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How can I get a job as a pentester? Should I go to university or self-study? Do I need certifications?
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@michaelgirma6161 3 жыл бұрын

Before hitting the dislike button because you think he didn't give you a step by step guide, take the time out to look at other people's path and even his own shirt series to understand that this is the most true and sincere advice you can get. Merry Christmas🌲🌲

@edsmith6114 Жыл бұрын

Well said. Back in the mid 1990s during my teens, me and my mates were entrenched in the scene, I specialised in PBX hacking, but we had fingers in many pies, credit card fraud, calling cards, BBS/PHP exploits etc. My mate was picked up by BT (British Telecom at the time) investigations, working with Northumbria CID. Arrested in a public phone box with reprogrammed magnetic strip card as a 'credit card' all so easy back then) I got rid of everything, but two weeks after his arrest my house was raided (parents house, I was watching the cars pull up outside in my school uniform). I'd just turned 18, but my mate was 17 and technically a child, so hiis hyper strict Indian parents had to sit in the interview room with him, not cool 🤪 The original charge was conspiracy to defraud, but ultimately they couldn't pin me down, and used "illegal extraction of electricity" for using a company phone exchange without permission, as they didn't have a specific charge for it in 1996. Met some first year students on a night out a few years ago in Liverpool who were studying Cyber Security as a course, and they didn't know the basics. Zero fundamental IT knowledge. If you want to get into security, study a generic Computer Science course like I subsequently did (Northumbria CID agreed to give me a conditional caution, despite the fact we all knew I was guilty as sin, so my University application wasn't effected) and not a specialised "cyber sleuth" degree because it sounds cool. It's like kids paying to do worthless Forensic Criminology degrees because they watched a TV series, give me a Chemistry student every time.

@SkipToPlay 3 жыл бұрын

What is also important to mention: IT Security is not just pen testing. Whenever I hear something about IT security on KZfaq, it's always about pen testing. In reality, very few IT security jobs have to do with pen testing. In my experience, most jobs are in the area of analysis, engineering and management.

@Fahodinho 3 жыл бұрын

but pen testing is the most exciting i think

@LiveOverflow 3 жыл бұрын

Sure! But those jobs I’m also not super interested in. So I typically view a small subset as the jobs I’m considering. I figured that the content of this channel also only relates to this small subset. But it would be annoying to specify all the time the few areas it is applicable

@krakenmccrackface6923 3 жыл бұрын

Security architect here - THANK YOU.

@BigShez 3 жыл бұрын

@@Fahodinho matter of opinion. I think DevSecOps and AppSec is the most exciting

@NoBody-tz4fb 3 жыл бұрын

In the defense world it's all segmented, network team, virtualization, security stack, vulnerability analysis, patch management, Systems admins, ect ect. Everyone is specialized in a certain area.

@DrMolix 3 жыл бұрын

"Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans"...

@hutzig 3 жыл бұрын

I loved the t-shirts series, you have mentioned a lot o really cool talks and talked about conventions which I wish to attend someday. Also when you started to talk about your anxiety it made me realize that I'm having the same problem, it was a wake up call for me to seek for professional help, thank you

@srincrivel1 3 жыл бұрын

I don't actually know how I got to this video, but I just want to acknowledge how truthful and wholesome this video was, I thank you for your honest words on behalf of all who can hear it

@hallo002f 3 жыл бұрын

One of the best advices i've ever seen. Just cause hes honest about the path not being clear and noting can be planed to the last detail.

@Lition98 3 жыл бұрын

Not a lot of sincere people on yt about IT security advice, loved the shirt stories series hope to see something like this again

@82maor 2 жыл бұрын

Just finished watching your shirts playlist! It was pure enjoyment

@alpharussel653 3 жыл бұрын

one of the most if not the best genuine advice anyone can give . "Listen to many people's life experience and tey to adapt it to yourserlf " that was so deep. thank you for sharing your wisdom

@FuzzyLitchi 3 жыл бұрын

I really liked your t-shirt videos

@cryptonative 3 жыл бұрын

Took me a while to realise why you wore all the t-shirts. Thanks you for the series

@gauravbarotia3055 3 жыл бұрын

I would like to suggest this video for every single person who is cyber security enthusiast.

@clement6226 3 жыл бұрын

I can't agree more! Great video, I'll definitely share it! Thank you for making this video, I hope it will help people too. Merry Christmas 😊

@prabhatjoshi602 3 жыл бұрын

I really wanted this video from you !!!!!!! Thanks a lot brother.

@lightblue254 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for being honest with me, Overflow, I am in 10th grade gymnasium in North East Germany and I was unsure what to do, but I wanted to go the computer security route because I loved your videos and has a blast watching them and thought I could do what you do for a living. Even though university is 2 years away, I'm still researching about universities, about degrees and about sciences. And now I will take your advice and keep on doing it :) thank you!! Späte Frohes Neues / Late happy new year

@Mikeyymike_ Жыл бұрын

Just do it man ! Worth it in the long run

@LuXTerful 3 жыл бұрын

I loved to watch your Shirt Stories!! Very inspiring

@superbro9576 3 жыл бұрын

great advice with point no. 2 imo...love the channel cheers for everything you do man!

@anand_bhasme 3 жыл бұрын

I hope this shirt series continues.

@karthika4770 3 жыл бұрын

😂 what?

@silva_andrre 3 жыл бұрын

Great points, no matter what you do, there's no a recipe to success, getting involved and pay attention to the opportunities could be the best.

@superhero1 3 жыл бұрын

Really liked that one! Thank you, @liveoverflow!

@jprince2453 3 жыл бұрын

Throughout the year bro u haven't change on us your the best man 💯💯

@Jishin85 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this and all the videos you made! I ended up in IT Security randomly 5 years ago. When I had a chance to decide what to do, a couple of years ago, since I was interested in different paths, I ended up being an engineer/advocate for DevSecOps, which is only partially relevant with pentests. Personally I wouldn't want to work in a Red Team, although I have to collaborate every once in a while. Listening to you makes perfect sense and it's a brilliant and honest advice that I share. Also, I personally love being at home and isolate whenever I can, so I fully understand the feeling :) Thank you so much again, I've binged in two days probably one tenth of your videos and I plan to do more! I've also recommended you to some of my colleagues who aren't really sure about what they want to do and some that are boosting they want to be in pentesting but I personally don't believe they have the skills, let's see if by looking at the direct experience of what you do, something will change :)

@mae7536 2 жыл бұрын

Very well said, my Man... good advice!

@MySqueezingArm 3 жыл бұрын

Love all your work! Have a great holiday.

@hardeep.singh.1943 3 жыл бұрын

Finally an honest advice! Thank you for the video

@OthmanAlikhan 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time for making video =). I've been following your channel since you made the Pwn3 CTF series, and watching your videos is really inspiring for new comers to the cybersecurity industry. What you mentioned in particular in this video holds really true in the country where I live where most of job advice mentioned doesn't apply so well here. It's re-assuring hearing what you mentioned, and that its not me going crazy about the cybersecurity industry locally in my region.

@dominic8147 3 жыл бұрын

Omg, I've been watching your cyber security videos for a few months and that's where I recognize you, pen spinning. I'm from the US and I was never good enough for the world tournament, like you were, but I remember you made a website with someone and I placed at my school talent show because of the tutorials from it and elsewhere. That skill gave you the competitive spirit that you still use today with pen testing and ctf! What a small world!

@dominic8147 3 жыл бұрын

I just saw your "shirt stories #1" video and noticed that your pen spinning named was blurred and faces were blocked so I edited my comment. The amount of free I had in high school for pen spinning makes me think I should have starting coding earlier haha

@gameplayvideos9758 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much really helped me at the moment with cyber security career. Peace and love.

@L33nus 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on this topic. I know that there are a lot of people seeking guidence, like a step-by-step guide and like you said. The requirements changes from city to city and country to country. And the amount of roles in IT-Security makes it even harder to tell someone "this is what you have to do". I got lucky to go to a school where the management of the school is also the management of the biggest IT-security Companies in the area and they have a direct influence over which courses we should take. Also they update it for every class.

@ChelGaming 3 жыл бұрын

I really need this right now. thank you

@hichama0180 3 жыл бұрын

The thing you said about exploring options is really true!

@stephanief.2804 3 жыл бұрын

well said, another reason why i follow you and watch your videos. Honest person

@dayumnson9769 3 жыл бұрын

This video is really great man! Thanks for the good advice : )

@infosecdotexe9080 3 жыл бұрын

Highly agree with everything you said especially with designing your own path instead of trying to follow others.

@alanfinn77 3 жыл бұрын

Super insightful video and really honest and accurate!

@osum4700 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your advice I really need it 👍

@softwaretech1527 3 жыл бұрын

He is learning that's why he is a helper for every single one for free. Nice one dude.

@niteshsurana 3 жыл бұрын

Super honest, like always!!

@denizkoc362 3 жыл бұрын

There is no best advice for everyone thx for your honesty man

@RAZREXE 3 жыл бұрын

The t-shirt stories are so inspiring ❤️ I'm supposed to get a t-shirt from digital ocean for hacktoberfest 2020. Love your videos liveoverflow❤️

@tyxhq. 2 жыл бұрын

I'm in my 3rd year nursing degree, really appreciate your videos.

@aviktiwari4487 3 жыл бұрын

Love the shirt series Merry Christmas 💝🎄

@society2232 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the content you offer in your channel..all the love from 🇰🇪💯

@pierluigizagaria 3 жыл бұрын

a good advice: Stop trying to figure out how to learn a thing and start doing that thing

@haxguy0 3 жыл бұрын

Enjoy your videos. Hope you have nice holidays

@katjastrand3955 3 жыл бұрын

This field is awesome, I feel like if I just continue doung what I like I'll find the perfect job.

@TheReck12 3 жыл бұрын

This is pretty good career advice in general, In high school everyone made it seem like once you get to university and graduate you'll get a job. Then you get there and realize it's not that simple and you'll probably graduate making less than 50k with your biology degree.

@SuperBubbinator 3 жыл бұрын

Depending who you ask, IT-security is one of the parts that makes up information security. Even though I don't thing it's your audience, it is worth to mention that there is a place for non-technical positions in the field of information security! Great video!

@haloandrei 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the way you emphasised the variety of paths that take you to your goal. Your video is generic enough for any abstract career. I will suggest it to others!

@emmaraldmcclaire4006 2 жыл бұрын

i searching for the advice about what should i choose to be in the cybersecurities field n this is actually a good video, n now i know what should i choose..tqqq so muchhhh❤❤❤❤

@pwlegolas3 3 жыл бұрын

Man .. You are awesome !!! 👍

@oreofreakshake 3 жыл бұрын

Very satisfied with the "advice", I really want to see you will reach to the top, good luck!

@oreofreakshake 3 жыл бұрын

@WILLIAM POLO VALERIO I saw Eli's video but ty for sharing tho

@Jango1989 3 жыл бұрын

Lots of pentesting companies today have internship and graduate schemes. These are open to anyone who is passionate about learning to become a hacker. As others have mentioned, there is also more to IT security than just penteting. Interestingly, LiveOverflow's channel has almost nothing to do with pentesting (for example, I've never once seen a video about waiting for creds and firewall changes XD). This channel is a lot closer to bug bounty research. Don't get me wrong I love this channel so much and have learned so much from the videos here and watching these videos will definitely make you better at IT security regardless of part of the field you are in. The point I'm trying to make is that IT security is very broad and there are lots of career paths. The most important thing is that you are passionate and that you choose a path that you love doing.

@Kuchenklau 3 жыл бұрын

"Reflect on your life!" - I should stop watching KZfaq and continue studying. Thanks!

@ShawShank-kr9wq 3 жыл бұрын

KZfaq is a great tool for studying when you use it properly

3 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation. The most important is to learn how to learn.

@robbie2044 3 жыл бұрын

Good video. And the statement that everybody is different and has a different path in front of them is 100% correct. There are people who will thrive in binary, some in web, others in network, etc... Most of other youtubers have very simple formula: "LEARN THIS NOW", "GET THIS CERT NOW" and similar... People eat it up of course and probably lot of them regret enrolling when they realize this isn't for them. There is also a very harsh truth that not ANYBODY can become a cyber security guy and get a job. It looks very appealing but if you don't have a certain wiring in the brain, you just won't succeed. It is same as being a doctor, lawyer or whatever else. Not everybody can do it. But if you can do it, it will come to you naturally and not being "forced" to do it.

@theohallenius8882 3 жыл бұрын

There are two major types of IT security, defensive security and offensive. One is more theoretical about best practices of protection and just being up to date with past and most recent vulnerabilities, while offensive security requires practical knowledge of those attacks and requires more practical experience (like CTFs).

@jorgevilla6523 3 жыл бұрын

great advice!!

@clippy3656 3 жыл бұрын

Why would somebody hate on this series? I love it!

@shaunakchattopadhyay6254 3 жыл бұрын

Best career advice EVER!!!

@Thunder-dp7du 3 жыл бұрын

That is unique advice I agree that everybody has a different step to come into IT security as myself I came from a developer background before I move to IT security I try to surround myself with Pentester Guys and Play CTF with them and Now I become a Pentester without any certificate but make sure you can prove what you can do.

@chwaee 3 жыл бұрын

I will watch this yearly.

@karthiksk7246 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is gold

@DHIRAL2908 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!!!

@orangeoranges11 3 жыл бұрын

wait why do people hate on these videos? i think they're neat and helpful

@0xsudip892 3 жыл бұрын

You are my inspiration 😀

@justknot4481 3 жыл бұрын

most important you need to be hungry for new stuff learning , play with it 👍🏻🇩🇪

@SwapnilSingh4u 3 жыл бұрын

very well said

@mofokenginnocent6378 3 жыл бұрын

hahaha play ctf for the whole summer is Christmas but im caught up here while writing my webapp good looking out

@The.IT.Apprentice Жыл бұрын

Good watch cheers!

@SamGib 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just started pursuing Cybersecurity degree and heard from my advisor that the curriculum changed like 3 times in 2 years.

@9mmisahighcaliberround546 3 жыл бұрын

If you don’t have experience in cyber security it’s best to major in CS or General IT.

@Ms.Robot. 3 жыл бұрын

Very well said. 😍 I like ❤.

@einsjannis 3 жыл бұрын

I loved the T-shirt series

@SkeerdAint 3 жыл бұрын

Your GoogleCTF videos were recommended to me the other day and I was really intrigued that there IS actually such area which was almost never mentioned in the university I was in. I was taking degree which, by default, leaning more towards Software Engineering. I feel like I'm pretty late on learning IT security, even though I know it's a quite young area. I'm not the smartest person, I know some freshmen do a better job in IT sec than I do, and it kinda made me feel rough to know that I will compete for a career against him and almost certainly going to give him the place. What do you think about a wider career options, some of which are hardly related to ITsec?

@mkesenheimer 3 жыл бұрын

I recently got a job as an IT security consultant, and I never really prepared for that position. I even got a PhD in a very different field (particle physics), and yet I am now a pentester. I totally agree with you. This industry is fairly new and people get hired that have different backgrounds. My advice on this topic: Show interest and learn coding. This is what helped me to get this job.

@KakashiHatake-jz4bu 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Matthias I was just curious as to why the switch from physics to infosec?

@mkesenheimer 2 жыл бұрын

@@KakashiHatake-jz4bu Don't get me wrong, physics is an insanely interesting field and I liked my work. At the time I finished my PhD I saw no opportunity to get a job in a science related area. Usually, jobs at universities are very rare and you have to be very lucky to get a foothold there. In addition, jobs at universities are not exactly family-friendly. So I looked around for other options. A job offer in infosec came at just the right time, as I was already interested in the topic beforehand.

@KakashiHatake-jz4bu 2 жыл бұрын

@@mkesenheimer Right on. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I'm interested in physics as well but am working in IT at the moment and so infosec also happens to be on the radar. Hopefully I'll have some clarity before returning to school.

@cyber971 7 ай бұрын

@mkesenheimer which programming language do you prefer?

@mkesenheimer 7 ай бұрын

@@cyber971 I like programming in C and C++. In my opinion, python is cool to get started, however python projects and their dependencies are a real nightmare to maintain.

@stargrabbitz6726 3 жыл бұрын

From pen spinner to pentester, not much development between the two ngl

@Infernoh 3 жыл бұрын

lol

@positivemelon7578 3 жыл бұрын

just want to say I really enjoyed the t shirt series

@ncb4_69 3 жыл бұрын

thanks and love ya, and my dear senpai-san too!

@YouInDavid 3 жыл бұрын

This was great

@Origameasy 3 жыл бұрын

Haha great idea to wear the 24 t-shirts! 😂

@pulse5863 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@maddoggLP 3 жыл бұрын

I study IT Security in Germany but I know a lot of guys at my workplace who didn't even study computer science but are brilliant analysts.

@jara7428 3 жыл бұрын

I usually hate to post these kind of comments but here we go: I’m 15 currently really interested in learning ethical hacking, I always try to learn but I can’t really focus on certain thing or follow a certain learning path, I’m learning from vids line these because I think it is more important for me to learn this type of information than other stuff also I am from a country where hacking and computers aren’t very popular but I have self taught my self a lot about computers, as I’m getting close to choosing my high school topics or classes, I am very confused and lost. But vids like these are very nice and enjoyable. Thanks for the vid.

@jara7428 3 жыл бұрын

@@00O3O1B thanks mate, will set a goal in this winter break to start learning

@zedd__3495 3 жыл бұрын

Love you bruh

@anshshah2022 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your 1 million dollar knowledge

@Kisaker 3 жыл бұрын

Good advices, pal. Flexibility is gold when it is intelligently applied. ;)

@43615 3 жыл бұрын

Fortunately for me, my city of 60000 people (Offenburg, DE) happens to have a university that offers Bachelor's and Master's degree programs in IT Security. Looks promising!

@mountymounty5375 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome guy!

@TheCreative1798 3 жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on cyber security reports? How to make them? What to focus on? And things that noob like me wouldn't think of. Any chances?

@kirito8604 3 жыл бұрын

merry christmas

@anand_bhasme 3 жыл бұрын

I am missing this series.

@kjartannn 3 жыл бұрын

Well timed

@katorea 3 жыл бұрын

I actually stopped studying medicine after 5 and a half years, 1 year ago, this december I might get my first offer as a pentester (Even if I don't, it has been a good ride) You and your channel have been a great deal for me, thank you kindly!

@proxy2743 3 жыл бұрын

after just a year? how tho...

@mayurbn230 3 жыл бұрын

@@proxy2743 possible if there's nothing else to do the whole year