnieks Ай бұрын
We get a glimpse of Lord Halifax with Winston Churchill at 6:42. He officiated at the naming ceremony of the type and quoted an old English proverb " From Hull, Hell and Halifax, Good Lord deliver us!"
@richmorg8196
@richmorg8196 Ай бұрын
You have shown pictures of the Stirling without mentioning the name
@-lightningwill-6014
@-lightningwill-6014 Ай бұрын
i just turned 20 years old, if the government put this energy and funding back into our military and industry, without a doubt id join up the next day, i wouldnt miss the chance to be a part of that
@ThePhoenix198
@ThePhoenix198 Ай бұрын
Britain mobilised all its national resources for the second world war, spending over 40 percent of GDP on defence for five years, peaking at 52 percent of GDP in 1945. Currently the UK spends a bit over 2% of its GDP on defence. For comparison purposes, about 11.1% of GDP is spent on the NHS, and a similar amount on welfare. Are you really sure you want to go back to 40% of GDP being spent on defence, especially as that effectively bankrupted the UK. Not to mention the minor issue of 454,000 war dead, 70,000 of whom were civilians ...
@playasurf1000
@playasurf1000 Ай бұрын
If anything it was the Germans that steered clear of designing 4 engine bombers.
@user-dd9tc4zz8j
@user-dd9tc4zz8j Ай бұрын
Just a comment. You can’t shorten ranks into a diminutive . For example, you refer to ‘captain’ so and so, when the correct and only proper address is Group Captain. Notwithstanding the RAF/RAAF do not have a captain rank, you’ve reduced his status by 3 ranks. Always refer to ranks by their full title, eg Flight Lieutenant, Wing Commander, Group Captain, Air Commodore etc, in full, out of respect and accuracy.
@conoryates7595
@conoryates7595 Ай бұрын
What are the German planes at 5:02?
@cedhome7945
@cedhome7945 Ай бұрын
Who does the resurch on these videos? Was the info read from a 1960s comic book ....
@1959tr3s
@1959tr3s Ай бұрын
Merlin engines? Don't you ever do research? A merlin is an interesting line engine. The Halifax has radials. Just look at the photos!
@dude126
@dude126 Ай бұрын
The days of early development do not survive later year scrutiny. Hindsight is the tool of the uneducated.
@xfire7
@xfire7 Ай бұрын
All that remains of Friday the thirteenth is its nose art at R.A.F. Cosford .
@farsaijohn9544
@farsaijohn9544 Ай бұрын
Looks a lot like a b24, just thinner, 😮.jf.
@bigantplowright5711
@bigantplowright5711 Ай бұрын
Nowhere near as bad as the Stirling!
@matttownsend7119
@matttownsend7119 Ай бұрын
This channel has interesting information but it keeps having jarring disconnects in its imagery. At 7:44 the story makes a big point of a new version of the aircraft featuring radial engines, while showing a frontal pic of the aircraft with the inline merlin engines that were supposedly replaced. And the channel keeps on doing this in multiple videos that I've seen. Whatever passes for an edit process is inadequate.
@dazhigh9208
@dazhigh9208 Ай бұрын
A small note but the halifax's shown in video are not Merlin engines. they look like bristol pegusus ?
@dazhigh9208
@dazhigh9208 Ай бұрын
looks like 50/50 mix of engines.
@dennisdavis1506
@dennisdavis1506 Ай бұрын
Good stor.
@kevinclarkson7036
@kevinclarkson7036 Ай бұрын
If you are going to produce more of these videos then spend some time sourcing clips of video that has some connection to the script. Almost ALL of the visual content has no connection with the narrative AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@JackDrinkn2DollarJim
@JackDrinkn2DollarJim Ай бұрын
I'm surprised He didn't fit in a Vikers Vimey and a DH-4.
@robertluther8057
@robertluther8057 Ай бұрын
Agree whole-heartedly with mr gower regarding the quality of this channel and watched it only because of the plane involved. Pretty sorry video.
@jaymorris3468
@jaymorris3468 Ай бұрын
This vid needs to be redone, In both visuals and info. Wrong info, cmon know, its not difficult.
@pylon500
@pylon500 Ай бұрын
Oh dear, here we go again. Untold numbers of completely irrelevant aircraft portrayed, while the (droning) dialogue tries to make specific points about specific marks and models. Half of the aim of the video was to show the improvements made over the life of the aircraft, the main one being the change from Merlin engines to Centaurus engines, but just as the Centaurus is mentioned, two images of the Merlin powered version are shown... {facepalm).
@miketeeveedub5779
@miketeeveedub5779 Ай бұрын
Odd - I always thought the Halifax came out after the Lancaster, not before. To me the Halifax looked more "modern.' Goes to show looks aren't everything...
@JMLE1949
@JMLE1949 Ай бұрын
What plane we are talking about here, jumble of pictures :(
@Eddewardeke
@Eddewardeke Ай бұрын
What Merlin? In the beginning of the movie I see radial engines. As usual, interesting stories, and mismatching images. And then, at 7.36 it is mentioned that the Merlins were replacd by Hercules radials.... Merlins in the images. Please, you who make these interesting documentaries, take a lot more care of your images!
@monza1002000
@monza1002000 Ай бұрын
What four engine bombers were the Germans working on? What four engine bombers, other than the B17 were the Americans working on?
@UncleJoeLITE
@UncleJoeLITE Ай бұрын
"Flying coffin"? This is a pig's breakfast of mis-matched facts.
@BobSmith-ui4qu
@BobSmith-ui4qu Ай бұрын
To all the complaining arm chair warriors, you do better! You put in the effort that the author does to put out content then you can complain. Good effort. Thanks for video.
@user-tg3kw8ck4x
@user-tg3kw8ck4x Ай бұрын
шнауфер за одну ночь сбил 7 галифаксов.
@simongee8928
@simongee8928 Ай бұрын
No mention of the Short Stirling, Britain's first four engined bomber which preceded the Halifax into service. Poor research on this video.
@folksinger2100
@folksinger2100 Ай бұрын
What do you expect its a US video
@folksinger2100
@folksinger2100 Ай бұрын
The Sterling was liked by its crews as it could out turn a nigh fighter
@nigelwalsh804
@nigelwalsh804 Ай бұрын
As mentioned below the clips mostly were not of the Halifax, even Wellingtons. If his facts are as inaccurate then I can't be bothered to listen.
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