thank you for your support!

i cant say how good it is in person.... because i dont have one :(...... yet

Giulio Personeni why is it not a great product? Whats wrong about it?

@@bluebaconjake405 build quality.

@@tillmannkleint6308 circuitry.

Xaser, thanks a lot for your support. here is the android app finally: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

God bless you teenage engineering

audio over usb is now present. (going through some older comments to reflect updated firmware, thanks!)

It all comes together pretty quickly. I've only had it a day and am getting the hang of the interface. It also comes with a little iPhone rack holder if needed.

don't knock it 'til you try it guys! might be surprised! thanks for your input! peace

it looks like this is supposed to be a more cost-effective alternative to the OP-1

Hi, I was able to get my hands on the second batch and I assure you that it is much more intuitive and fun than it may seem ... No problem to play with in transport, toilets or in your bed ... Dirsk for knobs is absolutelly awesome. Screen is optional :t his can help learn the beast at first. Personally, I really feel that this machine has been long thought with love.

teenageengineering too bad you guys discontinued the OP-1 we wanted to purchase 4 for the studios but this OP-Z has too many compromises. Not smart leaving money on the table.

great to hear josh! hope you liked it!

you're right toykeeper, thanks for your support. we love it!

I get a lot of mileage out of my OP-1. It's kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. Since it does a bit of everything, it's versatile and useful for filling gaps. And it's particularly useful as a sketch pad. I tend to draft songs there before making the full version, like sketching an image on paper before painting it on canvas. Would be really handy to have eight 12-minute tracks though, instead of four 6-minute tracks. And no electrical noise when plugged into USB. Those are the two main limitations I run into with it.

It's physical more flexible. They arrive bent.

Too hipster for that.

Yeah, I've been trying to clear that up with them for wks!! Given up with it now!! Thought at first they cudn't be so daft to make it only compatible with apple platforms but it seems they have been! No thanks TE, I'm not buying apple! Oh and to get a new Op1...tis impossible in UK at moment ! Piss poor.

Wow it's a useless piece of shit. And it costs 500 $?

how is this a useless piece of shit? I think this is more useful than my 2000$ MPC X.

Red Caoimh I nearly bought one (OP1) last year. I had a deposit on one but it got delayed twice. In the meantime Elektron launched the Digitakt so I snapped one up instead. Then the Octatrak Mk2, then the Analog4 mkii, then the Digitone. A month ago a put a deposit on the OPZ, I'm 9th in the Queue so it may be close to Xmas before I get mine.

I just read that yes you can "easily import your own samples." Nice!

yes. yes. yes.

yes, we get it. thanks for your support!

@@teenageengineering lol u guys seem fed up with these comments. Truth is shit like this just works better on ios.

@@luka9843 Id like to see you write a unity app and say that again. Its very easily adaptable to multiple systems.

@@F1n1337isnt unity a game engine and not a music app engine

Because they have to remake the software for Android and that will take a while and It's already been delayed so much.

Maybe, but at least some assurance that the software would ever be written and subsequently made available would be nice. When 5 out of every 6 mobile phone owners have an Android device, this is a glaring oversight and a massive chunk of the market currently ignored. I also get that you can't cater for every Android device but aiming for the top handsets would be a start.

not meant to be better, just budget*

@@Chris-tn9bf cheaper and smaller are two things that are better about it, and that's ok

@@jama211 true but from what i gather it does less than the OP-1

I know I can use it without the external screen aka mobile phone... But what about the plug-ins?

A fire is lit because TE chose one platform over the other.

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

Obviously you've heard something wrong then.

Adzix // VVLV Hope so too. But I did have confirmation from two owners. One managed to get 5:30 hours out off the battery. It seems to be short from the “4 Times back and forth over the Atlantic” Are you from teenager engineering? Can you confirm the more or less 48 hour battery life Thanks

it does over usb. it even has usb host so you can connect a midi keyboard straight to OP-Z for plug and play. teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/usb

They will surely surpass Apple.

lol nice

oh sure it can! teenage.engineering/guides/op-z/disk-modes#import-sounds

@@teenageengineering thanks for the answer, this is less bad. How about Android app, is it possible to let us know if its on the road map? My purchase is dependent on that.

ya thats the only thing stoping me from picking one up right now

hello, here is the android app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

thanks. OP-1 is still in production and remains our premium product. OP-1 and OP-Z are very different and can work well together.

thanks for the reply. i was just asking because i wanted to buy one and it seems it's worldwide unavailable atm. are there any production issues or do you guys work on OP-1 ver. 2 or whats the problem?

no, not internally, however respond to external velocity, and you can use the front-side pitchbend to control velocity per step.

this is a section of the free OP-Z app called 'motion' and it is a preset videopak made in unity 3d. read more about it here: teenage.engineering/products/op-z/videolab download the free companion app here: ios: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1088232296 mac: apps.apple.com/app/op-z/id1098190457 google play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7WhlK17zau1cmQ.html google play: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

the po33 is easy af to use tho if you open up the guide

Yea it’s super fun and easy

sign up to get notified here: teenage.engineering/products/op-z or check with your local reseller. thanks a lot for the support!

the double trigger situation can be fixed with deoxit, but other than that, I agree with you, hoping for an op-z field without these issues!

holding track and pressing - or + will shift all steps of the current track back and forth. so that combo is taken. not quite sure what you want to do. if you want quick access to a lot of different parameters then perhaps you could get that by using an external controller. if you mean something else then please try to specify and we can maybe come up with a suggestion. thanks for your support!

teenageengineering What about track ,play, + or - and Will change the page and you can add sounds on the different pages ?

not sure what you mean. if you want you could try to explain your idea a little bit clearer and start a conversation with our support team. maybe even send a video of yourself explaining it if it's hard to put in writing. we could then forward it to the developers. support.teenage.engineering anyway, thanks for your creativity and support!

hey man, thanks for checking in! :)

yes, sure thing. support.teenage.engineering/hc/en-us/articles/360011493874-OP-Z-is-there-an-Android-app-

@@teenageengineering Thank you 👍❤️😆🎹 then it makes sense to buy a OP-Z .🤩

At least it'll still be cheaper than the OP-1.

Hey, at least it’s LEGIT. And not some 30 bucko piano

dont be a jerry

save your money!! Bank loan for $600??

this is one of the preset projects in OP-Z

yeah that's some bourgeois shit right there "everybody can afford an iphone, right?"

@@gloverelaxis Well, if android didn't have such a shit audio system, there'd be heaps of music apps available. Try playing with a drumming app on your android and you'll be just as frustrated as I have been with it.

android has way better audio than ios

@@YasinHasan you have no idea. I have an Android phone but it's well known how bad the latency is. Get a drum app, whack the drums with your fingers and the sound will come after the sound your finger made on the screen. This is reflected in every app. iOS has very little latency and makes music apps usable on mobile.

The OP-Z app doesn't output any audio however... it just provides a GUI for the device

@Louis Smith it's not unnecessary flak. Nobody is saying they can't build for who they like. Everyone here loves what TE does and like myself have probably been waiting for ages to get a hold of their new bit of kit...only to be disappointed it's compatible with apple products only. Born of frustration nothing else. Please check today's headlines about students being forced to work in apple factories in China. Also, surely you've heard of the suicide nets around their other factories. Yes they can build for who they want, but to alienate over 50% of a potential customer base is pretty strange from a business point of view. I, like others, want it, but we can't have it.

@@redcaoimh3127 That's an interesting point you make. And I won't make any statements on the China thing as I am not knowledgeable on that and I won't be able to make a useful contribution. Just quickly googling it, however, I saw a statement from Apple spokeswoman Wei Gu: “We are urgently investigating the report that student interns added in September are working overtime and night shifts.” The supplier and had also been audited three times between March and June without finding student interns so I do not see how this could possibly be Apples fault. Again, not knowledgeable so won't say more.

@@redcaoimh3127 Additionally (and I am in no way very deep in the music industry but I do build mobile applications) and I have noticed an extreme correlation between people in creative pursuits such as music production and owning of Apple products. I find it strange that even 10% of their "customer base" use anything but iOS and macOS. Finally, if I were to build a production studio I would not even consider Android due to the technical challenges of building audio enabled applications for the platform, which are non-existent on iOS. Not a fanboy, I use and build for both. But it seems very reasonable that if you are going to build something like TE has you're only going to focus on iOS as the cost-benefit ration is much lower. If you are serious about producing music (which you arguably have to be to spend hundreds of dollars for a synth/sequencer) on a mobile OS you most likely have already invested in one of Apple's products. There are hardly any serious producing efforts on Android. But hey, I hope TE proves me wrong and engineers something brilliant for Android. I just wouldn't want to be on that engineering team :)

@@louissmit2220 suppose it comes down to trust with that story. Do you trust a PR employee of a TNC who's job is to protect the brand, an auditor of a TNC which like many auditors are too close to the business they're meant to regulate or do you trust an NGO who has discovered these practices in one of Apples suppliers, albeit a new supplier? I trust the NGO. TNCs and MNCs are very good at creating plausible deniablity (oh and tax evasion) on workers rights and pay by the way they structure their businesses so it never comes back to their door but to the suppliers, even tho its ultimately them that make the vast profits from the brand because of such practices.

@@LukeLoeffler Exactly, I thought the phone was just a display avenue. Louis and whoever please enlighten us as to how the display degrades latency ? Thanks. Looking forward HEARING your responses. Thanks for giving us all such well informed information about the product since you know so much.

hello turbo, thank you for your opinion. we encourage you to try the item in question before labeling it overpriced. your experience may very well give you a second opinion.

@@teenageengineering I would love to :) now into POs first.

No, they are not. Flimsy pieces of circuit board with useless screen and cheap sound cost like smartphones.

hello david, thank you very much for your comment. if you are into deep sequencing and portable music making in general, then we believe you are truly missing out, if dismissing OP-Z without having had a personal hands-on experience with it. if you've had a chance to test it and realised that it is not for you, then so be it, everyone has different needs and wants. the 'is this a toy?' argument has been applied by a lot of people on our products, since day one. this is ok and we will continue to push boundaries and challenge conventions. toy or not is irrelevant, as long as an instrument, or any object, offers enough value. maybe some day drop by one of our free music making workshops, and we can show you everything the OP-Z is capable of. then you can easily judge if it offers enough value in your life to motivate an investment. thanks for taking the time to read this. take care and have a good one!

That's an accurate description of every TE product. "Hey you! Wanna pay $500-$1000 for something you could do more easily, more effectively and for free on your computer? I've got just the product for you!"

You think this is expensive? Hell, the OP-1 is almost 10 years old and still costs a whopping $999... It's a very versatile, fun to use synth and lots of professional musicians use it, but it's ridiculously overpriced.

@@8BitMunky Hello hello. Yes after looking at the price it is a reasonable price. The Opi-1 was priced well when it was first released. It is a very clever piece of kit. No velocity sensitive keys are a downside but overall a good product. Now it it starting to look overpriced as time goes by. It should be reduced to at least £500 UK pounds.

DeadlyPsyduck Still cheaper than racks of analog synth gear. Much more portable too.

hello eddie, yup thanks for the input. here it is: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

you don't need to. possibly someone around you has one and you can then team up so you could get a sense of it yourself. you don't need to but you may want to. thanks for your support!

@@teenageengineering Using other's smart phones are very dangerous idea. That is a security risk. Never use those words you replied. I can't believe this.

the app isn't required. It allows you to swap sounds and give you a GUI, but the opz can operate standalone

@@noahgiom341 oh, standalone. Then this new one is lower profile than op-1 cause this one doesn't have a screen on it?

@@Jeremy-su3xy I think that's the idea

It's standalone features are amazing,what are you talking about?You don't NEED a screen,if you are willing to learn how to use it(just like any other quirky synth),you'll be adapt to it.😒😒

@@qas2644 So you can use the OP-Z to it's full ability without a screen?

Android system can't handle it. Why do you think there are no good DAWs on Android?

@@KRBY555 yeah ok I understand that, but then just say that's the reason for it to only be on IOS and don't say everybody should have it in their pockets. That's a weird statement and not true. Also they could bring it out for windows, that should be no problem,i hope they are doing that as soon as possible

hey seaZon all good, as an audio/midi sequencer and synthesizer it really does not need any display at all. 'most likely' is as far as we stretched it in this case and please do not be offended, life is too short for that. hopefully we can bring it out to as many platforms as possible, soon enough. any new ones will be announced through our website.

@@teenageengineering ok, thx for the answer. I looked a bit more into the op-Z now and yeah, it doesn't really need a display :) . Currently I'm happy with the op1 but it definitely looks interesting for the future especially if you bring software out for other platforms. I think I did calm down a bit. What triggered me was just, that the video felt like it's the most normal thing to just have it for Apple devices. Anyway I still like what products you are inventing, so keep that up ^^

it's USD 599.-

@@teenageengineering... Without a screen, or android support. So once Android is added, 799?

@@BarnacleButtock It works perfectly without iPhone or Android (not supported at the moment) ... And then, I think that few of us do not have a smartphone yet.

@annabelleshaus here is android support. still USD 599.- play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012

we respect that statement. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teenageengineering.te012 👌

Le epic fail xDdd

no, we stand alone. :) peace!

Many music apps only exclusive in ios.Look,I am an android user and I know that android isn't really into music.That's the strong point for owning an IOS device imho.

ah thank you for your input. we assure you though, once you've met any of the thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products, you'd have a wider perspective. enjoy your time man zeb. hey you got it in your name already... OP-Zeb. peace!

i use a pocket operator all the time and ive been an ableton user for years. its streamlined workflow helps me sketch out ideas way faster than i usually can with a daw. it encourages me to write different kinds of music that utilize its features

@@teenageengineering "thousands of people, young and old alike, who has had their lives changed due to experience with these products" Cue the cutesy corporate advert Ukulele and Glockenspiel music. "TE changing lives" *sniffs own fart*.