I was thinking about such cable when watching the video. :-)

This is exactly the first thing that popped into my mind. I was like, "What's stopping you from using a USB-C extension?'

I was wondering about that. As he was saying that you can’t move the NUM pad, I was sitting here wondering why you can’t just get a cable.

Hmmm Short Circuit is hit or miss, sometimes they exclusively tell the product without a single added opinion like the Anker Webcam that was very pricey and still looked very bad and they did not bother to say anything but the product. Yet here he was being super nit picky about every detail, so what is it, an uboxing channel or a review channel!? If you do it with this video, do it with all of them...

@@stormblaz82 Was it a sponsored video sponsored by anker?! then yes I would take that with a big handful of salt. But something like this that was reviewed but not sponsored by them yeah that I would trust or at least trust more. Still it's best to do some due diligence and actually check out other reviews if you feel like you want a second or third opinion.

@바비 소녀들.🇰🇷 preach

wow what a life u got for being so into keyboards

I also have an everest Max from the Kickstarter, I wonder if the extension cable wasn't included with the smaller Numpad, or if it's not compatible at all?

I'm disappointed they didn't try a high speed USB of their own. IF you can then this would be amazingly modular. (I'd like to see a function module as an option but I know I'm weird.)

@@zebedeesummers4413 me too tbh, was also surprised that there was no mention of using the other “spare” usb C for charging / pass through with other devices and if not why not? As I appreciate the ability to plug it in in the most convenient / aesthetic position but I would also like to utilise them other ports for charging my Phone/ speaker / smart watch etc or plug in a usb memory card/usb adaptor etc. I do like these videos but I sometimes find that they try so hard to avoid making it a review so much that they can miss other details which might be pertinent to the consumer.

@@jakwadd I agree, they often feel like 60% of a review in an awkward spot between at a glance and a full review. Don't get me wrong LTT content is consitantly good this is feels like its between two sweet spots.

@@zebedeesummers4413 yeah they are quite open that they are sponsored videos but they don't quite hit the same as true LTT content due to being semi restricted in their content. The "vibes" feel a bit off to me as it's like they are not trying to shit on a product but also not always prepared to praise it fully either, which sometimes leave me a bit 50/50 about some products and still not clear on if it's worth buying etc. P.s. this isn't a dig at the staff / presenters of these videos as they are all great and it's good to see other members of LTT.

i think what he meant by that was that the numpad should have a different cable that runs directly to the pc. idk

@@numa_kai I think you’re right, because that’s what the normal/full-size Everest numpad does

@@7DegreesOfFreedom I think it would be silly to do that though, considering if you just plug it into the keyboard you get to keep an extra USB free on your PC instead of using it for the numpad individually.

@@7DegreesOfFreedom the keyboard already has that function though ?

@@7DegreesOfFreedom huh? It's already got a male USB C on the num pad that connects to a female USB C on the keyboard. Are you connecting the numpad to the computer on it's own? The complexity added to plug it into the keyboard is negligible.

keyboard flex is pretty much irrelevant, I don't know why ppl care so much about it. Maybe for some $30 boards, but anything above that won't really twist

Left numpads are superior, full stop

Buy a southpaw75

Left numpads are very cool

@@paklekj4429 Or the keyboard in the video?

@@Xfade81 southpaw75 is superior for left numpad wanters

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They know they are not fooling any enthusiast with this, it's just marketing to increase the price. It is not actually for keyboard enthusiasts, it's for gamers, and this channel is like an ad platform for this kind of stuff

@@ronakparikh tbh it's still much better than what was coming out a few years ago

@@ronakparikh it's also a major step up for a "big company" to do something this decently. Obviously the enthusiast market is going to want to do things themselves, because that's the point of the hobby, where you have something you can really feel good about because you custom tuned it yourself and did all these mods and hard work to make a nice board. This is just for the gamers who don't want a shit board with super rattly stabs and stuff but can't be bothered to actually do a custom keyboard

@@JC-0108 There is nothing revolutionary here, it is a cheap $50 gaming keyboard with a 1 cent foam and bad lube job for $140. Many pc gamers have built their own computer so I think they are capable of doing a couple mods on their own. This is a really bad value when you look at boards like the gmmk pro or the recent qk65, I would rather save up for those. What I am trying to say is that there are budget $50-$75 gaming keyboards and there are $200-$350 entry level enthusiast keyboards and the $75-$200 range in between is a waste of money but that seems to be the price range this channel is focused on, maybe because that is the high margin garbage with the biggest profits?

@@ronakparikh at the same time, how many options are there for full-sized, backlit, hotswappable keyboards out there? It's this, the Glorious GMMK 1 (the 2 is a 96%) the EVGA Z15 and the Hexgear Impulse. Most keyboards in the space are 60% or TKL, and not backlit, especially on the higher end. Unless there's some miracle option I don't know about, the options for this field are pretty limited, and the Everest might be the best we can get.

True, I have to input PIN codes often enough that no numpad is quite annoying. I have a 13" asus with the numpad that pops up on the trackpad. I feel like that's the best way to fit a numpad on a small laptop, because you usually don't use it but when you do you it's decent. While not nearly as tactile as a physical numpad, it's still much better than using the top number row.

Funny, I dread numpads on laptops because I hate having to be skewed in relation to the screen. I even have a separated numpad for those times I need it, but I do like no numpads on my laptops! On desktops, otoh, it's full keyboard always.

I use the function keys way more than the numpad, and the keyboard doesn't have any.

@@MacchiStrauss I've had two laptop TouchPads fail on me in my life, which required the use of the numbpad for mouse keys. Maybe I'm just unlucky because it happened to me twice now (and no, it was never liquid spillage or anything obvious like that). So now I require TouchPads on laptops specifically in case this happens.

@@jort93z It does have them it's just under a layer. Pressing fn + 1 isn't any harder than pressing f1. Once you get a QMK compatible keyboard you have as little as 30 keys and still have every single function of a full size keyboard. Having everything right under you fingers instead of reaching for stuff feels great.

This! I'd love to see some fully custom builds in the future was well especially with all that CNC gear they have now.

Yeah I was wondering that too. I think he meant full size but TKL is exactly what you described. Still a good review or an interesting board!

he also called flat-flex PCB a ribbon cable

its a TK!

Yeah, It's not a TKL. A TKL has the arrow keys + Del, home, PgUp, etc, and does not have the numpad.... Also, I don't know if he noes, but it is also not a 60% because it does have the arrow keys. It's a 65%.

@@mikeebt correct 60% doesn't have arrows

@@mikeebt The line between 60% and 65% is pretty blurry sometimes. I have what is technically a 60%, since it doesn't have an extra key column on the far right, but I put arrow keys on it by having weirdly sized keys on the bottom right

@@luca_sbll oh i see!

I really want to know about the flashlight enthusiast community now.

As much as I love the keyboard hobby, I think coiled cables look ridiculous and all the silly keycap sets with extra symbols or several colors and awful legends seem really strange to me, especially with the adamant dislike of RGB within the hobby. Like, you love these multicolor weird keycaps but hate RGB backlighting?

Those giant connectors can sometimes be useful. Unfortunately not all boards have a USB-C connector. Especially some older custom boards might have a Mini-USB or Micro-USB connector instead. Having there be an extra connector in the cable close to the device means that one can just change the device end of the USB cable from e.g. USB-C to Mini-USB instead of having to run a whole new USB cable when swapping boards. However, most of the time they are just used for looks.

Do gaterons work for it

Any issues with it or the software? I looked at the Everest Max a while back but the subreddit had a few people saying the software was buggy and customer support being difficult with issues with QC/hardware faults. Love the idea of it (especially the modular screen/rotary dial and media keys) but wary of new companies/early adopter issues.

@@superliljohn91 i've had the everest max for a couple months now, the software is a bit iffy and not always very responsive but it does the does it needs to do. On the customer support, i had a faulty numpad (it didnt want to update the numpad's firmware) so i send an e-mail to mountain, i got a response the next day and they asked for more information about the issue, after having send a couple e-mails back and forth they asked me to send the logs from base camp software, my numpad was faulty, they send me a new numpad right away and got it the next day (this all took about 4 days in total which i dont think is that long), all in all, i had no issues with the customer support although i do see other people having some issues.

​@@joey7183 Thanks for taking the time to reply in detail, I really appreciate it. Personally I don't mind iffy software so long as I can set it and forget it. My main barrier has been hardware issues like yours I keep hearing about (I'm sure it's just a case of looking for the fault in the egg so to speak). I've had a lot of bad luck/poor experiences with hardware companies recently and trusting a company that might not be around to even support their warranty is a concern when hearing about hardware issues (especially one with a £250 price tag). Selfishly I hope that when I come to choose a replacement for my current KB there'll be more Everest owners or people following their design footsteps. Sorry for rambling.

@@superliljohn91 yea ofcourse, glad to help! I do understand that u might not want to go for it, i suppose everyones standard is different in that regard. And yes, the software is set and forget as far as im concerned, i use the media dock screen for the time and ive set up i think only 1 button on the numpad itself. U have quite alot of customization for the rgb although it isnt as polished as otuer brands imho, though, very useable. If u have any other questions or things u wanna know, just lemme know.

@@superliljohn91 I haven't had any issues, but if you uninstall the base camp software the buttons with the tiny media screens don't work. It also gets dusty quite easily

yeah... facepalm

Definitely not everyone's cup of tea. Personally I notice he makes very matter-of-fact statements sometimes, when IMO there's a lot more nuance to those topics than he lets on, and sometimes he'll miss stuff that seem obvious, like just using an extension cable for the numpad to fix one of his gripes (which again comes back to him making matter-of-fact statements). Aside from that though, I do agree that he makes things interesting and engaging, so hopefully he can iron out some of the issues I've personally noticed, cause I would love to see more keyboard videos on the channel.

@@henderhex yeah actually i feel you on that a bit bro. I at least he keeps presenting and perfecting that craft

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Glad you enjoy it!

My thought exactly. It's a pretty simple fix

It would need to be female to male, but that should work

@richtea78 How would it know?

@richtea78 That’s not true. I got the Everest Max and there was a small female to male usb-c cable in the package. You can use that to connect the both. It shows up in the software as if were directly attached to the main part but otherwise works fine. I think it’s something about needing a cable with all pins.

@richtea78 What do you mean by normal usb-c cable?

he doesnt even know a flat-flex PCB isnt a ribbon cable, ima guess not a mass of hardware tech confidence.

He also called flat flex PCB and plain wires ribbon cable so - not so hot on the details lol

Honestly if you already have a good 60% I feel like you'd be better off getting a separate numpad. They aren't that expensive and you can get some wired or wireless ones.

The original everest max actually comes with a cable like that, but really short at i think 15cm.

lol my thoughts exactly on the cable. I use my Affermative / lexmark model m battleship for work still

spare wheel or steering wheel or flywheel or?

And for the people that don't want an ortholinear, they can also get an F key-less 1800/96% layout keyboard. Definitely a bit hard to find, but they do exist (although for my money, the extra height from a regular 1800/96% isn't that big a deal).

This. ☝️ I recommend to put the Numpad in the middle. That gives it a nice split feel. And it makes orthos usable for me, as someone, who is used to split keyboards at this point.

@@TheDakes Yes, that's how I use mine, it's great.

I agree, a car wash will work much better for this board

Wish more companies would make that layout

@@kelvinyu6741 Yep. Though honestly, assuming the manufacturing quality is the same since I think they still sell it, I would still recommend getting the Quickfire TK. They sell it in some variations IIRC. I've had mine for 8 years. The only problems I had were my right shift led not working sometimes (though I think it was dust; it works consistently now), and the solder for one of wires to the mini usb port was loose, so I just re-soldered it. In all this time, the keys still click with no issues and the paint is as good as the day I got it.