Steve Kerr so quiet he was already planning that Kevin Durant deal

Steve Kerr "are super teams great for the league ? absolutely " later gets 4 superstars on one 1 team. smart man

Kenny acting like he was a superstar 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭

Cwebb crushed kenny when he said "you talking to players who led their team..

I wonder if Steve Kerr knew he would be coaching the ultimate super team of this generation

Reggie Miller showed why he's a hall of famer. This guy showed on the court that he wanted to beat the best guys in bigger markets with a small market team. Players don't have Reggie's mentality anymore. One of my all time favorites.

Steve Kerr sitting there looking like mmmmmmmm I like the sound of a super team

C-Webb put Kenny in his place lol. "You talking to guys who had to lead their team and was on their back."

Of course Kenny is going to have that perspective. He wasn't a SUPER star so he doesn't have that same mentality. Kenny knew he NEEDED Hakeem to win a championship. To be on a SUPER team you need to be a SUPER star and Kenny wasn't one so he definitely understands trying to bounce around and get on the right team to win a ring bc thats the ONLY way he could've done it, whereas the other men were actual SUPER stars and franchise players

5:50 C-Webb making sure Kenny know he wasn't no star

Shaq made a great point at the end. Kenny just showed at the end the difference between a role player and a franchise player.

what made the 2000s era so awesome was that each team hac its own fsce of the franchise. duels where everywhere

Kenny suffers from "fuck I'm wrong but I'll keep arguing my point cuz fuck being humble" syndrome

4:19 steve kerr is just drinking his tea thinking "just wait"

Kenny's opinion came from a role players perspective, he doesn't understand the weight of a City, a state, a Franchise, on his shoulders. Steve Kerr brought up some good points from a business perspective but I agree with C-Webb; Lebron, Wade and Bosh were all in the peak of their careers, literally of the same draft class. They were supposed to be Rivals... And in case some people aren't aware - Carmelo was supposed to go to Miami instead of Bosh but was tied up contractually due to his own mistakes. These guys had colluded months, possibly years, in advance to take over the league. When people point to the old school 'Super Teams', they're really looking at organisational success through the draft and through trades. Free Agency is totally different as the team loses everything and in most cases has to start back up from scratch. This is not to say Free Agency is bad, but the manipulation of it like what happened in Miami, I believe, is a terrible precedent purely because they were all in their prime, and all Franchise players - Wade and Lebron were already future HOF'ers at that point and still in their prime.

Steve Kerr was very quiet because he knew he wasn't qualified to discuss much about this topic, Kenny Smith should also shut up

I think Super Teams made by collusion, not by the draft or good trades is bad for the NBA. It turns winning the NBA Championship into a farce. I loved how the San Antonio Spurs beat the Miami Big 3 by working as a team. Another point: take the handcuffs off defensive players. Bring back hand-checking and eliminate the no-charge zone.

This has been my favorite discussion out of all of the Open Courts...it's great to see what the veterans think on this subject.

C-Webb just killed The Jet with "Unlike you, at one point it was MY team(Kings)" that was so cold-blooded. I don't know whether to laugh or cringe.

Kenny shouldn't be in the conversation. He's a glorified role player. Go kiss Hakeems feet and leave this conversation to the superstars.

Steve Kerr shut that shit down. You can tell he has more knowledge than the rest which is why he's a great coach now

I loved Reggies comment. It's hard for small market teams to win when all the best players want to play in Miami or with the Lakers or Celtics or Warriors or maybe even Philly. That's hard to compete against

I'm here once again now that Durant is on the Warriors

Kenny was going so hard, I literally said out loud "Shut the hell up Kenny! "

The Warriors were not a super team cause Draymond, Klay, and Steph were all drafted to Golden State but Durant joining them made them a Super Team.

As fans though I gotta agree with C-Webb and Shaq here. I don't want to see best players in their prime collude to be on same teams and avoid competing against each other. I want to see them go at it year after year. That's what the game is all about

Kerr was right then and subsequently reaped the benefits of buying in now. He’s a HOF coach already from 4 years of coaching while managing a team full of future HOFers. He’s gonna get to 10 rings total before he hangs it up. Fantastic person and coach

Kenny talking like he was a 1 or 2 on his team

LMAO STEVE SAID YES AND THEN WENT ON TO MAKE THE WARRIORS

I love shaq always says "Ernie" and talks to him cuz he's annoyed with everyone else 😂

Steve Kerr sitting there plotting to get KD

I agree with Reggie’s “Small market impact” theory as well as Steve’s point on the attention super teams brought to the League. It’s great for the league, buts it’s bad for the other teams and their fan bases that are starving for a championship for their team. The knicks haven’t won a ring since the 70’s , if they don’t form something like a super team organically or even by players “teaming up” , the fan base might not see a ring in their life time, and that’s pretty sad to think about. One-star championship teams only come around once in a while.

I like how Steve Kerr always plays the voice of reason when needed lol

Kenny was a role player. Superstar's back in that day like every one on OpenCourt besides Kenny gets it! Mentality is different! Kenny kick rocks

Kenny was never the main man at his team that's why he is talking shit. Hakeem gave him 2 rings

Steve Kerr feeling uncomfortable cause he damn well knew he’d love a super team 😂

Shaq said it best. Honestly, to this day, i still hate the collusion that took place in Miami, mainly between Lebron and Wade. Bosh could've gone to either Cleveland or Miami for all I care. But at the time, Lebron and Wade were perennial MVP candidates and brought out the best in each other whenever they faced off. So them teaming up was like if Bird and Magic would've teamed up in the 80's. While technically, there was nothing wrong with it, morally, it was slap in the face to anybody who knew what competition meant.

KENNY .... TALKS TO DAMN MUCH ANDTHE LOUD HE GETS THE MORE HE THINKS HE'S RIGHT ..... TYPICAL NEW YORKER... THE ONLY THING THAT WAS MISSING FROM THIS CONVERSATION WAS SOMEBODY TELLING KENNY SHUT THE FUCK UP

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS PRIDE IS NOT AN ISSUE ANYMORE. THE WHOLE SUPER TEAM IDEA IS MORALLY WRONG, LIKE AN UNWRITTEN RULE IN THE BASKETBALL WORLD. LOGICALLY IT IS THE MOST SENSIBLE THING TO DO BUT IF YOU ARE AREAL COMPETITOR, WHICH IS WHAT IS SHOULD BE ABOUT, YOU ARE TRYING TO WIN AGAINST THE BEST OF THE BEST NOT JOINING THE BEST OF THE BEST. THE WHOLE PLAYERS TAKING THEIR CAREERS INTO THEIR OWN HANDS, THAT IS CRAZY BECAUSE IF THAT WA THE CASE THEN THEY DO NOT NEED OWNERS, GMS, SCOUTS, OR EVEN OWNERS. PLAYERS TAKING THEIR CAREERS IN THEIR OWN HANDS IS PRACTICING, WORKING OUT, STUDYING GAME TAPE, LOOKIGN AT THE TEAM YOU HAVE AND HELPING THE THEIR GUYS WITH THEIR WEAKNESSES AND USING THEIR STRENGTHS. THAT IS TAKING YOUR CAREER IN YOUR HANDS. THIS WHOLE SUPER TEAM THING, AND I MEAN IT IN THE WAY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT, IS BASICALLY CHEATING

Only the great players like Shaq, Barkley, Miller, Webber has the right to comment on this topic. I love Miller's words:"I wanted to beat Michael Jordan!" Nothing but respect to him

Who knew this would be relevant three and a half years later

Shaq made a good point. I cant stand super teams that are forced in this era of basketball today. Kenny is blowing smoke out of his ass. Kerr and c web also made a points too. I like what Webber said about Tim Duncan.

Sacramento loves Cwebb. He will forever have my respect as a King. He shot his shot and got us closer than anyone since.

Both Shaq and Kerr were right Shaq put it the best way, listen to what he said in the whole video

Man I could listen to old school players from the 80’s 90’s from any league talk about the way things used to be

Kenny is correct. Magic had Kareem, Bob McAdoo, Jamal Wilkes, James Worthy, etc and even nice starters like Byron Scott, AC Green, Norm Nixon, Michael Thompson, etc.

Steve kerr sitting there thinking ohh u guys just wait..😂😂

Kerr is absolutely right about 10 guys who can make a difference. For example, when Igoudala went to Denver, their defense improved greats and did well in the playoffs. He leaves and they are one of the worst teams in the league. He went to Golden State and they go all out to the second round the first year, second year, he won finals mvp. Proof of that.

Put some respek on the Spurs titles - FIVE RINGS, small market

if super teams were so good then why did the nba veto chris paul to the lakers?

Steve Kerr: Yes, that puts small market teams at a huge disadvantage. Also Steve Kerr: I didn't say anything about small market teams.

Kenny doesn't want to hear the question. He keeps making arguments as to why it's OK for players to do what they do. Steve Kerr had the same answer as Kenny but at least, he truly stuck to the question.

Kenny is making himself look pretty bad in this, i know hes not a leader of the team, hes a role player, but lets take that aside. hes making himself look stupid cuz he keep raising his voice n try to over talk others when others have a point

People want players to be loyal to a team, but owners are hardly ever loyal to the players.

I hate how Steve Kerr and the Warriors get labeled as a super team. You guys do realize besides when they got Durant they literally drafted Curry, Klay, Draymond, Harrison Barnes and turned the franchise around.

Reggie Miller is 100% right. Though the NBA is more like the NFL allowing smaller market teams to compete, since they have salary cap vs. MLB - which is a total unfair $ Bucks fest.

I liked what Coach Kerr had to said. I'm pretty sure now he might say there are 12* players who make a difference in this league the new two are probably Steph Curry and Klay Thompson lol.

4:17 Steve Kerr drinking that Tea because he knows how Super Teams are gonna help his future

Steve Kerr: _Are the super teams good for the NBA?_ Steve Kerr: _I say absolutely_

Kenny the only scrub on the panel tryin to shout over the actual stars

Kenny was right nobody wanted to play in Cleveland n they saying he could’ve got ppl but Bron said he tried but nobody came n now in LA they coming

we need isaiah thomas in this conversation. his arguments always cover all angles.

Imagine if Steve Kerr said super teams were bad for the NBA!

If your contract ends and you’re a free agent you have the right to go wherever you want especially if you’ve been carrying a bad team for years and there’s no help or vision you need to go for the best chance to win a championship

I'm with Kenny on this. I think it's easier for Shaq to speak that way, but Shaq got traded to the second biggest dynasty in the league, and ust happened to get Kobe. Accidental? Sure, so it fits. Shaq however, very clearly stated he would go to Miami and help Wade "get his." Wade and Shaq hardly make a "super team" but the concept was the same. Nobody is really mad with Bosh, Toronto has a history of losing superstars. As LeBron though, I would have left. He was back to back MVP, yes. Made it to the Finals one year, yes. But then the team receded again. As a player, I want to be one of the best, so I'm watching those before me and I'm thinking "What if we Pippen never comes into his own? What if we never draft Tony Parker or Mark Aguirre?" Does Isaiah still get his? Or does he become Allen Iverson? Does MJ become Tracy McGrady? I don't want to be the best to never do it. A player's primary goal is to WIN. Cleveland and Toronto had time to get somebody, anybody. They didn't. Or if you think they did then they became a less heralded Clippers. Got Chris Paul and still couldn't get there. He chose to cement his legacy and not wait until he was 38, and then could maybe push something out the tank. Instant gratification or not, when I hang up my sneaks, I want to be able to look at my hand and se at least one.

Best open court topic EVER

Kerr and the Jet made the most sense to me.

I love the different perspective of these guys. Made this show great

I’m glad Kenny played devil’s advocate cause it brewed a great conversation. Every one knows it’s a shame when competitors team up but it’s still fun to watch great teams.

Reggie is correct. Super teams is not good for the league.

"There's only about 10 guys in the league who make a difference" Steve Kerr sums up the NBA in one quote

Hats off to Kerr for controlling the situation..

Shaq quit on Orlando when he was at his prime and that wasn't even a bad team.

And look at the nba now Kenny was ultimately right and so was Reggie. The league is full of super teams and that’s all that major media networks like esos and fox sports talk about is Lakers nets Denver Celtics clippers bucks 76rs jazz etc. the league ultimately has benefited from player’s teaming up

Shaq and Chuck have a "what you want me to do boss" mentality.

You know it gonna be good when C-Webb, Chuck and Shaq are on a panel and Kenny start yelling before the 2min mark hahaha

Don't mind Kenny Smith. If you replace him with his team leader Hakeem Olajuwon, he would agree with the panel. Look what he told the USA Today: "That’s the dilemma the league has to balance to make sure each team at least has the opportunity to have a superstar and has the opportunity to be a championship contender. That’s the goal of every team, but now the quality of players, true franchise players, is less than what it was… “There are superstars and then there are franchise players,” Olajuwon said. “There are superstars in their own right, but a franchise player is a player who can carry his team to the next level. There are always very few of those in any era, true franchise players. Once you have that player, you can build your team around him. Today, the ones who are franchise players are teaming up together, which makes it more difficult for the teams without a superstar or a franchise player. “I think in time, when you have guys coming from college who have the potential to be a superstar, they’re going to be drafted by a losing team that can then ultimately be a contender, and that’s what we need to see more of. We need to see college players who are superstars or can be franchise caliber players who can take those teams from being average teams to being a contender."

Kenny is absolutely right with the reasoning that there have always been super teams, its only a problem for these old-timers when the players organise it. These new-age players arent some puppets for franchises that mostly wont bat an eyelid if an injury takes them out of the league, they're crafting their own legacy and destiny.

Steve's like "Super teams? What super teams?"

Steve Kerr sitting there thinking of his future and saying I’ll have more championships than all these guys combined lol

Kenny was so persistent but he ain't the superstar in the team. He won't und the Superstar ego.

Most of us feel the same way about this. Just like Shaq said, if a team comes together naturally/coincidentally/accidentally, then most of us don't have a problem with it, it's only when people like Lebron say, "Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh are in Miami, I want to get me some rings" then it becomes dishonorable. I don't know the backroom details of how Garnett and Allen got together with Paul Pierce in Boston, but if calls were made by them to come together, then that's dishonorable too. It stretches the smaller "markets" and less wealthy teams thin. Part of the reason why I stopped watching baseball was because I got tired of watching the league and the media focus on the Yankees vs Redsox, almost as if they were setting it up.

Everyone on the set has been on a super team except Reggie

Kenny doesnt know the feeling. If he was asked if he would have done it, yes, coz hes got no choice! 🤣🤣🤣

I don’t like what lebron did, but he had every right too… Cleveland did absolutely nothing for him… they drafted nobody. They had terrible rosters. And these guys are crazy saying you can recruit to Cleveland… the only major free agent that signed in Cleveland was lebron in 2014… Bosh wasn’t going to no damn Cleveland…

STEVE KERR is an underrated Genius in their discussion...

Man that escalated REAL quick lol. I like how Steve Kerr, the dude who was on the biggest super team, didn't say a thing lol

Steve Kerr's statement is the best

I agree with Kenny 100%

"they didn't get together and decide to go to OKC together" this didn't age well.... lol

This was my favourite panel of all open court seasons.

Excuse me Kenny which franchise did you carry? Like you were A ROLE PLAYER you don't have no say in this thats why Steve for the most of the time kept his mouth shut he was A ROLE PLAYER....His ego isn't as large as your...smh.

LeBron has three Championships cause of super teams...tell me I'm wrong....

kenny was right. Magic played on a super team with the best center of all time, the second best small forward of the era worthy and mychal thompson. Bird played with the 2nd best power forward of the era in mchale and top 3 centers in 7xall star parrish. But cause bron has a rubbish gm he has to stick it out with mo williams, delonte west etc F outta here

Steve Kerr is like "ha ha you are all gonna see for not letting me talk"

This was the best debate on Open Court.

C-Webb is wrong when he said Lebron could have got help in cleveland. They tried to trade for Bosh and Gasol and both refused to play for cleveland Bosh didn't like Cleveland (the place) and Gasol wanted to go to a big market team. That's why they had to settle for guys like washed-up Shaq and Antwan Jamison.

in the words of Chuck "shut the hell up Kenny"

Steve Kerr actually seems like a really smart guy

Kenny claiming what Charles did in Philly vs Lebron to Miami is just outright the most ignorant thing ever.