Open Crown Hats..What’s The Deal?..(A.K.A. “Is That A Derby?”)

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KEVIN’S HATS & GUITARS

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5 жыл бұрын

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@hinchmeister
@hinchmeister 5 жыл бұрын
This has become MY FAVORITE CHANNEL on all of KZfaq. Great Work, Kevin!
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Awfully nice of u to say, thank you VERY much for that. Thanks for the support, Kev
@lakepostell6912
@lakepostell6912 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin is the "best".
@dionmoore879
@dionmoore879 3 жыл бұрын
I would for sure buy a hat from this guy
@ivanhoe6366
@ivanhoe6366 7 ай бұрын
Top notch information right here. 😎👍🇬🇧
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 7 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@lesliewilliams3386
@lesliewilliams3386 5 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure Kevin appreciate the info !!! Your knowledge of hats is amazing !!!
@jamesdana1273
@jamesdana1273 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. You've answered a lot of my questions.
@jamesdempster1404
@jamesdempster1404 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Kev, love this video. It’s off the back of this one that I felt confident enough to get a Christy’s fur felt fold away, open crown 2 1/2 inch brim. And it looks amazing 🤠. Keep them coming buddy 😋👍
@sunne1954home
@sunne1954home 6 күн бұрын
I love an open crown, large brim curled up at just the brim edge with a chin strap or tie.
@20thcenturyboy85
@20thcenturyboy85 5 жыл бұрын
THANKS!!! BEST Hat info videos on KZfaq!
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
20thCenturyBoy my pleasure, thank you!!, really nice of u to say, thx for watching..kev
@blackacid74
@blackacid74 5 жыл бұрын
Thnxs Kevin for the info. Never knew the hats can be rolled. 😎 lots of love from SINGAPORE.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Awesome, glad u liked it 😎 it is popular now, they've been around a while but they're better quality now! we have a dozen or so Rollable straws and at least 2-3 dozen styles in felt!
@karolinska1601
@karolinska1601 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a "not so fancy" cheap fedora with a centerfold a long time ago. I managed to make it into teardrop shape by watching your videos.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Karolinska nice!! I love hearing that, nice 👍 going!!!!!
@sunne1954home
@sunne1954home 6 күн бұрын
I have a felt fedora which I changed back to an open crown. I love a low open crown, large brim turned up about 1/2 at the brims edge!
@tiagfys
@tiagfys Жыл бұрын
Super helpful thanks for sharing the info :-) . Had a couple felted hats gifted to me and i steamed them into open crown rounds lol. One i pinned up on the side still has creases but im gonna work on it more.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! I love hearing that! Keep it up!!!!
@joeninety4740
@joeninety4740 5 жыл бұрын
V interesting.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@blackdonte24
@blackdonte24 4 жыл бұрын
Been thinking about pulling the trigger on "The Settler" by Stetson on your website. After watching this video, I think I'm ready. Thanks Kev!!
@IkeDon
@IkeDon 4 жыл бұрын
Great video
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much 😎
@robertschafer8244
@robertschafer8244 11 ай бұрын
Great channel, hooked on the expedition. Suggestion… JJ tins for your rolled hats would fly of the shelf and be great for online purchases.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 11 ай бұрын
Good idea, thx!
@teakey
@teakey 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I was just wondering what is the difference from a derby.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
The brim is "rolled" on a Derby, homburg,top hat.. these open crown fedoras have snap brims with a "flange", a pivot point that allows it to snap up and down. Also,a Derby crown is much lower, since it isn't meant to be creased, it's also stiffer in the crown.. different shaped crown, subtle differences..😁
@logandavis4719
@logandavis4719 3 жыл бұрын
Holy cow the explorer looks amazing! I'm starting to come into my style with hats and that down turn brim in front looks awesome its just not in my size.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
The hat was discontinued, the expedition is is the wider brim version,they're super light but not a very snappy, straight brim,they're very soft..super thin.
@logandavis4719
@logandavis4719 3 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 do you have a video of the expedition with the front snapped down. That would be interesting. I could go the one size up route for the explorer.
@Burps___
@Burps___ 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, Kevin. Sweet instruction here, thanks. You’ve told us to always store our hats upside down rather than just tossing them on the table rightside up on the brim. But, with open crown, how do we store them? On a hook? Thanks.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Cool One same rules apply, brovah ...snap the brim up, store it upside down, or hung up, or in a hat box, (where it sits upside down anyway) but yeah, nothing changes, the rule is, keep the brim snapped up,and off the surface of the table, no weight on it. That leaves, 1. Hung up. 2. Upside down, or 3. In the box ,applied to all hats, brims that are totally flat,like a bolero or boater, those are good flat on the brim ,
@timothywickberg4487
@timothywickberg4487 5 жыл бұрын
I like the tough guy Kevin in these videos, you talking to me, well there is no one else here so you must be talking to me. Keep up the humor Kevin.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wickberg thanx,Tim, yeah, I’m about the definition of the 90 lb weakling!.. the one getting sand kicked in his face by the muscleman on the beach?..remember that ad in the back of the comic books? Then he kicks the bully’s ass at the end as his girl looks on,impressed..I loved that one, I always wanted to order those x ray vision glasses,
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
I was leaning towards another Akubra hat, but saw the Explorer in this video. Just got off the phone with the shop and ordered it in charcoal grey with a center crease. 👍❤️🎩
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
Might be one of the lightest weight hats ever produced, you can stack two of those atop one another and still think it weighs next to nothing..nice😺
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 thanks, I've been looking for a light weight fur felt everyday hat with a snap brim. The fact that it's packable is a major plus. 👍
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
I had Benji do a center crease with a pinch. Within 24 hours, it's migrated to a tear drop shape. 😄. It's going to be a good casual hat. When I stop by the store in a few weeks, I may have you steam it into a more permanent tear drop shape. 👍
@guylewis7418
@guylewis7418 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I bought an Akubra Campdraft that came open crowned. It surprised me because it was easy to crease. That Stetsonian is a good looking hat!
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're just good at it, some folks are really good at it,and nail it imediately, others struggle with it and can't really get it..
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
I'm considering an Akubra Adventurer and I'm worried that the crown might be too tall even after lowering it with shaping.
@guylewis7418
@guylewis7418 4 жыл бұрын
dave, are you buying it from David Morgan? If so they will crease it for you. For a price, anyway. Good luck!
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
@@guylewis7418 no, I'm considering one available at a local store. If I can't get it right myself, I'll taking it to Kevin at JJ Hats. 😃
@guylewis7418
@guylewis7418 4 жыл бұрын
dave, if you can take it to Kevin, that would be perfect! Wish he was closer!
@1998goji
@1998goji 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kevin! I'm a huge fan of the Stetsonian! I have one in Tawny and Caribou! I love those 1940s open crown hats like the Borsalino Film and the Premier Stratoliner! But what do you think of the Borsalino Bogart?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Nathaniel Long that’s one of their post-bankruptcy hats. We are not carrying Borsalino now, there is no USA distribution, the entity called Borsalino USA used to have their showroom in the same building as us,and we worked very closely together for decades, since the bankruptcy, I believe they started bringing in some of their new hats to their own shop in Brooklyn,NY. I’ve seen one or two of the newer hats,and the ones I saw were definitely not the same felt as what I’ve been wearing for the last twenty years.. I believe that when the time is right,and they get back in the game, we will carry them again, but as for now, I’m not sure they have the same revenue to buy the same felt as before..maybe things are getting better, I’m not sure. But.. If a customer invests $400 in a soft, dress hat like that, there’s no way we will sell them unless we are sure of the quality. high end hats like this need to perform perfectly,or else they get sent back after the first rain storm. I wear 99% Borsalino myself, but nothing purchased within the last 4 years.. Dress hat companies grow stronger, weaker every few years certain companies dominate because they can get the product onto our shelves when we order them. other brands take custom orders,and don’t deliver when the season rolls around. If we take a chance on a brand that doesn’t come through, we lose for the entire year,and can enter financially dangerous waters.. If that happens 2-3 years in a row, we are history.. I’ve seen brands like Biltmore, Selentino,Borsalino and Stetson dominate 85% of our inventory,depending on what era.. it’s the nature of the business, Borsalino opened in 1857, some guy embezzles and then they close shop for 3 years, it just goes to show you how this business is..You see one brand is on top, or on bottom this year, but it’ll be totally different in 2-3 years.. I’d stay away right now, I feel like it’s not a “high point” for the company.. We sold Borsalino’s “The Beaver” model for $550 four years ago, and a viewer told me he paid $1k for it now?.. that’s insane,if it’s true. I’d stay away..for now, if u ask me, it’s a drag..but I still have my old ones,I guess.
@1998goji
@1998goji 5 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 Thanks Kev, yeah, I have a pre-bankruptcy hat called the COMO and it's great, the felt almost acts like a vintage hat would! But thanks for the info, bro! You're like the eyes and ears of the industry!
@donhatter159
@donhatter159 2 жыл бұрын
What Type Of Hat That Can Shapes What Ever You Want To Shaped?
@barrandskies4725
@barrandskies4725 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion they’re never too high. 😂 I have a bolero style brim with an 8” crown
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhh baby! The higher the better for me too, I love it
@barrandskies4725
@barrandskies4725 3 жыл бұрын
KEVIN from JJ HAT CENTER 🎸HATS & GUITARS ! Smart man.
@timothywickberg4487
@timothywickberg4487 5 жыл бұрын
I wanted to run something by you about storing hats when they are not being worn. What is your opinion of storing a felt hat with a hat stretcher on the inside set to the same size as your head, would that prevent some shrinkage? And is you were Able to hang it from the hat stretcher would that essentially keep your hat from wearing prematurely?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Timothy Wickberg no, like a shoe tree kinda? No, it won’t help. As soon as u remove the stretcher, it’ll shrink back. Without cranking the hell out of it, and with steam, it won’t do anything, not a single thing. , If anything, the heavy weight if the wooden stretcher will probably distort the brim on softer hats. I hear this all the time, don’t bother..just a waste of time.. If you have a tight hat, there are way more effective things to do.. Remove the reed,the little wire from the tip of the leather sweatband, that will allow the hat to stretch while u wear it. that wire is what makes the hat tight,uncomfortable and gives u a Lot of the pressure.. try pulling it over your knee, stretch it,a or ...use the stretcher as directed... steam hat w the stretcher inside,then crank it open a lot, allowing it to dry w the stretcher inside... but the shoe tree method is not going to do much at all. Thx, 😉
@nickandmikec
@nickandmikec 4 жыл бұрын
Looking for a Fedora with a 1 5/8 inch brim and an open crown of 4.5 to 4.7 inches and shaped into a center dent. Dark or medium gray in color. Fur felt, brim should be raw edge cut. No more than a one inch hat band, same color as hat. Can you help or suggest anything? The brim can be 1 3/4 inches if somewhat rolled.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
Lot of open crown stuff but now felt season is pretty much over, not much in grey. all straws coming in now. The STETSON PREMIER STRATOLINER is the only thing open crown,grey with a large brim That's in stock NOW. . Most felts arrive September thru January and by mid June stock on specific specialty items like open crowns. They're like maybe 10-15% of our felt stock, by June... pickings get slimmer. We have things open crown w that brim, but not much Grey this summer, shipments have been very slow this year too..and we have 25-25% off the entire shop,so felts are moving out quickly.. The Biltmore Fulton comes in brown or black. There's many other choices in center crease without open crowns, like the Stetson Temple, & other open crowns that aren't grey.
@brodeyleembruggen9910
@brodeyleembruggen9910 2 жыл бұрын
Is there such thing as a hybrid teardrop diamond crown?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 2 жыл бұрын
I guess..not a conmon request, but it could be done
@ottoman1755
@ottoman1755 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin: are you personally creasing hats for customers?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but not until i return from my leave of absence, I'll return this winter, but right now I am home for a while, I'll be back to work by Jan or Feb
@fantasyshowbar
@fantasyshowbar 5 жыл бұрын
Very cool and informative thanks for sharing this! Can you tell me what's the brown unlined open-crown hat you show about 6 or 7 minutes in? With the thin brown ribbon. Couldn't find it on your site but maybe out of season? Thanks for any info and keep making these you've got some unique knowledge, amigo!
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
"The Explorer" it's on the site. jjhatcenter.com it is usually around $250 but I believe it's half price now, on sale,it rolls up, fur felt,from Spain.. also comes in wider brim version called "the Expedition"
@andrewlienkailin
@andrewlienkailin 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin, What is the name of the model....when you picked it up at 30-34 seconds into the clip?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
Fabricio
@caleblandin7601
@caleblandin7601 Жыл бұрын
Where online can you find the stetsonian?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 Жыл бұрын
You cannot, it’s discontinued long ago
@xanpark4573
@xanpark4573 9 ай бұрын
Is he selling used rolexes too?
@callumprinster282
@callumprinster282 5 жыл бұрын
Hey there, Are you able to do Rancher style shaping (i.e. Open Road style) in these type of open crown hats?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Callum Prinster sure, but they look proper with a higher open Crown,like the premier Stratoliner is the LBJ hat, it has a high crown and looks exactly like an I shaped open road, the high ones like Stetsonian will take a goos cattleman crease too because it’s high,as a matter of fact, the open road is available open Crown, we just don’t order it.The premier stratoliner is basically the same thing with softer dress felt, slightly higher crown, slightly shorter brim.. the thing is, if u pick a lower Crowned hat to start with, the little creases will be too low,and bump into the top of your head. It won’t be deep enough. But the short answer is yes.
@callumprinster282
@callumprinster282 5 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 Thank you so much for the quick and insightful reply! Very helpful!
@RetiredBadge
@RetiredBadge 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Kevin maybe you can help me. I haven’t got help from Stetson in Garland, Texas. Do you know how I can get a lining in my Open Road Silver Belly. I bought it new and it was my first one. I bought it at the Texas State Fair. It has no lining. I didn’t know about the lining and it has become an issue for me. Thanks.
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 2 жыл бұрын
Any decent hat shop has linings, we sell them for like $10 or something..u just need the size of the hat.. we can’t get u a Stetson lining though, those are never for sale because the manufacturer is afraid of folks selling other hats as Stetsons..like bootleg stuff..we have JJ linings though, u can place it in easily.
@RetiredBadge
@RetiredBadge 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. In fact Benji contacted me today. Y’all are great.
@joemata7361
@joemata7361 4 жыл бұрын
I want the fabricio.. Which one do I get to make my own shapes at home.. Open or center crese
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
if u have a Center crease pinch front, u can then turn that into anything, teardrop or Porkpie etc.. that’s a low crown, not a very high,baggy crown, so u can shape it, but I have a feeling it’ll look best Center crease,pinch front... amazing quality those Signes hats, real silk lining, amazing felt, leather,.finish, styling..
@joemata7361
@joemata7361 4 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 so when I order on line do I then order the open crown or center crown?
@RetiredBadge
@RetiredBadge 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin do you have the Open Road in a great straw? How would I go about buying and having it shipped? Thanks
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 2 жыл бұрын
Those are hats we sell, but Stetson never shipped any straws this summer, we only have a size small leftover. Next will be felt season,felt open roads will arrive, the straws won’t be available until April or may of next year
@RetiredBadge
@RetiredBadge 2 жыл бұрын
Okay thank you so much. Looking forward to the straw. I have three delta now.
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
How do you know if the open crown height is too tall to begin with? Is there a chance that I won't be able to make it low enough after shaping?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 4 жыл бұрын
Once shaped (correctly) it can be made as low as u want..it's limitless.. that's kind of the idea if open crown..u can set the height wherever u want..just ask," I want a super low center crease" or "super low teardrop" or ask me to shape it up for u. The issue is not if it'll be low enough shaped, but usually the issue is the crown looks too high when worn open-crown style, my any folks wanna try the round top,and find it's too high for them. ..but shaped? I can make it as low as u want.
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 Hi, thanks, I guess my concern is that the hats starts at 5 1/4 open crown height. If I bring it down to a tear drop height at the front of 4 1/2"; will there be a ton of excess material in the folds?
@dkstott29
@dkstott29 4 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 after watching this video several times, I'm interested in that explorer!! Do they run true to size? I'm in between a 58 & 59 size. Is it a snap brim??
@loubang100
@loubang100 5 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy! Is the blue open crown named Fabrico? Please advise
@loubang100
@loubang100 5 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 thanks
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 5 жыл бұрын
Wait.u meant the hat at the end of this video. U are right. Fabrizio. I thought u were referring to the royal blue open crown I wore in recent videos..yes. u are right.
@oldeays5085
@oldeays5085 11 ай бұрын
I want the hat you didn't smash and roll up a hundred times! 😂
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 11 ай бұрын
That costs extra
@galwaytribesman9289
@galwaytribesman9289 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of hat can I buy like this that I can shape. Hats that I have are solid and stiff they cant be shaped without steam. Is there a particular name for that kind of hat or felt?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
Just very high quality, soft felt. In order for felt to be that soft,and still keep its shape, it needs to be super quality. The vintage hats were like that, and the better grade Borsalino felts are known for that, if u watch ,y latest video u can see me shape it into various shapes and even roll it up. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o76jpKmrztPcpmg.html
@galwaytribesman9289
@galwaytribesman9289 3 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 Thanks bro
@jonnyhalo1041
@jonnyhalo1041 2 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my first bowler hat today Vintage Bailey Any good in your opinion?
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure it’s great, that’s a classic American brand,a lot of celebrities endorsed them, bing crosby, guys like that.. anything vintage is usually great, I’m sure it’s killer, enjoy !
@jonnyhalo1041
@jonnyhalo1041 2 жыл бұрын
@@quadrogong1111 Hey thanks for the reply. I like the way you rock those big brim hats! Style without trying like a lot of people
@MrCoursair77
@MrCoursair77 3 жыл бұрын
Hey kev what is your Facebook profile...
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
Kevin Todd gerber
@quadrogong1111
@quadrogong1111 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, what’s up,Kev?🤠
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