We would’ve welcomed him..😂😂😂😂😂😂 best line Isaiah. 0:55-1:15

Players today seen how the old timers without a ring are treated today.

“Lebron joined his friends to beat his enemies, Durant joined his enemies to beat his friends”

I just didn’t like the fact that it robbed us of what could’ve been a great rivalry.

It’s like Karl Malone joining the bulls after he lost, that’s the best comparison

And now KD decided it was to boring to join a superteam he will create his own

love these type of discussions, former players understand what can be going through his head when it came down to a decision. kd just wanted to win a ring. i’m glad they don’t look down on it but understand that it’s just a different mentality with this era.

The big issue with the signing was that it was the team that had gone 73-9 and had an MVP already. Plus their roster was stacked. Everyone suspected Kevin of leaving OKC but none of us really thought he would join the team that had just beaten him. That was what made the move so weak and bogus.

they need to do these shows again

He wanted a championship, I respect that but that "move" is still the weakest ever

“We would’ve welcomed him” man I love these dudes like they my uncles 😂😂😂

Didn't like it and still don't. Imagine Magic going to the Celtics after he lost to them in the finals.

isaiah was right he didnt have a bond with management. he was mad sam didnt want to celebrate around okc saying he was MVP when sam thought more about the team.

“If you can’t beat them, join them” kevin durant.

OKC lost KD the moment they traded James Harden.

If KD had joined San Antonio and won a championship or 2 there his legacy would be MUCH much greater, hell I think if he even stayed in OKC and didn't win a singe ring but still was the mvp arguably best player in the league type player for a few more years his legacy would be higher than what it is right now. It's honestly really sad to see that this man left his brother in Russell Westbrook, the city of Oklahoma that loved this man to death, he left them for the team that he was up 3-1 against and HE underperformed in those final 3 games against them, he, the last mvp not named Steph, joined said player on a 73-9 team the best record in league history, he left for the team that beat him and joined his rivals to beat his friends.

Charles Barkley might not be an NBA champion, but he's a champion in life cuz he keeps it REAL

Michael Jordan on the pistons would've been ill af. Him Isaiah mahorn lambeer and rodman with Daly as the coach? Man they would've won or made it to 4 straight at least

At 5:22 Greg had a good point that I would not have thought of…

Greg Anthony nailed it. He left for the same reason Bron left even if the moves are different. The moves are for the same reason

The worst part was it destroyed the competition for the next 2 years, I watched the Warriors that 73-9 season they were must watch T.V. playing at a whole different speed than the rest of the league, they pushed themselves to get the record then ended up getting dragged into a couple 7 game playoff series and gassed out, but they were still clearly the best team in the league they just need to shoot for more modest win totals like 67 so they stay fresh for the playoffs, so even after they lost I still thought they were the team to beat but knowing the Cavs had found a way made the next season's potential very exciting especially since OKC blew a 3-1 lead to the Warriors so there was that dynamic, even though Golden State had the edge it was still gonna be interesting to see it play out then in one fail swoop the league is flipped upside down and it took 2 years and an Achilles injury to get back to competitiveness, another decision that I think doesn't get talked about enough is Kwahi Leonards decision to leave Toronto for the Clippers, they had all the right pieces, beating the Warriors even with Durant injured was pretty impressive, now it's like Kwahi doesn't even exist anymore

Blew a 3-1 lead and joined the team that he blew it to. What exactly was good about his move?

LeBron joined his brothers to beat his enemies, Durant joined his enemies to beat his brothers

It’s just the fact he joined team that beat him

Watching CWebb’s reactions to the takes just makes me realize he deserved to be a Champion more than anybody else. As humble and honorable as anybody ever. He wanted to win the right way

looking back just thinking about kd playing for golden state makes me sick.

If he wasn’t happy with OKC he is allowed to leave , but it’s where he went to and how he did it that is the issue.

I still haven't fully forgiven KD for leaving OKC to go to Golden State.

props to giannis for staying

Its only ok when Lebum does it, he started the super team era of players in their prime.

KD made the decision for himself to go to GSW and get himself 2 rings. We, as fans of basketball, have the right to criticize his decision just as we did with Lebron. The difference here is that Lebron created a superteam. KD joined the greatest shooter of all time who was also the reigning 2x MVP, a top 3 shooter of all time, and (at the time) first team all defense player. KD at the time was a top 3 player in the NBA. No matter how you look at it, that’s too stacked. No team in history can beat them.

At the end of the day, you have to admit that Russ was a big reason for Durant leaving. Word has come out since that KD went to management and asked them to control Russ, to try to talk some sense into him because EVER important, high-leverage situation brought out the worst in Russ, when the lights were the brightest Russ tried to play hero ball, dominate the ball when you’ve got one of the best offensive players ever, a clutch player, in KD on the court. Look at how Russ played in those games when GSW came back from 3-1. In the clutch, terrible shot selection, turnovers, terrible shooting %. Durant was tired of Russ playing like HE was MJ in the 4th, asked management to address it, they couldn’t, so he was gone. He KNEW he couldn’t win w Russ style of ball, especially in a league that had become all about distance shooting (what Russ is the worst in the league at). And KD is right. Russ hasn’t left the 2nd round since, despite playing w PG13, Melo, Harden, Steven Adams, etc. That’s at the foundation of why he left. He was tired of the ball-dominant, stat padding, ball hog Russ and knew that if management wouldn’t do anything he would have to go win elsewhere. No coincidence he chose the most unselfish, ball-movement team in the league to go to. It’s all pretty obvious

KD could've went to any other team except Lebron's and people would've been ok with that. Everybody pretty much figured he was gonna leave anyway. But the fact that he went to the team that beat him, the team he was up against and should've beat is just disgusting. The warriors should not have been a dynasty. But he got his rings tho.

That “super team” only lasted 2 good years

And you guys had a segment laughing at kd for not getting a ring....case dismiss

Aye don’t worry C Webb. I’m apart of this new generation that grew up and witnessed the news of Kd joining GS, breaking out. I was at the gym and everyone on the bball court was talking about it and calling out how bogus it was for Kd to do that 😂

I imagine the league is better when it was like NBA Jam, where I could pick from any team and have stars wherever

Mike had a franchise that would build a team. KD was close to Harden and management shipped James out over a few bucks. Then, KD figured he had no shot with Westbrook. So, he left for better management, better coaching, better team work and a chance to win a title.

The fact that KD was up 3-1 against the warriors and then joins that very team that never really needed him in the first place was a weak move

Isaiah one of the best heels in nba history ever

One great example would be if Patrick Ewing had joined the bulls after he lost to them in the playoffs he faced the bulls like 5 times and only beat them once when Michael Jordan was playing baseball and Patrick Ewing was top 5 players in the NBA at that time for years

"Kevin cant beat em join em Durant"

Ain't gonna win with Westbrook as your point guard. That's why he left.

It’s akin to Jordan joining the bad boy pistons after he lost

It is called free agency. Don't hate the player, hate the game. If you can't play with teammates or management is not on the same page, leave!

KD's legacy would've been better if he joined the Wizards and played with John Wall & Bradley Beal winning a ring for his hometown of DC which was very possible, i can honestly see that team beating the Cavs in the ECF which can go either way but will definitely be a 7 game series, and then extract his revenge against the warriors in the 2017 finals this is a way better script for KD's legacy in my opinion! 🤷🏾‍♂️

im sure the old players wouldve loved to team up

Kevin mchale always keeps it real

I know this move wasn't entirely based on locale and everything. But I'm just curious, would kd have left if he was still in Seattle and the sonics still existed?

Chris webber #WellSaid i agree 💯

Grant Hill looks and sounds like Will Smith.

If your mad a guy wasn't loyal to a billion dollar trademark that would get tid of him in a heartbeat and took control of his destiny to go to a team that fit his play style and was near silicon valley. KD is a tech enthusiast and made part of his fortune investing there. Going to Golden State was a business/mind cleanse move😂

LoL if jordan went to pistons maybe they would go straight to finals upto late 90s. And maybe grant would not get injured lol

Ppl wants to defend KD by saying he left bc of Westbrook. Man cut it out. Westbrook and the rest of the team were great the first 4 games by leading 3-1. They choked as a team. Both Russ and Kevin did not trust thzeir teammates in games 5, 6 and 7. It was to Coach Donovan to put a system where everybody share the ball. Westbrook is not Jordan. If KD and all the players in the locker room had a great conversation on how they wanted to play, ofc Russ would have change. But they did nothing. KD chose the easy by join the Warriors. Yes he got 2 rings. But even in 50 years, no one would forget his choice by joining Golden State. If it was San Antonio, the story would have not be the same.

There's a difference between developing into a superteam and manufacturing one. There's no longevity it's just a hit and run.

Isiah Thomas is the most perpetually butt hurt petty person I’ve ever seen. Man, he can gold a grudge that plays into ever narrative he gives lol

The NBA sucked for the last 10 years because of bandwagon players like KD & Lebron. Giannis Antetokounmpo is a far greater Champion for staying loyal to the Bucks and winning a title with them this year.

They going to have to do 2.0 of this shit lol

The problem is not that he leaved but the team he joined

I mean he did join. But you see 2/3 he played in the finals he was finals MVP, iced the game, and SHINED out of that cast. And they lost when DURANT was hurt.

I still like KD decision til this day. He just want to play happily and do the best for himself. Free agency, trade and buyout. They are all player movement

Anybody know where to watch this full epsiode?

we always gotta bring lebron up 🤦🏿‍♂️😭 keep the conversation on kd🤷🏿‍♂️

Player empowerment is good. If you're in a bad situation you should be able to leave. The issue isn't him leaving OKC. It's about where he went to i.e golden state which was coming off a 73 win record. That was a weak move. If he had joined another good team that needed him to get over the jump, that would still be respectable. And it looks like he's only continuing the same trend. Stacking his Brooklyn team. I doubt if he'll ever win a chip that will be hard earned and respected

Greg 💯 and kd would not win with Russell and or beat lebron with refs help on okc and Russell has shown since this day he couldn't get out 1st round....

In this clip Chris Webber looks like a bored kid at a family reunion listening to his aunts and uncles talk.

Lebron was criticized for leaving the CLE Durant was criticized for joining the GSW !

Greg Anthony is 100% right. As are Isiah and McHale. If it wasn't a problem when Lebron stacked the deck then it shouldn't be one with any other superstar. How is it fair that Lebron gets to take the easy way out for over a decade now, but everyone else should stay put? KD and Golden State did nothing wrong. Neither is Brooklyn now. No fun when the rabbit gets the gun.

Lol to say KD left for the same reason as Lebron is absurd that’s blasphemy. To say Lebron left to win a championship sam as KD is ridiculous. Yes Lebron left to win a chip because he had 0 chance of winning one in Cleveland that’s a FACT. KD left to win a championship but he clearly was so close to winning one in OKC far closer than Lebron was ever in Cleveland. So you cannot use that example and say they wanted to win a championship so they both left. Lebron took Hughes Ilgauskas Snow Pavlovic to the Finals and lost to Spurs dynasty and KD lost a 3-1 lead with KD Russ Adams Ibaka Kanter Payne Waiter Roberson Collison and GSW had Curry Klay Draymond who btw everyone consider trash I don’t just saying Iggy Barnes Bogut Livingston tbh not a huge difference than Lebron losing to The Spurs. Lebron left because Celtics made a great team in the East he wasn’t gonna take them on his own and nobody was coming to Cleveland to help him Pistons were there still and Bulls and Rose were coming up and he just couldn’t compete with them while playing 80 games a year and 45 minutes a game in the playoffs and still losing while Celtics build a big 4 in Boston. Lebron had every single reason to leave Cleveland he did everything he could there and took the team as far as they could go that’s a FACT he wasn’t getting any help in a small market team in that city no chance. KD left while 3-1 up to join Curry a back to back MVP and build a one of a kind Superteam that nobody could compete with that’s a FACT. What’s far worst to me is that KD than won two chips in GSW and same people who condemn him for leaving and said it was the weakest move by a superstar and he was ring chasing and he is weak than proceed to call him the best player in the world while having a super team go figure that out.

Its like Allen Iverson leaving Philly for l.a after the finals in 2001

This is the difference between fanboys and real men. As a man there's no way I'm putting negative energy into another man's life decisions. Durant did what he thought was best for him and he whooped lebron twice. Congrats, move on. This like getting mad at a cable man for moving from Comcast to DirecTV and the situation was better for him. You dudes need a life. A real one.

Nobody blame LeBron James for losing at finals in 2007! What is Greg Anthony talking about. His toughest critics didn't blame him for losing at finals!

GA made a good point.

They only thing I didn’t like about the move is that’s the team he lost to,up 3-1,with Westbrook killing Curry

Now him and kyrie made a super team who are injury prone.

one word Kareem

Everybody wants the easy way to a ring

These guys flip teams cause that's how they did it in AAU ball. AAU calls kids up to come play with their team to just win a tournament, then he goes back to his normal team. It's normal for these new guys to bounce around. Even the top h.s. teams bring in kids from other states to play for them. I hate it but it needs to start with AAU, as far as some sort of guidelines

As a teen in hs i called kd a snake like many other people. But now that ik more abt basketball he wasn’t. Okc didnt do too great of a job with kd and Westbrook tbh. Scott brooks is trash. From 2013-15 either kd, russ or both were injured. So ion blame him for leaving. But those warriors moves were op💀🤦🏾‍♂️

It’s unbelievable how these guys just lie all show wtf ...

Imagine if the thunder would of let Russ go and kept harden sheesh

Why did this show stop?

Nobody brings up the point that KD was screwed having his team leave Seattle, a storied franchise in the Sonics. Forced to move to...Oklahoma!!? I love that he screwed over the thunder, who should've never had a team in the first place.

Great discussion here

Mj was different, with the Piston it was personal. KD was just business.

People often gloss over this part. But if the warriors win that year, does draymond still call KD from the parking lot?

Yall are still mad at KD? Wow. I bet yall were happy for Lebron to Join Miami back then though.

I’m 5 years late but I was a die hard okc fan die hard KD fan I’m not mad that he left it’s the fact u was 1 game away twice from beating that team man and u go join them bruh and just ruin the league it’s just soft bruh he coulda went anywhere but he chose the team that beat em

Wish cats listened to them

These players are weak nowadays.. MJ was always strong..

Do you guys stop making videos I loved this show

Well the Greek Freak just won with Milwaukee, no super team 😏

Both good and bad Parity is better for competition Superteams are better for viewership

Jeez man that would be like Charles Barkley (an MVP) joining a 2-time champion Houston rockets. Smh never would've happened in the 90's (Sarcasm)

KD still ain’t got no rings. Phony.

Watching this after Westbrook signed with the Lakers 😂 Revenge is a sweet dish best served COLD 🥶

He simply joined gsw to stop lebron from having too many rangs and it worked

Man let it go the Warriors needed him and he needed them, they won I have no problem. If they lost then I would have shook my head but they won.. people act like teams dont try and draft or trade foe the best chances to.win this unwritten honor garbage is silly

The last 3 MVP's (2014, 2015 , 2016) joined together on a 73 win team. why? SMDH The 73 win team before, was 3 points away from being back to back NBA champions. GTFOH Lebron's Fear Factor that stephen a talks about is real. 🤣

LeBron James never gets the blame! 2011 was definitely LeBron James's fault. But if you talk to most people there are underlying circumstances why he didn't perform in the finals